krayzie
Apr 24 2006, 08:42 PM
I made a small update to fix some minor bugs and to add the on/off switch again since there was interest.
You can download the kit
HEREI've tested it thorougly but it has not been tested by others. It should be safe though.
have fun
DaddyJ
Apr 24 2006, 09:18 PM
nice work krayzie.....look forward to checking this out, your gamesaves always rock.
link works fine for me..
deadparrot
Apr 24 2006, 09:47 PM
You may want to fix those backslashes in the link, and make sure the file is there
krayzie
Apr 25 2006, 03:38 AM
Hmm the link worked fine for me. I fixed the backslashes. Maybe that helps
4everlearning
Apr 25 2006, 06:25 PM
Link worked fine for me.
great work Krayzie
ikecomp
Apr 25 2006, 06:46 PM
I'm at work and cant extract it right now, can anyone tell me whats new in the update besides what krayzie stated in his initial post or post some text from the readme.
krayzie
Apr 25 2006, 06:52 PM
From the nfo:
QUOTE
Changes from 1.1 to 1.1.1
-fixed launching bug in extras
-added on/off switch (again)
-added warning and check for removed 1.1 save with upgrade function
Now that I read it again it actually should say for removed 1.0 save
JustXploit
Apr 25 2006, 08:55 PM
Wohooooooooooo!! Hoo hoooo!
An update. Great. Very good mate!!!
how waz da??
JustXploit
Apr 25 2006, 09:36 PM
These config.xml files seem to be a total confusion.
Why not update ALL the GAME RAR's to 1.1.1 and
release them onto Xbins???
Will be very helpful..
Jammy_Stuff
Apr 25 2006, 10:18 PM
QUOTE(JustXploit @ Apr 25 2006, 09:43 PM)

These config.xml files seem to be a total confusion.
Why not update ALL the GAME RAR's to 1.1.1 and
release them onto Xbins???
Will be very helpful..
I could understand it easily.
krayzie
Apr 26 2006, 04:02 AM
QUOTE(JustXploit @ Apr 25 2006, 10:43 PM)

These config.xml files seem to be a total confusion.
Why not update ALL the GAME RAR's to 1.1.1 and
release them onto Xbins???
Will be very helpful..
Have you even read the readme?
RanCorX2
Apr 26 2006, 02:58 PM
I've read the readme, I have no extras folder in E:\Apps do i not need this update?
Jammy_Stuff
Apr 26 2006, 04:46 PM
QUOTE
I have 1.1 installed and want to update on the xbox:
1 *If you have the Extras installed in the Apps delete it
2 ftp over a new Extras folder to E:\Apps\
3 open the Extras root folder in your ftp client (E:\Apps\Extras\)
4 delete config.xml
5 ftp over the contents of the folder for your appropiate game (should be a config.xml and a updatefiles folder)
6 load the Extras via your apps and press update
Done
You need to make the extras folder
RanCorX2
Apr 26 2006, 04:54 PM
QUOTE(Jammy_Stuff @ Apr 26 2006, 05:53 PM)

You need to make the extras folder
done, can't find any "Update" option anywhere though
krayzie
Apr 26 2006, 05:22 PM
You need to use the extras folder from the 1.1 package
RanCorX2
Apr 26 2006, 05:46 PM
alright, gotcha. thanks.
JustXploit
Apr 29 2006, 02:42 PM
Could one of the Forum members do that pleeeeeeeez???
[please update the whole package to 1.1.1 and release onto XBINS, if not XBINS[if ur not an admin] use rapidshare pleez!]
Becz I donot want to mess up with my dashboard and experience an error 16 or somethin!!!
krayzie
Apr 29 2006, 03:13 PM
you have nothing to worry about. just follow instructions. It's really easy
JustXploit
May 1 2006, 09:47 PM
Alright, I want 2 do it by myself, Does anyone want 2 post illustrative/comprehensible screen

shots especially pointing to required folders and files/????
Else simply make the readme/NFO more easy to understand and give DETAILED instructions.... done.
Based on my sig... everyone know abt my xbox... PLEEEEZ help(upload updated installer to XBINS)!!!!!
krayzie
May 2 2006, 04:22 AM
QUOTE(JustXploit @ May 1 2006, 10:54 PM)

