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manturafs
Been an avid reader of this topic a while back and have been using both version 1 and 1.1 on two different xboxes for a year or so. just a question though, i was wondering what files point to E:\dashboard\default.xbe and E:\dashboard\alt\default.xbe? Also what program was used to create those shortcuts?

I'm trying to work out some video issues on my HD TV set and though it probably isn't the problem, wanted to test some things anyway.
krayzie
The file is nkpatcher and is on C:\nkpatcher\ (on the actual C)
manturafs
that's what i figured. i'm assuming default.xbe is for E:\dashboard\default.xbe and alt.xbe is for E:\dashboard\default.xbe.

Were these made with the XBE Shortcut Maker or did you create some xbe's yourself?
krayzie
they were compiled from nkpatcher's source.
manturafs
thanks, but what i'm trying to do isn't working.

i don't know if you remember, but i had posted a very long time ago that I saw wavy lines or squiggly lines any time my dashboard was loading through your mod when using an HD tv. everything is fine on a regular tv, just not HD. i believe this is due to nkpatcher being in 480i mode or whatever and switching to 720p etc. i replaced alt.xbe in nkpatcher which loads an alternative dash. the xbe works fine normally, but i'm trying to use xbe shortcut maker because i thought it might solve the problem. obviously it won't work unless you at least habibi sign the xbe, which i did with xbedump. altdash still won't load and gives me 21 error if it's unsigned and just a black screen if it is. i have it directing to e:\dashboard\altdash\default.xbe. i know this isn't due to your installer, but thought you might know what i could possibly do to help refine this type of setup. is there a way nkpatcher doesn't have the squiggly lines (load at 720p)? or is there a way to replace the xbe file with say another xbe through a special process?
krayzie
you could try the force progressive option to make the output 480p instead of 480i
manturafs
hmm, it still has the same problem. i'm not sure why the problem only occurs when an hd pack is connected. there seems to be a step inbetween the flubber and dashboard that is not in hd mode, even with the forced progressive scan. i made sure that in the unmodded state as well that the ms video settings were set to widescreen with all the hd resoltuions enabled (which are supported by the tv). i know with a modchip this problem doesn't occur, but with this softmod it does. any guesses what the step in the middle is?
krayzie
Gous your true eeprom is not set to hd. go to dualmsdash mode and in there set your dash to 720p
manturafs
wouldn't the dualmsdash represent the settings i have when the softmod is switched off? i checked anyway and my video mode is still set to widescreen with yes's for 480p, 720p. and 1080i.
krayzie
yes the settings are the same in the dual msdash and switched off mod. you could try replacing nkpacther with a bios loader pointed to your dash to see if the problem lies in nkpatcher. You have to realize though that the exploit itselfs creates a system crash itself that could cause the screen to be instable for a fraction of a second. Maybe it's inevitable. Maybe a kernel specific font could help I dunno.
manturafs
yeah, kernal specific fonts i think i tried before and it didn't work. i don't know why i stopped trying to fix this a year ago, but i guess now is a good time. as for a bios loader, i thought about that as well. i just wasn't sure what to use since they are all outdated. do you have any recommendations? PBL? and could i do a bios loader with you installer still installed but with the mod switched off?
manturafs
oh wait, i think I see what you are saying. keep the ndure install, but, for testing purposes, replace alt.xbe with PBL instead of the nkpatcher. then where would i put the dashboard file or shortcut to the dashboard? is that on the real C or virtual C? i have the PBL metoo-m8plus-v1.4.1 package and from the looks of evtools (and if i remember xbtools), you can only point it to load a file off of c:, not e:\dashboard\default.xbe like your installer.

also, i can't seem to test PBL. I took the package from the usual places and created a PBL directory in APPS. Placed the boot.cgf, bios file, and default.xbe (says it is signed from the package) in the directory. when i go to run it though all i get is a black screen. my kernal is compatible as well. i have a v1.0 xbox with kernal version 4034 (and obviously the dash version required for your install). would the nkpatcher perhaps not allow it to run while in mod mode? replacing alt.xbe with the package files doesn't seem to load either. just a black screen.

