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KAGE360
went through the interview quickly and was mostly about the multiplayer. i want to know about single player however.

http://perfectdarkzero.com/journals/botwood_interview_1.htm

this part caught my eye though,

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MGS Operative: Will the single player campaign and online multiplayer be very different types of games? How did the two evolve together?



Duncan Botwood: At their cores they carry the same mechanics, the same weapons, but the fundamental difference is that in multiplayer, you will be playing against other humans. This adds an element of uncertainty to your opponent’s actions. The multiplayer levels do not use graphics taken directly from the Story mode, but they share many of the same textures and where possible are themed on the Story mode levels to provide that visual link. We did experiment early on with using the Story mode levels, but the time taken to adapt these for use in multiplayer was longer than it took to make a new multiplayer level from scratch.


if all or most of the unimpressive screens we have seen so far are taken from the multiplayer then that would explain some of it to why they look like ass.
johnnywikked
I hope to god they include bots.
Deftech
interesting blink.gif
miggidy
I posted this interview in the other PDZ thread a few days ago.
But anyways.

Duncan's basically talking about pulling multiplayer levels from the campain mode, he's not talking about a different game engine for the multiplayer stuff.
Halo 2 is an example of a game that uses multiplayer levels pulled from the campain mode as well as original multiplayer levels.
Andy51
QUOTE(johnnywikked @ Sep 5 2005, 04:13 PM)
I hope to god they include bots.
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Guys... if you read EGM hands on of Perfect Dark Zero... you would know that it does include Bots..
KAGE360
QUOTE(miggidy @ Sep 5 2005, 03:35 PM)
I posted this interview in the other PDZ thread a few days ago.
But anyways.

Duncan's basically talking about pulling multiplayer levels from the campain mode, he's not talking about a different game engine for the multiplayer stuff.
Halo 2 is an example of a game that uses multiplayer levels pulled from the campain mode as well as original multiplayer levels.
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oh sorry for the double post.

i took what he said about the graphics in a different way, that maybe they used less or different techniques for the multiplayer so they can fit the 50 player max limit. i know they dont need to make any shortcuts for the multiplayer when it comes to graphics but they havent even been working with finalized hardware. so i took it as they were using less resources for the multiplayer and really concentrating on the graphical aspects in the single player.
incognegro
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f all or most of the unimpressive screens we have seen so far are taken from the multiplayer then that would explain some of it to why they look like ass.


There is very few real screenshots of pd0 anywhere........theyre all old screens that wasnt taken from the 360 version. Ppl can speculate how it looks all they want but the truth is, we dont know shit!
KAGE360
QUOTE(incognegro @ Sep 6 2005, 06:41 AM)
There is very few real screenshots of pd0 anywhere........theyre all old screens that wasnt taken from the 360 version. Ppl can speculate how it looks all they want but the truth is, we dont know shit!
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i know we dont know shit, other then what we have read from E3 basically. i think MS is playing with fire if they wait too long in releasing some real info on this game. by X05 we better see some real footage or they will lose out on a lot of potential sales.
miggidy
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Sep 6 2005, 03:57 AM)
i took what he said about the graphics in a different way, that maybe they used less or different techniques for the multiplayer so they can fit the 50 player max limit.  i know they dont need to make any shortcuts for the multiplayer when it comes to graphics but they havent even been working with finalized hardware.  so i took it as they were using less resources for the multiplayer and really concentrating on the graphical aspects in the single player.
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That can very well be it.
At this point we know very little, in the end I am confident Rare will deliver.
As far as graphics are concerned at least, Rare's titles more often than not seem to stretch the limitations of the hardware they run on.
incognegro
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i know we dont know shit, other then what we have read from E3 basically. i think MS is playing with fire if they wait too long in releasing some real info on this game. by X05 we better see some real footage or they will lose out on a lot of potential sales


Yea like that strategy ever hurt nintendo or any company for that matter rolleyes.gif

They did the samething with halo 1 and out of nowhere.........game of the year!

they hyped halo 2 and.......everybody is disappointed.

im actually glad we are not getting overkill of coverage like GoW cause im really sick of that game and it hasnt even come out yet!

The less they tell ppl the more appealing it is, I was looking at the 360 countdown of the most anticipated titles on gametrailers the other day and i found it funny that pd0 topped the list over GoW.