Alright, I want 2 do it by myself, Does anyone want 2 post illustrative/comprehensible screen

shots especially pointing to required folders and files/????
Else simply make the readme/NFO more easy to understand and give DETAILED instructions.... done.
Based on my sig... everyone know abt my xbox... PLEEEEZ help(upload updated installer to XBINS)!!!!!
If you don't understand the instructions you don't really need the update anyway. It's about as simple as replacing three files. How hard can it be. If you want it to be easy do it from the xbox after installing 1.1
nedge2k
May 5 2006, 09:05 AM
Just to warn others...
I had a serious problem with this update. I wanted to switch off the softmod to check the MS dash was seeing my HD AV cable and saving the settings properly but it wouldnt let me as it said i hadn't installed v1.1 basic, which i had. So i tried the add ms dash files but it said I hadnt installed minimal version...
F*ck it i thought, wipe the lot off and start again..so i did. When i re-installed (basic), i got to the "reboot/remove game to mount virtual c" bit and then i got error 21. So i tried minimal...error 21.
To cut a long sotry short, i had to del everything related to the ndure installer from the E: drive and the game save, then re-install the original gamesave via ftp (as the ms dash was f00ked). Eventually i got evox to boot as my dash. I then copied my pc backup of the ms dash over to the e: drive and removed the softmod. Then i re-installed it and now its all working fine.
If you plan to use this update make sure you have a clean backup of your c: drive, eprom and the v1.1 game save on your pc!
mrdan
May 7 2006, 02:50 AM
What exactly do you mean by on/off switch?
krayzie
May 9 2006, 03:31 PM
QUOTE(nedge2k @ May 5 2006, 10:12 AM)

