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bagel5009
i got gigabytes latest 533mhz fsb board that sinxp1394, and i was wondering if you think i could get support for the new cpus or what would be the cheapest alternative? Thanks
Ace25
GO AWAY! Your in Hawaii.. WTF are you doing on the internet if your in Hawaii!!!!! GET OUT, SEE THE BEACH!! TAKE PICS!!! SHOW US!!! laugh.gif
bagel5009
my mom is looking at some flowers and landscaping for our beach house sleeping.gif
gainpresence
You can get support for newer CPUs (most likely) with a BIOS update.. but you won't be able to run at 800Mhz..
bagel5009
how come???!??!
nazis X.
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 09:38 PM)
how come???!??!

Because the FSB simply cannot push data that fast... it's not like it's upgradeable, like RAM. If you REALLY need to be bleeding edge, buy a new MoBo that moves that fast.
gainpresence
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 02:38 PM)
how come???!??!

For the same reason you can't BIOS update a P3 to a P4.
slamer
cant you just return it?
and say you want to swap
nazis X.
Well, wait, I forgot, since you're talented enough to transplant the XBox's CPU to a normal MoBo, you'd have enough knowlege to uprgrade the FSB, right? laugh.gif
bagel5009
is there any other way then buying a new mobo? like buying a new chipset(if i did i have no fucking clue how to put it on, cuz it looks like its soldered, correct me if im wrong) cuz i REALLY need this update, cuz when i oc mine it should be at like 1.0 ghz fsb at least
lilbigyoungin2000
I used to stay in Hawaii (Oahu, wahiawa) I miss it sad.gif
gainpresence
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 02:43 PM)
is there any other way then buying a new mobo? like buying a new chipset(if i did i have no fucking clue how to put it on, cuz it looks like its soldered, correct me if im wrong) cuz i REALLY need this update, cuz when i oc mine it should be at like 1.0 ghz fsb at least

Hey, if you can unsolder an Xbox CPU, this should be easy.
bagel5009
ya we are in ouahu rite now, in kailua by haliewa
bagel5009
QUOTE (gainpresence @ Apr 16 2003, 08:44 PM)
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 02:43 PM)
is there any other way then buying a new mobo? like buying a new chipset(if i did i have no fucking clue how to put it on, cuz it looks like its soldered, correct me if im wrong) cuz i REALLY need this update, cuz when i oc mine it should be at like 1.0 ghz fsb at least

Hey, if you can unsolder an Xbox CPU, this should be easy.

dood, s-t-f-u, my dad did anyways and thats the only thing he ever successfully soldered, im looking for help not flaming kthx
lilbigyoungin2000
I got a couple honeys that stay up that way. Sure as hell beats ALABAMA *banjo playing* wink.gif
gainpresence
QUOTE (lilbigyoungin2000 @ Apr 16 2003, 02:49 PM)
I got a couple honeys that stay up that way. Sure as hell beats ALABAMA *banjo playing* wink.gif

Hey, now!
lilbigyoungin2000
It does, Huntsville has got to be one of the slowest places I have ever lived, and dont get me started on the surprising abundance of MULLETS round here laugh.gif
bagel5009
fuck.... can we stay back to the subject plz.... i really need some help...
gainpresence
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 02:56 PM)
fuck.... can we stay back to the subject plz.... i really need some help...

We already answered you..

Anyway, Huntsville is pretty slow... but I haven't seen a mullet in at least 5 years.
bassic88
i heard albatron was supposed to releasea 1ghz fsb mobo.
lilbigyoungin2000
QUOTE (gainpresence @ Apr 16 2003, 09:58 PM)
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 02:56 PM)
fuck.... can we stay back to the subject plz.... i really need some help...

We already answered you..

Anyway, Huntsville is pretty slow... but I haven't seen a mullet in at least 5 years.

