Is anyone disappointed in the graphics of Tony Hawk? In my mind, the game has not improved since the first Tony Hawk on xbox. You look at games like NBA 2k6. and NBA Live and you think, and compare to tony hawk.



I am not 100% but this game will be a huge non seller. I like the tony hawk series, but this game does not appeal to me, in fact I think it sucks.

Why are you comparing it to these games anyway? ITS TONY HAWK! The only improvements you should be expecting is gameplay improvements.

man thug 2 was a fuck load better than tw4 on xbox. the game isn't finished yet and i think it will be fun for a few days atleast. i think this is a rent it than buy it game.


nba live looks crap

how can you compare games that have an enclosed area (NBA games) with a set limit of characters on screen to a game that has a VAST landscape and draw distance showing hundreds of detailed objects?? thats like saying halo is ugly compared to DoA3 which is just stupid. take EVERYTHING into consideration when you judge how a game looks. this game wasnt built from the ground up for the 360 and is a cross-generation game. for what its worth i was really impressed with the latest build of this game and think it will be a huge success.

as someone has said, its about the gameplay that you should be concerned about and for them to give you such a HUGE skatepark to play around in how the hell can you complain if you claim to be a tony hawk fan?

think before you speak or all you will get is flamed

I dont mind getting flamed because that could happen with any post. I am all for gameplay as that is what counts in the end. I just think graphics on all games should be taken to the next level.

If you had to deal with PS1 graphics on the Xbox but had great gameplay, would you have been a critic? yes i think so. The graphics so far on tony hawk look much like previous versions. I agree with the poster above that this will be a rent only title.

Last thing to note, i posted this last night after staying up pretty late and I watched some of the Tony hawk vids from IGN and they kept showing the producer talking about all these tricks and i was not impressed, in comparison to games like PGR3, NBA Live, PD0, etc.

I think if someone walked into your house and you were playing a game like NBA 2k6, people would have to do a double take to see if it was a real game on, that is the level i want things at.

did you not pay any attention to anything that has been said?? its a port. you cant compare games like PDO, PGR3, and Live to tony hawk. you just cant, if the levels in tony hawk was the same size as a basketball court or a level of PD0 then you still couldnt compare the two games because ITS A PORT! also even if the game was being built from the ground up for the 360 (or ps3 for that matter) it still couldnt reach the level of detail and realism that you are asking for because it isnt possible! again comparing enclosed or linear games to an open ended huge city is not possible, get it that time? learn atleast the basics of game development before you post again.

what rock do these people crawl out from?

dude you are a jerk hands down. I am the consumer, not a programmer, i dont have to learn all that crap, as most people that play games do not learn about the development into a game in order to play it, or is that what you waste your time on?

What rock did I crawl out of, the one that would bust the side of your head if I got to meet you in person is which one!

Go ahead, waste more of your time responding to me.

Calm down people. If m_hael hears of this thread it will hurt his feelings.

i dont think im wasting my time at all, i find your ignorance quite amusing. if you dont care to atleast have common sense when it comes to the basics of game development then you have no right in voicing your opinion. thats like me complaining and comparing cars while knowing nothing of auto-mechanics and vehicles. so dont get all sensetive and calling people jerks and make useless threats because they make you look or feel stupid.

People are entitled to their own opinion Kage, chill out. If someone does agree with you regaurdless of ignorance that is no excuse to not let them voice their opinion.

Evered heard of freedom of speach?

No, that's right you have blocked me just like every other people you don't agree with.

WTF are you talking about? i dont have you blocked nor anyone else. Im as chilled as chilled can be, im not the one make threats or calling names. you are right that everyone has the right to voice their opinion but when someone tries to help them and they ignore it completely then i think thats wrong. i agree he could keep spouting but he will have to deal with flaming and arguements from such comments.

yes amitidally (spell) he was insulting you and probably deserved flamming. I was just speaking in general about a number of topics where you have acted a bit harshly towards memember and I'm not talking about the ones I have tainted.

again i have no idea what your talking about. the only ones i can be a bit harsh rescently to are you, wedding, infamous, and deftones. and i try to do better then just insulting anyone. the only thing i basically do is state facts when people like to preach BS. besides what are you doing keeping tabs on anyone?? isnt that the moderaters jobs? i respect many people on this forum and in the time of posting here have a good idea who knows what their talking about and who doesnt. also i have never gone out of my way to piss someone off or lower myself into pointlessly insulting someone so if anyone decides to be sensitive to the truth its not my fault or problem.

i say we get past all this un-needed drama (theres enough in this forum) and get back to the topic at hand.

ive played a few tony hawks games and i cant remember one that looked paticularly
impressive,but then i dont think these games have to rely on photo realistic graphics to shift quantities.they are fun for the casual gamer even more so for skateboarders etc.and theres even something for the hardcore, combos,secrets and the like.from what ive read about this game and if they can get a good live set up then this could be quite interesting.

