zilli0n
Jan 23 2006, 11:34 AM
InterestedHacker
Jan 23 2006, 03:48 PM
QUOTE(zilli0n @ Jan 23 2006, 12:05 PM)

As far as the security chip... I have found a similarity between the mem card and wireless adapter in the image below.
LMFAO!! You spotted the Crystal! It's not a security chip.... It's part of the clock generator.
EDIT: A couple of interesting points for discussion...
1) That top left chip on the 360 photo is apparently (I can't tell 100% from your photo) an EEPROM. That would be interesting to read...
2) The memory chip itself, has anyone thought about stacking, or somehow adding a sub PCB for extra RAM.
EDIT: Actually, it might not be the clock crystal, but the crystal for the 2.4Ghz wireless signal, but it's nothing to do with security and it is a crystal!
zilli0n
Jan 23 2006, 04:03 PM
As it can appear that it is what I was impling... it wasn't. Similar components on each chipset is all I was pointing out... not knowing what either one of them are used for is the reason I posted it above, mcfly.
As far as adding another chip, I am pretty sure you are able to do so on the back of the PCB, has anyone been successful yet ? no.
InterestedHacker
Jan 23 2006, 04:07 PM
QUOTE
As it can appear that it is what I was impling... it wasn't. Similar components on each chipset is all I was pointing out... not knowing what either one of them are used for is the reason I posted it above, mcfly.
As far as adding another chip, I am pretty sure you are able to do so on the back of the PCB, has anyone been successful yet ? no.
That's OK, we all learn something every day =D Good to point things.
Schismatized
Jan 25 2006, 01:12 AM
please dont flame me but what exactly have we established so far. i started reading but it seemed like ppl were just talking and not trying anything so yeah.. what have you guys accomplished so far?
Angerwound
Jan 25 2006, 03:40 AM
www.360GameSaves.com will show that much has been accomplished here.
Greenvalor7
Jan 25 2006, 04:50 AM
I have a quick question if someone would be kind enough to help. If I was to FTP my Fable gamesave from my Modded Xbox to my PC could I then transfer that save to my modded 360 Memory Card using Xplorer360 and play Fable using that transfered save on my 360 Memory Card?
nateh90
Jan 25 2006, 05:23 AM
QUOTE(Greenvalor7 @ Jan 25 2006, 04:21 AM)

I have a quick question if someone would be kind enough to help. If I was to FTP my Fable gamesave from my Modded Xbox to my PC could I then transfer that save to my modded 360 Memory Card using Xplorer360 and play Fable using that transfered save on my 360 Memory Card?

Yes, In fact im pretty sure that you wouldnt even need the program to do that, just FATX filesystem support. Correct me if i am wrong though, because i am not that sure. Thanks - Nate
Enixile
Jan 26 2006, 03:57 AM
Sorry if I missed any comments that may regard to this, but has anyone tried connecting the memory unit to the 360 using USB isntead of the normal connection? I would assume that this would be the first step to determine whether a USB flash drive is ever going to be possible. I read some posts somewhere before about how MS may have had a USB to MU converter for the kiosks, but I'm not sure if that was verified.
loser
Jan 26 2006, 05:39 AM
i tried plugging my modded x360 memcard into the usb connection on the x360.
the x360 didnt automatically find my profiles etc like it doesnt when you plug in the memcard normally.
i didnt not want to go further into accessing the memcard at this stage as i feared that it may have been reformatted into a normal fat filesystem as would be used by normal flash cards, ipods, etc.
(at this stage i had not backed up my memcard and didnt want to lose all my saves!

)
even when backing it up in windows using something like winhex, there is still the problem of not being able to back up that extra 2meg...
willgonz
Jan 27 2006, 02:14 AM
While looking at the wiring and the resisters and the plug on the memory unit itself. I don't think it would be that hard to make a PCB with some Surface Mount resisters. With this you could make a small adaptor that you could plug to your memory card and then into a USB port. I think you could get by with soldering on some standard resisters. If someone did a template and made a PDF. You could easily make it with a Radio Shack PC Board Kit item number 276-1576. I have seen some folks make the etching's with a print out from a laser printer.
What do you guys think?
JoHnnyTK36
Jan 27 2006, 04:57 AM
look forward to a memory card to usb adapter pretty soon. It will not require any modding to the memoy unit itself/
Check out www.360gamesaves.com for updates when they come.
Greenvalor7
Jan 29 2006, 04:35 AM
I by
no means mean to nag/witch and I will be patient as needed because I understand these things take time and I appreciate the program being made public at all
I was just wondering if someone had an idea of when Xplorer360 would be releaased on 360gamesaves.com? Also if any testers are needed I would sooo be game!
Druggedpolak
Jan 31 2006, 02:27 AM
so im guessing this will be used soon or already is used for arcade game piracy?
man the public knows how to bring any company to their knees lol
nateh90
Jan 31 2006, 05:03 AM
QUOTE(Druggedpolak @ Jan 31 2006, 01:58 AM)

