Follow This: (THIS INSTRUCTION ARE FROM A FRIEND OF MINE THAT GOT IT WORKING)

we unpack the NME-360 kit into a directory eg: c:\nme360\

we rip the game (we will call it IMAGE.000 and save it (remember where)
we get the proper SS.BIN for that game (remember where it is)

we use SS MERGER v1.6 and we insert the SS.BIN into the IMAGE.000, this
makes it compatible with the xtreme FW hacks.

so now we have IMAGE.000 Patched for xtreme hacks and we still have our
proper SS.BIN

next we move/copy the IMAGE.000 and SS.BIN into the C:\nme360\ directory

and we just run convert.bat

then we will have a GAME.ISO made after convert.bat is done.
and it should be 7.705.657.344 bytes.

my friend uses cloneCD and tells clonecd to use GAME.DVD file to burn.
I use IMGBURN and do the exact settings from the NME-360 instructions:
Imgburn, make sure that the layer breakpoint is set to 1913760)
and i set it to that select the game and burn, come back 40 mins later and
its done.
burn at 2.4x.

also some games are not ripped with the video partition, and IMGBURN doesn't
like that, it give an error after you tell it to open the GAME.ISO. if this
is the case, then use this program in the .zip attached. IMGBPATCH.ZIP put
this in your C:\NME360\ directory too.

usage is IMGBPATCH.EXE <file> eg: IMGBPATCH.EXE GAME.ISO
you will have to do this dos prompt window but some people say if you DRAG
and DROP the GAME.ISO file onto (over) the the IMGBPATCH.EXE file, it will
highlight it let go of the file and it will execute as well.

it just corrects some bytes so IMGBURN will burn it now. I have had to do
that with a couple of titles i downloaded, but they work.
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as far as the proper SS.BIN best to make sure where you get them, if you
ripped them with teh samsung then you are good to go. hitachi has problems.
but i had SAINTSROW DEMO come up with a different number than what was in SS
MERGER database, and i just used what i had and it worked. so if your know
your SS.BIN is good then you shouldn't worry.
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he uses verbatim DVD+R DL, i use imation DVD+R DL, i believe its really
RICOH01 media, i will check in the morning for the exactly signature of the
media when i put it in).



*** MINE SAID UNRECOGNIZE MEDIA*** A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ANOTHER MESSAGE, WE NEED TO CONFIRM WITH MESSAGE IS FOR BAD MODCHIP AND WICH IS FOR A BAD BACKUP. lET START HERE IN THIS FORUM.

**IMPORTANT FOR PIONEER 111D USERS**


If you are one of the many people that has this burner, and plan to put this modchip in, you will have to get another burner. This burner will not proper burn the image to be compatible with NME-360 modchip, yeah i now it sucks, but this is the true and it have been teste by my self and other of my friends.




Thanks..

** OTHER TUTORIAL **

THANKS FOUNDMY


http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?s=&...t&p=3566372

Holy S@#$@% i haTe went people ask the same question over and over and dont do a serch. This is going TO be my last time helping a person that does not do a serch.



WENT YOURE DOING THE WXRIPPER METHOD TO GET THE GAME IMAGE, YOU HAVE TO:

1. OPEN WXRIPPER WITH THE MOVIE (PREFER MORE THAN 8GB) (LORD OF THE RING ETC.ETC.)

2. FIND THE MAGIC NUMBER

3. GO TO FILE, SAVE LAYOUT

4. GO TO THAT LAYOUT OPEN IT WITH NOTEPAD (IF YOU DONT NOW HOW, DAM YOU DONT NEED TO BE DOING THIS THEN)

5. THE FIRST 3 LINES YOU SEE THERE, CHANGE THE FIRST LETTER FROM "C" TO "D"

6. SAVE THE LAYOUT

7. OPEN THE LAYOUT WITH WXRIPPER (IN FILE MENU)

8. GET THE MAGIC NUMBER AGAIN (YOU STILL HAVE THE MOVIE IN THE DRIVE)

9. STOP SPIN DRIVE

10. "HOT SWAP" (YOU BETTER NOW WHAT THIS IS)

11. START SPIN

12. DUMP THE GAME

TARANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN AND NOW AT THE END OF ALL YOURE STEP YOU GOT TO DO FOR NME-360 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME SIZE OF ISO ALL THE TIME.