Ok.

It looks like shit even for an Xbox1 game.

People don't be over critical about this game, I'm sure M_hael and his team are doing their best....

OK, it's not as next gen graphics-wise as some of us are hoping for but, it's the gameplay that counts for me. I'm a Tony Hawks series fan, still play every now and then on my Xbox. It's great for a bit of pick up and play fun and great fun to play through.

New in game footage of Tony Hawks:

Hi res: http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=8016&type=wmv

Low res: http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=8015&type=wmv

I reckon it looks a lot better than previous stuff I've seen, it's still on my preorder list!

If gameplay is all that matters then we wouldn't be playing video games at all. Go play cards or something.

Chess is some great gameplay.

its not so simple as that. a lot of people dont consider the DC to have good graphics but i still play it to this day. to me, as long as the game doesnt look like ass, its usually the gameplay that matters most.

DC is the Jesuit Christo of Video Games. It was graphically ahead of the ps2, which was released after it.

Smart ass

Let me rephrase, As far as Tony Hawks goes the gameplay is more important to me, I'm not expecting out of this world graphics, I'd rather sacrifice that for an open environment to play in. Some may argue the series hasn't progressed and I know for a fact some of my mates say "man it's so boring now, same old same old". Maybe so, but I like it. Personal preference.

ML.

ps I hate chess and I'm shit at cards

You know, I have this wild and crazy idea. If you like skating so much that you still play the Tony Hawk games, go outside and skate. Honestly, Activision is like EA Junior anymore. Tony Hawk continues to become more and more unrealistic every game, yet still plays just like the original. Whats next, we can skate on the top of a volcano No thats right, just an entire city that will be full of ramps instead of sidewalks How far fetched will this game have to become before Tony Hawk even says take my name off it.

Activision................More Like Electronic Activision or for short EA

Another Smart ass

I tried skating and I was shit at that as well, much easier to sit on a sofa and play it. Yeah sure it's unreallistic. I'd like to try a skate sim game if one was available. Maybe you should make one seeing as you seem so upset with the current state of play with Activision.

Man, did you ever play the second ghostbusters game on a home computer in 1989? that was crazy terrible and stupidly hard I almost threw my Atari ST out the window. Activision have been around for years and had plenty of duffs. Not sure about your point. And not 100% sure why everyone's hating on EA so much. I enjoy some of their games believe it or not, you probably do as you probably think I'm pathetic enjoying Tony Hawks games.

Peace.

Mate chill. Read deftones sig and you will see what is going on here. He is a pissy person.
Anyway, we have an activision developer on the scene 'm_hael', a well repected member and very knowledgeable, he works on the toney hawks games, perhaps he will tell you if a skater sim is in development (if not under NDA).

everyone has their own opinion, i think that tony hawk fans know by now what to expect from the series and as long as the devs keep trying to innovate the series then the fans should be happy.

i got to say though that i love that sig, i laughed out loud when i first saw that.

Exactly Kage! and Oz, I'm chilled as a penguin, just trying to work out Deftones train of thought. Too many "Pissy" smart asses about on here.

Glad you like the Sig Kage Couldn't resist shopping it when I saw the Peter Moore pic. Was gonna go for some Martial arts theme but thought this was funnier.

You have lost all respect.

J\K


You say gameplay matters, but your praising a game thats game play hasn't changed sequal after sequal after sequal sequal after sequal after sequal

Learn to play Chess....then you'll know what gameplay is.

Haha!