Just to warn others...
I had a serious problem with this update. I wanted to switch off the softmod to check the MS dash was seeing my HD AV cable and saving the settings properly but it wouldnt let me as it said i hadn't installed v1.1 basic, which i had. So i tried the add ms dash files but it said I hadnt installed minimal version...
F*ck it i thought, wipe the lot off and start again..so i did. When i re-installed (basic), i got to the "reboot/remove game to mount virtual c" bit and then i got error 21. So i tried minimal...error 21.
To cut a long sotry short, i had to del everything related to the ndure installer from the E: drive and the game save, then re-install the original gamesave via ftp (as the ms dash was f00ked). Eventually i got evox to boot as my dash. I then copied my pc backup of the ms dash over to the e: drive and removed the softmod. Then i re-installed it and now its all working fine.
If you plan to use this update make sure you have a clean backup of your c: drive, eprom and the v1.1 game save on your pc!
The off switch failing has to do with you're xbox not being setup right. Maybe your xbox was modded before and your files got mixed up.
So to cut a long story short. If you're xbox was not properly modded out of a completely retail state and the off switch does not work do not attempt to fix it yourself or you will end up with errors like 21, 13 or worse 16
If something happens it's always wiser to completely restore the full xbox to completly retail and start over with a new save to ensure thngs do not get messed up.
@mrdan: The switch makes your xbox boot to a retail msdash so you can enter all live functions
Ndure protagonist
May 31 2006, 04:01 PM
krayzie; will there be a 1.1.1.1,
that warns users of 1.1 and 1.1.1 about their
potential risk of an XBL ban/suspension
(via "Live Aware", due to the modded/hacked MS dash
your 1.1 and 1.1.1[...] installs)?
krayzie
May 31 2006, 04:20 PM
Well there is a warning that the package was tested safe at time being. I cannot look in the future what will happen. I was also not the first to include a modified xbe with a patched back kernel in a package.
Also a potential risk for live bannings could exist on different stages. I also cannot guarantee people will never be banned using methods like dualbooting retail xbe's or coldbooting retail discs.
If it makes you sleep better I will ad an extra warning that for full safety they could use the off switch or uninstall the mod for maximum safety in a possible upcoming update.
Ndure protagonist
May 31 2006, 06:21 PM
None of that is relevant krayzie!
You clearly don't understand how the hacked MS 5960 xboxdash.xbe you install potentially interacts with XBL
.
.
.
maybe ask Angerwound (or devz3ro?) about that...
krayzie
May 31 2006, 06:38 PM
I surely can understand the edited xboxdash.xbe or xonlinedash.xbe interacts with live. My point is just even though that's the case it doesn't seem to have any effect on ms blacklisting those xboxes.
And fyi it was Angerwound who got me to use the hacked xbe's in the package after some debating how harmfull it could be since I had some doubts about it also.
But since you seem to exactly know how the xbe's interact and how MS performs it's checks please enlighten me with your superior knowledge so I can use it to improve my stuff.
DaddyJ
Jun 1 2006, 02:21 AM
Improving Live checks is just admitting serious flaws, more security is to be expected, specially with the recent finding in other m$ consoles.
Ndure protagonist
Jun 1 2006, 04:46 PM
krayzie, I was referring specifically to the xboxdash.xbe's "Live Aware" interaction with XBL (as indicated by my first post above) and ONLY YOUR 1.1[...] INSTALLER hacks that. Consequently, other Ndure installers (including your 1.0) don't have this potential risk.
I suspect this aspect of XBL usage wasn't discussed/debated, as you stated you were unfamiliar with it when related questions arose in your installer's thread. It pertains to an XBL connection that occurs via the Eject boot, under certain circumstances.
Swithing the softmod off and/or reverting to retail would of course workaround it, but that's not a solution. The fix is to use the real MS xboxdash.xbe for the open tray boot (instead of the krayzie 1.1[...] hacked version), as per the other Ndure installers!
krayzie
Jun 1 2006, 05:24 PM
Ok thanks for helping me understand. So you aim specifically at xboxdash.xbe? As you have noticed I don't have any clue about it's live functions (probably showing friends lists and pm's) or any live functions in general. I don't understand how a hacked xboxdash.xbe differs from a hacked xonlinedash.xbe as both of them interact with live. The kernel is still patched back to original and no-one seems to have been banned yet.
So you say you suspect more xbl checks in the near future for xbox1?
If it's a real potential risk I will offcourse disable it in an upcoming version. I'm always open for feedback/suggestions.
RamboULW
Jun 1 2006, 11:17 PM
Install went flawlessly!
I admit, took me awhile to understand your instructions, but was actually easy enough once figured out.
Explanation wasn't as detailed as it could be, but hey! good job none the less.
Nice one Krayzie!
krayzie
Jun 1 2006, 11:32 PM
@RamboULW: Sorry for the instructions. It may not be too n00b friendly but should be easy for a somewhat more advanced user. I made them in a kinda hurry.
@Ndure Protagonist: I think I might understand what you're getting at. I guess xbl comunicates via xboxdash.xbe with parts of the xboxdashdata folder which is renamed so that might be causing the problems showing the friends list etc. And since xboxdash.xbe is hacked to locate another xboxdashdata folder there might be conflicts which I guess you guess are a potential risk of xbox live banning.
I think I will adjust the package to use the normal xboxdashdata path to fix the friends lists problem and eliminate the possible potential risk of getting banned.
Tribb
Jun 8 2006, 09:17 AM
will It be possible to run extras from disk as I have to copy it over to the hdd to run and xbmc seems to have a prob deleting it afterwards, Ive updated the kit but to be honest It worked fine before from hdd anyway, I was hoping this fixed the launching from dvd, Im using Krayzie_SC-PAL_Ndure_Installer_v1.1.rar with the updated files, Thanks for your hard work on this it makes it oh so easy to softmod
krayzie
Jun 10 2006, 09:51 AM
it can oly be run from hdd and should be easily deletable.
mushroom92
Jun 27 2006, 05:14 PM
is this to get softmods with splinter cell and the action replay???
Epaige
Jul 9 2006, 02:03 AM
kgonepostl
Jul 17 2006, 05:16 AM
btw krazie. I did get banned using your softmod. I liked your softmod because of the layout. I was using kingroach ndure before yours and never was banned a day in my life. however that xbox was destroyed because of a psu problem and it was a 1.0
I'm pretty raging pissed seeing how you put together a poor installer. I did everything right. I know I did because I asked kingroach himself how to successfully uninstall everything and he confirmed that I did it correctly. I did a virgin swap of the c drive via slayers and all that good junk and removed the hack from the e partition. I even modified the led to go red when the softmod was active. I did a dual boot msdash and i made damn sure that the led wasn't red before connecting my ethernet and connecting to live via eject. I'm ashamed of you. I thought I was an isolated case so I didn't say anything in these forums.
I logged on live 1 time and 1 day later I was shitlisted. Now thx your "softmod" I have to buy another xbox. If your gonna make garbage and there is a high risk of getting banned you should put it in huge bold letters and not say "do at your own risk." that's horseshit. This is obviousely way out of your league.\
I would strongly advise staying away from this installer and going kingroach's method. I personally consider this package beta at most.
Textbook
Jul 17 2006, 06:22 AM
There is nothing wrong with this installer at all. Many people have used it without getting banned. Kingroach's Ndure and Krayzie's Ndure are based off the same exploits and softmod techniques. You took a risk when you softmodded your Xbox. There is always a possibility of getting banned from Xbox Live when you modify the Xbox.
krayzie
Jul 17 2006, 03:23 PM
I wonder if it's the softmod to blame. If ms had started a new banning method there should be much more people being banned right now. There are more factors to being banned or not.
You said you used another xbox. Wouldn't it be possible the problem lies in the xbox or upgraded hd or something?
kgonepostl
Jul 17 2006, 04:50 PM
I can't see how I would have been flagged but yes I did swap the drive from my old one. However I'm very sure I was never flagged on my old box so I don't see this as a problem. If you can think of anything that I've done wrong so I can avoid this in the future I'll gladly stop flipping out.
QUOTE(Textbook @ Jul 17 2006, 12:29 AM)

