N00bvin
Sep 3 2002, 10:55 PM
Now, on the easybuy website, it lists the Xodus as being able to play different region games... it says NOTHING about running unsigned code.
I hope this is just an error in advertising and not the facts... not being able to run unsigned code would suck for an xbox mod...
Now, if it's flash upgradable (which it seems it is), then you would be able to put whatever bios you wanted on there... problem solved. However, who said anything about the bios? Maybe this mod chip does not affect the bios... would it really have to play multi-region games?
Look at the debug xbox... isn't it capable of playing any region? Does it change bios' when it does this? I don't think so... so maybe they plucked that out of the debug kit?
I don't know, I'm still skeptical of this mod... I don't see how it's possible yet. It may very well be true... look how Evox surprised us... but for now I don't know.
If it IS true, I'm buying some more Xboxes and some Xodus chips and some hard drives and hooking my friends up (well, yeah, I sell it to them for a "little" extra).
Whaddaya think an Xbox with an 80 gig HDD LOADED with "sofware" is worth?
since its flash upgradeable u can run unsigned code since u can upload any bios u want
DraGoNe
Sep 4 2002, 12:11 AM
| QUOTE (P_1 @ Sep 3 2002, 10:38 PM) |
| since its flash upgradeable u can run unsigned code since u can upload any bios u want |
maybe...both enigmah and xtender said they could be flashed...but....i hate this...why did obscurity get so mixed in with the xbox mod scene? And i can't believe anyone would preorder this chip when they have zero information about it.
echto
Sep 4 2002, 12:57 AM
My guess is that it will have all the features of the current mods. I'm also guessing it will be something that snaps onto an existing chip on the xbox's mobo. There are similar mod utilizing this design for the ps2.
Courier5
Sep 4 2002, 01:48 AM
Danger - Danger - Danger
This is a rumor, what you are about to hear may nor be true, This is only a rumor
I read in another forum that it would be a spring loaded PCB that would lay over the LPC connecter and secured in place via 3 screws. (think of the heat sinks on some via northbridge sets, or some nvidia video cards) It would have a LPT connector for flash upgradeability.
My concern is the stability and if it could be jarred just enough to lose connection.
Only time will tell.
C5
Troll123
Sep 4 2002, 03:06 AM
I heard that rumor too, but there is still a wire that needs to be connected to ground out the onboard bios.
ZildjianKX
Sep 4 2002, 03:10 AM
Their Matrix modchip is NOT the Xodus. Notice how they even spelled OpenXBOX as "Openbox"... they are total rip-offs.
x-power
Sep 4 2002, 03:39 AM
I get it!!
The Xodus (matrix) Chip is the Bios Chips!! you have to remove your xbox Bios and replace it with the Xodus (matrix) Bios Chip........
That why it don't need any WIRES or Soldering.....
SirLuck
Sep 4 2002, 03:44 AM
The Exodus chip IS the Matrix. Please see
http://www.xodus-chip.com if you have doubts
chucklz
Sep 4 2002, 06:31 AM
| QUOTE (N00bvin @ Sep 3 2002, 09:55 PM) |
Look at the debug xbox... isn't it capable of playing any region? Does it change bios' when it does this? I don't think so... so maybe they plucked that out of the debug kit?
|
The BIOS in the debug box is different from the retail box to begin with. It already allows unsigned code to run, and is region independant.
There is no reason to doubt that this new mod will be all it says it will be.
N00bvin
Sep 4 2002, 07:14 AM
Listen, I'm ALL for this mod... but I think saying that'll take 5 minutes... well, is that a total of 5 minutes? You can't even take your Xbox apart that quick...
I told a lot of my friends to wait on this chip... because they are worthless at soldering, and I'M not go to do it for them, fuck it up, and buy them a new xbox...
I wouldn't complain about a clip, really... as long as it works... wtf do we care about stability? WTF are you doing with your Xbox that it might come off?
You wouldn't necessarily have solder a ground... if the screw is place at a strategic position...IT could act as a ground... maybe.
All I'm thinking... SINCE there are no details, it's NOT going to be as good or as easy as suspected. Why wouldn't you show JUST how EASY it is? Don't you think more people would preorder if they knew what they were getting?
DraGoNe
Sep 4 2002, 02:20 PM
| QUOTE (x-power @ Sep 4 2002, 02:39 AM) |
I get it!!
The Xodus (matrix) Chip is the Bios Chips!! you have to remove your xbox Bios and replace it with the Xodus (matrix) Bios Chip........
That why it don't need any WIRES or Soldering..... |
hmm...this would be cool...redefining PnP indeed.
limbfilter
Sep 4 2002, 02:35 PM
well, I'm getting a sample soon so I'll let you know.
BiMP
Sep 4 2002, 02:41 PM
My guess is its a bios clip and goes over ther bios or the LPC, I can't think of anything else.
XanTium
Sep 4 2002, 03:33 PM
As far as we know the modchip will be flash upgradable about the same way you can do with the openxbox.
We hope we'll get a sample soon , so we can confirm all this info.
Demon
Sep 4 2002, 04:08 PM
| QUOTE (N00bvin @ Sep 4 2002, 02:14 AM) |
Listen, I'm ALL for this mod... but I think saying that'll take 5 minutes... well, is that a total of 5 minutes? You can't even take your Xbox apart that quick...
|
I can have mine apart and down to the motherboard in under two minutes. Doesn't take long at all when you know what you're doing.