P.S. just wanted to also thank you again for a great job you've done on this installer and all the help. like i mentioned before, i've been using this on two xbox's wtih no problems besides this flicker when connected with an HD pack. hopefully we can figure this out, but i love what you've done. thanks!
krayzie
you should be able to point the bios wherever you want using the evtool
manturafs
yeah, i finally noticed that. stupid me. tongue.gif is that why i was getting a black screen since i was trying to point to c? i'll try more testing tonite when i have my xbox, but i couldn't figure out why it wouldn't load the bios. from the threads i read and actually a comment you left, i should be able to test run this from the apps folder right?

and what did you think of my other test method of replacing alt.xbe?
manturafs
hey krayzie, thanks for trying, but it didn't work. i finally got all the configs right and it loaded with pbl, but the same problem still exists. i wish i could show you. thanks for all the help.
thanosx
I was wondering if removing the ndure 1.1 mod and reinstalling it would hurt anything ? cause i modded my cousins xbox and he said sometimes when he goes to load a game up a screen comes up with some chinese lettering but it doesnt do it all the time he said.
thanosx
ok i just have been playing on the xbox for awhile and it did it to me. makes a loud clicking noise and a screen comes up saying contact customer support in like 5 or 6 diff languages ?
clueo8
I have installed the latest Krayzie Ndure 1.1.1 I believe onto 2 xboxes... When I try to transfer stuff from one to another via ftp through a router, or even xbox to xbox via x-over cable, it does not work. One of the xboxes ftp works and the other just loses the ftp connection. They are different IPs, but I think that since they are both using the same virtual eeprom from the ndure installer, that they both have the same MAC address on the NIC and they are interfearing with each other... is there a way disable one of the virtual eeproms so that I could link the two boxes together to transfer files? or a way to change the virtual one to a real eeprom that will work... I'm almost positive that since they are both using the same softmod with the same virtual eeprom that this is the issue...

Thanks in advance!
A Murder of Crows
QUOTE(thanosx @ Jul 27 2006, 01:30 AM) *

ok i just have been playing on the xbox for awhile and it did it to me. makes a loud clicking noise and a screen comes up saying contact customer support in like 5 or 6 diff languages ?



copy the eeprom off that system ASAP. your hard drive is failing, and you'd much rather install a new hard drive via XBOXHDM than via a mod chip.

QUOTE(clueo8 @ Jul 27 2006, 05:59 PM) *

I have installed the latest Krayzie Ndure 1.1.1 I believe onto 2 xboxes... When I try to transfer stuff from one to another via ftp through a router, or even xbox to xbox via x-over cable, it does not work. One of the xboxes ftp works and the other just loses the ftp connection. They are different IPs, but I think that since they are both using the same virtual eeprom from the ndure installer, that they both have the same MAC address on the NIC and they are interfearing with each other... is there a way disable one of the virtual eeproms so that I could link the two boxes together to transfer files? or a way to change the virtual one to a real eeprom that will work... I'm almost positive that since they are both using the same softmod with the same virtual eeprom that this is the issue...

Thanks in advance!



Using Krayzies (Advanced) Extras, choose Update Virtual Eeprom. when complete, the problem shouldnt happen any more
thanosx
Is that all i need is a copy of the eeprom , would i need to copy the c and e folder to ?
SnakeEyes984
QUOTE(A Murder of Crows @ Jun 14 2006, 05:48 AM) *

With Krayzie's NDure 1.1.1, you can get on Live by coldboot. no need turn the mod off.

if you turn the mod off (for access of the Friend's tab, etc), you can get back on by using your chosen exploit method and running it again.

I suggest that you use Krayzie's Advance Extras to set up a dual boot system so that an eject will provide you access to the Live Console, power button starts as normal.

Ok, I've been reading pages and pages for the past 2-3 hours now. I've successfully upgraded my Xbox to Krayzies 1.1.1. I've been trying to read about this dual boot (since I have been a SID fan for a while but recently gave Krayzies a shot). With SID, I can just hit eject, put the game in and get on Live with their Dual boot system.

What I wanted to know about the dual boot in the Extras folder...Can I hit eject, wait for the Live console screen to come up and then put the game in and be able to play on live? Or do I have to cold boot everytime?

Thanks
A Murder of Crows
QUOTE(thanosx @ Jul 28 2006, 08:27 AM) *

Is that all i need is a copy of the eeprom , would i need to copy the c and e folder to ?



if you can get them, sure. i figure that with the clicking hard drive problem, you PROBABLY would be better off installing a stock C 5960 to a new hard drive, lock it to the eeprom, and remod from scratch, than you would be if you tried to copy the files off a failing drive, which MIGHT corrupt some of those files. Keep in mind that you will end up copying only the Shadow C drive unless you enter the box into Professional Mode first.
SnakeEyes984
Ok, I'm in the extras menu now. I've been looking everywhere for information on what does what. The readme.txt doesn't tell me very much, it just skips over the dual/triple boots.

