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jhonny86
Now I remember why I hated this game so much. The computer (espcially RYU) is a cheessen MOFO.

Definetion of cheessen= Same 2 or 3 moves constantly, that you can do absolutely nothing agianst. Except get your butt kicked. It makes me sick to know that I paid about $10 bucks for this piece of crap.
miggidy
So the game sucks because you suck?
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I for one can't wait to get home to drop 10 bones on this and get my SF2 fix!
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gcskate27
for some reason the 1st opponent after the car bonus(and every one thereafter) is a complete cheap ass bastard... somehow able to get through blocks and virtually always win a air to ground or air to air attack, couple that with the d-pad randomly punchin for a fireball and jumping for any other move and it gets a bit frustrating... ryu, ehonda, guile, blanka, fuck even zangief are abs bastards, no charge moves and 100% spinning piledrivers... dry.gif

online is much better when you get a good connection, much more fair...


try the emu of sf2t and see how the difficulty (read 'cheapness') stacks up... its not even close...
CreziB
computer doesn't bother me, it's the people that remind me of the arcade tournemant days that does.

Chun Li and E. Honda

You wanna win in a "cheesen" way, pick those two.
gcskate27
ehonda yes, as he can move forward with his 1000 hand slap move, chun li not so much...

guile and dhalsim, when used to their full potential, piss me off to no end...

thinking about it, sf2 has been the game that has pissed me off the most in my life... trying to beat the original sf2 on the snes with fucking sagat doing nothing but fireballs and tiger uppercuts when jumping in and then having to face the man of cheese himself, motherfucking m. bison... grr.gif
Tripme
haha, i downloaded the demo to see if i would like this game after not playing since i was like 10. All i could fuckin do was ryu's fireball cause thats all the other cheap ass would do. I hate fighting games. I am amazed at anyone who is good at one. tongue.gif
Maverick0984
jesus christ i am horrible at this game
CreziB
HAHA, I'm a hypocrit gamer I guess. I now fight fire with fire. I chose E. Honda 7 straight times in ranked matches, and I won 7 straight times. Imagine that.
gcskate27
i can decimate most anyone choosing ehonda with ryu, ken or sagat (probably guile as well)... i just need a fucking decent controller... grr.gifgrr.gifgrr.gifgrr.gifgrr.gifgrr.gifgrr.gifgrr.gifgrr.gif
p3eps
I used to play this on my Famicom and beat it on level 7 no problems.
Yesterday it took me 36 tries to beat the game on level 3!
Is it just me or is it much harder than any other version?!
I dunno how the hell you're supposed to get the achievement where you have to complete the game without losing a round - or the perfect one... even on level 1!

Controller sucks - I find myself using the analogue one as its easier for moves. Need a SNES pad!!
twistedsymphony
I don't know what everyone's problem is my saturn controller works fine tongue.gif
Sc4rfac3
this is a really hard game but i still love it
miggidy
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Aug 3 2006, 02:35 PM) *

I don't know what everyone's problem is my saturn controller works fine tongue.gif


You lucky dog sleep.gif

I'm in the process of finishing my SF2 Anniversary stick mod (ran into some problems trying to connect the analog triggers).
Once I'm finish with it, it's gonna be on! tongue.gif

Surprisingly, the X360 controller does a much better job than I anticipated.
I'm able to pull of a few dizzying combos with relative ease.
But I'll admit it, at the current setting (3rd star) the difficulty is a little higher than normal.
Looks like Capcom stole a page from Team Ninja's dev manual laugh.gif
Dalpura
I set the difficulty right down and I can only win the first round of the first match in arcade -- no matter what. I just get fucking spammed with bullshit attacks and can't do anything because I don't have time to in later matches. Don't know if I just suck or what, but it seems far too hard.
pennywisdom
QUOTE(Dalpura @ Aug 4 2006, 08:26 AM) *

I set the difficulty right down and I can only win the first round of the first match in arcade -- no matter what. I just get fucking spammed with bullshit attacks and can't do anything because I don't have time to in later matches. Don't know if I just suck or what, but it seems far too hard.

im totally with you on that one. although i do seem to be getting a bit better with that zangief guy. his moves are pretty damn simple to pull off.
gcskate27
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p3eps
I've noticed that you can cancel and change your player after the other person picks theirs.
I generally pick Ken... but if the other person picks E Honda, Chun Li, M Bison or Blanka I change and pick the same as them! Then just do the same 1 move / button bash that they do. 50 / 50 chance of winning that way instead of being stuck in a corner and hand slapped to death!!
gcskate27
e-hondas the only one of those thats hard to beat... and he wouldnt be anywhere near as bad if the d-pad was reliable... if you get stuck in a corner do an air hurricane kick to get out, then just keep blasting different speed fireballs and dragon punch his bitch ass sumo splash's...

ive not faced a good player playing ehonda, just cheap ass ones... now good players picking dhalsim and sagat fucking suck, so goddamn difficult to beat...
dgrams2003
QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Aug 5 2006, 12:50 AM) *

ive not faced a good player playing ehonda, just cheap ass ones...


