cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 13 2005, 01:36 AM
I have a stock Seagate ST310014ACE drive. It is lockable cause I have locked it, and I can unlock it. The real problem: I can't seem to figure out how to lock it with the correct password. I even used the eeprom locking method, and it still boots with error 6. Is it possible to flash another eeprom to the motherboard while using the rebuild c parition in xboxhdm? Cause if you can, I think I flashed a blank or incorrect eeprom to it, but now I have the correct one and I'm trying to lock the hdd with that and it doesn't work. Ideas, comments, and help is MUCH appreciated! ( Considering this is a special topic and it has never been answered in any other post.)
DaddyJ
Sep 13 2005, 02:20 AM
if you've flashed a blank eeprom to your box, then the hd needs to be locked with that eeprom, but that wouldnt work, so borrow a chip, flash back your correct eeprom, and correctly lock your drive to the same eeprom.
Cio
Sep 13 2005, 08:35 AM
Yeah thats fucked

i did that once with avalaunch's restore eeprom backup (thats prob why they removed the function). Luckily it was a chipped box.
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 13 2005, 10:55 PM
So, IT IS possible to flash an eeprom to an xbox. Now, why can't I just unlock it, wipe the parition table, build the C: from scratch (and this is where it flashes the correct eeprom from the cd) and then lock it with that correct eeprom?
Why do I need a chip?
Neilor
Sep 14 2005, 04:11 PM
You could only do this if you had a chip that would allow the drive to boot unlocked.
Since you've been working this problem for a while, I think at this stage you should look at getting a solderless chip to get the box back up and running.
My hunch based on this thread and previous ones you've had on the subject is that you've got the wrong eeprom.bin file.
If you load the eeprom.bin into LiveInfo Beta3 it will give you the Xbox Serial Number (Second line - under the select Xbox Version) which should match the label on the underside of the Xbox. If these are not the same then it's the wrong eeprom backup.
If the serial numbers match then it would appear the eeprom has been modified or overwritten using ConfigMagic.
This is the only thing that makes sense as I know xboxhdm works fine, i've used it only last week to upgrade a drive and it went without a hitch.
Hope you sort it out ... again double check the serial numbers.
Cio
Sep 14 2005, 05:25 PM
QUOTE(cTTbLaKeMAn @ Sep 14 2005, 12:06 AM)
So, IT IS possible to flash an eeprom to an xbox. Now, why can't I just unlock it, wipe the parition table, build the C: from scratch (
and this is where it flashes the correct eeprom from the cd) and then lock it with that correct eeprom?
Why do I need a chip?
Ehm.. the EEPROM is a chip on the xbox mobo containing video settings, XBL key, serial and HDkey. Its not on the hard drive! The hard drive is locked using info FROM the eeprom DUMP. Since you dont have a proper eeprom dump, you cant lock the HD. Meaning you need to boot from a hacked BIOS (and since u cant boot the box to flash the TSOP, you need a chip)
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 14 2005, 09:01 PM
Ok, so I need a chip, but how or why would this happen in the first place? I do have the correct eeprom but somehow when I lock it with it it gives me error 6.
I got the eeprom from LiveInfo Beta 2.
If I need a hacked bios, why can't I just use Xbox HDM and install a UXE softmod or Ndure softmod? I don't want to pay for a chip!
And can LiveInfo Beta 3 be found in the usual places? Cause I can only find Beta 2.
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 14 2005, 10:51 PM
I finally found out my mistake. Here's how it goes: When I decided to make the Xbox HDM cd, (My very very first one) I somehow put in an incorrect eeprom and and wiped the fatx parition using the error 12 unlock exploit. After I did that, I rebuilt the C and Locked it. BOOM error 6. So, I locked it with an incorrect eeprom that goes to a different box. So, in conclusion, I didn't back up the xboxes eeprom, instead I used a different one from a different box.....(Retarded, I know.) So, I cannot access the eeprom, but the only thing I'm left with is an unlocked hdd and a calculated hdd password. So, now I'm thinking of a dual harddrive mod, or if theres a way to recover an eeprom in this situation. But, I'm going to write a FULLBLOWN tutorial on using xboxhdm. Instead the 5 minute one I followed that was vague and had grammar and spelling mistakes. Have a good day, and thanks for all the help. Is it still possible to use a chip?
