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xzenor
http://media.ps3.ign.com/articles/743/7438...mg_4059406.html Where the heck are the "High Definition" cables??? blink.gif
silentbob343
QUOTE(xzenor @ Nov 11 2006, 11:33 PM) *

http://media.ps3.ign.com/articles/743/7438...mg_4059406.html Where the heck are the "High Definition" cables??? blink.gif

While the PS3 is just now getting to market there has been a good number of threads in this section and this was covered.

Go here:
http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp

Buy a decent set of cables and not get ass raped in a retail store.
xzenor
I shouldn't have to buy them, that thing is like $600!! It should come with an HDTV.
silentbob343
QUOTE(xzenor @ Nov 12 2006, 12:39 AM) *

I shouldn't have to buy them, that thing is like $600!! It should come with an HDTV.

Again, all of this was covered in prior threads. You last comment tells me that you think the PS3 is over priced; which leads me to believe you have no plans of owning one, or at least any time soon, and that your sole purpose was to stir up controversy.

Sony has made a lot of stupid mistakes and most have been covered ad nauseum in this section.
incognegro
QUOTE(xzenor @ Nov 12 2006, 05:39 AM) *

I shouldn't have to buy them, that thing is like $600!! It should come with an HDTV.


LMAO pop.gif
Deftech
QUOTE(xzenor @ Nov 12 2006, 12:39 AM) *

I shouldn't have to buy them, that thing is like $600!! It should come with an HDTV.


jester.gif
dvsone
I hate buying products that don't include proper cables. Hopefully most retailers will tell their customers when they are purchasing. But HD cables are really that expensive in retail stores, online is the place to sho[. I bet you there's people in Japan with it hooked up with the composite cables saying "Wow look HD, coool". laugh.gif Hopefully they'll read the manual and work it out.
jaygould30
QUOTE(dvsone @ Nov 12 2006, 08:29 AM) *

I hate buying products that don't include proper cables. Hopefully most retailers will tell their customers when they are purchasing. But HD cables are really that expensive in retail stores, online is the place to sho[. I bet you there's people in Japan with it hooked up with the composite cables saying "Wow look HD, coool". laugh.gif Hopefully they'll read the manual and work it out.


Although kind of mean, I have to agree with you. I have many japanese friends from college and although they are some of the smartest people I know, when it comes to gaming they are completely narrow minded. They would say dog shit looked like a diamond if it came from the right company.
mlmadmax
I am going to get a ps3 and I have to say I am pretty pissed that Sony has the nerve to ship there next gen console, 1080p, blue ray playing beast without at least a set of component cables. How much extra would it have cost Sony to include that instead of composite, one one-hundredth of a penny?

And all it is going to do is hurt Sony, most people don't know that you need a certain cable to enable higher resolution on a HDTV. These people are going to hook it up out of the box and are going to think this looks like crap, why did it look so much better in the store.

VERY LAME
Deftech
QUOTE(jaygould30 @ Nov 12 2006, 12:37 PM) *

Although kind of mean, I have to agree with you. I have many japanese friends from college and although they are some of the smartest people I know, when it comes to gaming they are completely narrow minded. They would say dog shit looked like a diamond if it came from the right company.


Agreed 110%
epsilon72
QUOTE(xzenor @ Nov 11 2006, 09:39 PM) *
I shouldn't have to buy them, that thing is like $600!! It should come with an HDTV.


We've been through this before....It would take a huge amount of money for Sony to provide them, but probably less than 10% of PS3 users will actually use them. If you plan on getting the system, just buy a $6.50 HDMI cable from monoprice.com.

that would be funny if the thing came with an HDTV though.. wink.gif
xzenor
Well I don't intend on buying one........your right. That thing is way to expensive. I'll wait until the price drops under $300. Then maybe, just maybe I'll get one. I just think its funny how $ony hypes it up to be the beginning of next generation when you have to buy extra stuff to enable it to be. Atleast M$'s premium came with "next generation" cables.
silentbob343
QUOTE(xzenor @ Nov 12 2006, 03:51 PM) *

Well I don't intend on buying one........your right. That thing is way to expensive. I'll wait until the price drops under $300. Then maybe, just maybe I'll get one. I just think its funny how $ony hypes it up to be the beginning of next generation when you have to buy extra stuff to enable it to be. Atleast M$'s premium came with "next generation" cables.

Also of note, PS2 component cables work on the PS3.
Foe-hammer
QUOTE(silentbob343 @ Nov 12 2006, 04:10 PM) *

Also of note, PS2 component cables work on the PS3.

Yes because so many of use have ps2 component cables so we can enjoy our 95+% of ps2 games in 480i! Damn!, 480i looks so good on my HDTV. laugh.gif
silentbob343
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Nov 13 2006, 04:46 AM) *

Yes because so many of use have ps2 component cables so we can enjoy our 95+% of ps2 games in 480i! Damn!, 480i looks so good on my HDTV. laugh.gif

I have component PS2 cables, my brother does, and my best friend, the 360 owner, does as well. If you have or had an HDTV and weren't hurting for inputs then chances are you would hook up the PS2 the best way possible.