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"cheap cheap cheap" that's all I've ever heard since SFII was born.

Every character's "cheap" moves as you call them can all be countered
by some technique. Its just a matter of learning how to get around them.

Anyone who complains about someone being 'cheap',
just is not a good fighter.

There is no better feeling than having someone whoop everyone's ass for 10-15 games,
and then finally figuring out the strategy to beat them. And once you figure out that strategy,
you find out that they are a "one time wonder"

Its boring breaking records and winning game after game after game. Beating a smart ass
at their own game... Now thats fun! biggrin.gif
gcskate27
apparently you didnt read the entire post... i stated EXACTLY the method for ryu and ken that you should use to beat CHEAP e-honda users... however, and also previously mentioned, this is not easily done with the crap d-pad of the default controller...

personally im getting a sf2 stick and modding it to work with the 360...
p3eps
Beating Chun Li with Ryu or Ken is simple really if you can pull off a dragin punch every time - but given the state of the D-pad, its probably a 1/4 chance of me managing it!
Thats why I just pick the same character and play them at their own game!

There are so many folk going about who win loads of games but probably dont know any special moves... jump kick, jump kick who are difficult to beat!

I'm still convinced that level 3 on the 360 is MUCH harder than the original arcade!
dgrams2003
QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Aug 5 2006, 07:36 AM) *

apparently you didnt read the entire post... i stated EXACTLY the method for ryu and ken that you should use to beat CHEAP e-honda users... however, and also previously mentioned, this is not easily done with the crap d-pad of the default controller...

personally im getting a sf2 stick and modding it to work with the 360...


You are correct, my apologies. I did not read the entire post.
I have 'selective reading' (I'm seeing a doctor about this)
and for some reason the words "cheap" stick out like they are in bold type. Hahah! jester.gif

Sorry again.


QUOTE(p3eps @ Aug 5 2006, 08:33 AM) *

Beating Chun Li with Ryu or Ken is simple really if you can pull off a dragin punch every time - but given the state of the D-pad, its probably a 1/4 chance of me managing it!
Thats why I just pick the same character and play them at their own game!

There are so many folk going about who win loads of games but probably dont know any special moves... jump kick, jump kick who are difficult to beat!

I'm still convinced that level 3 on the 360 is MUCH harder than the original arcade!


Yes, I fired up Hyper Fighting on my MAME Arcade machine,
Daves Showcae and once I got past 2 or 3 opponents
and then it got REAL hard. (On the arcade machine's DEFAULT settings) Harder than I remember.
And I'm a veteran player, (very good at most if not all the characters) playing on actual arcade controls.

Now, I'll admit that I've played the heck out of just about all versions of SFII,
EXCEPT the Hyper Fighting edition. I didn't care for the speed-up that much so I stayed away
from it, so maybe this one in particular is a little 'harder' or when it comes to fighting against the computer.


--by the way-- When challenging someone, is there a way to modify the 'speed' of the game during character selection, or the power of damage? (on the 360)
I know you could do this on the Arcade version of Super SFII: New Challengers - turbo
but I don't have much HF experience.
thetrash
The jump close to them and hard kick the wrong side of them is always good, you have to block the wrong way to stop the hit. Ken is the cheapest character as his dragon punch beats everything and fireball/small dragon punch is pretty good if you can do it everytime.
Legendary Badass
Chun Li is one of the few fighters I can win with. I used to be great with all of them but many of them have clearly been adjusted. Guile is now a lot better. He has a mid air backbreaker that used to be impossible to pull off. I had probably seen it twice ever. Just the first night of playing this version I did it 5 times! But back to Chun Li. She has highly unique kicks. Pressing forward and hard kick when against a still opponent lets you jump in the air and kick them in the back. Humans almost never block this. On top of that you can bounce on E.Honda's head 3 times before reaching the ground. Still, Blanka is super cheap. He can nullify most attacks by going electric. He also has a high priority spin attack that can be charged while being electric.
Maverick0984
i have absolutely no idea how to play this game well, i need a tutorial site or something :-/
Dalpura
QUOTE(Maverick0984 @ Aug 10 2006, 05:17 AM) *

i have absolutely no idea how to play this game well, i need a tutorial site or something :-/

You and me both. I've tried playing it a few more times since I posted and I still can't do it. sad.gif
VinnySem
Whew I'm glad I'm not the only one that's hard a hard time not-sucking at this game. I finally beat it on 3, only lost 4 rounds the entire way through. Damn Dragon punch is a bitch to pull off with this controller, I used to be able to nail it effortlessly on SNES.

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