Cathesdus
Sep 14 2005, 11:11 PM
A chip wont just work with error 6 (Cannot Unlock HD). Unlock the harddrive so it gives you error 5 (HD Not Locked) and then install a chip or Relock with the eeprom from your xbox (I believe you said you didnt have the correct xbox eeprom). However, you DID say you have the calculated HD password... Is this the one using the eeprom from YOUR xbox? There are apps for lockign harddrives simply using this password, which you can enter manually in the event you dont have the eeprom. If none of this applies to you, just unlock the HD so it gives you error 5 and then install a chip. Chips with newer bios allow you to use your xbox with the HD unlocked but newer chips make it super easy and practically brainless (I have an X3 CE) to lock the HD using the eeprom on the xbox.
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 15 2005, 03:14 AM
haha, sweet, one thing, I have tried that calculated pass over and over, it don't work. All though I'll get a solderless chip. Maybe an Xenium ICE. Or maybe the one you recommended. Oh, and once the chip is installed and it runs... can I then lock the hdd and run it normally?
Neilor
Sep 15 2005, 09:02 AM
QUOTE
I locked it with an incorrect eeprom that goes to a different box.
I've lost count of the number of times you were told it's the wrong eeprom
QUOTE
I'm going to write a FULLBLOWN tutorial on using xboxhdm. Instead the 5 minute one I followed that was vague and had grammar and spelling mistakes.
Vagueness and grammer managed to mix up the eeproms?
If the tutorial is an improvement on anything else out there it's gotta be a good contribution.
QUOTE
Oh, and once the chip is installed and it runs... can I then lock the hdd and run it normally?
Once it's chipped, make sure the drive is unlocked using the XBOXSCENE password, get a copy of ConfigMagic and run it on the Xbox, select Lock HD... job done, you can finish the softmod and remove the chip.
P.S.: If you use ConfigMagic, your master password will be changed from XBOXSCENE to TEAMASSEMBLY.
Cio
Sep 15 2005, 10:16 AM
Look here dude, you keep forgetting to tell us what the hell you did in what steps.
i mean..
QUOTE
I somehow put in an incorrect eeprom and and wiped the fatx parition using the error 12 unlock exploit
wtfwtfwtfw??
BTW how did you UNLOCK the hard drive to begin with (i mean how can you lock the drive with a wrong eeprom if you cant unlock it first..)
If you did that from the xbox itself, then the HD probably contains an eeprom backup of the box it came from! You can use xboxhdm to copy the eeprom to a floppy, then lock it with that eeprom. tadaa ur done.
Neilor
Sep 15 2005, 10:58 AM
He originally used the xboxhdm package so the XBOXSCENE master password was set at that point....
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 15 2005, 12:22 PM
i used the error 12 to unlock it for 60 seconds then it locked itself again. BUT, whenever I try to grab the eeprom from xboxhdm, its all zeros except for hdd calcualated password.
I'm looking at an X3 CE right now, and they look pretty useful. But if and when I get one, I will need help with the solderless adapter.
Neilor
Sep 16 2005, 08:50 AM
When you say it's all zeros, is this through LiveInfo?
Cio
Sep 16 2005, 12:22 PM
@cTTbLaKeMAn
Your tut on xboxhdm sucks ass. Sorry to say so but it lacks even basic info. Although the grammar seems good.
small remarks:
YOU CANNOT UNLOCK A HD IF YOU DONT HAVE THE EEPROM
or
YOU CANNOT UNLOCK A HD UNLESS YOU LOCKED IT YOURSELF AT ONE POINT
Both cases would at least EXPLAIN your error 6, possibly even FIX it. But since your not reading anything posted here fully.. please, go out and waste money on the most expensive chip on the market, you seem to have the brains to be able to use it to its full potential.
Again:
If you unlocked/locked the HD (this would cause a master password to be set) in ur xbox, you have an eeprom backup on the HD (you can extract that to a floppy via xboxhdm).
If you unlocked the HD via xboxhdm via eeprom (if u used master pass see above) then you have a working eeprom backup. Find that eeprom.
Edit: stop calculating crap manually. just put the (potential)eeprom(s) (one at a time) in the xboxhdm\linux\eeprom\ folder and try to lock with that, see if it boots past error 6.
