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XanTium

Team Xecuter About Xbox 360 -- Posted by XanTium on November 17 00:06 EST
Team Xecuter(info) posted a news item about the Xbox 360, they also refer to Andatech's Xbox 360 disassembly posted earlier.
From teamxecuter.com:
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Well, the time is nearly upon us. Now that the 360 is out there in the wild the scene is about to kick start into full gear !
We have a few 360's to play with plus many of our freinds in the scene are taking the 360 to bits to see what fun stuff there is to feast on.
Don't expect anything soon, but be assured anything is possible.
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News-Source: http://www.teamxecuter.com

TheHiddenHero
I'm definatly popping open my 360 the day I get it. I'm planning on trying all I can to contribute to the modding of the 360.
ibemonty2000
Here's to hoping that Team Xecuter and the other mod teams can find an exploit early on. beerchug.gif

-Monty
cyberg4
QUOTE(ibemonty2000 @ Nov 17 2005, 12:19 AM)
Here's to hoping that Team Xecuter and the other mod teams can find an exploit early on. beerchug.gif

-Monty
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heres to hoping for a mod before release (well nov 22) beerchug.gif
PS I am pretty confident this will NOT happen so don't flame me, but just a thought biggrin.gif
colt45joe
QUOTE(cyberg4 @ Nov 17 2005, 07:39 AM)
heres to hoping for a mod before release (well nov 22) beerchug.gif
PS I am pretty confident this will NOT happen so don't flame me, but just a thought biggrin.gif
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hehe, that'd be funny, ms spending so much time on security, than BAM just like that: it be cracked.

only in our dreams tho blink.gif
PCBUILDERCHRIS
lol yeah

beerchug.gif
oh and heres to making first contact before someone exploits 360

rocarmy4life
lol well, if a mod chip is made first, i will chip it... but i can assure you that team xecuter a long with any other chip makers will try to keep it under wraps if they find a softmod... a wise move for them because they cant bank millions of dollars if there is a free way to mod the 360...

my love is for the softmod makers...

my money is, unfortunately, for chip makers...
TeRm
Spoken like a ture poet rocarmy4life. Sadly thats the truth. I mean what can you get from a chip that you cant from a soft mod?
ZildjianKX
QUOTE(TeRm @ Nov 17 2005, 12:48 AM)
Spoken like a ture poet rocarmy4life. Sadly thats the truth. I mean what can you get from a chip that you cant from a soft mod?
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Easily switching it on and off, that's about it. And not having to worry about the softmod being "patched."
mlapaglia
oh so true. and if anything goes wrong with the mod all you have to do is remove the chip.
1nick9
lol so xecuter never got a dev kit, even after i heard a RUMOUR (want to make that clear, that i its a rumour and is more than likely bs) that they had offered 50k us for a kit heheh gotta lov that, personaly i dont think xecuter will b 1st to crack it, not without gettin some sources, like they did buyin the source codes for the xbox bios hehe. but hey good luck to all that try, the faster pplz work on it, the faster we shell hav it cracked biggrin.gif
crewx
QUOTE(TeRm @ Nov 17 2005, 03:48 AM)
Spoken like a ture poet rocarmy4life. Sadly thats the truth. I mean what can you get from a chip that you cant from a soft mod?
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there is a lot you can do actually

plus there was no softmod before a hard mod - you wouldnt have seen one. fact.

i like softmods - but they dont compare imho

however at least you all get a choice smile.gif
crewx
QUOTE(1nick9 @ Nov 17 2005, 09:08 AM)
lol so xecuter never got a dev kit, even after i heard a RUMOUR (want to make that clear, that i its a rumour and is more than likely bs) that they had offered 50k us for a kit heheh gotta lov that, personaly i dont think xecuter will b 1st to crack it, not without gettin some sources, like they did buyin the source codes for the xbox bios hehe. but hey good luck to all that try, the faster pplz work on it, the faster we shell hav it cracked biggrin.gif
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this post is so completely full fo shit wink.gif

the dev kits were being sold for $3k.

and we got the source codes for xbox1 FREE - about a year before anyone else got them

plus xecuter was the first to crack xbox1 - none of the other teams did it without using our methods / staff members. you need to gen up on your console hacking history buddy before you start giggling to yourself wink.gif
twistedsymphony
QUOTE(Xecuter @ Nov 17 2005, 09:16 AM)
this post is so completely full fo shit wink.gif

the dev kits were being sold for $3k.

and we got the source codes for xbox1 FREE - about a year before anyone else got them

plus xecuter was the first to crack xbox1 - none of the other teams did it without using our methods / staff members. you need to gen up on your console hacking history buddy before you start giggling to yourself wink.gif
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I seem to remember Bunnie being the first to crack the Xbox...
I also seem to remember homebrew 29 wire modchips being the first available hacks...
Past that I never remember Xecuter releasing a chip until Gen 3a.... Which was what? the Xecuter 1.0...

