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tipton_06
IM GONNA HAVE TO GO WIT LIL WAYNE!! smile.gif
makaveli91
Top dog right now, Jay Z. Next is Eminem, Then Nas, Kanye West, Rakim. Top 5 in my books.
throwingks
Who's the best rapper, me ya back-stabber.
That's the thing, I reign King, of the xbox-scene.
When I do the scene, I do my thing
I'm leavin postses that are the dopest
You can't compete, ya best hit ctrl-alt-delete
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Wolves
^Welcome to the best of X-S laugh.gif



There is no good rapper because there's no good rap.

killerbootsman
M-E-T-H-O-D MAN!
CattyKid
Mr. Shakur! He lives biggrin.gif

No... but I think it's Eminem... not his stupid stuff though like FACK... I think that's shit. Stuff like Haley's Song.

Then.. hm... although I haven't heard much I'd say Immortal Technique seems good... I need to find some more of it though I think it's on iTunes.
makaveli91
QUOTE(throwingks @ Oct 14 2006, 07:09 AM) *

Who's the best rapper, me ya back-stabber.
That's the thing, I reign King, of the xbox-scene.
When I do the scene, I do my thing
I'm leavin postses that are the dopest
You can't compete, ya best hit ctrl-alt-delete
laugh.gif


When i read that, i immediately thought of B-Rad from Malibu's Most Wanted. Sounds like something he'd be saying.


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No... but I think it's Eminem... not his stupid stuff though like FACK... I think that's shit. Stuff like Haley's Song.



Even his songs where he is stupid on usually have something he's saying. Fack is one that is just stupid though. Most of the general public listens to his singles that get a lot of radio play and hear the joking aspect and leave it at that.
CattyKid
QUOTE(makaveli91 @ Oct 14 2006, 01:51 PM) *

Even his songs where he is stupid on usually have something he's saying. Fack is one that is just stupid though. Most of the general public listens to his singles that get a lot of radio play and hear the joking aspect and leave it at that.

Yeah, I agree.
I take it, by the username, you either like Tupac or are a fan of philosophers, huh?
Ever listen to Words are Weapons (Eminem, from Shade 45)? One of my favorite Eminem songs, along with Rock Bottom.
makaveli91
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I take it, by the username, you either like Tupac or are a fan of philosophers, huh?


A whole lot of column A, and a little of column B.. lol


Rock Bottom is one of my fav's too, along with If I had. Words are weapons is good too.
throwingks
Rap isn't my favorite genre but I do listen to it. Kanye West should not be on the list you made. That is like an S.A.T. question. Which rapper doesn't belong?
CattyKid
QUOTE(throwingks @ Oct 14 2006, 02:29 PM) *

Rap isn't my favorite genre but I do listen to it. Kanye West should not be on the list you made. That is like an S.A.T. question. Which rapper doesn't belong?

Lol. I agree.
woofis
eminem is my favorite...the way he can put words together is insane. as for commercial rap like stuff i can listen to at partys and stuff id hafta say 50 cent
makaveli91
QUOTE(throwingks @ Oct 14 2006, 12:29 PM) *

Rap isn't my favorite genre but I do listen to it. Kanye West should not be on the list you made. That is like an S.A.T. question. Which rapper doesn't belong?


Why do you say Kanye shouldn't be on my list?

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eminem is my favorite...the way he can put words together is insane. as for commercial rap like stuff i can listen to at partys and stuff id hafta say 50 cent


50 Cent? I guess everyone has their likes and dislikes. I mean, 50 was good when he first came out and with Get rich or die trying (CD, not the movie), then he just... Nosedove. I dunno. I used to like him. Now i don't.
biggieandmoe
QUOTE(makaveli91 @ Oct 14 2006, 05:33 PM) *

Why do you say Kanye shouldn't be on my list?


I think it's because of what he said about Bush. Plus, they may be talking about Kanye's attitude instead of his lyrics. His lyrics are great.
makaveli91
QUOTE(biggieandmoe @ Oct 14 2006, 07:47 PM) *

I think it's because of what he said about Bush. Plus, they may be talking about Kanye's attitude instead of his lyrics. His lyrics are great.


I'm sure there are other people and celebs that have said worse about Bush. They likely care a little too much about their image to actually say anything. Kanye's a little cocky, but i mean, he is one of the go to guys for beats. He was given the shaft before he got big, and now the same dudes are going to him for music. Can you blame him?
CattyKid
QUOTE(biggieandmoe @ Oct 14 2006, 09:47 PM) *

I think it's because of what he said about Bush. Plus, they may be talking about Kanye's attitude instead of his lyrics. His lyrics are great.

Well, let's quote a little Eminem then, shall we?

Quote, "We As Americans (Encore Bonus CD, hmm.. first song(?))"
"I don't rap for dead presidents. I'd rather see the president dead. It's never been said but I set precidents."

Quote "Rain Man (Encore)"
"When am I gonna come to my good senses? Probably the day Bush comes to my defenses."

Is it sad I did that without listening to the songs or looking up lyrics?