Well come on to H-sv and I guarntee, you'll see on within 3 minutes tops unsure.gif

Yo bagel5009 pretty much, you're just going to have to get a new MOBO, tjhe corp's not going to let you stop them from making that cash. I had a Tyan s1854 MOBO for the past year, and the highest cpu it supported was a P3 733mhz till I flashed it with a new bios and it supported up to 1ghz. just thought I tell that story sleeping.gif
thrashev
The only way you can run 800mhz fsb is to buy one of the new motherboards that will run 800mhz fsb.
gainpresence
QUOTE (lilbigyoungin2000 @ Apr 16 2003, 03:00 PM)
Well come on to H-sv and I guarntee, you'll see on within 3 minutes tops unsure.gif

I live in Huntsville..

Maybe you're in south huntsville tongue.gif
lilbigyoungin2000
QUOTE (gainpresence @ Apr 16 2003, 10:01 PM)
QUOTE (lilbigyoungin2000 @ Apr 16 2003, 03:00 PM)
Well come on to H-sv and I guarntee, you'll see on within 3 minutes tops  unsure.gif

I live in Huntsville..

Maybe you're in south huntsville tongue.gif

naw on university dr NW but yeah it's mullet heaven in South HSV, (Lacey)
DaGamePimp
bagel ,
you just need to slow down on the OC'ing bud , I think you are OC happy ohmy.gif .
Just buy the right gear since what you are asking cannot be done with what you have - sorry .
--DGP--
Dark Schneider

OC'ing is for people that understand the risks, and know what they are doing.
Back away from the keyboard, and no one will get hurt.

The motherboard chipsets are not removable as such, and are not replaceable with another. The fact that the layered board itself does not scare you in itself is troubling.

You would easily find all the information that you are looing for by going to the actual website.

The answer is NO.
bagel5009
QUOTE (Dark Schneider @ Apr 17 2003, 12:21 AM)

OC'ing is for people that understand the risks, and know what they are doing.
Back away from the keyboard, and no one will get hurt.

The motherboard chipsets are not removable as such, and are not replaceable with another. The fact that the layered board itself does not scare you in itself is troubling.

You would easily find all the information that you are looing for by going to the actual website.

The answer is NO.

i know what im doing - especially when it comes to ocing, how much do you think i could sell my sinxp1394 on ebay and say it was never used and brand new, cuz i got all the packaging still and tape works great, i got it at FRYS for 220 3 weeks ago, and pricematch wouldnt be much less... then i could basicly spend 20 extra bucks for the new mobo , cuz this is an important upgrade especially the 800mhz fsb, the updates dont happen that often wink.gif
jasonmvt
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 10:30 PM)

i know what im doing - especially when it comes to ocing

what uhh.gif Weren't you asking about it like a month or two ago? You have become an expert in that time? Anyway, my vote goes to no, it can't be done the way you are suggesting.
bagel5009
i know i cant bios update by know, i just trying to figure out how much i could sell my sinxp1394 for on ebay, and say its brand new
Dark Schneider
QUOTE (jasonmvt @ Apr 16 2003, 10:46 PM)
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 10:30 PM)

i know what im doing - especially when it comes to ocing

what uhh.gif Weren't you asking about it like a month or two ago? You have become an expert in that time? Anyway, my vote goes to no, it can't be done the way you are suggesting.


Same guy that thought because he took out his P3 733 out of the Xbox and into a PC that it would now be faster when he put it back in the Xbox...cause he OC'd it...yeh baby!
Mage
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 07:30 PM)
i know what im doing - especially when it comes to ocing,

Bagel, didn't I school you and cheerio on how to OC p4s weeks ago? jester.gif
Listen up son, well I know you're going to ignore ALL of us, like you always do, and just bitch and spam the forum over and over again.
I doubt YOU'LL see much of a gain with the new fsb.
Do you even have a p4 that supports it? A little p4 2.0Ghz chip don't support the 800Mhz FSB ya know.
Dark Schneider
sinxp1394=$167 and falling like the rock it is. laugh.gif
pricewatch.com
SSSSSmokey
Have you tried looking on EBAY? Usually that is a good indicator of how much things sell for on Ebay. rolleyes.gif
jasonmvt
it's like when people HAVE to get a board with 8X AGP support.
Dark Schneider
QUOTE (jasonmvt @ Apr 16 2003, 10:58 PM)
it's like when people HAVE to get a board with 8X AGP support.


