mysiskatten
Mar 14 2006, 09:18 AM
What resolution do you run XBMC in?
JayDee
Mar 14 2006, 10:31 AM
XBox 1: 720p 42" TV (Plasma)
XBox 2: PAL 16x9 32" TV
XBox 3: PAL 4x3 28" TV
mysiskatten
Mar 14 2006, 03:13 PM
I run 720P 16:9 PM3 on Samsung LCD TV and it looks good
Perplexer
Mar 14 2006, 08:54 PM
480p / 16x9 since my TV doesn't do 720p
uneekwahn
Mar 14 2006, 11:16 PM
so whats better, 720p or 1080i?
I just got a 42" plasma, and am waiting on my component cables
pike
Mar 15 2006, 02:12 AM
720 always, 1080 eats mem for breakfast, mem the xbox doesnt have
lusal
Mar 16 2006, 02:26 AM
It's funny you mention that pike...I've been using XBMC in 1080i 16:9 on a NTSC 32" Sammy CRT HDTV....every now and again (depending on the file) I get some issues - severe hiccups, not playing the file etc.
I don't know how many threads I've seen on here (and I know you guys have too) where people are troubled to find that "the newest version of XBMC" is not playing their "DivX files".
When in reality, the problem is something else....
Most of these issues can be resolved by tweaking the cache settings, altering the display resolution, finding a more adequately interleaved file, or properly setting up your network permission settings.
I know that you peeps already know all this...perhaps a small post-it note somewhere might limit these questions...I guess the search function serves this well enough...
Anyhoo...neat thread. The upconversion in XBMC is very cool and turns a $150 machine into a valuable commodity.
The Zep Man
Mar 16 2006, 09:05 PM
Why is there no 576i in the poll? After all, XBMC uses 720x576 (interlaced) for PAL.
mysiskatten
Mar 17 2006, 12:37 PM
oops forget about that but I think it´s to late to correct my fault
Don´t know how to edit my poll, maby a admin can edit the poll.
And ad 576i and PAL and NTSC as an alternative.
The Zep Man
Mar 17 2006, 01:06 PM
QUOTE(mysiskatten @ Mar 17 2006, 12:44 PM)

oops forget about that but I think it´s to late to correct my fault
Don´t know how to edit my poll, maby a admin can edit the poll.
And ad 576i and PAL and NTSC as an alternative.
You will only need 576i as an extra option. Normal NTSC is 480i (720x480 interlaced). I will contact Pike and see if he wants to add this option.
pike
Mar 17 2006, 05:44 PM
even if I knew how to edit a POLL (which I don't) Im not gonna do it.
then the results would be rendered worthless
japhule
Mar 17 2006, 08:09 PM
480i and 576i should technically be in the same category IMO.
The Zep Man
Mar 17 2006, 09:11 PM
QUOTE(japhule @ Mar 17 2006, 08:16 PM)

480i and 576i should technically be in the same category IMO.
And on what is your opinion based?
Personally, I can see the difference between NTSC and PAL. The resolution differs, but also the refresh rate. Saying which one of the two is better would open an 30 year old flamewar, but there is a notable difference.
@Pike
Thanks for explaining.
japhule
Mar 17 2006, 09:47 PM
I'd think most people using 480i is using an NTSC display while people using 576i is using a Pal display.
uneekwahn
Mar 18 2006, 01:15 AM
so if I upgraded the memory in the xbox, that may help?

QUOTE(pike @ Mar 15 2006, 02:19 AM)

720 always, 1080 eats mem for breakfast, mem the xbox doesnt have
JayDee
Mar 18 2006, 08:58 AM
Yes it would. But you can "only" do it on 1.0->1.5 xbox´s and the memchip is ~$40 bucks.
Then you need some skills to solder it in.
uneekwahn
Mar 19 2006, 03:11 AM
well, that sucks the balls.
I've got a 1.6

oh well, I'll just be happy with 720p

QUOTE(JayDee @ Mar 18 2006, 09:05 AM)

Yes it would. But you can "only" do it on 1.0->1.5 xbox´s and the memchip is ~$40 bucks.
Then you need some skills to solder it in.
Zigic1980
Mar 19 2006, 07:43 PM
Guys can someone help me?
I got a component cable and a samsung 42" flatscreen that is ready for 480p and for 1080i. how can I run xbmc to this resolutions?
edwinmcdunlap
Mar 19 2006, 09:11 PM
What about the people that don't have an HDTV?
Sorry, I can't vote in this poll.
Frostbyte
Mar 20 2006, 01:22 AM
QUOTE(lusal @ Mar 16 2006, 02:33 AM)

It's funny you mention that pike...I've been using XBMC in 1080i 16:9 on a NTSC 32" Sammy CRT HDTV....every now and again (depending on the file) I get some issues - severe hiccups, not playing the file etc.
Same here. After reading this thread, I tried switching from 1080i to 720p and now all my problem videos play just fine! 720p for me now!
uneekwahn
Mar 20 2006, 03:28 AM
just a thought regarding this comment ...
because the current default skin (Pm3) seems to take up a lot of memory, and Blackbolt's new skin MC360 will be tiny in comparison due to it's use of vector graphics, will this free up a sizeable amount of memory that could help rectify this problem?
QUOTE(pike @ Mar 15 2006, 02:19 AM)