so im guessing this will be used soon or already is used for arcade game piracy?
man the public knows how to bring any company to their knees lol

No, unless people have figured out how to crack the encryption, if the arcade game was transfered it would only be the trial version, the full version is signed to a specific user.
Angerwound
Jan 31 2006, 02:57 PM
QUOTE(nateh90 @ Jan 30 2006, 09:34 PM)

No, unless people have figured out how to crack the encryption, if the arcade game was transfered it would only be the trial version, the full version is signed to a specific user.
I dont support the piracy of arcade content, however your right and wrong. They are tied to profiles but can be 'untied'
nateh90
Jan 31 2006, 05:36 PM
QUOTE(Angerwound @ Jan 31 2006, 02:28 PM)

I dont support the piracy of arcade content, however your right and wrong. They are tied to profiles but can be 'untied'

Hmm I am very interested in this concept and I would be willing to help in the effort to break/manipulate the "ties", as long as there was no piracy of DLC or XBLA games, only sharing gamesaves. Thanks - Nate
rusty stucco
Jan 31 2006, 11:17 PM
Angerwound, I was reading the 360saves site and noticed that achievments wont be achievable through gamesaves. But for veteran on single player couldn't someone go to the last save on the last checkpoint of the last level of each mission. Then have someone else get that save and have him beat that last part. Would that not entitle the reciever of the gamesave a beaten mission? Or does the actual game keep track of each check point and load screen so you would need to go back and beat those? Just wondering about all that. Thank you!
nateh90
Feb 1 2006, 01:09 AM
Well, this is just a guess but since the saves arent "tied" to a certain profile, earning an acheivement with the downloaded gamesave would not earn the acheivement for the host player's profile. Just a guess though, I would check with angerwound, this is just what i have implied based on my reasearch of the gamesaves. - Nate
rusty stucco
Feb 1 2006, 01:26 AM
What I was trying to say is theoretically you are still earning the Achievment. You are going to beat that last part of the mission and should unlock the achievment for beating that mission. You arent just getting the save for that last checkpoint where it says next mission but one where you still have to fight. For example go all the way through D-day and stop before you go up to silo. Then give that game save for offer on website and have people try it out and finish the mission then see if they get rewarded the Achievment.
nateh90
Feb 1 2006, 02:10 AM
QUOTE(rusty stucco @ Feb 1 2006, 12:57 AM)

What I was trying to say is theoretically you are still earning the Achievment. You are going to beat that last part of the mission and should unlock the achievment for beating that mission. You arent just getting the save for that last checkpoint where it says next mission but one where you still have to fight. For example go all the way through D-day and stop before you go up to silo. Then give that game save for offer on website and have people try it out and finish the mission then see if they get rewarded the Achievment.
Well, if you were rewarded the acheivement for doing that, that would be unfair to those who earned the acheivement by beating the entire mission. This would defeat the purpose of the acheivement and gamerscore system, because the playing field would no longer be level. - Nate
Drunkn_Munky
Feb 1 2006, 04:28 PM
What he means is, previously scored achievements won't be transferred as they are tied to the profile. Yes you could save it just on the last level, but what's the point? The only time I ever use game saves is if I'm really stuck or I can't be bothered to unlock all the extras. If you only want the game for the achievements, you don't deserve an Xbox 360 or any other console.
willgonz
Feb 1 2006, 06:41 PM
Well, for those of you who don't wish to take apart your memory card or don't have the skills to mod yours. I have created an adaptor that will allow you to plug your memory card into a USB slot. They won’t be more than $20 and I'm not making profit, just trying to help out. It is on a printed circuit board and is similar to the adaptor for XBOX 1 that allows you to use thumb drives.
PM me if your interested.
willgonz
Feb 8 2006, 05:30 AM
willgonz
Feb 8 2006, 07:39 AM
Well, it is working pretty good. I get prompted for the drivers. However, the link to the drivers is dead. If someone could PM me a link they would be my best friend. So far every thing is looking good. The PCB connects into the memory card. It doesn't fit snug, so for now I think I am going to have to use a piece of plastic and double sided tape. Once everything is finalized by the end of the week, I'll be able to offer these to you all.
zilli0n
Feb 8 2006, 08:51 AM
QUOTE(willgonz @ Feb 1 2006, 09:12 AM)