Then we have Mosh (actually the entire song)...
"Stomp, push, shove, mush, Fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home"

I mean, I could go on, too.
Did his popularity decline or anything because he said this? Hell, for We As Americans he was investigated by the Secret Service (not too much though), and even on the unscensored CD "dead" is reversed in the song.

throwingks
For me with Kanye, I do think has has some good songs. That does not make him the best rapper alive.

That is like saying a baseball player hitting .188 hits a game winning homerun, so he is now the best player in the game. No, he had a good hit, but he is not the best hitter. Major league average is probably around .275-.280. This example happened last night by the way, Tigers are going to the World Series.

Kanye has some good songs and he knows how to get people to talk about him. Good for him. That is called marketing not rapping. Kanye also has some bad songs. Go have a listen to KRS-one or The Roots and some of the less main-stream rappers and rethink your Kanye theory.
makaveli91
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Did his popularity decline or anything because he said this? Hell, for We As Americans he was investigated by the Secret Service (not too much though), and even on the unscensored CD "dead" is reversed in the song.


I didn't mean literally every celeberity. There are some that voice their opinions. That song is amazing by the way.


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For me with Kanye, I do think has has some good songs. That does not make him the best rapper alive.

That is like saying a baseball player hitting .188 hits a game winning homerun, so he is now the best player in the game. No, he had a good hit, but he is not the best hitter. Major league average is probably around .275-.280. This example happened last night by the way, Tigers are going to the World Series.

Kanye has some good songs and he knows how to get people to talk about him. Good for him. That is called marketing not rapping. Kanye also has some bad songs. Go have a listen to KRS-one or The Roots and some of the less main-stream rappers and rethink your Kanye theory.



Everyone has bad songs. Or songs that certain people just can't get to like. Its not just that he has some good songs. He is saying something, Compared to 98% of MC's in the music industry who talk about cars, hoes, money, and partying. You're right, i might have jumped a little quick at saying he's one of the best, but right now, at this point he is. And in 5 years, you'll look back and say, well shit, that Makaveli guy was right. Have you listened to ALL of Kanyes tracks on his albums?


Bonus quetsion, what does KRS-one stand for?
Vfreitas
Knowledge Reigns Supreme

Best rapper alive, hmm? I will say that Jay-Z and Nas have been added to the top notch of artists. There are still people like KRS One, Rakim, and many old school people who can still hold their ground. Kayne is no way near one of the bests, I do enjoy his music, though. Eminem is extremely talented, but 95% of his music is now just crap. He can be quoted here and there, but when the other 15 tracks on his album are about dookie.. yeah. Everything after Infinite was not worth buying. 50 Cent is a fraud, no where near best alive. There are many unknowns who I enjoy, and consider greats. Chino XL, Scarface, Immortal Technique (already), etc.

Best alive now though, can go between Jay-Z and Nas. They both have albums coming out relatively soon, so it's really on pause. I have a feeling Jay-Z's album will be mostly club bangers, as usual. The Nas will have more of a meaning behind it all. If you look at their careers they've both had their ups and downs, so I can't pick just one.
EverestX
This is plain Sad. Em, the best rapper alive. Ha. Lyrics Born wipes the stage with his little skate board beats. I mean what you kids call "rap" these days is horrible. What ever happened to K-Rino, SPC, and real hip hop... It's all dead and gone.. Really though, I can't say there is a best alive, all I know is Quannum Crew (Gift of Gab/Blackalicious, Lyrics born/Asia Born, Lateef... all them), totally shred every artist in here.

I'm not trying to rip on your "rap" but if you are actually interested in lyricists rather than radio rap you should check out
Lyrics Born: Same shit Different day
Blackalicious: Nia

And then if you want to hear something a little more "gangster" check out K-rino: Danger Zone. Hell even B.G. for that matter.
biggieandmoe
DMX takes it in my book.
killerbootsman
Goldie Looking Chain tongue.gif
makaveli91
QUOTE(Vfreitas @ Oct 30 2006, 08:56 AM) *

Knowledge Reigns Supreme

Best rapper alive, hmm? I will say that Jay-Z and Nas have been added to the top notch of artists. There are still people like KRS One, Rakim, and many old school people who can still hold their ground. Kayne is no way near one of the bests, I do enjoy his music, though. Eminem is extremely talented, but 95% of his music is now just crap. He can be quoted here and there, but when the other 15 tracks on his album are about dookie.. yeah. Everything after Infinite was not worth buying. 50 Cent is a fraud, no where near best alive. There are many unknowns who I enjoy, and consider greats. Chino XL, Scarface, Immortal Technique (already), etc.

Best alive now though, can go between Jay-Z and Nas. They both have albums coming out relatively soon, so it's really on pause. I have a feeling Jay-Z's album will be mostly club bangers, as usual. The Nas will have more of a meaning behind it all. If you look at their careers they've both had their ups and downs, so I can't pick just one.

Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone. I agree with you on Jay-Z, and on 50 Cent. 50 is just a punk who understood that conflict sold records.. But even that gets old after awhile. As for Eminem, I agree that a few of his songs are stupid. But even in the stupidity, he's saying something. Except for "Just loose it".. That track is retarded.
Tripme
MC Chris hands down!!!
metaldevil
I'm a devout hater of rap, but I find Eminem entertaining. I like some of Akinyele's songs, too. "Put It in Your Mouth," is probably Akinyele's best (and most famous) work. There's another one that's entertaining to me. I don't remember his name, though. Scarface? I think that's his name, but I'm not sure. His song was playing when "Michael Bolton" was rapping in the car at the start of Office Space. If nothing else, I get a laugh out of it whenever I hear the song. The "back up in your ass with the resurrection" song from that movie is also funny.
chorizo1
K-FED ......word.
Raekwon_the_Chef
None of you guys know anything about rap. None of the rappers you've mentioned are even close to the best alive right now.

Cormega
AZ
Pete Rock & C.L Smooth
the new trife and ghost joint,
Rappin 4-Tay

these just first off top of my head. Cormega is ten times the rapper then any of those fools. One of most underrated of all time.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=xqJDHfrIeBA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TQ1cEWLlQC8 (one of my favorite rap videos of all time)


these arent even his best tracks.


"The saga begins
I'm a reflection of the drama within,
the ghe-tto I live in, niggas Moms on crack - Pops just disappeared
first time you get locked up who really cares?
I see a little snotty nosed kid with his sneakers on backwards
sleep' on a mattress, when I go to make a sale
at times I wonder, are we goin' straight to Hell?
or does God realize we're tryin' to make it as well
my sleep is interrupted by food on the stove,
not gun shots - we're immune to those
some of my friends first bids are two to fours
others - on the run with huge rewards
Mothers watch Son's walk through the doors
for the last time 'till they go view at the morgue
life is deep, we all just tryin' to eat
rap's a mental narcotic, I supply the streets"

"Live niggas I rep for, deceased I pour Moet for
those incarcerated, my heart is wit' y'all -
I know at times it gets hard behind penetentiary bars
then once free you realize you're mentally scarred
if not physically, if subjected to correctional facilities
prepare for your future to the best of your ability - prosper otherwise
you've been conquered
blowin' up your mother's phone so she can send you a box
Son, I sit inside my residence
and thank God I'm blessed with this poetical gift evident in every
ghetto like graffiti and crack sales
and cabs that won't stop for Black Males
undercovers givin' younger Brothers bad stares
Fours clap, Dogs crap in the grass here
you love to hear the story Son, the saga began here
MC's are fictitious yet the actual facts here
like the Bible said, Jesus had napped hair"


eminem, kanye aren't what rap really is.






Modderxtrordanare
QUOTE(Tripme @ Nov 8 2006, 10:32 AM) *

MC Chris hands down!!!


QFT! biggrin.gif laugh.gif
silentbob343
Jimmy Pop
d00msday_jesus
attention...kanye west sucks and doing anything other than producing.

that is all.
metaldevil
QUOTE(Raekwon_the_Chef @ Nov 9 2006, 03:51 PM) *
None of you guys know anything about rap. None of the rappers you've mentioned are even close to the best alive right now.
There is no right or wrong answer. All of these are just opinions. Your opinion matters as much as someone else's opinion matters to you. wink.gif
makaveli91
QUOTE(chorizo1 @ Nov 8 2006, 10:32 PM) *

K-FED ......word.


I can't even believe this guy. He's a punk. All of a sudden he's everywhere trying to get publicity. Messing around with the WWE.. Cena will beat his ass.

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eminem, kanye aren't what rap really is.


Well if they aren't what Rap is, then what IS rap? And what about them doesn't make them rap?
Tripme
QUOTE(Modderxtrordanare @ Nov 9 2006, 07:06 PM) *


QFT! biggrin.gif laugh.gif


Ya man, I went to see MC Chris a show in downtown Orlando a few days ago. And holy crap, the coolest ever!!!
Albino
MC Chris is awesome. I'd never heard of him in the Uk until my friend from Boston lent me some of his stuff whilst we were in Germany. I'd have to list, Abominal, Cali 2una and Akil from J5 up there as well. I quite like a bit of Eazy-E now and then and Chucky-D. I listen to the Cypress Hill Spanish album quite a bit as well. There's no real greatest rapper ever, but I'm more of a fan of the old-skool lot than anything new like Kanye west. These are just my opinions, but Abdominal and Dsisive were amazing when I saw them with DJ format last summer.
FreakSho
im not a rap fan , rock music is my thing but if i would have to choose a fav rapper id say all the old school guys, 2pac, dre, snoop (old school stuff, now he is pretty gay), run dmc, all them old schoolers, shit even 2 live krew has some good stuff haha

new school rap is about pure bullshit which is the reason i dont listen to it anymore, even tho some new school rappers are good like T.I , Ludacris, people that can rap about truth and not just random bullshit

another thing i gotta agree with eminem , FUCK BUSH!
epsilon72
QUOTE(Wolves @ Oct 14 2006, 06:18 AM) *


There is no good rapper because there's no good rap.



amen.
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