If it's a clip that can be done in around a minute, that makes 5 minutes putting it in.
<shrug>
I hope it's true.
:d:
Hajaz
Sep 4 2002, 06:01 PM
define "soon" Limbmaker
TakumiTRD
Sep 4 2002, 06:14 PM
ya, teh ad. i am sure they are taligna bout 5min it willt ake to install the chip to the MB.. not incuding takigna part the xbox.. thats, something based on your skills taking apart ur xbox.. hehe.. i myself like Demon can take apart and put back my xbox within 5mn Tops* hehe.. jsut shows howm any tiems i have reasemble and diasemble my xbox.. and if it is a clip on chip.. hey who knows.. ti prolly can take only 5mn.. but we will ahve to see.. there has been no proof or evidence as of yet.. btw.. you konw wat i find really Stupid? the fact that easyby had us wait from friday-monday.. for the big announcement .. jsut to say " we will be selling the no sodler modchip " LOL.. i will understand if they posted some pictures to go with the announcement.. and some more description of the chip.. but damn.. about 4 days, holdup.. for a dumb announcement.. lol.. that is pretty pathetic .. shietz.. .. well hopefully easybuy.. stays to there word.. and does release this so called Exodus a.k.a Matrix.. tiem will tell..
echto
Sep 4 2002, 06:39 PM
sample!! I'm jealous!
Chilly_Willy
Sep 4 2002, 10:37 PM
The Matrix will be inserted between a ribbon cable and the MB.
http://www.xboxhacker.net/cgi-bin/ikonboar...=18;t=5751;st=0
Hajaz
Sep 4 2002, 10:55 PM
hmmm
weird that they told u that eventho they wouldnt give that info in their announcement. maybe the guy u spoke to didnt know exactly what he could disclose and what not

any techies here who can comment on wether or not this connection method is possible?
N00bvin
Sep 5 2002, 08:01 AM
No WAY it's an IDE mod... I don't believe that for a second... if that's what they're saying then I'm worried again about the ad only mentioning import games... that would be possible, but not running unsigned code...
I really hope they prove me wrong...
Col.Havoc
Sep 5 2002, 11:44 AM
It would be stupid for them not to make the chip able to run unsigned code, but we will see.
Hajaz
Sep 5 2002, 12:33 PM
well, the xodus page does say it has all features that competing mods have , so that should include beeing able to run unsigned code
Specifications:
No Wires, No Solder, No Catch !
No technical experience needed at all.
Flash upgradeable (with programmer - included).
All bios features currently available on competing "mods" (can use any bios)
note the "can use any bios" part
Col.Havoc
Sep 5 2002, 05:32 PM
Yeah, I read that too Hajaz thats another reason I say it will run unsigned code.
Hajaz
Sep 5 2002, 05:38 PM
this chip could actually be a great solution for anyone who cant solder, the only problem i see atm is that its gonna cost heaps for europeans to have it imported. I mean 30$ shippingcosts ffs, and thats not even including duties.would prolly cost as much as a pcbioxx+paying someone 50€ to install it when all is said and done.
lets just hope some european resellers get them too.
0rbital
Sep 5 2002, 05:57 PM
Also notice on the website they say the chip will ship with no bios on it. You flash it yourself. So it will do anything the bios you flash it with can do.
limbfilter
Sep 5 2002, 10:56 PM
Wow...if it comes with no bios then that makes it 100% legal....
Col.Havoc
Sep 6 2002, 02:00 AM
| QUOTE (limbfilter @ Sep 5 2002, 09:56 PM) |
| Wow...if it comes with no bios then that makes it 100% legal.... |
Thats the only way that easybuy would ship them. really.
DaOne
Sep 6 2002, 09:25 AM
Hajaz
Sep 6 2002, 10:12 AM
yeah i seen that but thats a completely other mod and has really nothing to do with Xodus/matrix.
actually you should start your own thread if you want to promote your product
ferrell
Sep 6 2002, 01:31 PM
| QUOTE (Hajaz @ Sep 6 2002, 09:12 AM) |
yeah i seen that but thats a completely other mod and has really nothing to do with Xodus/matrix.
actually you should start your own thread if you want to promote your product |
Nothing but showing you how such a mod would be possible. Do you have any other theories, or are you just here to talk?
Hajaz
Sep 6 2002, 02:26 PM
well, if u'de have read the entire thread u wouldve seen that easybuy customer service said it would plug in the (ide?) port
"Satwizz : there a a place the you can pull the flat ribon cable an put it in the chip instead
Satwizz : then reconect a cable from the chio to the board"
so yes unless you want to call them liars i do think its a better theory.
tbh im not interested in a mod that youd have to clip/screw on the underside of the motherboard as ud still have to remove the mobo
Hajaz
Sep 6 2002, 03:02 PM
btw i dont mean to sugest that da0nes mod is a bad mod, i just mean that its an entirely different thing and should be in its own thread.
Col.Havoc
Sep 6 2002, 06:41 PM
To: sales@easybuy2000.com
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:48 AM
Subject: Matrix
Hi, I had pre-ordered pc-bioxx and now you have changed over to Matrix chip and I was just wondering what the features of this chip will be.
I would like to know if it will be able to run unsigned code.
REPLY
Hello,
If you mean home brew then yes it will be able to do that.
Regards,
Dave
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