Like I stated above, I'm trying to get on Live with the softmod remaining installed. With the dual boot with ms dash be able to do that and would I still be able to generate gamertags? Or would I have to go with the dual boot with Livedash?

I've been searchingfor a while now...and it would help if the search feature would work here... unsure.gif
A Murder of Crows
QUOTE(SnakeEyes984 @ Jul 28 2006, 04:29 PM) *

Ok, I'm in the extras menu now. I've been looking everywhere for information on what does what. The readme.txt doesn't tell me very much, it just skips over the dual/triple boots.

Like I stated above, I'm trying to get on Live with the softmod remaining installed. With the dual boot with ms dash be able to do that and would I still be able to generate gamertags? Or would I have to go with the dual boot with Livedash?

I've been searchingfor a while now...and it would help if the search feature would work here... unsure.gif


You cold boot the system each time you want to get on live. you do NOT need the dual boot feature to do this. Use Dual Boot LiveDash to create gamertags.

clueo8
QUOTE(A Murder of Crows @ Jul 28 2006, 07:00 AM) *

copy the eeprom off that system ASAP. your hard drive is failing, and you'd much rather install a new hard drive via XBOXHDM than via a mod chip.
Using Krayzies (Advanced) Extras, choose Update Virtual Eeprom. when complete, the problem shouldnt happen any more


I got a good thing going, I don't want to mess it up... What exact is done when I go to Update Virtual Eeprom? Don't I need a new eeprom key to do this? I'm sure it will solve my problem if you say so, but I'm just curious as to what its doing...

Thanks!
clueo8
QUOTE

Using Krayzies (Advanced) Extras, choose Update Virtual Eeprom. when complete, the problem shouldnt happen any more


Shoot, wrong quote! Lets try again... delete the previous one if you can administrator!

I got a good thing going, I don't want to mess it up... What exact is done when I go to Update Virtual Eeprom? Don't I need a new eeprom key to do this? I'm sure it will solve my problem if you say so, but I'm just curious as to what its doing...

Thanks!
A Murder of Crows
QUOTE(clueo8 @ Jul 28 2006, 06:18 PM) *

Shoot, wrong quote! Lets try again... delete the previous one if you can administrator!

I got a good thing going, I don't want to mess it up... What exact is done when I go to Update Virtual Eeprom? Don't I need a new eeprom key to do this? I'm sure it will solve my problem if you say so, but I'm just curious as to what its doing...

Thanks!



It will take you real eeprom, copy it, and delete your old virtual eeprom, replacing it with the new one.

as long as your real eeprom is legit and good, you will be fine...no more MAC address errors.




I've done some delving into this....i personally prefer doing 2 systems exactly the same...getting both eeproms, then choosing one system to be "master" and the other to be "Clone".

Mod both machines using my guide in this thread (eventually i'll have a full guide done, just too busy at the moment).

when both systems are modded, copy off both eeproms and then install ConfigMagic. unlock Clone's Hard drive and carefully apply Master's eeprom to Clone, then relock CLone's Hard drive. Repeat to make certain that the eeprom change took.

What you should have at this point are 2 systems with the exact same "Real" eeprom, but different virtual eeproms. the virtual eeproms will allow you to use the systems in modded mode on a network, but the real eeproms will allow the hard drives between the systems to be interchangeable. Do not use xbox live with the Clone system as the hard drive serial number will not match with the master's hard drive SN.

take care
clueo8
QUOTE(A Murder of Crows @ Jul 29 2006, 02:46 AM) *

It will take you real eeprom, copy it, and delete your old virtual eeprom, replacing it with the new one.

as long as your real eeprom is legit and good, you will be fine...no more MAC address errors.


Is there a way to ever get back the original krayzie virtual eeprom? is there a reason to even want it? What is the advantage of making your original eeprom virtual? I thought the whole reason you had one was to protect your original from getting banned...
Hyperiority
So that the Original EEPROM doesn't get messed(corrupted).
When u try changing the video mode or anything related to directly editing the EEPROM.
thanosx
Yeah i can get em . The hard drive clicking noise dont happen till about 5 hours play time on the xbox. When u unplug the box for awhiles its fine . to get a stock c5960 its in the backups folder in the e folder right ? with the eeprom ?
A Murder of Crows
QUOTE(clueo8 @ Jul 29 2006, 04:40 AM) *

Is there a way to ever get back the original krayzie virtual eeprom? is there a reason to even want it? What is the advantage of making your original eeprom virtual? I thought the whole reason you had one was to protect your original from getting banned...