Unless their name changed at some point and Bunnie is a member of the team; I refer you to my history book: http://www.xbox-scene.com/modchips.php

1nick9
like i said rumour tongue.gif
and u guys wont first, bunnie, unless hes a member of ur team (which im sure hes not)
prehaps u guys worked out the lpc boot but i got a feelin it was some1 else, like i said not sure on that.

and unless u guys where open and not a group or that back in 29wire days, that was done over xboxhacks
1nick9
and im sorry i giggly to myself alot, hehe bit like a lil skool girl hehh, dont do drugs, stay in skool, stay cool biggrin.gif

unless u wanna end up laughin at every 2nd word for no reason biggrin.gif

hehehhe
Avenger 2.0
No modchip maker had cracked the Xbox and none will crack the Xbox 360.
1nick9
lol oh shit hehe and i ment 5k us my bad, half asleep
craigncheri
Bunnie made hacking the xbox possible, but he wasn't the first to create a modded bios for the xbox.

Back in the early days there were 2 teams that released the first hacks for the xbox, even before the homebrew 29 wire chips. the 2 teams were xecutor and enigmah. Both had very similar installs. the xecutor chip was a complete replacment bios, the enigmah tried to patch the original xbox bios (didn't work out that well).

shortly after the release of xeuctor's first chip people realized it was just a replacment bios, and how to create the homebrew 29 wire mods.
Havok
I say team Xecuter should find a way to mod it... Show video and proof that it works and then never release anything... muHAHAHA..

That will teach you whippersnappers to respect your elders.

It does not matter who is first or last.. I respect xecuter for supplying a service.

KrK
QUOTE(craigncheri @ Nov 17 2005, 04:34 PM)
Bunnie made hacking the xbox possible, but he wasn't the first to create a modded bios for the xbox.

Back in the early days there were 2 teams that released the first hacks for the xbox, even before the homebrew 29 wire chips. the 2 teams were xecutor and enigmah. Both had very similar installs. the xecutor chip was a complete replacment bios, the enigmah tried to patch the original xbox bios (didn't work out that well).
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but Xecuter were not actually one of the first teams to come up with a chip. Bunnie was the man behind the concept, but Xtender (31 wire) were the first to come out with a modchip. They were followed by Neo-X (31 wire, never publicly released) a few days later, then Enigmah (29 wire). A short while later Xecuter came out with the Xecuter 1.0, which was the first mod to utilise the LPC rather than the previous method requiring 29/31 wire installs.

-KrK
ocon
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krawhitham
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Nov 17 2005, 03:29 PM)
I seem to remember Bunnie being the first to crack the Xbox...
I also seem to remember homebrew 29 wire modchips being the first available hacks...
Past that I never remember Xecuter releasing a chip until Gen 3a.... Which was what? the Xecuter 1.0...

Unless their name changed at some point and Bunnie is a member of the team; I refer you to my history book: http://www.xbox-scene.com/modchips.php
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owned

I remember burning my own chips and doing the 32 wire mods before I even heard of Xecuter

later I cut all the 27c40 chips out and just reflashed the tsop
Arakon
owned yourself... guess where the bios for the homebrew eprom mods came from.
yep.. dumped off the xtender modchip.
neb15
this wont happen for a while. whoever gets the first chip / soft mod out will be rich!!
rocarmy4life
QUOTE(Havok @ Nov 17 2005, 05:59 PM)
I respect xecuter for supplying a service.
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respect them for what?
they arent doing this for your respect...they are doing this for your money...
in no way am i trashing xecuter, or trying to take away from their business, i just don't see why people would give them "respect" or place them (or any chip maker) on a pedestal when they care more about whats in your wallet than what you think or who u respect...

i wonder how much of a percentage decrease in sales they saw when the softmod was released... i also wonder how much those chip makers would have paid to keep the softmod quiet... im guessing you could get "at least" 50k to keep your mouth shut about a working softmod for 360...hell, triple that since its so early with no chips out yet...

make the f'in chip...

but just hope a softmod doesnt come out before the chips do...
rocarmy4life
QUOTE(neb15 @ Nov 17 2005, 09:11 PM)
this wont happen for a while. whoever gets the first chip / soft mod out will be rich!!
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---ehh what?