The point is, its being worked on by a talented dev company, its being touted as THE title for launch, its the long awaited sequel to one of the best fps' of all time and thats all we need to friggin know. If your a fan of fps' then you have no excuse not to buy this game. When the 360 is out everybody is gonna want it.

this is their best weapon, why reveal its power so early in the fight?

Foe-hammer
The best example of a high profile xbox game that had totally different graphics for mp, compared to sp was Chaos theory. The graphics in the sp where amazing, but the mp graphics were bad; almost exactly the same as pandora tomarrow's. I'm guessing they used the same mp engine for chaos theory's mp. Probably because they didn't have enough time to mess with mp by adding chaos theory's sp engine to it.
beast96
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Sep 6 2005, 08:20 PM)
The best example of a high profile xbox game that had totally different graphics for mp, compared to sp was Chaos theory.  The graphics in the sp where amazing, but the mp graphics were bad; almost exactly the same as pandora tomarrow's.  I'm guessing they used the same mp engine for chaos theory's mp.  Probably because they didn't have enough time to mess with mp by adding chaos theory's sp engine to it.
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that pissed me off
Foe-hammer
While still fun, it was a major let down for me too.
Deftech
good thing I dislike Splinters MP to begin with, because the graphics alone would have kept me away.

Less for you guys to see me complain about beerchug.gif
KAGE360
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Sep 6 2005, 08:20 PM)
The best example of a high profile xbox game that had totally different graphics for mp, compared to sp was Chaos theory.  The graphics in the sp where amazing, but the mp graphics were bad; almost exactly the same as pandora tomarrow's.  I'm guessing they used the same mp engine for chaos theory's mp.  Probably because they didn't have enough time to mess with mp by adding chaos theory's sp engine to it.
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the reason behind that is because it is the same engine as in SC pandora tomarrow. in fact the same part of team shanghai that worked on the spy vs merc in pandora tomarrow worked on the same part for SC chaos theory. team montreal only worked on the co-op and single player modes. didnt really care as i hated the spy vs. merc, i can see where the appeal is but i just couldnt get into any kind of deathmatch.

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Yea like that strategy ever hurt nintendo or any company for that matter 

They did the samething with halo 1 and out of nowhere.........game of the year!


MS doesnt have the history in the industry that nintendo has, and with halo1 atleast they had a video at the E3 prior to launch. they showed more of halo then they are of PDZ. again how can they generate hype if there is nothing to hype about?? even though i didnt care for the first one i want this one to turn out great, however i dont see MS playing it smart with a game that has this much potential to gain so much more attention.
brooksie48
It will have as good of graphics as GOW. ph34r.gif Let the hype machine begin.
Deftech
QUOTE(brooksie48 @ Sep 7 2005, 12:02 AM)
It will have as good of graphics as GOW. ph34r.gif Let the hype machine begin.
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lol

youre a true ass tongue.gif

lets see how many believe that. Id actually fall for it if it was using the U3 engine tongue.gif
miggidy
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Sep 7 2005, 05:59 AM)
again how can they generate hype if there is nothing to hype about??
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In the words of a dope MC,
"Dope sells itself"....

Halo had the opposite of hype going for it on launch day as most thought the game was going to be crap since it's E3 showing was very weak.
And what do you know, the game turns out to be one of the best of all time and that alone propels it to the top.

If PDZ is any where near as good as Halo was then it will need no pre-hype.
People will do the hyping once they play it.

Hell it would be pretty funny if the game delivers and it turns out a lot better than what we expected, judging from what we had previously seen.
I'll be the first to yell "Conspiracy Theory! Rare and M$ lead us all to believe PDZ was going to suck only to surprise us with a great game in the end!" laugh.gif
nova805
i dont wanna sound like a fanboy, but i have loved just about everything rare has spit out, excluding that gay ass ghoullies game... everything from donkeykong, to goldeneye, to banjokazooie to perfect dark ect ect.... hell even there original games for the NES are classics... i hope they carry on the tradition of coming out with quality games... PD0 and even Kameo look to have some hidden potential that only playing the game will bring out...
Foe-hammer
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Sep 7 2005, 05:59 AM)
the reason behind that is because it is the same engine as in SC pandora tomarrow.  in fact the same part of team shanghai that worked on the spy vs merc in pandora tomarrow worked on the same part for SC chaos theory.  team montreal only worked on the co-op and single player modes.  didnt really care as i hated the spy vs. merc, i can see where the appeal is but i just couldnt get into any kind of deathmatch.
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Ya that is what i said, that chaos's mp used the same engine as pandora tomarrow.