Your title is now changed. Unless I missed something startling you don't decide on what new topics are created or what goes where.
Also if you want to make a topic entitled questions and answers don't start moaning when people ask obvious stuff. they are bound to when you invite it with your title.

I thought Pioneer111D was better...
Which drive is better then? Cause most people are buying the Pioneer111D cause that one should be better or something...
I have a HP DVD DL WRITER 640B...

What about a PIONEER 109

First of all..thanks to katjausaf, myfound and nha for working to document a working backup procedure for folks with nme mods.

Here's what I have found through the 15 coasters I've managed to burn so far.

First off..my hardware mix
360 with hitachi drive (type 47) with NME 11 wire mod installed.

The burners (all with latest firmware):
HP DVD 640C burner - booktype DVD+R DL with IMGBURN, DVD-ROM with CDCLONE
Emprex DVDRW 16x burner - booktype DVD+R DL with CDCLONE or IMGBURN
Pioneer 111D - Not good at all..booktype is forced to DVD-ROM, but I've not had any luck with this drive.

The media:
Only Verbatium 2.4x DL disk.

The games:
Personal backups of Table Tennis, Prey, Rumble Roses XX, Blazing Angels..never got to DOA4

I can get disk that fall into 3 catagories - All original disk work fine btw.

1. Disk that boot up and show the "unreadable media" error. I believe most folks also refer to this as the "dirty disc" error. The drive appears to read the disk and try to spin up to speed, after several seconds of the 360 drive clicking and trying to read the backup it stops and displays this message. I've tried adjusting the laser resistance from 4.0K ohms all the way down to 2.6k ohms and have not been able to improve.

2. Disk that boot up and display the "to play this disc please insert it into an Xbox360. I notice these disk never really spin up really fast. I've read that this error means that you have not applied the SS correctly but that it's possible your NME mod is installed correctly.

3. Disk that produce an "open tray" error. These disk never appear to do anything..I've tried the HDD soft reset on these and nothing.

I do know how to specifically make all 3 flavors. Here's a summary:

To make a disk that falls into catagory 1 you follow the wxripper procedure (no edits to the layout), use SSmerge to verify your SS.bin is valid and use NME convert.bat to build the final game.iso file. When you burn (either imgburn or cdclone) you set the booktype to DVD-ROM (not DVD-R DL).

To make disk that fall into catagory 2 you follow the wxripper procedure (no edits to the layout), use SSmerge to verify your SS.bin is valid and use NME convert.bat to build the final game.iso file. When you burn (either imgburn or cdclone) you set the booktype to DVD+R DL (not DVD-ROM).

To make disk that fall into catagory 3 you follow the wxripper procedure editing the layer (first 3 lines have their first characters changed from C to D), use SSmerge to verify your SS.bin is valid and use NME convert.bat to build the final game.iso file. When you burn (either imgburn or cdclone) and setting the booktype to either DVD+R DL or DVD-ROM.

At this point I'm not sure what to think..I've ohmed out my mod install several times and believe it to be wired up correctly but there's no way I couldn't have at least one backup that would boot. I know I've follwed the exact procedures above and have not had any luck.

Anyways I wanted to share so we can build on the info we find. I'm not sure I'm willing to screw with this anymore till there's something more concrete or a new version of SSmerge is released. At this point I'm not sure the mod is working at all, but don't know.

If I think of anything else I'll update this message..thanks!

Thanks i do my best.

I am thinking to get mine out and wait for something better to come out. I try alot of stuff and here is a new problemi got into today.


I turn my xbox on with original game on it and it said, play dvd. I open the tray and close it and the game stat runing but i get a error messege on the screen. I open it and close it until finaly got it working.


Does anyone has this problems before with the modchip install and original games ???

thanks.

okey Ive seen alot of guides on how to convert a Xtreme image to NME 360 image.. but how the heck to I convert an NME 360 image to work with the Xtreme hacked dvd-drive? I just wasted a Verbatim disc cause I thought it would work anyways.. does anyone know?