They won’t be more than $20 and I'm not making profit, just trying to help out. It is on a printed circuit board and is similar to the adaptor for XBOX 1 that allows you to use thumb drives.
Don't Lie... Resistors, PCB, and everything can't cost more than 5 dollars at that, people arent stupid you know... well some are...
willgonz
Feb 8 2006, 05:07 PM
QUOTE(zilli0n @ Feb 7 2006, 11:22 PM)

Don't Lie... Resistors, PCB, and everything can't cost more than 5 dollars at that, people arent stupid you know... well some are...
If you make them yourself then they don't cost much. But if you have the PCB made yourself it costs more.
gothi
Feb 8 2006, 07:57 PM
I'd just like to add that using drivers to make the card appear as a device in Windows is a really bad idea, instead the maker of the software to transfer saves should be looking at using a "universal" USB driver such as USBIO (there is a free limited version) or libUSB to communicate with the device.
JoHnnyTK36
Feb 8 2006, 10:04 PM
willgonz
Feb 8 2006, 11:35 PM
QUOTE(JoHnnyTK36 @ Feb 8 2006, 12:35 PM)

Thanks JoHnnyTK36
willgonz
Feb 9 2006, 05:46 PM
Ok, the USB to XBOX 360 memory adaptors are ready to go. I tested them and they work. They will be $20 and that will include shipping US Postal Priority Mail. If you want one PM me. It will ship out Monday or Tuesday.
dwall4
Feb 9 2006, 07:31 PM
http://mesh.typepad.com/blog/2005/01/creating_a_usb_.htmlor do it yourself...
i did this and i can run a 256 meg Lexar jumpdrive as my memcard, and i used the actualy memory chip from the memory card to make an action replay.
JoHnnyTK36
Feb 9 2006, 07:53 PM
Sorry but havent you read any of this thread. Don\'t you think we have tried this.
This will not work for the 360. It has a sercurity chip inside that makes it where you cannot use just any flashdrive.
Sorry but it will NOT work.
willgonz
Feb 10 2006, 01:01 AM
I have 10 of my adapters that I am selling for $5 each they work just fine, but aren't pretty. You'll pay shipping US Mail only. PM me if you want one.
Angerwound
Feb 10 2006, 02:15 AM
What is the point of your adapter? Without any software to work with the Memory Card itself, you really can't do a damned thing with it.
QUOTE
Ok, the USB to XBOX 360 memory adaptors are ready to go. I tested them and they work. They will be $20 and that will include shipping US Postal Priority Mail. If you want one PM me. It will ship out Monday or Tuesday.
QUOTE
I have 10 of my adapters that I am selling for $5 each they work just fine, but aren't pretty. You'll pay shipping US Mail only. PM me if you want one.
That sure is a massive price change. Realize your radio shack kits aren't worth what you paid?
willgonz
Feb 10 2006, 06:23 AM
Angerwound,
My boards aren't Radio Shack boards. Let me see you do one like mine. Go ahead.
The reason I am going to sell them for $5 is I because they work but they got scratched up by the process.
xsnoopyx
Feb 14 2006, 03:51 AM
hullo. yeah i just read through this WHOLE topic and was pretty happy to see i dont have to rip open my memory card. Now I have a couple q's. Is everything willgonz used in this topic at like the begenningish or did he use something else? cuz im gonna kind of boycott what he just did to save myself an empty wallet. Oh and can you list the parts he used? Thanks!
Taciturn_Shade
Feb 14 2006, 06:58 AM
Read this thread through and through and decided to mod my memory unit. However, in one of the guides teh creator stated that u have to keep the USB seperate from the 360 when the memory unit is in place. I tried this without that type of setup and had them directly connected. I had no trouble copying/ duplicating files and profiles from winXP to the Xbox 360. I also used heatshrink instead of electrical tape, I'm a neat freak. I also filed a hole into the unit carrying case as well so i can still use it, though it leaves teh USB connector open and vulnerable.
Here are some pics of my setup:
Memory Unit and USB connected.