Team montreal helped develop the mp in pandora tomarrow. In fact, they are the ones that came up with the whole idea. Shanghai had very little to do with the mp version of the game. I saw this in a video interview with team montreal.

jizmo
QUOTE(incognegro @ Sep 7 2005, 04:12 AM)
They did the samething with halo 1 and out of nowhere.........game of the year!

they hyped halo 2 and.......everybody is disappointed.

im actually glad we are not getting overkill of coverage like GoW cause im really sick of that game and it hasnt even come out yet!

Whoaw, have you actually seen any brochures MS has published? PDZ is hyped to the max in printed media, every time I see x360 promotion stuff from MS, there's always that same old image of Joanna.

Sure, it's a cute face - but I'm really growing bored seeing that mugshot all the time instead of actual screenshots.

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incognegro
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MS doesnt have the history in the industry that nintendo has


so? atleast Ms not like nintendo where their history is the only thing they have left.

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with halo1 atleast they had a video at the E3 prior to launch. they showed more of halo then they are of PDZ. again how can they generate hype if there is nothing to hype about?? even though i didnt care for the first one i want this one to turn out great, however i dont see MS playing it smart with a game that has this much potential to gain so much more attention


That is ridiculous, I said its the sequel to one of the best fps' of all time! dont tell me there is nothing to hype about. Not because You didnt care for the first one doesnt mean other people dont care enough to check it out at launch.

Most of ms' employees have been playing wip builds of the game and they all seem positive about what they have seen. Im looking at that and saying that I understand what theyre doing; yes there isnt a million new stories and trailers on the net (like GoW which is not even a launch title) because they dont want to let the cat out bag. They think its good enough to sell without that sort of hype machine.


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Whoaw, have you actually seen any brochures MS has published? PDZ is hyped to the max in printed media, every time I see x360 promotion stuff from MS, there's always that same old image of Joanna.

Sure, it's a cute face - but I'm really growing bored seeing that mugshot all the time instead of actual screenshots.


Them promoting the joanna character doesnt necessarily mean theyre hyping the game. Theyre trying to get her to be a recognizable character since nintendo didnt do it. For those that dont know perfect datk they will see here face alot and wanna check out the game but for hardcore enthusiasts (those who know the history of the game) dont need screenshots and movies to know that this game is gonna be good.


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In the words of a dope MC,
"Dope sells itself"....

Halo had the opposite of hype going for it on launch day as most thought the game was going to be crap since it's E3 showing was very weak.
And what do you know, the game turns out to be one of the best of all time and that alone propels it to the top.

If PDZ is any where near as good as Halo was then it will need no pre-hype.
People will do the hyping once they play it.

Hell it would be pretty funny if the game delivers and it turns out a lot better than what we expected, judging from what we had previously seen.
I'll be the first to yell "Conspiracy Theory! Rare and M$ lead us all to believe PDZ was going to suck only to surprise us with a great game in the end!"


Smartest shit ive heard so far......
miggidy
QUOTE(incognegro @ Sep 7 2005, 12:42 PM)
That is ridiculous, I said its the sequel to one of the best fps' of all time! dont tell me there is nothing to hype about. Not because You didnt care for the first one doesnt mean other people dont care enough to check it out at launch.

Most of ms' employees have been playing wip builds of the game and they all seem positive about what they have seen. Im looking at that and saying that I understand what theyre doing; yes there isnt a million new stories and trailers on the net (like GoW which is not even a launch title) because they dont want to let the cat out bag. They think its good enough to sell without that sort of hype machine.

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That there's the reason why I'm hyped about this game.
Hell I've been waiting for this game for years now since it missed an entire generation.

And I agree with the second part as well.
Rare seems pretty confident about the game, so is M$. And the game has had nothing but possitive impressions on those who've actually played it. The only one's with the negative impression are those who've only seen a bunch of old screen shots. And that there is a fact pop.gif
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