LOL yeh that was a gimmick and a half.

You can have your Intel motherboards, I'll be just fine with my half the cost at the same speed AMD laugh.gif
The AMD 400mhz bus will be the shit =)
nazis X.
QUOTE (jasonmvt @ Apr 17 2003, 03:58 AM)
it's like when people HAVE to get a board with 8X AGP support.

No shit. The two or three video cards that have 8x AGP support don't even push that much more power, according to various benchmarks (I'll find 'em and link 'em later).
Again, if you don't have a wad of cash, it's pointless to try and stay bleeding edge. Weren't you bitching about being too laz.... I mean, not being able to find work a couple weeks ago, Bagel? laugh.gif
jasonmvt
QUOTE (nazis X. @ Apr 16 2003, 11:02 PM)
QUOTE (jasonmvt @ Apr 17 2003, 03:58 AM)
it's like when people HAVE to get a board with 8X AGP support.

No shit. The two or three video cards that have 8x AGP support don't even push that much more power, according to various benchmarks (I'll find 'em and link 'em later).
Again, if you don't have a wad of cash, it's pointless to try and stay bleeding edge. Weren't you bitching about being too laz.... I mean, not being able to find work a couple weeks ago, Bagel? laugh.gif

actually I think it goes even deeper than the graphics cards themselves. The numbers the 8X AGP camp sited are not realistically possible because of limitations on the other components in the mobo chain.
bagel5009
omfg stop with this flaming and stfu about the xbox, i know a fucking spent 2 hours of wasting my time, i hate these forums cuz you always get flamed and never get shit answered grr.gif
Mage
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 08:17 PM)
omfg stop with this flaming and stfu about the xbox, i know a fucking spent 2 hours of wasting my time, i hate these forums cuz you always get flamed and never get shit answered grr.gif

We answered your questions.
800FSB is useless without a p4 that supports it, read my previous post.
Maybe if you listened to people who respond once in awhile, we wouldn't flame you.
Also if you didn't makeup shit we wouldn't flame you.
jasonmvt
QUOTE (Mage @ Apr 16 2003, 11:18 PM)
Maybe if you listened to people who respond once in awhile, we wouldn't flame you.
Also if you didn't makeup shit we wouldn't flame you.

exactly.
bagel5009
QUOTE (Mage @ Apr 17 2003, 02:56 AM)
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 07:30 PM)
i know what im doing - especially when it comes to ocing,

Bagel, didn't I school you and cheerio on how to OC p4s weeks ago? jester.gif
Listen up son, well I know you're going to ignore ALL of us, like you always do, and just bitch and spam the forum over and over again.
I doubt YOU'LL see much of a gain with the new fsb.
Do you even have a p4 that supports it? A little p4 2.0Ghz chip don't support the 800Mhz FSB ya know.

Hey DUMB FUCK! ITS A P4 2.4GHZ, AND W/ THE NEW CHIPSET IT SUPPORTS HT AND 800MHZ FSB
bagel5009
QUOTE (Mage @ Apr 17 2003, 03:18 AM)
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 08:17 PM)
omfg stop with this flaming and stfu about the xbox, i know a fucking spent 2 hours of wasting my time, i hate these forums cuz you always get flamed and never get shit answered grr.gif

We answered your questions.
800FSB is useless without a p4 that supports it, read my previous post.
Maybe if you listened to people who respond once in awhile, we wouldn't flame you.
Also if you didn't makeup shit we wouldn't flame you.