There is nothing wrong with this installer at all. Many people have used it without getting banned. Kingroach's Ndure and Krayzie's Ndure are based off the same exploits and softmod techniques. You took a risk when you softmodded your Xbox. There is always a possibility of getting banned from Xbox Live when you modify the Xbox.
That's horsecrap. ndure protagonist has pointed out problems in his hacked xboxdash.xbe
QUOTE
krayzie, I was referring specifically to the xboxdash.xbe's "Live Aware" interaction with XBL (as indicated by my first post above) and ONLY YOUR 1.1[...] INSTALLER hacks that. Consequently, other Ndure installers (including your 1.0) don't have this potential risk.
I suspect this aspect of XBL usage wasn't discussed/debated, as you stated you were unfamiliar with it when related questions arose in your installer's thread. It pertains to an XBL connection that occurs via the Eject boot, under certain circumstances.
Swithing the softmod off and/or reverting to retail would of course workaround it, but that's not a solution. The fix is to use the real MS xboxdash.xbe for the open tray boot (instead of the krayzie 1.1[...] hacked version), as per the other Ndure installers!
Followup from Krazie
QUOTE
@Ndure Protagonist: I think I might understand what you're getting at. I guess xbl comunicates via xboxdash.xbe with parts of the xboxdashdata folder which is renamed so that might be causing the problems showing the friends list etc. And since xboxdash.xbe is hacked to locate another xboxdashdata folder there might be conflicts which I guess you guess are a potential risk of
xbox live banning.
I think I will adjust the package to use the normal xboxdashdata path to fix the friends lists problem and eliminate the possible potential risk of getting banned.
Potential risk....Seems easily possible to me!
On top of that krazie has understood the problem and issued no warning. If I was krazie I would issue a big warning in red saying that you are at extreme high risk if you plan on using dual or tri boot with his softmod.....or recommend not using either at the moment until the problem is locked down.
Not to mention the on/off switch. What is the on/off switch? I'm really hoping it has nothing to do with xbl and on top of that wasn't implimented into 1.1. YOu mentioned that the on/off switch was now implimented in 1.1.1 update. Krazie, I'm really hoping that doesn't have anything to do with xbl safety because then i'll be really po'd. However if that is teh case then I guess I've figured out why I was banned! (was using 1.1 of the installer) and if the on/off switch has to do with disabling your mod with eject then that's dissapointing. However I'm probobly being paranoid and the on/off switch probobly has to do with uninstalling the softmod or something.
Fact is that there is a risk here and from what I understand an easy implimentation to fix that "small risk".
jabroniekilla
Jul 17 2006, 05:07 PM
you dumbass, there are plenty of warnings about being banned. just because you didnt get a private message saying be warned or you didnt get a phone call from krayzie.
obviously, you f'ed up and now you are sitting in the corner crying cause you can't get on live. Do yourself a favor and shut the hell up unless you need help. dont blame Krayzie for your shizz. he didnt make you do it.
kgonepostl
Jul 17 2006, 05:14 PM
QUOTE(jabroniekilla @ Jul 17 2006, 11:14 AM)

