Nugwin
Jan 17 2006, 12:53 AM
I have a 1.3 xbox w/ a duox2 lite. I want to go on live, but when i tried to solder the bt to the top left corner of th eject button It will not work. I try pressing the ejct button and it powers up, then powers down, the powers up to the modded bios. can someone help me? thank you!
Speil
Jan 17 2006, 01:30 AM
You could always make sure your MS dash is installed................. Like i told you on AIM. Reasearch! Reasearch! Reasearch!
Nugwin
Jan 17 2006, 02:02 AM
it is installed. i can boot fine to it using unleash. anyone else can help me?
maxima1274
Jan 17 2006, 02:31 AM
Did you solder bt to the modchip?
Nugwin
Jan 17 2006, 02:43 AM
yes its on the modchip.
Julius Pleaser
Jan 17 2006, 03:23 AM
Try soldering to the Alt-BT rather than the top left of the eject button.
maxima1274
Jan 17 2006, 05:35 AM
I would say try soldering a new wire because ur wire might have gotton all damaged when u were trying to solder it.Something like that happened to me.
Nugwin
Jan 17 2006, 10:01 PM
is it possible just to flash my chip so that it juts boots to ms bios?
Speil
Jan 17 2006, 11:32 PM
Damn it nugwin. Then what would be the point of a chip? Just keep trying different Wires.
maxima1274
Jan 18 2006, 01:11 AM
Omg man.Did you try to solder a new wire or not?
novakpower
Jan 18 2006, 05:39 AM
The top BT on the power/eject board works good if you do not drop solder on the EMI shield and bridge a connection. Pre-tin the wire and add a litte flux to the top left spot and you should get a great connection. Make sure the wire is running down and away from any possible pinch points the DVD drive will cause when reinstalled.
Nugwin
Jan 20 2006, 12:05 AM
i'd be willing to give up the modded bios part if i could just flash my chip somehow so i would just go to ms bios. because my BT is still notworking . so if someone could just give me a tut for that. that would be great.
Nugwin
Jan 20 2006, 12:18 AM
this seems pretty bizzare, i hold theeject button for a few seconds and it powers up, then powers down, the powers up and powers down, and then it frags. does this mean something? thanks.
Paintballpsyco2369
Jan 20 2006, 05:24 AM

Try using the bt point on the motherboard. That should work.
Nugwin
Jan 20 2006, 11:27 PM
alright thanks man, will try that tonight, if it doesnt work. ill reply back, if it does work.....ill proabably not! haha ill probably be playing LIVE! jk. actually ill stop by and say thanks to everyone.!
appleguru
Jan 20 2006, 11:31 PM
Does the xbox boot ok to the retail bios with the chip removed? Could always be a currupt tsop
Speil
Jan 21 2006, 01:34 AM
His problem is a Failed softmod attempt(s). So his TSOP is just fine. And Nugwin you cant flash the MS BIOS to the chip....what would be the point of the chip...And no one that i know of has a retail MS bios available to DL anyway.
Nugwin
Jan 21 2006, 03:14 AM
alright, i soldered the alt BT FINE! no solder splashes nothing! I know my MS dash boots becasuse i made it my default dash....soo wtf? can anyone help me at all? If you have aim that would be great cause then i could do w/e you tell me cuz i have a laptop and i can go to the xbox and chat at the same time.
Julius Pleaser
Jan 21 2006, 03:21 AM
Post pics of your solder job. Cause I still think you messed up somehow.
Nugwin
Jan 21 2006, 03:24 AM
No, dude, its fine. I used the multimeter to make sure it was a good connection.! so whats wrong??
Julius Pleaser
Jan 21 2006, 03:29 AM
multimeter doesn't find cross solders for you.
Nugwin
Jan 21 2006, 03:32 AM
theres no solder splashes though if that is what a cross solder is.
antz1970
Jan 21 2006, 03:35 AM
where does your d0 from the motherboard go to?? if it goes to a screw hole , then u need to disconnect it from screwhole and connect to d0 point on the modchip , then bt to eject button have a look @ the guides
here or
here how does your installation compare? , and the other guys are correct , u will need to post pics if you want help on this one m8
Julius Pleaser
Jan 21 2006, 03:39 AM
I just use the term cross solder as any form of bridging of traces ie splash, too much solder, etc.
We want to help, takes some pics of your work and we will take a look
Nugwin
Jan 21 2006, 03:40 AM
heres my install:
my lite is installed in the correct position, the d0 from the chip goes to the top d0 point on the motherboard. the BT on the chip goes to the BT on the bottom of the motherboard. the top picture on
this site is where i soldered my BT because the eject BT doesnt work.
Ill get a few pictures in a minute.
antz1970
Jan 21 2006, 03:46 AM
ok i would try disconnecting the bt wire , ground your d0 from motherboard to screwhole , then check that chip is booting 100% everytime , if it is , then just put a switch inbetween the d0 - screwhole wire , then u can turn chip on and off
Julius Pleaser
Jan 21 2006, 03:50 AM
If you are still having troubles I would suggest you try the bottom D0. I have done 50+ installs with no failures and even I have troubles with the top D0 and have to redo it sometimes. So it really is not worth trying to use it.
Nugwin
Jan 21 2006, 03:53 AM
well you see the reason why i got my chip was because my softmod was a messup, It wouldnt boot to any bios. so if i put a switch on it....i might not boot to the ms bios or something? Even though Spiel told me that flashing MS bios to my chip is impossible.....is there a way to take off the modded bios, and make it so that the MS bios will boot all the same? Is it because my MS bios are corrupt or something?
when i press eject on this new BT i pwoers up, powers down, then boots up to the modded bios then the MS dash.
QUOTE(Julius Pleaser @ Jan 20 2006, 09:57 PM)