720 always, 1080 eats mem for breakfast, mem the xbox doesnt have
japhule
Mar 20 2006, 04:36 PM
QUOTE(edwinmcdunlap @ Mar 19 2006, 02:18 PM)

What about the people that don't have an HDTV?
Sorry, I can't vote in this poll.
If you do not have an HDTV, then you are using 480i (if you're in an NTSC country like US) and probably 4:3.
uneekwahn
Mar 24 2006, 05:57 AM
well, got my component cables yesterday and I must say that 720 rocks!
the text is so sharp and clean.
it's made me fall in love with xbmc for a second time!
shmokes
Mar 27 2006, 06:52 AM
I generally use 1080i becaues my 40" tv doesn't do 720p. I like the upconversion of videos, but I really wish there was an option to increase the font size or an option to switch to a different resolution when videos are played. It's too damned small at 1080i. The font size at 480p is a bit larger than I'd like, but definitely preferable to squinting at the TV all the time. If I had a larger 50" or 60" TV I don't think it'd be a problem, but I don't so that's neither here nor there.
colt45joe
Mar 28 2006, 06:35 AM
i use 1080i.. but i think my brother is using 1080p (im not sure).
snappz
Mar 29 2006, 08:26 PM
Using 720p here. Even the flubber looks good in HD

QUOTE(colt45joe @ Mar 28 2006, 01:42 PM)

i use 1080i.. but i think my brother is using 1080p (im not sure).
not 1080p. xbox doesnt support it (and very few displays have 1080p inputs)
FouR86
Apr 7 2006, 05:46 PM
I had no idea so many people were running in 16:9. This poll alone just makes me want to get a widescreen monitor now.
But maybe its just a bias that people with better TV's want to append their vote to a survey. Statistics... can't trust'em...
Deathlok
Apr 7 2006, 06:30 PM
720P here on a Hitachi 42v525 which does 720p natively
Ran it in 1080i for the longest time before i bothered to check the resolution and found out it wasn't running in my TV's native res.
And XBMC with PMIII does feel snappier in 720p now that people mention it
deadparrot
Apr 9 2006, 04:18 PM
43" Pioneer PDP436-XDE at 720p is for me. But my xbox is out of action for a bit due to case modding.
PSUPef2k
Apr 13 2006, 03:48 AM
How do I change the resolution to 720p? I have not been able to find it ANYWHERE in xbmc settings. Is it in the XML file?
PSUPef2k
Apr 13 2006, 06:06 AM
I figured it out, nevermind. Anyway, I think I am going to switch back to 480p because on 720p 16:9 video and everything is ok, but the text is a bit blurry. 43" hitachi widescreen rear projection TV. Several years old.
corky
Apr 13 2006, 02:43 PM
Oh well heres a twist, i was always using 480p on my 32" lcd tv, don't like 720p its a smaller area on the screen.
But now with the latest build of xbmc i am running the skin at 480p and playing dvd's / avi's at 1080i

Because now they have added a seperate video output screen mode. Best of both worlds.
Lovely
amaskell
Apr 18 2006, 02:18 PM
I can't switch to 16:9.... its driving me mad
It only give me resolution options of 4:3 or auto.
on my old 27" 4:3 tele - I'm sure I had 16:9 options.. since moving to a 32" lcd - I only get 4:3
I've forced my 32" LCD to 16:9 but it is just stretching the 4:3 image
A mate is running 16:9 and says it just switches by default
..... any advice?!
Chokemaniac
Apr 19 2006, 03:13 PM
the widescreen option must be enabled in the MS dash
amaskell
Apr 21 2006, 12:15 PM
yup - that sorted it thx... its been such a long time since I've used the MSDash... like about an hour after buying my xbox!
Cheers!
autoxerFSP21
Apr 26 2006, 03:45 AM
QUOTE(PSUPef2k @ Apr 13 2006, 01:13 AM)

I figured it out, nevermind. Anyway, I think I am going to switch back to 480p because on 720p 16:9 video and everything is ok, but the text is a bit blurry. 43" hitachi widescreen rear projection TV. Several years old.
How did you do that? I'm using Expert's 4/23 release and I've dug all through the setup to find that option and didn't see it.
ruciz
Apr 26 2006, 12:55 PM
weird. Been running PM3 with V1.0 xbox at 1080i and not even a hiccup. Using the X2 5032 bios I believe, its a hardmod.. shouldn't make a wink of difference tho. Guess I got lucky with my system, or just don't watch media that won't play (most I rar up and xfer over, divx/xvid and mpg mainly).
Like the animation feature of PM3 tho.. addds a nice touch.
QUOTE(autoxerFSP21 @ Apr 26 2006, 03:52 AM)