Sorry, I just have no respect for a company that makes the same game year after year (like Activision and EA) with just new levels and worlds. I also don't have any respect for a developer that wastes their time on something like that. I'd rather play Tony Hawk 1 on the PSX or Tony Hawk 2 on PC. Its not like the 360 graphics are that much better.
Example Tony Hawk 2 on PC

and tony hawk xbox 360


after all these years, I expect more, but shite games is what you get when a company makes a new one every year or shall I say rehashes their old one year after year

I second that.

Tony Hawk 1-4 were 2 minute or so time limit try to complete make runs to complete said task
Tony Hawk Underground 1-2 were a story line based missions Yes they included simular tasks but it was better layed out. Also the trick list has improved ( the screen shots that were a comparison can easily show that the character is higher res and so are the textures. I am sure if you show Tony hawk 2 at it's best and this new tony hawk's best you would easily see the difference but the Tony Hawk 2 shot is showing very little geometry and the new game is showing just buildings. I have seen better shots then that) but designs of the levels have improved and animation is more fluid. Also it's skating how much can they improve?

what people are bitching about can be applied to so many games. most racing series are nothing more then updated graphics and changed courses, a lot of fighting games are added moves and new fighting arenas, most sports games are updated rosters and new moves. if all these genres can get away with it why cant a skateboard game?

im not taking anyone side, hell i dont even care much for the tony hawk series, but i do know its a good game for what it tries to be. but what people are seeing as faults in this series need to look other places to reflect that its almost everywhere and in some respects there is nothing wrong with it. i love the VF, DoA, and street fighter games even though they have gradually improved and have been refined over the years (just like tony hawk games). there are many games that fallow this path and they continue to gather a huge fallowing (again just like the tony hawk series).

so if this game isnt your bag then pay no attention to it.

on a side note i have a problem with EA for more reasons then the rehash titles, and as for activision, i see a lot of good coming from them. they have given us the best spiderman games ever created, the first skateboard games that are actually fun and challenging, and are giving us some of the best WWII moments with the CoD series.

Your right, they jumped on the WWII bandwagon Do yourself a favor sometime, count the number of WWII shooters, FPS or 3rd PS, the number will astound you. I'm sorry but COD might be better than the series it copies (medal of honor) but its not that far ahead. As far as it just being a WWII game, yup thats originality


And about my screens, i was just showing the pathetic progress it has gained over the years.

i understand how many WWII games are out there and in no way am i saying its a good thing, thats why im happy the vietnam fad died real quick in gaming. however unlike 90% of the other WWII games, i think CoD does a good job of achieving what they try to do. its a good game and its also a good shooter, you cant expect any originality from a game that is based on the past, but you can expect innovation in the way the game is played and experienced and IMO CoD2 does a fantastic job of providing a fun, exciting and authentic experience as far as WWII shooters go. since you cant really expand much on the past they have improved on how they present it with the scenes of war, the great AI, and the huge expansive areas you battle in. would you downplay Brothers in Arms because its a WWII shooter as well? i hope not as that is a great game and will turn into a great series as well. hell IMO CoD and Brothers in Arms are the only good WWII games out in the market. its bad when there is such an overcrowded market for a type of game but its not so bad when you can tell whats crap and whats not.

Skate or Die on NES was more innovative than the entire Tony Hawk series put together.

you cant even begin to compare two games like that. you could compare skate or die on the ps1 with tony hawk as they are both 3d skateboarding games.

it seems like to me some of you guys are looking for reasons not to like this game and that the series has gotten old to you even though you arent fans of the series. it makes no sense to me. if the existence of the series is that annoying to you then just ignore it completely because no matter how much bickering or complaining is done it will still exist and continue to sell well. besides i would wait till the next installment in the series to judge its next gen debut as this is a cross generation game and shouldnt be scrutinized so much. like i said before, i think it looks great and for those who love it im sure this will be the best playing version out there.

Back when I was in high school, Tony Hawk was the coolest thing around. Except for Skate of Die on the NES and some stupid EA games thingy (I don't really remember) on the PS1, there was no skateboarding game anywhere. We played Coolboarders because it was all we had.

Tony Hawk came out and was awesome! It kept getting better with each new installment, and I think THUG 2 is a pretty good game. My only complaint is that I like the Playstation controller better than the xbox one for this game. Oh well...

Edit: I searched and it looks like I'll be ordering a Dreambox converter .

Wow... this thread didn't go south it started there...
I'm ashamed that I didn't catch it sooner...

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