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henix
Is it possible to take out the processors (3 powerpc? 3.2ghz each) and in someway use them as processors on the computer. Maybe its stupid, but that would be a triple core pc biggrin.gif
Reaper527
i'm not going to go into details as to why (other then the fact that there is no motherboard that would support it), but no. its not possible.
henix
can u use 2 of the processors ? im really annoying right tongue.gif ??
nekkron99
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henix
Well this is just thoughts, if u take out the motherboard with the triple core, put in some normal ram and a video card would that work? probably not because motherboard firmware isnt supporting that right? and you can't hack it because its encrypted? But if you somehow could hack the firmware in the motherboard and replace it with some pc-based motheboard firmware you would have a kickass PC.
Runningfrenzy
I'll just repost this to explain the second question...
QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Aug 8 2006, 05:22 PM) *

i'm not going to go into details as to why (other then the fact that there is no motherboard that would support it), but no. its not possible.

grim_d
QUOTE(henix @ Aug 8 2006, 11:26 PM) *

can u use 2 of the processors ? im really annoying right tongue.gif ??


you do realise it's a triple CORE processor, not 3 seperate processors.
snow rider221
this thread made me lol tongue.gif
Calibos
Hello Mr Brick.....Meet Mr. Wall
pbkill
If you are a tech god yes. But to take them out and put them on a regular mobo you would have to make some sort of an adaptor socket.
henmill
sorry dude. never gonna happen ever ever ever.

buy an ultra high-end amd dual core processor, throw in a gig here a gig there of ram, toss around a few nvidia 7900-whatevers, (not to mention a fancy shmancy mobo) and you'll have yourself a nifty pc that'll out hustle a 360 any day.




wonder if anyone's put this in the comedy forum yet.......
IAmCanadian
the 360's cpu is BGA (ball grid array) meaning there are little balls of solder attatched to the cpu during manufacturing via sticky soldering paste, and then placed onto the mobo, and put into an oven for a certain time allowing the solder to melt and basically solder the cpu to the mobo.

making removal very very hard.
epsilon72
This thread is hilarius laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Maybe I can figure out a way to solder my 7800gtx to my 360 mobo and get 1080p resolution from the increased power jester.gif


No offense intended, I was just highly amused by the concept.

Nice avatar IAmCanadian. smile.gif
IAmCanadian
You guys need to stop making fun of him.

Not everyone on earth is a computer expert and knows how everything works.
sicknasty413
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Aug 9 2006, 12:08 AM) *

You guys need to stop making fun of him.

Not everyone on earth is a computer expert and knows how everything works.

Yeah i 2nd that..

But oh man, i giggled.
sinister slipknot
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Aug 9 2006, 04:08 AM) *

You guys need to stop making fun of him.

Not everyone on earth is a computer expert and knows how everything works.


Exactly, and it's not one of the most stupidest things said here on XS either.
neoed30
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Aug 9 2006, 12:08 AM) *

Not everyone on earth is a computer expert and knows how everything works.


Ain't that the truth. It would be nice if there was more people in the world who knew what they were doing though. wouldn't it?
It's always good to learn new things though. You gotta start somewhere.

QUOTE(Calibos @ Aug 8 2006, 09:00 PM) *

Hello Mr Brick.....Meet Mr. Wall


Exactly what I was thinking. jester.gif
No harm meant.
Gamer_from_2080
Sadly no. Im sorry but I thought your concept was funny. I wonder if I can take the copper trails from the mobo and eat them as speghetti. You know with a lil marinara. Just kidding dude. I couldnt resist. happy.gif
nekkron99
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Aug 8 2006, 09:08 PM) *

You guys need to stop making fun of him.

Not everyone on earth is a computer expert and knows how everything works.