Any help would be appreciated..

Thanks

Just use your original disk to make a new xtreme image.

haha.. come on man, you cold just say you didnt know, I dont support warez but what if my original disc is broken? =)

Kat, I can verify that one same issue with the original not working the first couple times happened to me as well but have not seen it since.

I also want to add that I don't feel one bit sorry for modding the drive. The way these drives read the disk (and rub the disk slightly making a potential coaster out of the Original) gives me all the more justification for making backups. Over time I can see rings forming around my disks without even touching the console while a disk is in. Unfortunatly I was just over the 90 day warrantee when I found this issue. Good work M$. I am another sucker.

sorry, just had to get that off my chest.

Tutorials for NME-360

Please check this link to find all the tutorials needed to make a successfull backup for NME-360
I can confirm that the Pionneer 111D is not able to make a working backup.

http://www.mod-area.com/tutorials.html

For any comments or improvements, email me. Thanks

You say that the pioneer doesn't burn backups for the NME. Does anyone have any success with other burners.

I burn with LG GSA-4163B

All backups working well

i got NEC DVD RW ND-3540A and Samsung drive on my XBOX 360 is backups will work with this burner and NME 360 installed ?

I have that burner and I was using FujiFilm DVD+R DL and tried many different ways to get a working NME-patched backup on my Samsung drive without any luck. I found out that it must have been the NME-360 modchip or the way I was patching the games because when I installed the Globe-360, all of my copies that I thought were coasters, worked perfectly.

I would say this burner can definitely burn good copies, and that I was probably not patching the games correctly.

I have a Sony DRU-810A and am using Memorex DVD +R burnt at 2.4x. I have an occasional issue with the game booting, but I just eject and reinsert and it usually begins working.



I have gotten this on a disc that I failed to place the appropriate breakpoint (which is always 1913760) into Imgburn. Once I inserted this value and reburnt, it worked fine.

I bought a LITE-ON just for burning my NME disks.

I've added more tutorials regarding the SH-D162C Samsung Drive

http://www.mod-area.com/tutorials.html

Can I use this modchip to recover a hitachi 47d drive that has had a bad flash?

NME-360 is not able to recover from bad flash

Bummer, I was hoping it would replace the existing firmware and allow the drive to function.

well, if you need to recover your firmware, let me know. if you got your original firmware file we can reprogram the your mainboard of the dvd drive back to factory standards.

www.foundmy.com

I have questions that are pretty easy to answer, i think.

1) How hard is the NME360v1.1 (for the samsung) to install?
2) Where are the most indepth instructions on how to solder the NME360 to the drive? I showed someone i know who can solder pretty well the instructions i saw on modarea, but he asked if there are more detailed instructions anywhere, so i'd love to find that.
3) If i want to remove the NME-360 from the board, is that difficult? or is it the same difficulty (if not easier) than installing it?
4) I have the ms28 firmware and ill be using the hacked firmware of the SH-D162C. If i just install the modchip, there are no other big issues i need to know about, right?

I hope this isnt too many questions and i hope they are easy to answer. Thanks in advance

1) easy only 4 wires. use the ALT points!

2) try the nme-360 main site as well.

3) not difficult to remove, since NO TRACES are CUT. and its only 4 points.

4) leave your original firmware on the xbox360 dvd drive and install and you are done.
and you can use the 162C for your backing up. more details at the nme-360 site.

Foundmy
North American distributor.

After closer looking (at both the tutorial on modarea and the team underdog site), i have noticed that you must solder four wires from the modchip to the four points (one just to the side of the modchip, two to the right of the SST chip and one on the other side of the board). Now i have no idea if the modchip comes with the four wires already soldered, but either way, i know they need to be connected to the spots shown on the modchip.

Now is that all? does the modchip just "rest" on the board? Or I hope thats not a noobish question. And yeah, if it just rests on there, then all i need to do to remove it would be to heat up the soldering points of the four wires connected to the drive, which im sure isnt that difficult

Im sure i may need future help if i decide to get this modchip, lol. But for now, i just have one about soldering. I've asked a similar question about this elsewhere, and i got replies that it was hard and could easily damage the dvd drive and that i have to "dremel" on the dvd drive board and i have to remove the eproxy. Is that correct? Or are those replies from people who just don't like the NME and may be trying to persaude me not to get one?