Funny that you mention the lack of 480P on most PS2 titles and yet the system that did utilize 480P, Nintendo GC, produced very limited amounts of component cables for their system. My friend was looking for a set on Ebay and said they go for stupid amounts due to their relative rarity. I've never looked myself, no GC.
j666*
u saying that some gamecube games support 480p? i know there are gamecube component cables and they r ridicoulsly expensive
thepissedoffman
QUOTE(j666* @ Nov 13 2006, 10:08 AM) *

u saying that some gamecube games support 480p? i know there are gamecube component cables and they r ridicoulsly expensive


90% of Cube games support 480p.
silentbob343
QUOTE(j666* @ Nov 13 2006, 11:08 AM) *

u saying that some gamecube games support 480p? i know there are gamecube component cables and they r ridicoulsly expensive

Yeah isn't it crazy
http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum/index....mp;page=hdlists

Here is the GC lists, easily more than the PS2. Don't know why so few, GC component cables, were made esp. when so many games support it.
http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum/index....page=gamecubeac

I believe the biggest reason for PS2 component cables was due to the DVD playback feature of the system.
mlmadmax
Actually about two years ago or so the nintendo stopped producing gamecubes with the option to hook up component cables. Up until that point you could go to the nintendo website and buy component cables for the gamecube for 30 bucks. After the hardware stopped supporting the component cables the price of the cables went up.

The PS3 should still have component cables included in the box. It is stupid that they didn't do this. A HDMI cable would cost to much than fine put in the cheapy component cables that would have cost next to nothing. It is a mistake and a let down and I am still bewildered by it.
nickthegreat
QUOTE(xzenor @ Nov 12 2006, 05:39 AM) *

I shouldn't have to buy them, that thing is like $600!! It should come with an HDTV.


agreed. and although the following comment holds weight:

QUOTE(epsilon72 @ Nov 12 2006, 08:39 PM) *

It would take a huge amount of money for Sony to provide them, but probably less than 10% of PS3 users will actually use them. If you plan on getting the system, just buy a $6.50 HDMI cable from monoprice.com.


it still does not explain why ive got component with my 360.

QUOTE(silentbob343 @ Nov 12 2006, 06:20 AM) *

Again, all of this was covered in prior threads. You last comment tells me that you think the PS3 is over priced; which leads me to believe you have no plans of owning one, or at least any time soon, and that your sole purpose was to stir up controversy.

Sony has made a lot of stupid mistakes and most have been covered ad nauseum in this section.


haha, funny. i like controversy smile.gif, i think the ps3 is overpriced (in europe) but i do have plans to buy one....
sony needs to get their fucking act together - in fact so do MS (they are closer to 'good behaviour' in this regard) - they need to realise that whether its the US market or the EU one, a console sold is a console sold. yes, its a loss. but its market share. both firms need to stop being pussies and stop ripping off the EU. first one that does wins. seriously, $808 (official), and $1046 for a ps3 according to amazon and curries? get fucked! considering that the 360 has been $570 (premium) since launch with one game included you start to see that the US market might not be the battlefield. don't get me wrong, ill get a ps3 - in a year at this rate............

maybe ive got my maths wrong - im not good at it at the best of times, but am sampling a new beer called 'cheers' on ko san road - 5.7% my arse...........biggrin.gif
incognegro
QUOTE(mlmadmax @ Nov 13 2006, 04:56 PM) *

Actually about two years ago or so the nintendo stopped producing gamecubes with the option to hook up component cables. Up until that point you could go to the nintendo website and buy component cables for the gamecube for 30 bucks. After the hardware stopped supporting the component cables the price of the cables went up.

The PS3 should still have component cables included in the box. It is stupid that they didn't do this. A HDMI cable would cost to much than fine put in the cheapy component cables that would have cost next to nothing. It is a mistake and a let down and I am still bewildered by it.



Yea I have one of those gamecubes and it pisses me of. Why is it whenever nintendo cuts costs, we have to pay for it!?