Yeah, but come on...the guy even knew he was being annoying, which means he knew that he was asking a recockulous question.
henix
Of course I knew it was a stupid question ^^ But I just wondered if it was in any way possible. So stop making fun of me tongue.gif
mattyv
henix,
I'm not going to grill you on the post (looks like you had enough) but, if you do try this, I got dibs on your DVD drive. biggrin.gif
jabroniekilla
I have to add my dose of comedy:
Maybe the guys from Pimp My Ride could make it work. Call Xzibit.
nekkron99
QUOTE(jabroniekilla @ Aug 24 2006, 12:08 PM) *

I have to add my dose of comedy:
Maybe the guys from Pimp My Ride could make it work. Call Xzibit.
What? Was that the infant sized dosage? Call Chappelle.
mavsfan
Looking at the thread name at first I thought someone may have acctually tried that. Now it just makes me laugh. laugh.gif Doesnt hurt to ask though smile.gif
sn0wy
I feel dumber after reading this thread.
bigjimmy
me too. Although I did know that little fact on how they actually attach the cpu to the mobo. Quite clever.
Viva La Sam
guys of course this is funny but calm down. i know at this point in time it is impossible but think about the future. i know this is an XBOX forum but there is a similar instance to the PSP (no im not the Sony fanboy from gamespot, but i know him). people claimed downgrading a 2.0 was impossible until a hack came out. then they said that there is no way in hell 2.5/2.6--1.50 is possible but look now. so what seems impossible now, might be possible in a few years.

but im just gonna sit back like this ---> pop.gif and watch how this plays out. and please dont kill me for the Sony comment. i own 3 XBOXs, a 360, and a dusty old PS2 for a few games. i love my XBOXs more than anything.
maha_x
Just to give you a solid answer, no. Because even if you magically worked out all the hardware compatibility issues the CPU would still be a RISC based PowerPC chip (the type of chips macs used to use). I know it says "PC" in the name but infact that architechture uses complitely different code language and it's different endian. So any PC software would seem like gibberish written in backwards to the 360 CPU.

Unless you get hold of a 360 SDK system, which presumably runs a PowerPC version of windows and visual studio. But it'd still be hard to find any apps for it...
scbandit4
OMG NO! MY IQ DROPPED 3 POINTS!
pbkill
Taking the cores out is the wrong direction. Looking for a way to hack the 360 and run linux/Power PC windows would be the way to go.

Sooner or later it will happen.
xXP-UnitXx
jester.gif
QUOTE(nekkron99 @ Aug 24 2006, 12:23 PM) *

What? Was that the infant sized dosage? Call Chappelle.


IM RIIIICH BIOOOTCHH! jester.gif
clerks37
QUOTE(Calibos @ Aug 9 2006, 02:00 AM) *

Hello Mr Brick.....Meet Mr. Wall



laugh.gif
bucko
QUOTE

and put into an oven for a certain time allowing the solder to melt and basically solder the cpu to the mobo.


Do they put a pizza in the oven at the same time as well? jester.gif

Don't worry even I went through a funny time once asking silly questions. We all do it...
TheSpecialist
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Aug 9 2006, 06:03 AM) *

the 360's cpu is BGA (ball grid array) meaning there are little balls of solder attatched to the cpu during manufacturing via sticky soldering paste, and then placed onto the mobo, and put into an oven for a certain time allowing the solder to melt and basically solder the cpu to the mobo.

making removal very very hard.


Well, it's possible smile.gif

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DrMadVibes
Can I remove my XBOX 360 CPU and put it in my Commodore 64 so I can run my games faster? .. hahah..

Closed way making your XBOX run like a pc is *lux OS project.. see other posts.
Filtrated
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Aug 9 2006, 05:03 AM) *

the 360's cpu is BGA (ball grid array) meaning there are little balls of solder attatched to the cpu during manufacturing via sticky soldering paste, and then placed onto the mobo, and put into an oven for a certain time allowing the solder to melt and basically solder the cpu to the mobo.

making removal very very hard.


uhh.gif

Put it back in an oven to melt the solder off?
Da Mafia
I would of thought that putting it in an oven hot enough to melt the solder would damage the components.
OpticNurv
QUOTE(Da Mafia @ Oct 28 2006, 04:14 PM) *

I would of thought that putting it in an oven hot enough to melt the solder would damage the components.


well, all options considered you could try a hot air gun, but of course that could get very complicated, very quickly
karnak
Dude it aint gonna happen. You would have to practically build a mobo that would support the CPU socket AND there is no way you would get it to run considering the GPU is a chip and there are no PCI, AGP, or PCI-E sockets so no way of getting a graphics card.. Unless you can build a Xenos compatible motherboard with custom firmware that would support a PCI-E 3D card.. BTW this is beyond pratically everyone unless you are a computer hardware engineer or a VERY VERY good programmer....