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 17 2005, 02:49 AM
Thanks for negative feedback. You could have just said it needs work or something. But I tried both eeproms. Both don't work. So I will just use it as a doorstop, cause its rediculous to buy a chip for $50. Thats more than I got the xbox for.
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 17 2005, 02:50 AM
QUOTE(Neilor @ Sep 16 2005, 05:01 AM)
When you say it's all zeros, is this through LiveInfo?
Yes, this is in LiveInfo Beta 2. The Only thing it gives me is the calculated password which I have tried locking with and and doesn't work.
And I don't know how the xbox was unlocked. My guess is that the eeprom somehow became corrupt. But without knowing that, I wiped the fatx parition and and rebuilt from scratch. SO, everything is gone except the working dashboard files.
I might customize the cover of it, and do some case modding to it. But I just dont wanna spend that much on a chip!
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 17 2005, 03:07 AM
Would a Duo X-2 (
Found Here) Do the trick to grab the eeprom and boot a hacked bios so I can go to evox and the xbox will run?
Neilor
Sep 17 2005, 12:55 PM
@cTTbLaKeMAn : What version is the Xbox your working on ?
If your answer is a 1.6, then you need Beta3 Liveinfo... this would explain why your getting rubbish passwords.
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 17 2005, 01:05 PM
Im pretty sure its a 1.0 or 1.1. But could I try using Beta 3 anyways? It couldn't hurt to try. Where can I find beta 3, in the usual places?
What if I take Eepmod and change a blank eeprom to FIT my serial number on the bottom of the xbox, and I make up a MAC address and an online key and the video region? And then use that to lock the xbox?
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 17 2005, 01:44 PM
AH HA! I got it! I didn't look at the mfg date. Its mfg date is 9-24-2004 which means:
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Detecting XBOX v1.6
1) Before buying the XBOX and bringing it home
A. Looking at the Manufacture Date
Manufacture Dates Listed For v1.6
03-18-2004
03-19-2004
03-22-2004
03-23-2004
03-25-2004
03-28-2004
04-01-2004
04-02-2004
04-04-2004
04-06-2004
CONCLUSION: Anything AFTER (3-18-2004) is MOST LIKELY a v1.6
"
ITS A 1.6 GOSH!
Ok, well, redo this whole thing over again with LiveInfo Beta 3.
Ill let you know what happens!
EDIT: Well I did a hotswap, went to Beta 3, and switch drives then switched to xbox v1.6 and still all fields were zeros, except for the gray fields at the bottom, those were correct.
Neilor
Sep 19 2005, 11:42 AM
Did you load the eeprom.bin into liveinfo?
You shouldn't be seeing zeros...
1. Select your Xbox Version
2. Click on the LOAD EEPROM (Bottom left corner of the screen)
The data should change straight away from the default zeros...
Only after this will it calculate a correct password.
3. Select the drive (IDE Device drop box)
Cio
Sep 19 2005, 12:11 PM
QUOTE(cTTbLaKeMAn @ Sep 17 2005, 04:00 AM)
Thanks for negative feedback. You could have just said it needs work or something.
Well if i wanna help you, i need to be honest right.. So that uncludes telling you that you totally misunderstand the point and should not attempt to help others when you cant even help yourself.
I suggest reading my post (at the top) AGAIN and stop using anything besides xboxhdm. Its all you need.
Just try locking the drive with xboxhdm/both eeproms. It that doesn't work, you dont have a proper eeprom backup OR ur eeprom chip in the box is fucked. Both cases require you to boot an unlocked BIOS (meaning a chip, temp will do) and flash on a decent eeprom.
If you want i can provide you with a decent 1.6 eeprom so you know for sure that you have a decent eeprom dump.
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 19 2005, 12:20 PM
Wait, so you can provide me with a 1.6 eeprom, and then I use that in xboxhdm and it will lock it? Because whenever I try to grab the eeprom, its all zeros, (From liveinfo and xboxhdm)
But yes, I would like that 1.6 dump. Thank you!