Some say its easy, some say its hard. im just confused Thanks a lot for your help so far though.

NME360 1.1 or NME360LE? Which is the easiest to install? What is the difference?

Well the NME 360 1.1 How I see it is really for the fewer wire counts with bug fixes. It depends which drive you have the NME-360 1.1 is out for the Hitachi and the Samsung. As for the LE is only for the Samsung.


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But My question is that I havnt been albe to burn a suscessful backup. I have tried using the wxRipper and then converting with Xbox SS Merger 1.7b then using CloneCD to burn it. Burned using the Pioneer 111D "Fw: 1.29"

But it sounds like the laser is skipping sometimes and I have got both "Open Tray" and "Insert in a Xbox 360".

And Was burning at 2.4x

I have a Hitachi 47

My NEC 3500AG burner worked fine.

First post says burning backups with a pio 111D will NOT WORK.

I have a Pio 110D and backups work fine.


Installing the NME V1.1 on a sammy is easy. I am a rookie, i had a mess about on broken PCBS to practice and just tried soldering etc to small locations.

The 4 Main points for the chip to work are pretty easy ... BUT :

(if ur a beginner/rookie) USE ALTERNATIVE POINTS 1 & 2 scrape away the epoxy with the soldering iron turned on, only scrape to the points u need (so bottom left left leg and 4rth leg up on the right of SST chip) and solder to these points, 5 and 6 are pretty easy I managed to solder all these points easily with a 0.1mm tip.

Fot the Network point you will need to use a smaller tip, i used a 0.01mm tip and after about 5 attempts
got a good strong clean connection.

I did not bother with the LED status because i didnt have the right torx screw lying about.

ANYHOW if ur a rookie, dont dive in , do some pratice, get used to the heat of the soldering iron. take it nice n slow. (n have a cuppa on the side to relax )

I saw that and thought that you can burn that with them now.

Has anyone had any luck with the Pioneer 111D drive?

And I have read about the Pioneer 111L Fw update?
Know anything about that?

Ok i've read this thread about 3 times and i cant find my answer...

I almost positive i have my chip installed correctly... checked it a few times with a meter as well...

However, when i put in a game it says 'reading' and then 'open tray'

anyone know if this means a bad burn? bad ss.bin? chip installed wrong? thanks

i have nme v1.1 with hitachi lg 47, NEC-3550, Verbatim media

Ok for all of you out there i can confirm that Pioneer 109 works and makes great working backups.
I have Samsung drive on the Xbox with NME 360 v1.1 and use Verbatim dual layer.
You dont have to change the booktype with v1.1
Also i read that you convert the iso and the ss with SS Merger.
DON'T DO THAT!!!!!
Thats the wrong way and it wont work!!!!!
you only use the SS Merger for cheking if you got a correct SS for your ISO!!!!
After that in the same directory put the ISO, change its name in IMAGE.000 and use convert bat (witch you putted in the same directory as the ISO and the SS) who will pach them to be compatible with NME.
At the end you will have GAME.ISO and GAME.DVD files. The GAME.ISO file must be 7.17gigs after conversion, and before it about 7.5...
Than open Clone CD, find the GAME.DVD file and burn it...
You may notice that the .dvd file created by wxripper you dont need!!!!
Burn it and you are finished.
This way works for me every backup that i make form my original games....
Good Luck!!!

Im looking to get this chip installed!!! Does anyone know if this burner will burn playable DL discs???

Lite-on dvdrw sohw-16335

Hi, has anyone had any luck with this combination with the NME360 V1.1?

Hitachi GDR-3210L with Rom 47DH

Pioneer 110 and Verbatim DVD+R dl's

I see posts that back ups burned with the Pioneer 110 are working with the Samsung drive... but I cannot get this combination to work with the Hitachi...

If you have the V1.1 chip, it should work fine.

