I think someone tried it, but was too scared to turn try access it.

I see no reason why it shouldn't.

You inspired me!




All recycled parts from other projects...

- USB cable from a broken camera card reader
- Springy connectors from a broken xbox controller memory card jack
- A 27 ohm surface mount resistor yanked from the xbox controller PCB
- PCB from the broken xbox controller cut and "milled" for each strip:


Works like a charm!

Will a 1/2W 47 0hm resistor work instead of a 33 or 27 Ohm resistor?

I've got the Datel X360 and Xbox card readers, and trying to use them in Windows XP-64, unfortunately the drivers aren't compatible. Anyone got any ideas as to how to get the X360 one in particular to work in XPx64? (The Xbox one I can just read over FTP from my Xbox so it's no biggy).

Any more development on this?

Hey guys. I started ripping up my 2nd mem card because it was supplied by the beast itself to me. well what i did was remove the mem chip all together and make the 360 mem connector run straight to standard 4-pin USB female. i knew this wouldn't work before i started, but i thought it worth a shot so i can test all this crap we're trying on my own. anway, when i plug in the mem card with no USB connected into the 360 mem card port, nothing happens. when i connect a USB stick to that, however, the system rechecks itself. of course, it doesn't find anything since i haven't figured out how to get that damned security chip over to my side yet.

i was wondering if anyone had tried piggybacking a USB off of the main mem card chip... i doubt it'd work, but basically just run a usb pinout to female off of the internal connectors of the mem card on top of how they're already connected to the board.

anybody tried that one yet?

-Kaitou_Ace

so i tried my earlier suggestion. of course, it didn't work. i hook my mem card up to my pc to use boxplorer through one of those mem card to usb things you see in the stores to download content (yes they exist as mem to usb) and using the 1.1 drivers the mem card works fine. once i add the usb cable piggybacking off the existing connections, the system no longer reads it. the xbox 360 does the same thing it did before: it reloads the devices to look for changes when you plug/unplug the mem card, but it never finds the card. when i desolder the usb cable everything is normal again.

i damn thee, security chip; i damn thee straight to hell.

-Kaitou_Ace

Thanks for trying anyway.

so is it possible to use for exemle a usb stick as memory or is that
totaly out of the question

and another thing is it possible to change the file system from my memory stick form
fat32 to fatx so that my xbox 360 would reconice it as memory unit and let is save games on it???

You can already change the filesystem. Its the sercurity chip that is getting in the way. I have been meaning to see if there is a a way i can take the security chip off the memory card and put it in a flash drive or jsut upgrade the memory in the 360s memory card. I have been very busy with school and this 360sata stuff though. I will let everybody know though if i find the time to figure out anything.

i'm assuming the security chip, which, by the way, i hate, is the silver eliptical one? is that right? i was wondering since there's also a similar chip in both the wireless and the wired controller.

ok you know that silver chip? in the controllers it's eliptical. it's also tagged with "24.000" somewhere on each of the silver chips. at first i thought crystal since it's a 2.4ghz system, but that doesn't make any sense why it'd be in the wired and the mem card. that's why i figured this was the security chip. upon further investigation i learned that there is the same chip labele "24.000" inside of a device called the "medusa," which is a unit hidden under the 360 through which the xbox 360 is controlled in store displays. it only has 2 contact points. if anyone has any ideas or thinks this could help, i may have come across an extra medusa.

-Kaitou_Ace

haha^^^ tard.

M$ is greedy and I can't stand it. It pisses me off beyond words that since I didn't want the HD because I only plan on storing game saves, I am almost forced to get the HD since I can't use my own personal usb flash drive. M$'s too worried about people finding holes in their system to allow the consumer to have options.

USB ports are programmed for READ-ONLY, so memory saving will never work on the 360 via the USB
ports.

That doesn't make sense, USB is just a way to send and recieve data. If they made it impossible for the USB to send any data then nothing would work since even the most basic device needs to be sent information to work.

i was just starting to make my own adapter and was wondering if i could use a female usb plug straight to the memory card just to make connections easier.

and by the way this is some great stuff here alot better than paying extra for stuff that i should i have already been able to receive with the cost of the system but i guess thats M$.

hi there been reading your thread is there a wat to listen in on what the memcard it recivin and sending usinga usb sniffer also im goin to tyu to upgdae my memcard to a 128 some how lol thers a space on the back for a nother chp:)


ben

If this is the case, how is one with a wired controler, with a memory card able to save? It has to go trough the USB

An even if this is true, then im sure someone will find a way to plug a USB drive into a controller instead maybe

M$ will be owned.....they can't always be so greedy!

any advancements on this topic?

i just can't bring myself to buy a 40 dollar memory card. But i want to portable functionality of my live account.

especially when i've got a 512mb usb thumb drive sitting here.