There is no such thing as "original krayzie virtual eeprom"

when you mod your system via Krayzie's installer, a copy of YOUR ORIGINAL EEPROM is made at the very start.

this COPY of YOUR ORIGINAL EEPROM becomes known as your Virtual Eeprom.


somewhere along the line, your eeprom's settings or your eeprom itself was changed.

the idea behind the virtual eeprom was to protect your real eeprom from changes you'd make with apps, such as using different/unsupported video modes (PAL on NTSC, etc). it has NOTHING to do with getting banned on XBL or anything like that. it's to make sure your original eeprom doesn't get corrupted

QUOTE(thanosx @ Jul 29 2006, 04:31 PM) *

Yeah i can get em . The hard drive clicking noise dont happen till about 5 hours play time on the xbox. When u unplug the box for awhiles its fine . to get a stock c5960 its in the backups folder in the e folder right ? with the eeprom ?



In almost all cases, i would start completely fresh.

1. Get your eeprom backed up
2. Get your Game Saves (E:\TDATA, E:\UDATA) backed up
3. Get your dashboard settings backed up (the xml or ini file, depending on what you have)

I personally use Slayer's to copy dash 5960 to my PC and start building my XBoxHD disc from there.

using a 100% fresh setup helps to ensure there is less chance of issues, and allows people to help you more easily.

this, of course, is just a suggestion. if you want, you CAN use your original C drive and E drive. remember to go into Professional Mode to do it, however, so you aren't copying your Shadow C.



On another matter, i just wanted to apologize for not getting these answered sooner....it seems i'm not recieving email notices from this thread anymore.
clueo8
QUOTE(A Murder of Crows @ Jul 31 2006, 06:46 AM) *

when you mod your system via Krayzie's installer, a copy of YOUR ORIGINAL EEPROM is made at the very start.


So back to my issue with having 2 krayzie modded boxes on the same network... how can updating my virtual eeprom do anything different if it was done already when I modded my system?
A Murder of Crows
QUOTE(clueo8 @ Aug 2 2006, 02:41 AM) *

So back to my issue with having 2 krayzie modded boxes on the same network... how can updating my virtual eeprom do anything different if it was done already when I modded my system?



depends on how you modded your system.

Krayzie's installer is used via the memory cards. If you used XBoxHDM to mod your box, and used the files off one box (the C and E drives) onto the other, then you most likely have the virtual eeprom from one box being used on the other, causing both to have the same mac address.

i have to assume that this is what's going on, since i can't think of any other way (maybe configmagic?) that you would have teh same mac addy on 2 different systems.

As long as your network is assigning DHCP, your problem is the virtual eeprom. to verify, run Krayzie's Extras, then run the 2nd "Launch Extras" option, then run Professional Mode. try to see if you can get both boxes on the network then. My guess is that you will. otherwise, something else is going on.

either way, i'd first try the virtual eeprom, and after i'd remod the box using the installer only
krayzie
the update virtual eeprom option renews the virtual eeprom using the actual eeprom from that machine.
A Murder of Crows
QUOTE(krayzie @ Aug 5 2006, 02:06 AM) *

the update virtual eeprom option renews the virtual eeprom using the actual eeprom from that machine.



Right. I was suggesting that, should the update virtual not work, he reinstall the entire mod.

I only know 3 ways to get matching mac addresses on 2 different xbox systems:


A - Mod Box 1, go pro mod, copy C and E from Box 1 into XBoxHDM, use it to pre-mod Box 2

B - Use ConfigMagic to flash Box 1's eeprom to box 2

C - By the grace of fate, he got xbox systems with the same mac addy within the eeprom.


I suspect (but have nothing save for my own expirence to base this on) that he used method A to mod Box 2. That being the case, i feel he should

1 - Update Virtual Eeprom

if that fails, he should then do

2 - Factory restore, then remod using game save method

kgonepostl
Hey krazie, I have an update and a question for you.

Update: I modded my new xbox with your installer and I now coldboot EVERY retail game and haven't been banned. I'd like to appologize again for my paranoid behavior.

Question: I replaced unleash-x with xbmc as my default dashboard. I know it's a silly question but will this effect in any way my ability to play on live? I know the answer before I ask the question I know. Dashboards are not bios dependant. However, I'm not going to pretend that I know everything there is to know and blame you for another stupid mistake that I, myself made. biggrin.gif

Am I safe?