If you have the v1.1 chip and it is properly installed, it will work with any burner as long as you follow the procedures EXACTLY as they are on the team underdog website.

I would recheck my installation if I were you. I myself was so certain that I had done everything correctly, but the number 1 point wire (on the underside) never had a good connection. I soldered it straight onto the chip and it all works fine now.

Thank you for replying IMI_II_IK_IE.

From what I am reading in the forums the NME360 does not work period with back ups burned by the Pioneer 111 burner. The NME360 people claimed the chip worked with this drive and as of right now it does not. That is why I was checking to see if anyone had luck with the Pioneer 110 and the Hitachi 47DH. I can certainly understand a bad solder point. No combination will work with that.

I have already triple checked my solder points and all are fine.

I also am certainly not going to buy a cheaper burner for the NME360. My stack of coasters seems to be pointing to reflashing the Hitachi with the OPA Xtreme v2.1 Hitachi-LG Firmware 7in1 which I know works with the Pioneer 110. I wanted to avoid doing this but it looks like I have no choice.

The intent of the NME360 was good but the fact that it doesn't work with best burner the Pioneer 111 and most likely my 110 as well seems like complete waste of time and money. If the NME360 can provide a simple firmware flash to the Pioneer burners that's fine but if the modchip need to be reflashed it's hittin' the trash...

Simple formula

Samsung + nme modchip + pioneer 111d = working

firmware moded samsung + pioneer 111d = working

Hitachi + nme modchip + pioneer 111d = none working backups

firmware modded hitachi + pioneer 111d = working

Support = nill @ moment from team underdog after 3 weeks of emails without any responses


ALl i rememebr is when nme 1.1 released was stated life gets easier for 111d owners which apparently is not so.

Hey all.

I just got my nme360 v1.1 and started to solder wires to the pcb. However, I can't get the points 1 & 2 to stick. How would I solder a wire to those points. They don't seem to be metal.

I use a standard soldering iron with a solder wire made for electronics.

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated!

I would check the install on the hitachi drive. If the backups work in the samsung but not hitachi, its not the burner.



I had the same problem. I ended up taking the epoxy off and using the alt. points on the eeprom.

Thanks for the reply.

I was thinking the same thing, but I was afraid that the eeprom would be easily damaged if I was a bit careless removing the epoxy and so on.

A sub-question:
If I have managed to brick my drive. Should I buy a new samsung or hitachi then?

From what I understand, if you have managed to brick your dvd drive, you are screwed, unless you can backup your current drive and clone a new one.

About the epoxy.... there was a video put on the XS frontpage a couple of days ago on how to do it. It looks very simple, if you have a heat gun.

Anyone having weird problems with Memorex DL backups? My NME chip works flawlessly and my backups worked for a while as well. All of a sudden my backups of my most frequently played games started acting funny. sometimes they would load, work for a while then freeze and eventualy I'd get the 'Unrecognized Disc, please clean' message. Other times they wouldn't load at all. Is there something wrong with Memorex media that causes it to rapidly degrade or something? The discs barely have any scratches on them. I'm considering switching to Verbatim media but I don't want to fork out money for Verbatim media if the Memorex's aren't the real problem. The backup I play the least still works flawlessly.

Also of note, it could be a coincidence, but all my problems started after I started playing the latest demo disc (Rainbow Six Vegas) from OXM.

i can't seem to fins the diagrams for network shutoff and the led where did you get them

They are on the install page

Points 10 and 11 on diagram

Ok i have the NME 1.1 chip and it works great !!

But what i can't figure out is why it shuts down the nic in the 360 when a backup game is insterted !!
(no problems with orignials)

any tips/tricks ?

maybe the guy who put it in connected a few to much wires... if so wich once ?

tnx in advance

ok, i've done everything the team underdog website over and over, step by step and all i'm getting when i put the backup in my chipped drive is "this disc is dirty".

i've tried different ways of burning it, i dont know what else to try anymore...

can anyone help me?
does it matter which burner i use if i already have used the Samsung SH-D162 drive to extract the image...

any help would be much appreciated.
thanks in advance

has anyone gotten an e64 after installing a 1.1 hitachi chip?