If you are still having troubles I would suggest you try the bottom D0. I have done 50+ installs with no failures and even I have troubles with the top D0 and have to redo it sometimes. So it really is not worth trying to use it.
Yea i tried the bottom d0 the first time i tried installing and it wouldnt work. the top d0 only works with me....
antz1970
Jan 21 2006, 04:01 AM
if the d0 is not grounded the xbox will load the bios from the tsop chip(stock bios) and load xbox dashboard
if the d0 is grounded the xbox looks to the lpc(modchip) for a (hacked) bios and then will usually load evox(dashboard) if it is present on your hard drive(if evox dash is not present tho it will load ms dashboard but will still be in chipped mode ,i think you may be getting bios and dahboard confused with each other , in my opinion a mechanical on/off switch is the best xbox live soloution as you are physically moving a switch to turn chip on and off , but dont forget if you ever do get it working properly , always remove network lead when not on live
**edit**
D0(motherboard)-----------------this is a wire-----------------switch-----this is a wire too----------screwhole
when switch is closed hence grounding d0 to screwhole the bios on the chip will load , if the swich is open the d0 is not getting grounded so the stock MS bios will load , hope that crap diagram makes sencse lol
Nugwin
Jan 21 2006, 04:04 AM
how do i unground my xbox?
sorry i am a nub.
EDIT:
Sorry, it didnt lol. could anyone give me a tut or something on how to do this with BIG clear pictures?
again i am a noob.
antz1970
Jan 21 2006, 04:09 AM
also forgot is u r gonna use the method i suggested , you will also need a wire link on the chip as shown in the first pic
here u should really try working thru the steps that hackdabox outlines in his troubleshooting guide
antz1970
Jan 21 2006, 04:29 AM
ok , im no picasso lol , but see if this makes it easier to understand
Nugwin
Jan 21 2006, 04:43 AM




picture 1 is the modchip install
picture 2 is the d0
picture 3 is the alt Bt
picture 4 is the alt bt.
sorry for 3&4 its kinda hard to see.
Videos:
http://media.putfile.com/bootuphttp://media.putfile.com/bootup1
Julius Pleaser
Jan 21 2006, 05:16 AM
LOL. I think you are confused. YOU SUCCESSFULLY MODDED YOUR BOX. It shows your hacked bios loading (I am 99% sure it said Xecuter at the bottom of the boot logo rather than MS). If you don't install another dashboard it goes to the MS DASHboard by default. SO get yourself a CD like Slayers Auto Installer and load a dashboard onto your box and you are good to go.
Nugwin
Jan 21 2006, 05:20 AM
Dude, i want to get on live. and no.... I deleted the unleash i installed beforea nd installed the MS dash from AutoINstaller Deluxe 2.0. so yes. whats wrong?
Nugwin
Jan 21 2006, 04:01 PM
Question: If i boot up the MS dash in UnleashX put in halo 2, make a new account from halo 2, do you think i would be banned?
Julius Pleaser
Jan 21 2006, 04:46 PM
yes. Live bans your based on what Bios was booted. So if you boot from a hacked bios, regardless of what dashboard you use, you will get banned.
You need a retail Bios. From what I am reading you tried a softmod/TSOP flash maybe and killed your retail BIOS.
antz1970
Jan 21 2006, 04:48 PM
yes you will be banned !!!!!!!!! , if you can load unleash x , then your chip is on isnt it?????? , what is happening with the chiup taken out of the xbox??? does it still boot up? i dont understand how you are getting a problem loading the ms bios????
**if you can get to the unleash dashboard , your chip is running , i woluld suggest using slayers disc or some kind of auto installer to format your hard drive this will put a hacked dashboard , and make sure your ms dash is complete
HackDaBox
Jan 21 2006, 06:04 PM
I am frustrated just reading this post ! lol
To setup a dashboard just Download AID 2.11 final.
Remove the chip from the headerpin and turn it on ? what happens ? any error code displayed ?
If it boots and says MS under the big X then your tsop is fine , if it frags then yout tsop is dead and you should get a duox2 ( not a lite ) keep the lite for another install as you will need 2 bios banks !
1 bios bank will be a compatible MS bios and the other bios bank will have a Xecuter 2 bios on it !
HackDaBox !
gjm
Jan 21 2006, 07:59 PM
Another thread has just come up with a problem described which could possibly be the case with this..
QUOTE
several of the duox2s that i have installed will not disable the chip with the eject button unless its held for a second or so (e.g a quick press results in the hacked bios loading)
As HackDaBox said though, you need to ascertain that the TSOP is not broken as that would obviously stop you being able to boot from the Xbox's MS bios..
Speil
Jan 21 2006, 10:41 PM
What happens when his Xbox is turned on (without chip) is
It boots up.
Green LED
Stays at a black screen and goes no further
no audio or video
And Nugwin if you have a chip Its kinda Crucial to have a Hacked Dashboard Running.
dugee81
Jan 22 2006, 12:04 AM
QUOTE(Speil @ Jan 21 2006, 10:48 PM)

