i've been discusing this with Eh/NP already and it seems the Network settings are not stored in the (Virtual) eeprom. There's a whole paragraph in the readme on how to adjust network settings for xblive use.

Removing the shadow eeprom won't do any good anyway since the then real eeprom is write protected and returns to default on each power cycle.

O.o the virtual eeprom doesn't store network settings? Hmz thats new to me. Seems weird though.

Replacing NKpatcher or running a BIOS loader should remove any eeprom "protection" (shadowing or write protecting) as i suggested, but isn't needed (from what i understand).

Why did you take the readme offline BTW, im kinda curious but dont have any FTP apps right now.

It seemed weird to me too. you can view the readme on xbins.org

Great, thx, now i get the ID.

Form what i understand nkpatcher boots E:\dashboard\default.xbe right?

(i'm making an app install disk and i figured i should use a more stadard path then apps\avalaunch\avalaun.xbe since thats kinda bias towards evox/unleashx/xbmc users)

You wont mind me making some compatibility right? (BTW nice work on including "VGA" support, smart move!)

where can i find the source code for the fonts included in this ndure installer package and can anyone provide the crc32 or the md5 of the xonlinedash.xbe from the 4920 dash? tia.

(OT) friedgold's MS dashboard network settings storage thread:

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=424996

Nkpatcher boots to a multilaunch xbe which then boots first to E:\dashboard\default.xbe


@ NP: That seems to confirm yours (and eventually mine) findings. However it may be nice to add that every boot from a configured dashboard will overwrite any previous network setting. (at least with unleashx since that's the only one I tested.)

source code for fonts on xguides
xonlinedash.xbe md5 8da4d816604e9b9d5aa69d1fd395a48e

Ya, I love your installer...works great...much better than SID.

Anyways, I was just wondering if this was a "required" update...but based on your response, I am guessing it is not.

Since I do not use LIVE...I think the old one should be fine.

Thanks.

I've used your XBE installer, I was wondering if I can just uninstall that, and install this new one ? Thanks,

What xbe installer? If you mean UXE installer you could do that although you would have to make sure you have the latest dash.

Sorry Yes, I meant UXE installer. I've just been having some problems with that one. And thought I'd give this one a try. Thanks for your reply. I'm really looking forward to this one.

If the kids' didn't mess up every disc I wouldn't need to try theses thing. lol. Thanks, Krayzie. "I just coulnd't get certain games to boot with the other exploit"

krayzie!
Quick question : The bak folder on C drive ... are the files in this folder needed for anything or are they just FILLER to fill up C drive?

Couldn't see anything about it in Readme file.

I am currently using another softmod. I have a back up of my c and e folders, but unfortunately they contain modded files. My question is what is the best way to return my xbox to stock, as i want to install ndure for Live use.

you mean the Dashdata backup folder? Thats a backup in case the msdash setup gets changed after a dashupdate.



just get slayers 2.6 and use those files to restore to stock

So there's no way to change network settings in the unmodded MS Dash without disabling/uninstalling the mod? Ideally i'd like to be able to re-enable the mod without needing an exploitable game to do so.
Cheers.

Minotaur, both are possible with Ndure (per friedgold's network settings thread and the EEE discussion in kingroach's installer thread).

if you set the network to your liking in the regular replacement dashboard (unleashx/evox) and in all dashes you might come across (installer menu) those settings will be stored and therefore also active in the unmodded dash (thus no need to set it in there)

ok ,i have krayzies uxe installed on xbox ,now want to try ndure but im having a brain fart .i need to keep it modded to transfer gamesaves ,but they have the same name as the uxe ones .how do i transfer new saves to memory card so i can still have old ones to remove softmod,hope this makes sense to someone thanks

uninstall current mod, gain ftp access thru game save, and replace current one, then load new one, and install mod.

I'm not sure which network settings are included with the above statement. I have 2 softmods done Krayzie fashion with completely hidden C. I had asked a long time ago if there was a problem using the same virtual eeprom on multiple boxes and at the time I couldn't find any reason not to. Well, I eventually found out why this wasn't a good idea. I was having a problem connecting 2 boxes together that had the same virtual eeprom. If I connected them through KAI from different houses it was ok, but in the same network in the same house they would see each other but not allow to join the game. I could ftp into each one while they were both on no problem. After looking around I noticed that the mac addresses were the same and this was causing the problem. Putting on the proper eeprom.bin changed the mac addresses and solved the connection issues. This can be seen in MS dash-settings-network settings in the bottom right corner. Does this not count as a network setting in regards to the previous posts? Or does that only apply to the latest softmod style?

installed with splintercell
picked unleash x
but my ip is 0.0.0.0
cant change it... and cant ftp

anyway to fix it?

solved my own problem
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?sho...#092;.0\.0
limited my dhcp server connections on my router

Cool... so the only thing that can't be done while running dual-retail is actually adding an XBL account to the box?