COCK FACE, IM NOT MAKING UP ANY SHIT, AND THE ONLY POSTS THAT YOU REGARD ON ME ARE ALL FLAMES, NOTHING ELSE BUT FLAMES
gainpresence
Bagel, if you don't want our opinions and facts, then don't ask for them.
bagel5009
ill take opinions and facts, but not flames rolleyes.gif
gainpresence
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 09:40 PM)
ill take opinions and facts, but not flames rolleyes.gif

You can dish out flames, but expect to not receive them?
Mage
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 08:32 PM)
Hey DUMB FUCK! ITS A P4 2.4GHZ, AND W/ THE NEW CHIPSET IT SUPPORTS HT AND 800MHZ FSB

The only p4 with HT at 2.4 Ghz is a P4 XEON, and you don't have one.
For consumer p4s, only >3Ghz has HT.

The chipset isn't magic, it cannot upgrade the cpu for you. jester.gif
Oh, and btw, what I just said isn't a flame, it is facts, get that straight.
I doubt I'm the "dumb fuck" here son.
Correction: The 800Mhz FSB chips all have HT.
jasonmvt
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 11:33 PM)
COCK FACE, IM NOT MAKING UP ANY SHIT, AND THE ONLY POSTS THAT YOU REGARD ON ME ARE ALL FLAMES, NOTHING ELSE BUT FLAMES

hah, he called you 'COCK FACE'... oh the shame. However will you show your face in public again? laugh.gif
nazis X.
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 17 2003, 04:33 AM)
QUOTE (Mage @ Apr 17 2003, 03:18 AM)
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 08:17 PM)
omfg stop with this flaming and stfu about the xbox, i know a fucking spent 2 hours of wasting my time, i hate these forums cuz you always get flamed and never get shit answered grr.gif

We answered your questions.
800FSB is useless without a p4 that supports it, read my previous post.
Maybe if you listened to people who respond once in awhile, we wouldn't flame you.
Also if you didn't makeup shit we wouldn't flame you.

COCK FACE, IM NOT MAKING UP ANY SHIT, AND THE ONLY POSTS THAT YOU REGARD ON ME ARE ALL FLAMES, NOTHING ELSE BUT FLAMES

Really? Check here. If that ain't bullshit, I'm not sure what is. biggrin.gif
bagel5009
QUOTE (Mage @ Apr 17 2003, 03:44 AM)
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 08:32 PM)
Hey DUMB FUCK! ITS A P4 2.4GHZ, AND W/ THE NEW CHIPSET IT SUPPORTS HT AND 800MHZ FSB

The only p4 with HT at 2.4 Ghz is a P4 XEON, and you don't have one.
For consumer p4s, only >3Ghz has HT.

The chipset isn't magic, it cannot upgrade the cpu for you. jester.gif
Oh, and btw, what I just said isn't a flame, it is facts, get that straight.
I doubt I'm the "dumb fuck" here son.
Correction: The 800Mhz FSB chips all have HT.

i was just reading the FUCKIN official information on the new i875P chipset and it says it supports HT for 2.4ghz and above and makes supports for 800mhz fsb
nazis X.
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 17 2003, 04:50 AM)
QUOTE (Mage @ Apr 17 2003, 03:44 AM)
QUOTE (bagel5009 @ Apr 16 2003, 08:32 PM)
Hey DUMB FUCK! ITS A P4 2.4GHZ, AND W/ THE NEW CHIPSET IT SUPPORTS HT AND 800MHZ FSB

The only p4 with HT at 2.4 Ghz is a P4 XEON, and you don't have one.
For consumer p4s, only >3Ghz has HT.

The chipset isn't magic, it cannot upgrade the cpu for you. jester.gif
Oh, and btw, what I just said isn't a flame, it is facts, get that straight.
I doubt I'm the "dumb fuck" here son.
Correction: The 800Mhz FSB chips all have HT.

i was just reading the FUCKIN official information on the new i875P chipset and it says it supports HT for 2.4ghz and above and makes supports for 800mhz fsb

"Supports" means it works. Doesn't mean it actually uses the full 800MHz the FSB pushes.
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