Just forget about it and play some games biggrin.gif
Aicd
i question the l33t skillz of some of the people roasting this guy. lots of people jumping on the bandwagon that think they are engineers after putting their uber sweet gaming machine together.







Aicd
DV8ORMODS
well if there were anyone out there who could do this it would be the design team of the xbox 360,
and seeing that they have all the tools necessary to make an xbox it very unlikely they would even do it.
this thread goes to show how mans ideas out weigh ther technical abilities
X-hacker
Just remember, everyone's allowed to have 'A Blonde Day' every so often (or in some cases, Ginger) rolleyes.gif
sentinel0
How is this thread still alive, I contribute it to very lazy mods. Anyway this will never work even if you did have a motherboard for it this PPC processor for the simple fact that the processor it's self it hard coded to work with components and GPU found only on the 360 motherboard not to mention the architectural reasons that I care not to divulge in.
jcdenton2003
Jesus dude
Millenia1x
what a waste of time
Methadon
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Aug 9 2006, 05:03 AM) *

the 360's cpu is BGA (ball grid array) meaning there are little balls of solder attatched to the cpu during manufacturing via sticky soldering paste, and then placed onto the mobo, and put into an oven for a certain time allowing the solder to melt and basically solder the cpu to the mobo.

making removal very very hard.


Actually, removal is pretty easy if you have the right tools. Goto your local electronics shop; There's plenty of ways to de-solder chips by hand, as well as easily re-solder them.
Methadon
QUOTE(sentinel0 @ Dec 19 2006, 02:35 AM) *

How is this thread still alive, I contribute it to very lazy mods. Anyway this will never work even if you did have a motherboard for it this PPC processor for the simple fact that the processor it's self it hard coded to work with components and GPU found only on the 360 motherboard not to mention the architectural reasons that I care not to divulge in.


I disagree. While the components it comes with may be the only ones it uses out of the box, we already know it has potential with the USB ports. We can also swap DVD drives simply by making sure the key is in there. We can stick with the CPU/GPU. RAM upgrade might be hard, but then again, it could be as simple as desoldering the RAM chips on the board, and replacing them.
sentinel0
Methadon your an idiot I'm sorry did you not understand anything I wrote the cpu is a special cpu built just for the 360 it is a modified version of the PPC processor it requires special encrypted boot rom to even start up the cpu much less just make it work on another motherboard "if" you could find a 899 pin BGA mobo which i don't think exist wait the 360 mobo. Going at the fact you pull a board out of your ass and you hacked the 2048bit SHA-1 key and wrote a boot loader to start the cpu's you would have to be phenomenal at porting a PPC flavor of linux. The GPU would have limited access because you would need special drivers to make it work. Yeah the ddr ram is pretty standard I suppose if you felt like it you could solder it to a stick but why ddr is pretty cheap stuff. So good luck with this try doing some reading before posting your dumb ass comments. And about the USB no shit USB is USB it's called a standard and for it to work you go by it. The thing about the drives it does work in a pc woopdy do this thread is about the CPU/GPU ever working in a PC. Please don't post again until you learn what the hell your talking about. Thank you. Have a nice day.
Millenia1x
this thread is still alive
removing a BGA type cpu will almost always do considerable damage to the chip and the board UNLESS you are a true expert at de-soldering circuits AND requires some VERY expensive machines to do even that for someone who might be an expert but not sure they can do it
and to make things harder I'm pretty sure its a FBGA type which makes even that near impossible
i guess you have an 899 pin BGA motherboard in your dreamland also

i guess i can take 360 cpu and put in in my classic pong game

WTF

can somebody get a mod on this thread

don't bother asking about the ps3 cpu either

jonlewi5
wow thats ten minutes of my life i will never get back sleeping.gif lol, anyway, i can seee where he is coming from but i *think* he maybe new to the 360 and came from an xbox1 as it had the regular celeron chip, but even so it really is a daft idea but hey we are all entitled to make "could this work"threads as if we didnt we would never get anywhere and would still be living in caves lol
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