softmods are free bro... meaning you dont need any hardware (chips)

the person who (if any) release the softmod will be a god among the xbox scene, but not rich... UNLESS he remained anonymous and sold his soul (gag) to the chip makers to keep quiet about the softmod... THEN and ONLY THEN will he be "rich" but a few grand is hardly rich...

on the other hand, yes, the day a chip is released, that chip maker will bank big time...
Arakon
some facts to consider.. if your fuck up a softmod, the 360 is dead, since unlike the old box, you can't just pop a 10$ chip in to fix it.
MS said the bios may be flashable over live.. unless you physically lift the WE pin on the tsop, you can't prevent that, and even then it may require updates to work any more on live.. easily killing off whatever exploit allowed the softmod.
lantus
QUOTE(Xecuter @ Nov 17 2005, 02:16 PM)

and we got the source codes for xbox1 FREE - about a year before anyone else got them

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haha this made me laugh, do you really believe your own lies?

1nick9
hehhe i must say i did too heheheh
rocarmy4life
QUOTE(Arakon @ Nov 17 2005, 11:39 PM)
some facts to consider.. if your fuck up a softmod, the 360 is dead, since unlike the old box, you can't just pop a 10$ chip in to fix it.
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--ehh what?

how can u fuck up a softmod?
you cant...at least i never seen it happen...and im not talking about rewriting the tsop...

if you are booting the bios through a patched xbe, then you CANT fuck up...
you never overwrite any bios, you never delete anything from your hdd, no solder, no opening the box...

simply load the files from a memory card, press a few buttons on your controller and youre done...

i will take THAT over ANY CHIP, ANY DAY

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lol...after reading your post, i see you are referring to softmodding the 360...
and how do u know you cant fix it? nothing has been done yet...
but with so many ways to connect that son of a bitch to your computer, im quite sure the softmod will make an appearance shortly after the chips are distributed... install chip, dig around in the box, find its security, crack it, release a softmod, become a king on X-S...
SICKdimension
QUOTE(Xecuter @ Nov 17 2005, 07:16 AM)
xecuter was the first to crack xbox1
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Ouch. This lie hurt my eyes to read!
krayzie
funny how this topic turned into some argue thread about who cracked the xbox 1 first. Do we really care about that? I just want to see the 360 cracked asap no mather who does it.

And about softmods. It's very unlikely an exploit will be found on a short base let alone ever.
A hardware mod is much more likely to be found.

If anyone ever finds an exploit there are offcourse are ways to make profits of it. That all depends of the founder(s) and their love for the scene. Remember the xbox-linux crew (founders of the gamesave, fonts and audio flaws) never intended to release the exploits unless they could get ms to sign a copy of their linux for them. (which offcourse never happened....)
TGD
QUOTE(1nick9 @ Nov 18 2005, 02:06 AM)
hehhe i must say i did too heheheh
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Bro..can you stop with the silly "hehehe's"? Its anoying and your starting to sound really stupid.
1nick9
hehe im sorry, its just alot of this stuff makes me laugh and i type as i think it. hell i dont really care if i sound stupid, prehaps i am, i dont really giv a shit, and i really think we should get back on top and just stop spamming, i no i am now but i will stop now.

cheers beerchug.gif
heheheheh
Arakon
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how can u fuck up a softmod?
you cant...at least i never seen it happen...and im not talking about rewriting the tsop...


the xbox 1 softmod can fuck up in plenty of ways. wrong files copied to the wrong folders, replacing files with wrong versions, bad bios file, etc.. I've seen countless "my softmodded box says error 21, help!!11" postings in my time.
krayzie
QUOTE(Arakon @ Nov 18 2005, 02:19 PM)
the xbox 1 softmod can fuck up in plenty of ways. wrong files copied to the wrong folders, replacing files with wrong versions, bad bios file, etc.. I've seen countless "my softmodded box says error 21, help!!11" postings in my time.
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[offtopic] While offcourse wrong setups can cause file errors like 13,16 or 21 (user errors) a softmod is not capable of destroying the xbox by itself. I'm sure harmodded xboxes encounter the same amount of these errors. thinking this is restricted to softmods only is wrong. The only difference might be the easyness of recovering from that (which shouldn't be hard at all if you know what you're doing).[/offtopic]
deadparrot
QUOTE(Arakon @ Nov 17 2005, 09:39 PM)
MS said the bios may be flashable over live..
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Hope the XeDK has a Live environment emulator! TSOP flashing via network!