How did you do that? I'm using Expert's 4/23 release and I've dug all through the setup to find that option and didn't see it.
Last I seen you go to settings and system or appearance. You need to be using the high def cables though for the option to be present, standard xbox cables will only give you standard output capibilities.
glimmerung
Apr 27 2006, 01:55 AM
Is it possible to get any of the hi-def settings when using a PAL system? From what I remember (haven't messed with the xbox for a little while) it wasn't possible, but I'm hoping I'm wrong.
Cheers for any help
Icantfindanick
Apr 27 2006, 06:12 PM
QUOTE(glimmerung @ Apr 27 2006, 03:02 AM)

Is it possible to get any of the hi-def settings when using a PAL system? From what I remember (haven't messed with the xbox for a little while) it wasn't possible, but I'm hoping I'm wrong.
Cheers for any help
What you can do is switching your PAL/NTSC setting in the EEPROM to enable the HD output. But to do that you have to be sure that your TV will support NTSC (480i), ETV (480p) or HD (720p, 1080i).
glimmerung
Apr 30 2006, 12:17 AM
QUOTE(Icantfindanick @ Apr 27 2006, 06:19 PM)

What you can do is switching your PAL/NTSC setting in the EEPROM to enable the HD output. But to do that you have to be sure that your TV will support NTSC (480i), ETV (480p) or HD (720p, 1080i).
The TV isn't a problem. It'll take 720p and 1080i no problem. I guess I'd need to set the xbox to 720p due to the memory issues, but other than that, it shouldn't be a problem.
Would this be an issue with Pal games, though?
And also, what output cable would be needed?
Cheers again.
glimmerung
Apr 30 2006, 11:09 PM
Ok, the cable is sorted. Still not sure about the PAL games though.
XLNC
May 2 2006, 03:06 AM
Is it possible to get high definition on a PAL xbox, if yes would a scart socket do or do I need the advanced AV pack.
I've got a scart cable which doesn't have those three leads for sound and video it's a straight scart lead, will that allow HD?
If games can't work in HD can I watch downloaded TV programs on XBMC in HD at 720p?
How do I get .TS files to work on xbmc?
kimgitz
May 5 2006, 10:42 PM
Am currently using A Pal xbox in the uk. I have xecuter x3ce. All I had to do is switch from pal to ntsc and enable the hi-def modes. I got the m$ HD A/V Pack. I have a 42" plasma screen. Using xbmc at 1080i is tricky as the text size is too small.
There is a way of changing the fonts.
I've played a some DVDs and TV programmes and with the LCD can see the resolution used. I have pal games and played a few with no problem even when the chip is off. I dont use xbox live with this though.
There are some settings in xbmc that I had to change because of changing to ntsc. You can choose which resolution to play dvds if different from games and dashboards.
Most HD Ready plasma screens coming out support both pal and ntsc.
Am pleased to say everything works well!
taiq
May 29 2006, 12:28 AM
480i 4:3. I'd like to run 576i -- which my TV/Xbox supports -- but the option is unavailable. Odd.
Hoping to upgrade to 480p or 720p sometime next year.
z1985
May 29 2006, 05:59 PM
I guess that only by using a HDTV AV cable you are able to choose the output?
mine's currently @ 480i. cant change.
btw, does the 720i mode also applies when using the normal yellow, red & white plugs?
I've nv seen a HDTV cable before. i belief it does provides other means like YCbCr etc..
does it runs on normal TV using the yellow, red, white plugs in 720i as well?
bushisafkgidiot
Jun 2 2006, 03:30 AM
720p on 100 inch widescreen high def projector........
bdf24
Jun 2 2006, 03:57 PM
QUOTE(z1985 @ May 29 2006, 12:06 PM)

I guess that only by using a HDTV AV cable you are able to choose the output?
mine's currently @ 480i. cant change.
btw, does the 720i mode also applies when using the normal yellow, red & white plugs?
I've nv seen a HDTV cable before. i belief it does provides other means like YCbCr etc..
does it runs on normal TV using the yellow, red, white plugs in 720i as well?
There is no 720i only 720p. And anything higher then 480i will require a component cable (HD Cable). The standard composite cable (yellow one) will only output 480i, S-video will also only output 480i. The red and white are only for audio not video.
Also you need an HDTV to run anything higher then 480p from any source including the xbox.
slumberpod77
Jun 5 2006, 08:28 PM
semi OT question: if i am developing a skin and i do not have access to a proper 16x9 display but still want/need to develop 16x9 support for it, is using the "Widescreen with bars" option within the MS Dash ok for this purpose? i would assume so but figured i'd ask here first...
LickGuy
Jun 6 2006, 11:00 AM
i'm on x2vga+ & pc monitor
XBMC looks sexy on 720p 16:9
i love the font

1080i the font are too small for me as I got bad eye sight
notanick
Jun 6 2006, 12:49 PM
running at 4:3
still got a very old TV, doesn't support 1080i
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