you dumbass, there are plenty of warnings about being banned. just because you didnt get a private message saying be warned or you didnt get a phone call from krayzie.
obviously, you f'ed up and now you are sitting in the corner crying cause you can't get on live. Do yourself a favor and shut the hell up unless you need help. dont blame Krayzie for your shizz. he didnt make you do it.
STfu honestly. The only real thing I'm trying to figure out is why his work isn't immediately corrected and a new warning hasn't been issued that's rhetorical btw. Don't give input.
It was his softmod that got me banned not me. Stop flaming stuff you don't understand alright? Jesus, the real thing I'm trying to figure out is if it was my mistake. I've come up with jack shit. And his installer is a big issue and a lot of people use it. So sorry for not wanting this to happen to ANYBODY else. How selfish of me right!?
Do me a favor. Ignore this post and don't followup because you swingin off krazies dick and flaming my posts isn't helping me solve anything. Got it?
kingroach
Jul 17 2006, 05:28 PM
did you get your old xbox hard drive and plugged the hard drive into a new xbox and went to live?.. ( I mean did you use one hard drive on two different xbox's?)..
krayzie
Jul 17 2006, 06:01 PM
QUOTE(kgonepostl @ Jul 17 2006, 05:57 PM)

I can't see how I would have been flagged but yes I did swap the drive from my old one.
Seems more obvious this is the reason you are banned. Funny how you talk about people that don't know what they talk about as you are the one spitting accusations and assumptions all over the place. Not only that you are the one that sounds like he doesn't know what he talks about but you do it it in a very childish manner also.
kgonepostl
Jul 17 2006, 06:03 PM
QUOTE(krayzie @ Jul 17 2006, 12:08 PM)

Seems more obvious this is the reason you are banned. Funny how you talk about people that don't know what they talk about as you are the one spitting accusations and assumptions all over the place. Not only that you are the one that sounds like he doesn't know what he talks about but you do it it in a very childish manner also.
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jul 17 2006, 11:35 AM)

did you get your old xbox hard drive and plugged the hard drive into a new xbox and went to live?.. ( I mean did you use one hard drive on two different xbox's?)..
Yes I did. However I of course flashed the new eeprom from the new box onto my old hard drive so that it would work? Why? Did this flag it? Is that the only thing you guys can come up with?
If it was flagged let me know how it could have been flagged. It's teh same eeprom. I'm guessing the hard drive serial was cross referenced and they banned me?
Idk I'm talkin out my ass in this post. Followup would help me avoid this in the future. Please go into detail if this was in fact my reason for being banned and how to avoid it.
^^^^
Yep I have no Idea what I'm talkin about right krazie?
Your softmod is still flawed. You've admitted to it.I may have been flagged but easily your softmod could have jacked it as well. It's 50/50 here. Fix it. Or issue a warning.
krayzie
Jul 17 2006, 06:09 PM
How in hell do you flash a new eeprom to an old hd? I think you are confused with locking the hd to the new eeprom.
As of now yes the is the only thing I can come up with. As for your quotes about me and Ndure Protagonist there are NO reports about new bannings whatsoever and the Potential risk what he talks about is potential and not HIGH and is not relevant at this time.
kingroach
Jul 17 2006, 06:13 PM
if you have one xbox connected to xbox live and you want to use the hard drive in a new xbox, you need to flash the new xbox with old xbox's eeprom and not the reverse as you did ( locked the hard drive with new eeprom). So, in xbox live logs they have one hard drive ( by serial number of hard drive) associated with two xbox ( two different serial)..When you lock hard drive with a new eeprom it only changes hard drives lock code but the serial remains.
krayzie
Jul 17 2006, 06:25 PM
QUOTE(kgonepostl @ Jul 17 2006, 07:10 PM)

Your softmod is still flawed. You've admitted to it.I may have been flagged but easily your softmod could have jacked it as well. It's 50/50 here. Fix it. Or issue a warning.
If you had any idea what you were talking about I would go into this discussion. But by the way you have proven yourself to someone not knowing much about eeproms/marriage theory/softmods and xboxes in general it's not even worth it.
The only warning I should give is to you and your immature behaviour. This is NOT allowed here so please do yourself and everone here a favor and stop it.
kgonepostl
Jul 17 2006, 06:41 PM
Obviousely the hard drive was the problem. it was my fault and I'm sorry for the flame.
I was wrong. But I still feel you need to issue a warning to the more inherint risk in your installer until the issue is fixed.
I'm sorry.
jabroniekilla
Jul 17 2006, 06:52 PM
QUOTE(kgonepostl @ Jul 17 2006, 01:48 PM)

Obviousely the hard drive was the problem. it was my fault and I'm sorry for the flame.
I was wrong. But I still feel you need to issue a warning to the more inherint risk in your installer until the issue is fixed.
I'm sorry.
you could try to figure stuff out by reading but goto staples and get the "easy" button. be careful though, if you throw it hard enough at a window it could break the window-staples was dumb enough not to put a big warning sticker on the button. those bastards.
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