Again.

With Carrying Case on.

I would post pics of it in the 360, but all I have at the moment is my camera phone, and the quality would be terrible for a shot consisting of the tv and 360. Samsung A900, camera doesn't like light coming from either my CRT or TV.
Ozy
Feb 14 2006, 12:15 PM
When you guys are ready to ship to the UK PM me.
I would much like one (or more) of those adapters.
What would it cost me to get you to send me one of those adapters in the UK?
Will you acept PayPal payments?
willgonz
Feb 14 2006, 08:23 PM
I have more of my adaptors ready to be sold. I am selling them for $5 each. If you want one PM me.
If you PM me I have 3 units ready to go. First three will have theirs mailed out today. If you are wanting it from outside the US, it will take an extra day because I have to go to the post office.
JoHnnyTK36
Feb 14 2006, 11:43 PM
QUOTE(Taciturn_Shade @ Feb 13 2006, 11:29 PM)

Read this thread through and through and decided to mod my memory unit. However, in one of the guides teh creator stated that u have to keep the USB seperate from the 360 when the memory unit is in place. I tried this without that type of setup and had them directly connected. I had no trouble copying/ duplicating files and profiles from winXP to the Xbox 360.
Dont know if i ever got around to telling yall why i have to take the usb end off using my design.
The reason you have to keep the memory unit and the usb end seperate with my design is because using the 6 pin connector, it acts like a 10 gauge wire. That is too much for the memory unit and it will not read it if you leave the usb end connected and but the memory card back in the xbox 360.
Your design works becase you solderd a usb cable directly to the card. You dont have the bigger wires like i did and you dont have the connector in the middle. So yes you can leave the usb on with your design.
memturbo
Feb 15 2006, 04:24 PM
QUOTE(JoHnnyTK36 @ Jan 12 2006, 06:46 AM)

Great job on that guide.
Here is my guide.
Here is a like to download it, it is 22mb and in MS word format. Once i resize the images i will post it here.
http://savefile.com/files/5039022Hi JoHnnyTK36 would it be possible for 360saves.com for now to use your guide maybe post the pics
and details ? Im just a member not a mod but alot of people have been asking for one and I
have used yours and its very detailed let me know thanks
JoHnnyTK36
Feb 15 2006, 06:34 PM
QUOTE
Hi JoHnnyTK36 would it be possible for 360saves.com for now to use your guide maybe post the pics
and details ? Im just a member not a mod but alot of people have been asking for one and I
have used yours and its very detailed let me know thanks
Thanks for asking. You can use anything you want of mine as long as i get credit. My name on 360gamesaves.com is JoHnnyTK36 (go figure).
The guide on 360gamesaves.com orignally was a moddified version of mine. You can use my guide all you want. Here is a link to it with the pics downsized so it is alot smaller.
Here is the small guide
Taciturn_Shade
Feb 16 2006, 12:13 AM
QUOTE(JoHnnyTK36 @ Feb 14 2006, 02:14 PM)

Dont know if i ever got around to telling yall why i have to take the usb end off using my design.
The reason you have to keep the memory unit and the usb end seperate with my design is because using the 6 pin connector, it acts like a 10 gauge wire. That is too much for the memory unit and it will not read it if you leave the usb end connected and but the memory card back in the xbox 360.
Your design works becase you solderd a usb cable directly to the card. You dont have the bigger wires like i did and you dont have the connector in the middle. So yes you can leave the usb on with your design.
Gotcha. I see wut u meant now.
JCBDigger
Feb 20 2006, 12:40 PM
I've created an adpater using strip board (veroboard). Works fine.
I've put the design on a web page for anyone who wants to make their own.
http://discoverthat.co.uk/games/x360/360usbadapter.htm
Drunkn_Munky
Feb 21 2006, 02:33 PM
Wow the development looks really promising! Thanks for the tutorials JCB
TVR_Fan
Mar 7 2006, 09:36 PM
JoHnnyTK36
Mar 7 2006, 10:56 PM
QUOTE(TVR_Fan @ Mar 7 2006, 02:07 PM)

Yes one of those should work.
TVR_Fan
Mar 7 2006, 11:46 PM
Good I order one in on Wednesday mate.
ek5932
Mar 15 2006, 11:37 AM
Has any one who has modded their mem cards tried plugging the USB part into the USB slot of their 360. Will it read as a memory device or will it still recognise it as a card?
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