My aim sn is: cTT bLaKeMAn
email is: cTTbLaKeMAn@gmail.com
Cio
Sep 19 2005, 01:37 PM

I dont have an eeprom for your xbox now do i.. i just said.. if it turns out your eeprom in ur xbox is fucked, i can provide you with a decent 1.6 eeprom to fix that (so you can softmod the box after a temp chip)
Now please, for the love of god, try this:
(assuming you have a lockable HD that is currently unlocked)
burn an xboxhdm cd with eeprom dump no. 1
lock the hd (option 3 from the menu)
put it in the xbox
Got an error number higher then 6? Good, thats the right eeprom!
Got error 6 again? 2 bad, unlock the hd with the CD you just made.
burn an xboxhdm cd with eeprom dump no. 2
lock the hd
put it in the xbox
Got an error number higher then 6? Good, thats the right eeprom!
Got error 6 again? 2 bad, you dont have a proper eeprom dump or the eeprom in the box is fucked. You're gonna need a chip
Again, all you need is xboxhdm
Neilor
Sep 19 2005, 04:45 PM
@cTTbLaKeMAn : The only reason I'm recommending using Liveinfo was to ensure you have the correct eeprom, on previous posts I've asked you to load the eeprom, get the Xbox serial number and verify against the Xbox serial number label.
This will take the guess work out of which eeprom is the correct one (if any).
@Cio: Agreed, xboxhdm is all anyone should need for this.
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 19 2005, 09:10 PM
Ok well, I have used 2 different ones so, I have come to the conclusion that I need a chip. Would a Duo X-2 do the trick? They are about 14$ and I could buy one of those.
Ok, so, somehow, by erasing the fat-x parition in xbox hdm will screw your eeprom up? Or is it rebuilding? One of those has to be it or else I wouldn't have this problem.
EDIT: Whoa, I was just searching and thinking, if had a fucked eeprom chip then wouldn't I get error 2?
"2 - bootldr - Eeprom check failed
When you see this error most of the times you have flashed something wrong. Or you dropped solder on your eeprom chips.
"
DaddyJ
Sep 19 2005, 09:36 PM
XboxHDM cannot do anything to the physcial eeprom chip.
Cio
Sep 19 2005, 10:22 PM
QUOTE
Ok well, I have used 2 different ones so, I have come to the conclusion that I need a chip. Would a Duo X-2 do the trick? They are about 14$ and I could buy one of those.
Yeah, if you can get one, get a blue one (the're pre flashed). you will need to solder it in though. And some of the points are pretty small, so get some practice!
QUOTE
Ok, so, somehow, by erasing the fat-x parition in xbox hdm will screw your eeprom up? Or is it rebuilding? One of those has to be it or else I wouldn't have this problem.
No the eeprom chip is on ur xbox mobo. You cant do anything to it using xboxhdm.
QUOTE
EDIT: Whoa, I was just searching and thinking, if had a fucked eeprom chip then wouldn't I get error 2?
"2 - bootldr - Eeprom check failed
Nope cause thats a PHYSICAL defect. (besides you dont see bootloader errors, they cause a F-R-A-G) You simply put a blank eeprom on there or something, that dun matter now, whats done is done.
Pm me when you got the xbox chipped and have FTP access. Ill provide you with what you need then.
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 20 2005, 01:13 AM
ok, blue chip, got it, I'm very good at soldering already, but the drive must be unlocked to use the hacked bios right? Cause right now it is unlocked.
Cio
Sep 20 2005, 07:56 AM
unlocked or locked to current xbox eeprom. In your case unlocked.
Neilor
Sep 20 2005, 03:36 PM
@cTTbLaKeMAn:
I've finally figured out where you screwed up....
You need to take down the "A FULL detailed guide on using Xbox HDM" tutorial in your signature.... Anyone following this tutorial will be in the same mess your in very quickly.
The specific error I've seen (and I haven't read it all, so there may be more).
QUOTE
Do a quick windows hotswap to get your eeprom using LiveInfo Beta 2.
So right click my computer, properties, system management, device manager, disk drives. Now unplug your CD ROM drive IDE cable to your xbox drive. Then hit scan for hardware changes on your computer. Once it finds it, DONT RIGHT CLICK ON ANYTHING. Windows has a tendency to crash. Then open LiveInfo Beta 2.exe and make sure to switch the hdd drive at the bottom. Then hit save as .BIN. That will save your eeprom. Save it in the Linux>eeprom folder.
I don't know where you got this info from but it's way off.... to put it in basic terms:
1. An eeprom is a chip on your xbox that contains configuration information such as region, serial number, HD key and other stuff.