- kgonepostl
krayzie
there is no relationship between playing live and whatever dash you have on your xbox. The exploit is completely bypassed when coldbooting retail discs.
A Murder of Crows
Been pretty quiet around here lately....begining to wonder if my FAQ should still come out....any word on 2.0 krayzie?
krayzie
A faq is always good.
I will begin working on my next version after the holidays I guess.
A Murder of Crows
Alright, well, i'll probably have a beta of the faq done by month's end, and with it should be my versions of the installer for you to check out/approve.

In a way it's kinda nice....maybe there's been enough people reading back a lil bit that they don't need all hand holding they used to.... *shrugs*

krayzie
I always thought the less people ask about the package the better I did my job.
kgonepostl
QUOTE(A Murder of Crows @ Aug 12 2006, 09:58 AM) *
Alright, well, i'll probably have a beta of the faq done by month's end, and with it should be my versions of the installer for you to check out/approve.

In a way it's kinda nice....maybe there's been enough people reading back a lil bit that they don't need all hand holding they used to.... *shrugs*



Try to give all the suggestions you can from not getting banned. Even if it's not related directly to his package tongue.gif . Lookin forward to an faq to teach n00bs like me who should know everything by now....
ElGatoHispano
Ok now i know you can have a stock hd in the xbox with a softmod and coldboot and you wont get banned........what about aftermarket hds? I have a 250gb that im going to put in an xbox do you think i'll get banned on the spot?
A Murder of Crows
there are plenty of forums/posts/faqs regarding xbox live in the online forums. if you have an issue regarding online, check there first. my faq is about modding and using Krayzie's installer, not about getting on live, though i will mention HOW to get on live in the faq.......i don't need to reinterate the stuff on the marrige theory
DragonFlame
Thank you very much Krazie, I'm looking forward to removing my old mod and giving this a shot.

DF
mike2355
hey krayzie, i just bought splintercell and i got an action replay.. i dled the ndure off a torrent and was wondering if i put both save files onto my xbox?
mike2355
nvm i got it softmodded and now i have xbmc on it and just watched scary movie 4 off it..thanx man
Joshatdot
Hello, I am noobish to Softmod'ing. My xbox was softmod'ed with Krazie's MA 2.8, and I since then used XBoxHDM 1.9 to upgrade to a 20GB HDD, and used Krazie's MA 2.8 to re-softmod the 20GB.

Is there any reason to upgrade to Krazie's NDure 1.1.1 ?
dragondude
hey guys i'm a complete noob to soft modding..

For some reason after i press run linux on mechassault it just takes me to a black screen. i then have to reset my xbox and it takes me back to the normal xbox dashboard. what the hell is going on?

i am using the krazie ndure installer v1.1 (downloaded of xbins)
datel's action replay with 8 mb memory card (bought it my self)
mechasssault with the code:MS02301L on inner ring
xbox--- k: 1.00.3944.01
D: 1.00.5690.01

I have read the tutorial and have done everything right. Idon't know why this isn't working.

I transfer udata.zip (from mechassault save) to pc database on actionreplay program which creates a child under mechassault ccalled run linux. I then transfer run linux to memory card and take it over to my xbox. I delete the mechassault title on my xbox harddrive from previous time i played and proceed to copy the gamesave on the harddrive. Eveything is fine... I turn of xbox tkae out memory card turn on xbox and insert mechassault. i select campaign. Two profiles either run linux (controls: normal Difficulty: regular Current level: going down hard) or mechwarrior. Run linux is before mechwarrior don't know if that matters. I choose run linux and it takes me to an empty black screen with xbox light on eject button still green and mechassault still running.

BTW- had subscription to xbox live but cancelled it and deleted account over a year ago... don't know if that matters.

It seems like this soft mod is the best around and it seems to work for eveyone except my xbox. Anyways hope someone has an answer to my problem and can help as soon as as possible. I've been trying to soft mod my xbox for three days and nothing has worked. Please help!!




PhilG
Fantastic Mod - thanks Krayzie. Especially liked the explanation/confirmation screens - very helpful and reassuring.
I have one question:
Would you be able to post a list of the files installed on the REAL CDrive after running the Mod?
I had an SID installation previously, which was a pain to remove, and I'd like to be certain that there are no leftover bits kicking around on the real Cdrive.
A list of folders and files that should be present in the root after a install of v1.1.1 onto a retail box would be great... smile.gif
Thanks
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