64mb for 40 bucks, you'd think it was the 90s again.

You can only use flash drives to transfer music/pictures unless someone makes some homebrew for the Xbox 360 for it to save gamesaves.

Are they programmed by software or hardware?

i obviously have no purpose here but to encourage the efforts of this attempt, but i beg you to please not give up, this would be a great asset to be able to have a flash drive work as a memory card.

hmm i think what gary might means that the xbox360 o/s can only read data from the usb port, that would include controller feed back also as it just reading whats being pushed on the controller.

i did wonder when you create a custom play list off a usb key, where does it keep the playlist layout? dont think its on the key , must be on the memory card or hardrive.


windows has software tools to make usb ports read-only, so maybe the 360 is the same and is dictated via the 360 O/S


i havent read a lot about the memory card, but why cant a usb key be modified so it can plug in this section of the drive rather than the usb ports since it obviously writes?

i think the security chip someone above has been mentioning defialty involves more investigation.

format the flash drive in FAT 32 should work fine after that!

does this actually work?

Nope, do you really think Microsoft would make it that easy?

acully thers a scandisk flashdrive that does indded dubble as a 360 memery card. guess it has the nedded chip. i have a 512mb mp3 player/usb mass storage device i would like to use myself. 40 bucks for 64 megs is plain retarted. hell i only payed 50 for my 512mb lol.

links dead? anyone got the file to send it to me?

did we find out if you can mod a stock memory card by adding more memory to it? or is the security chip locked to the size of the memory, such as the drive is locked to 20gb.

First of all, this is not a flame or to offend you brains in here, I'm just a humble gamer myself.

But I really need to know something:

Okay now we have found the source of data, made drivers and all that.

Once you have gotten hold of the data onto your memory card and loaded it in the game, then what ? if you cant get achievement points this way, why not just play the whole game yourself ?

I got an idea wich seems like noone have talked about in here.o0( Yes I have read the whole topic )
You cant get gamerscore because you are NOT the same gamer profile, but what if the profiles was named the exact same thing ? would it do any differences ? I know this piece is not a part of my whole "WHY-WHY-WHY" post, but whatever, it just crossed my mind.

I see the deal with the "Once-payed-now-free" data that can be transfered arround now, but really, if you cant get gamer points, isnt this just for ppl to get free arcade games, free upgrades and stuff ? in short terms, transferring M$ stuff from one MU to another for the purpose of NOT paying for it ?

I see the "challenge for a hacker" kind of situation here, and noone who do great hacking, says no to that, but why dont you guys come up with a way to configure the games, so that you could make mods of the game on your PC, transfer and use it like Oblivion-armored horses? I know this is much harder to even think of a usefull way, but hey, if some of you allready got the horse thing on a MU; Go for it.

All it needs is a bright mind and time, and some of you in here allready proven to be rightfull owners of the bright minds.

Since I'm no good at modding and stuff like that, I'll just sit back and wait

Any recent developments?

For giggles I hooked my hdd up to my 360 with my sata->USB converter, and of course, nothing happened. The 360 didn't detect it at all.

Apparently FatX isn't readable through the USB, so I don't think we'll be able to hack up a standard flash drive like this.

I am curious to using a flash drive, modded to work with the mc port, but according the the breif documention on the memcard, the two signals are Data 1 & Data 2. Whether it's actually just like a USB communication or not, I'm not sure, but as cheap as flash drives are, wouldn't hurt to try.

If that's true than how controller would know when to force feedback in the game. In situation's like gear shifting on automatic gears. There also (I think) must be some information what x360 wants from USB device, the exact mp3 to play.

Hi.

After all posts have you find any usb2sata adapter that can flash the xbox360(Samsung, benq, hitachi) drives whith that device(usb2sata)??

If you find it then which usb2sata adaptor is??

A lot of thanks.

Having read this thread, I decided to take a look into it myself. However I took a different path, whereby I am trying merely to upgrade the capacity of the mem unit. Upon opening both a memory unit and a £10 usb stick... one thing i noticed is that the shitty little 64mb is just a standard memory chip. Exactly the same as the pendrive.

And the little silver bit with 24.000 inscribed on it, almost identical to a similar piece on the drive. The pics show it.

I don't know if anyone else had already mentioned this in a previous thread, but I thought it would be useful in our quest.

I'm trying to work out how likely that the unit would still work if I replaced the memory chip with one of higher capacity, made by the same manufacturer. My unit's chip is SAMSUNG.

Memory chips
The apparent "Crystals"

Beware, the pics are pretty big and I couldn't be bothered resizing them. Low bandwidth users are screwed.