Well, it IS possible.
rocarmy4life
QUOTE(Arakon @ Nov 18 2005, 02:19 PM)
the xbox 1 softmod can fuck up in plenty of ways. wrong files copied to the wrong folders, replacing files with wrong versions, bad bios file, etc.. I've seen countless "my softmodded box says error 21, help!!11" postings in my time.
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dude, you have a backup in your "E" drive...
pop in splinter cell, run the linux save, boot the softmod installer, and restore your MS backup... problem solved... go ahead and wipe out your entire hard drive... big deal... disconnect the fucker for all i care... you will STILL be able to boot your original copy of splinter cell...

so in other words, softmodding an xbox is retard proof...

which brings us back to the topic at hand: if you fuck up on a softmod, just do it again... or restore your original C drive... so if they arent smart enuff to mod their box by pressing a few buttons, who the hell is gunna expect them to solder 9 wires to TINY traces on an expensive motherboard? softmod STILL easier than pogopins...nuff said...

QUOTE(Xecuter @ Nov 17 2005, 03:14 PM)
Don't expect anything soon, but be assured anything is possible.

no shit... wait till someone else (not in it for profit) finds a crack, then you can make hardware, inflate the retail price by 500%, and make money off of someone elses work...

at least make the chips cheaper because we know they are not that expensive to manufacture... thats almost as bad as charging $50 -$60 for a $0.10 disk we call a game... the only difference is, they put in the hard work to make the game... you just put someone elses code on a chip...
LateraLex
Do you blame them for doing it?
janrocks
I suppose the "inflate the price 500%" all depends on wher the chips are sourced..do team xecuter buy them off the shelf or does it need the development.. do the layouts...make the masks..print the chips..etc..etc..etc..

As with everything manufactured it's cheaper to make in huge quantities..and I don't think the modchip market runs into the hundreds of millions of units, unlike the ipod chips etc...

Now I may be wrong but I think team xecuter do a good job (after all it comes down to cash in the end with everything in this world) and have given us good service...at a price, but hey..that's business... beerchug.gif
AlexNapo
Hey... Whoever will be the first team to crack the box, it'll catched by the others in no time and the the market price will adjust accordingly.

In my opinion the term "patience" is the rule of gold.
pug_ster
Looking at Anandtech's article about the xbox360's mobo, it doesn't have a good picture of the bottom of the mobo. I don't think it will be as easy to make a modchip for a xbox360 as the original xbox like having a lpc port. It will probably take a 15+ wires like a ps2 or something like that.

There's a 16MB flash rom chip on the motherboard itself here:

I wouldn't be surprised that someone figures out that this might be the bios or something that you can exploit.
deadparrot
Yes, it may be easy to put a replacement chip in, that you can load a BIOS onto, but you have to dump and decrypt the original one before you can hack it to do what you want. That's what takes the time.

It should be relatively simple to install a piggy back chip to override the original one (you've just got to tap into the correct traces), but you need something to put on it in the first place.
rocarmy4life
QUOTE(LateraLex @ Nov 18 2005, 07:36 PM)
Do you blame them for doing it?
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QUOTE(rocarmy4life @ Nov 17 2005, 09:01 AM)
a wise move for them because they cant bank millions of dollars if there is a free way to mod the 360...

my love is for the softmod makers...

my money is, unfortunately, for chip makers...
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psxpirate1
We got lucky the last round for the softmods and buffer overflow. Not going to happen this time around. I can guarantee you the next mod will have to be some form of hardware (modchip) as the xbox 360 security has been ramped up significantly over the 1st generation. Can no longer execute code from the ram etc.
aepuppetmaster
QUOTE(pug_ster @ Nov 18 2005, 03:48 PM)
Looking at Anandtech's article about the xbox360's mobo, it doesn't have a good picture of the bottom of the mobo.  I don't think it will be as easy to make a modchip for a xbox360 as the original xbox like having a lpc port.  It will probably take a 15+ wires
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i hope not...ps2's are, imho, rediculously for a amature/novice like myself to install. I did my xbox no problem (x3 ce), lpc and 3 wires bam. but with things like ps2 you not only have to solder on the tinyest of leeds but you also have to worry about things like ground bounce and interference. I really hope Team xecuter will come out with a mod, and to that point and easy one.
1nick9
well all i can say is, if ya cant mod a ps2, dont go playin wiht ur new $400us 360 tongue.gif. as for me, day i get it, play for a lil, hten off comes the cover biggrin.gif

cheers beerchug.gif
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