Im not saying other companies dont do it but nintendo does it on a whole new level!
silentbob343
QUOTE(nickthegreat @ Nov 13 2006, 12:06 PM) *

agreed. and although the following comment holds weight:
it still does not explain why ive got component with my 360.
haha, funny. i like controversy smile.gif, i think the ps3 is overpriced (in europe) but i do have plans to buy one....
sony needs to get their fucking act together - in fact so do MS (they are closer to 'good behaviour' in this regard) - they need to realise that whether its the US market or the EU one, a console sold is a console sold. yes, its a loss. but its market share. both firms need to stop being pussies and stop ripping off the EU. first one that does wins. seriously, $808 (official), and $1046 for a ps3 according to amazon and curries? get fucked! considering that the 360 has been $570 (premium) since launch with one game included you start to see that the US market might not be the battlefield. don't get me wrong, ill get a ps3 - in a year at this rate............

maybe ive got my maths wrong - im not good at it at the best of times, but am sampling a new beer called 'cheers' on ko san road - 5.7% my arse...........biggrin.gif

I wouldn't say it's overpriced when they are taking a loss on the unit. I will agree that the console is expensive.
Foe-hammer
QUOTE(silentbob343 @ Nov 13 2006, 04:56 AM) *

Funny that you mention the lack of 480P on most PS2 titles and yet the system that did utilize 480P.....

Who are you kidding? Like i mentioned previously, 95+% of ps2 games did not support 480p. And still to this day new ps2 games are not supporting 480p.....Okami, FFXII. Why you ask? Because the games are renderd internally at 320 x 240.....240p. That way the ps2 can handle the games, whereas 480p would kill the framerate.
silentbob343
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Nov 13 2006, 06:11 PM) *

Who are you kidding? Like i mentioned previously, 95+% of ps2 games did not support 480p. And still to this day new ps2 games are not supporting 480p.....Okami, FFXII. Why you ask? Because the games are renderd internally at 320 x 240.....240p. That way the ps2 can handle the games, whereas 480p would kill the framerate.

What are you talking about? I said most PS2 games didn't support it..agreeing with you.

"and yet the system that did utilize 480P" ahh you cut off the quote. That was in reference to the GC. Other people understood I was referring to the GC.

The entire quote reads:
QUOTE
Funny that you mention the lack of 480P on most PS2 titles and yet the system that did utilize 480P, Nintendo GC, produced very limited amounts of component cables for their system.
xzenor
I agree with the whole "$ony is loosing money on every console" thing. But whats another $10 dollars??? They absolutely should have included component cables, it was stupid not too.
silentbob343
QUOTE(xzenor @ Nov 14 2006, 03:07 PM) *

I agree with the whole "$ony is loosing money on every console" thing. But whats another $10 dollars??? They absolutely should have included component cables, it was stupid not too.

use your PS2 cables tongue.gif

and sure what's another $10....multiply by 480,000 units on the 17th launch = a lot of money.
mlmadmax
Actually a set of component cables that are equal quality to the composit cable already included would have cost next to nothing.

It is bad business to make a console out to be the best HDTV solution and then not have it be capable of HDTV out of box. mad.gif

Stupid Stupid Stupid decision, Bad sony tongue.gif
silentbob343
QUOTE(mlmadmax @ Nov 16 2006, 12:02 PM) *

Actually a set of component cables that are equal quality to the composit cable already included would have cost next to nothing.

It is bad business to make a console out to be the best HDTV solution and then not have it be capable of HDTV out of box. mad.gif

Stupid Stupid Stupid decision, Bad sony tongue.gif

Then people would have flipped out "Sony not supporting gamers without HDTVs?!"
mlmadmax


I know you like to play devils advocate but come on man!

Sony could have left the composit on with the component like the 360 did. This is a standard cable configuration that is very common.

Dougie085
Not sure how old this topic is but its funny that microsoft found an option. Their HDTV cable in the premium has composite and component so sony could have done something simaler very easily. And you guys are talking online prices for sony to create a component cable might cost them 1 dollar. Sure it costs 10 dollars online but those companys have to make money smile.gif.
h4xx3d
Hehehe, it's also funny how people are complaining about having to buy cables. If you truly care about high def gaming, you're going to be buying more expensive cables anyways. Also, it comes with hdmi capabilities, a blue ray drive and nice construction [solid and silent] for $150 CDN more than the 360 :-P I'd say it's quite a bargain. For the 360, you'd have to buy the hd-drive [$200 CDN] as well as a harddrive [$120 CDN] just to have the equivilent accessories. That equates to $170 more than you'd pay for the ps3. But DAMN those guys at Sony, not giving us better cables!!! Hehehehe. *sigh*


[This is talking about both of the non-premium consoles.]
Foe-hammer
$300 xbox360 core + $100 HDD + $200 HD-DVD = $600. PS3 20GB HDD sytem = $500 US. Your canadian figures are fubar.

Pound for pound, you end of paying $100 US more for the 360 if you include the HD-DVD player. But at least you have the option to spend more if you want to. 90% of GAMERS want a video GAME sytem to play GAMES on.
h4xx3d
The core console is $400 in Canada. PS3 core is $550 And even with your figures it comes out to more. Yea, not everyone wants a high definition drive, but for those who do, the PS3 is a better value than the 360.



Also, this thread is about the "next generation" with people complaining because they have to buy some new cables. People who care about next gen multimedia would likely want a high definition drive. My point is that no one should complain about having to buy some cables when they're really getting more for their money. The cables are nothing.
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