2. IT DOES NOT normally exist as a file on your Xbox harddrive.
3. To make a backup of your eeprom people normally use EvolutionX and select the Backup menu option, this will create a backup of you eeprom, bios and hd info, the data will be in a sub-directory of EvolutionX called backup. The eeprom.bin file should be transferred from this directory and put onto the XboxHDM directory to create the ISO.
What you've done, and instructed others to do is to use LiveInfo to create a blank eeprom.bin with no information at all in it.
If your putting together a tutorial, you need to make sure you are as close to 100% experienced in using the tool or method, the fact you haven't ever succeeded in using XboxHDM sadly doesn't put you into that category on this occassion.
Neilor
Sep 21 2005, 11:23 AM
@cTTbLaKeMAn: If you used one of Krayzies installers on this Xbox the eeprom.bin should be in the E:\Backup\Eeprom directory.
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 21 2005, 02:21 PM
Well, I didn't use the installer on this box, but even if I did, I wiped the fatx parition and everything on the drive. EVERYTHING IS GONE! Besides New folders and MS Dash files.
Neilor
Sep 21 2005, 04:00 PM
Wait for the chip then, get the eeprom.bin through Evox once you've the chip installed... even in chipped mode you never know, it could still get you out of a scrape.
cTTbLaKeMAn
Sep 22 2005, 02:00 PM
This post,
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=443446 states that xboxhdm is having problems getting calculated hdd passwords from v1.6 boxes. What if that is the same problem for me? I believe I have Xboxhdm v1.7 and they said v1.9 fixed this. Any ideas?
You guys have given me the best help so far. Thanks very much!
Cathesdus
Sep 22 2005, 03:01 PM
I don't understand... You UNLOCKED the harddrive meaning you AT ONE POINT had the CORRECT EEPROM. Then you relocked the harddrive using a DIFFERENT EEPROM. However, you now cannot find the CORRECT EEPROM to lock it back up...
1)Why do you have more than one EEPROM if you only have one xbox? I could undertsand this if maybe you modded an Xbox for friends and wanted to keep them in a backup folder but the honest truth is you seem to have trouble doing this for yourself...
2)You are absolutely sure you can't find the correct eeprom file.
Neilor was right. You don't just create an eeprom.bin and think thats going to work. That's like creating text files, naming them xboxdash.xbe and expecting them to boot. The EEPROM is the single most important chip on the xbox as far as booting is concerned.
You are left with one option, which I know has been said a thousand times. Modchip. And Cio, I agree with you. I have had two Softmodded Xbox's in the past and my newest Xbox I decided to put the X3 CE in because I wanted to make sure it would always be good to go.
You probobly don't need this chip, it was quite expensive (~$70 with shipping) and contains a bunch of features you probobly dont need but I do know the EEPROM backup feature is definately something you wouldn't mind having...
My FINAL 2 cents.
Neilor
Sep 22 2005, 03:03 PM
Your problem is definitely to do with the way you created the eeprom.bin with the LiveInfo program, you probably would have run into other difficulties by using XboxHdm 1.7, so you should upgrade that anyway, but it still can't work without the eeprom.bin
Cio
Sep 22 2005, 03:15 PM
QUOTE(cTTbLaKeMAn @ Sep 22 2005, 03:11 PM)
This post,
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=443446 states that xboxhdm is having problems getting calculated hdd passwords from v1.6 boxes. What if that is the same problem for me? I believe I have Xboxhdm v1.7 and they said v1.9 fixed this. Any ideas?
Yeah, read up next time and use up to date apps. You unlocked ur HD, cant find your original eeprom, created a blank one and expected that to work, used old versions to manage ur eeprom etcetc.
Oh and in case these q's pop up later:
If ur backups dont work.. clear ur cache. If that doesn't work ur DVD drive is probably busted.
Neilor
Sep 23 2005, 08:41 AM
@Cio: A pre-emptive strike?
Cio
Sep 23 2005, 09:42 AM

to avoid any nasty threads later.
Neilor
Sep 23 2005, 01:09 PM
@cTTbLaKeMAn
Check out the following tutorial, it's about hotswapping but it gives very clear instructions on XboxHdm use....
Hotswapping Tutorial
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