Okay, I'm like the ultimate Newb here: first post, just got my first 360 [new mobo after, pre-warranty extension broken sticker & RRoD]. This also probably technically Off-Topic...

If the PC USB flash drive is such a pain, why not just figure out how to wire a SD adapter? Prices are dropping all the time but a 1 GB SD card has been $10-15 delivered on Newegg for about 9 months. I know (from my Rio mp3 player) that they run 3.3v.

I certainly don't have the expertise or the cash for the poking around you guys are doing (I'm envious). So if I'm just being a dumb SOB newb, feel free to tell me.

I really can't tell from this thread if that would be "too easy," you're not interested, or it would be too hard.

I've read this thread, from the beginning. I searched, closely checking the 2006 & 2007 threads, only this post: Moving Saves Around on SD adapters...

I really would like to have a cheaper storage solution than $30 for 512 GB or $100 for a hard drive with a limited life span.

To be clear, I'm talking about using [removeable] SD card in adapter as a replacement for the MU. I could care less about being able to backup my 360 saves to PC, hacking the 360 OS or whatever.

If you can replace the memory on the memory unit try this idea
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ipod_Nano_200...n_ATA_connector
and conect a ide hard drive to it.
You might be able to get a usb to ide converter as well to use usb drives.
Also with the use the existing security chip idea make sure you remove the memory and try using a usb hub because ther both seperate usb devices or power the usb drive from one of the 360's usb ports. Tell me how it goes because I can't try it my self.

You can understand his[/her] "diagram" ??

Maybe it's my color vision, but beyond the one chip, I have no clue what solder points he's dealing with --either in the original Nano, or the ATA card.

I have no special skill soldering.

I'd like to think this type of thing would work with the daughterboard from a Rio Forge (dirt cheap & has a SD memory card slot)... but then you'd be hacking 2 really small proprietary devices.

The larger ATA capacity would sure be nice, but I just happen to think 3.3v and plug & play make SD a more natural fit. I guess there could be ZIF drives or even 5v ide44 drives that might work, as well?

If I get the courage to actually fool around with that idea as far as 'this works/doesn't work,' it would have to be a new thread.

I sure wish one or more of the Forum Einsteins were a bit more into this. They've come up with so much though, you can't really complain.

where's ur resistor to convert the power to 3.3V?

you do realise you replied to a post that is over 2 years old

so where are we now, any improvement/developments?

hi
i need unformated dump memory unit.
anybody help me.
best regards

There seems to be a lot of confusion as to why this should be achieved.

Although using a flash drive my be a stepping stone to proving the theory I think the ultimate reason for doing this would be as an adaptor to add your own HDD.

I'm hoping that someone will mod an existing Memory Unit, leave the Security Chip intact and just solder on a SATA or PATA adaptor in place of the memory chips themselves. Very similar to what the iPOD Nano PATA mod achieved. (Mentioned earlier in this thread.)

The MU to HDD hack seems easier in theory than replacing the 20GB with a larger hdd, which has already proven to be very difficult and not worth doing.

Let's put it this way, whoever figures out how to do this will become famous overnight on the mod scene and no doubt make lots of cash from selling the hacked MU's.

I'm just trying to give the true mod freaks a nudge to put more effort into this

If they could do it to the Nano it can be done here I'm sure. The Datel 4GB PSP device also rings similars bells. It's posible that the security chip stores a capacity value which may prove tricky, but frustratingly, no one has even tried to see if that is the case.

Hi im new here and to xbox 360 i have and elite and i was trying to copy files from a storage device to my harddrive i did not find any solutions but i came across this conversation regarding storage devices ... if you were to buy a microsoft flash drive it works handling data media and photographs it cant hold profiles or anything like that but it still acts like a normal drive remeber is a usb plugin device mine is a 4gb flashdrive and because microsoft made xbox the hardware is compatible it worked for me why shouldnt it work for you ? ... and if anyone knows how to transfere data from a flashdrive to a xbox hardrive please let me know ive found nothing about it in the manual ?? thanx hope ive helped !! =]

anyone have working pics for this tutoral. part where using 3.3v regulator with xbox360 memcard and usb cables.

Each memory card has a security chip. On it should be a device Id, some generic data, and a 2048 bit RSA Signature of all that. That is how the 360 verifys it as a legit storage device.

BTW the data + and - in the xbox 360 memory units are usb data + and usb data + ...I have connect 2 female usb ports to each memory unit data + - and 5v from the PSU and now i have 5 working usb ports in my 360.

Is there a working XP64 driver? I've connected the memory card to my PC and it's only showing as "unknown device" in control panel, and the drivers in X360MemoryUnitDriversV1.1.exe aren't working

I should add I'm trying to access a 256mb memory card which is slightly different than the original tutorials but I would guess the wiring should be the same?