What happens when his Xbox is turned on (without chip) is
It boots up.
Green LED
Stays at a black screen and goes no further
no audio or video
And Nugwin if you have a chip Its kinda Crucial to have a Hacked Dashboard Running.
im no xbox pro, but my guess at this point (with what youve said), his TSOP (?) is busted. not sure though (im a noob, also

).
Nugwin
Jan 22 2006, 02:09 AM
wow my tsop is busted? how can i fix this?
Julius Pleaser
Jan 22 2006, 04:46 AM
You can either get yourself a 29 wire mod chip to reflash your TSOP. Or just use a dual bios chip and flash one bank with a retail bios and then flip it over when you need to play live.
appleguru
Jan 22 2006, 06:55 AM
Like I said before, sounds like your tsop

...Best bet is to do what HackDaBox said. And yes, you can boot a retail bios from the chip and use it to go on live without getting banned.
If you get a regular duox2 (2 banks, cromwell or the blue), you can wire up an external bank switch and flash one bank with hacked and one with retail.. Or you could buy a slightly more expensive chip like the x2.6CE that already has an external bank switch...
Nugwin
Jan 22 2006, 03:29 PM
Well, Lets say my tsop isnt busted. Because I've been talking with Spiel, and he said the modchip goes through the tsop to boot right? And my modchip runs fine.. So It must be my eeprom or onboard bios. This is what Speil said and im juswt passing the information along. So lets say my tsop is fine......how do i fix my eeprom or onboard bios and how do i find out which one is the one thats screwing up my xbox? And if this theory is out of the water.....please post and tell me
gjm
Jan 22 2006, 04:03 PM
The TSOP is your onboard BIOS. A modchip causes the Xbox to completely bypass the TSOP, and boot from the modchip BIOS. If your TSOP is bust, then you have no onboard BIOS, which would explain your problem. Hence why HackDaBox suggested a dual bank modchip, so you can have a hacked BIOS on one bank, and an original BIOS (like what was on your TSOP before you knackered it) on the other bank.
Forget your EEPROM for now.
The EEPROM contains your Xbox's unique code which is what they ban if you use a hacked BIOS to go onto Live. If you've wiped your EEPROM you'll probably need a new Xbox (which will of course come with a new EEPROM) to go on Live again.
appleguru
Jan 22 2006, 04:35 PM
Uhm, yeah.. Being able to boot to the chip means absolutely nothing about the condition of your TSOP. The TSOP is the chip on the motherboard that contains your retail bios. Booting from LPC bypasses this chip, and is why you're able to boot ok from a chip and not from the tsop.
If your eeprom was shot, your xbox wouldn't even boot to a hacked bios (unless that bios has an embedded eeprom); it would likely just flash red at you. Since you can boot to a hacked bios no problems, I doubt it's your eeprom.
Nugwin
Jan 22 2006, 07:08 PM
so its the tsop......i have to buy a NEW modchip now?
gjm
Jan 22 2006, 07:11 PM
Flippin 'eck.. Read!
You have a DuoX2 Lite. This has 1 bank. Therefore you can have one BIOS on this chip. You say you want to go on Live. Therefore you must flash a RETAIL BIOS to this bank.
All is good, all is well, Live works, but you have not got a hacked Xbox any more as you only have a retail BIOS (this may be all that you want, if so - great).
If you care about a hacked BIOS, then you will need to get a new chip that enables you to have TWO BIOS' on the chip at the same time, with a switch to choose between.
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