On another note, I didn't see any option to disable dual-boot in the softmod menu. How would I go about doing this?
Thanks.

PS I cold-booted with a an original Spy vs. Spy game in the drive and attempted to connect to XBL - the game proceeded to try to update my dashboard and failed at about 40%, but in doing so made the box error 21 when booting it unmodded - restoring the MS dash from the softmod menu fixed it however. Any ideas why this happened?

I usually always recommended people to use their OWN eeprom since it contains scecific information of that xbox like MAC adresses. If you choose to do such a thing it's not strange such things could happen.

Yep for a live acount set up the ndure must be inactive

There is a multiboot uninstall option between the other multiboot options

And yeah the msdash gets hosed in dashupdates while coldbooting. this is yet an unfixable bug from the ndure exploit. so you see that option to restore is to fix it when that happens.

krayzie, it's not "yet an unfixable bug from the ndure exploit" (it's an Ndure 'retail' setup consequence); a 'fonts' setup isn't affected by it and provides no less coldboot support...

Yeah yeah I still consider it a bug (i know it's not an error in code). it would be nicer if it wasn't affected at all.

so lemme get this straight, i have to unistall my Krayzie UXE softmod and then install the Ndure softmod. Will uninstalling my uxe softmod delete all of my apps games and so on.... ? thnx!

no

krayzie, i press the eject button and it boots unmodded to xbox live dash but it does not respond! Then if i hit b it will go to a blackscreen. I just noticed it wont let me go into network settings then a blackscreen. EDIT, now after turning off the softmod it still wont respond!?!

do you have a dhcp or a router connection? did yoiu ever bother to read the readme?

i fixed it, the ip and dns settings were screwy.

remember you need to set it in the DASHBOARD and INSTALLER MENU otherwise they would continually change. and next time read before you ask.

For sure that would be nicer but, thankfully, it's already an improvement on the corresponding ("flawed"?) behaviour of UDE/UDE2/UXE setups.

Plus, for those that don't require the open-tray, MS dash (Ndure 'retail') setup, an Ndure 'fonts' setup would "fix it"...

Krayzie I give you alot of props for making these saves, I have installed it. And it works well, I had a previous soft mod installation so i don't know if the fonts directory in C drive is accurate becuase inside that folder is xbox.xtf and xbox book.xtf and another fonts folder. In that folder it has another folder called skins and in that is Project Mayem Skin. I was wondering if that was apart of your package or not so i can delete it if not. I had itools installed before Ndure but i used the backup option in Itools to get back to my stock joe xbox.

Thanks alot
Flame Away

in the fonts folder there should only be two xtf files. But since the other files won't interfere I would just leave them. Deleting them might cause problems since it frees up space.
If you insist on deleting them you would have to uninstall and reinstall the softmod again.

In case anyone's wondering, I'm not trying to "stir it up again" (tee-hee) so I will get more to the point!

Going forward, I see the Ndure 'fonts' setup as an opportunity to further enhance the (already awesome!) Ndure installers.

Just renaming the xboxdashdata.185ead00 directory (suitably) differentiates the Ndure 'retail' and 'fonts' setups (along with the bootstrap file/s, of course)...

just wondering dunno if this has been answered but what are the chances of getting a clock loop while havin this installed??

no chance of a clock loop. (period)

sweet see im new to all this and was just wanting to know because i am about to softmod my only xbox i have available to me and sumtimes i unplugg it for a while and was wanting to know would that have anyeffect on it ? hence me asking about the clock looping situation

Hey Krayzie, How do i restore the modded menu because i screwed up the gamesave? Please, i am really screwed right now!

cool, can splinter cell classic run this?

This is NOT an UXE installer thread, this thread is about Ndure.



AFAIK all SC games are exploitable.

I uninstalled 2.7 and I get the rename error upon attempt at NDure install. The system info in m$dash shows 5960, but when I ftp in I see C:\xboxdashdata.185a6100. I also see fonts.du and xboxdashdat.du folders (Dutch I assume) Can anyone tell me whats up with this?

nickbuhl, the C:\xboxdashdata.185a6100 means it's got the first (brief) release of 5960 and the .du directories mean a dashboard update ran but failed to complete...

Wow, thanks for the quick insight, a dash update fixed it right up! Now I'll just have to un- and re-install this NDure once I get some of those free trial cards.

There's one thing I'm confused about:

After installing this softmod when I turn my xbox on with the eject button it's supposedly in retail state right? So how come it loads unleash X (and the led still stays green)?