Still going... boom boom boom boom! Cheesy update... just letting u know I'm on it =]

You can't bump your own topic! Especially when it's a sticky

Can't wait for the game, its gonna be free right?

Damn you wishi! I aint bumpin! Just letting people know the project's alive

Billenglish: yes, it'll definitely be free. Selling an illegally built application wouldn't be the best move for my young career

Just wanted to show my support & interest in Jihad.

Didn't think a game of this calibur was possible

Awesome work so far!! Keep on coding...



Also, whats the music status? Got someone doing that? I might be able to help with that if not...

yeh man i could make a killer war game soundtrack, please man, u need sum help?

and also please make this with cusimizable soundtracks... cya

Wow, lots of interest in music Anyone interested in sfx?

hell yah!

GREAT JOB!!!! cant wait!!

I'm interested in SFX. Maybe they could be more like beeps and tones that sound more like NES or Master System game sounds than sounding realistic.

lol... nice. instead, we can just base the sound effects off people's voices to achieve maximum cheese appeal

I answered your PM =]

That's a thought... could add some fun factor

Cool =]

There's also another guy who's extremely interest and very talented. I told him I'd let him know once the game was ready for music. Since you're already working on it, I feel I should contact him and you guys can possibly discuss it. He's very talented, too.

He's "artynerd" on the forums... great guy.

Cool. will contact artynerd then...

btw. with regards to fun factor style music... how fast will the game be? Cause exciting style music is normally quite fast. This probably wouldn't suit a tank game where you're rolling around at 20km an hour...also the colours in the game are very natural and deep. Rather than bright, exciting colours... this too might make bomberman style music sort of not fit in...


Let me know what you think.

Tanks will be a bit faster than actual spec, just to make things a bit more exciting. Not only that, but an abrams tank tops out around 45 mph on even terrain, which is pretty damn fast considering the tonage. They won't be ridiculous rice rockets, unless it's some special case, but they'll be quick. I'm hoping for the deathmatch to be fairly intense, so the music shouldn't be too soft. My "fun factor" comment wasn't referring to the music... it was referring to how goofy sounds could add some fun factor to the game as an alternative sound track. Sorry for the confusion

Tough to say how fast-paced the game is. It's dependent on the size of the particular map and the # of players involved. But as a sucker for fast-paced destruction, that's what I'm be going for. The natural looking environment should be able to co-exist with a reasonably intense soundtrack. Take, for instance, something like UT2004 with a very impressive natural environment, but extremely intense action.

if i get some time I will try and get some music done for the game, for some reason I started dreaming about the actual music and the game

Btw, I really do appreciate all the interest in music. Artynerd was the first every to offer his services with the music, and he's problem an awesome talent as a composer. In respect for him and his getting involved the music very early on, I should let him oversee the creation of the game music. However, due to the nature of this project and the fact that it's a fun endeavor, I'd like for the truly interested people to be recognized. There has been a huge surge in interest for the music. Josh (artynerd), if you wouldn't mind, toss up a post with your thoughts on this issue. Doesn't anyone want to do sfx?

I don't want anyone to be left out... but I have to give first attempts to those who offered earliest. I wish we were all on this full time in some great office space on the beach, but unfortunately, we aren't.

I cant believe this entire thread went without one mention of the most famous tank ever!


Now that would be an easteregg

holly hell, what is that from

Metal Slug?

Yeah its the Metal Slug tank, best tank ever

Here are some pics of the Xbox port of MetalSlug3

Yeah, no reason why we can't have alternative soundtracks that people can select.

I have no problem with you doing the primary soundtrack, since you were the first to show serious interest.

PLEASE NOTE: I'm not leaving other people in the cold. PLEASE contribute all you want! Your work WILL be featured

P.S. Free BJs for anyone who wants to do some nice SFX. Please note, the provider of the BJs has not yet been determined.

Nice idea Arty.

a bj you say... what if they are just me making sound effects into a mic? "kabooom!" sorta thing...

the BJ provider will be selected based on sound quality =]

arty, no offense, but it is a homebrew game in which u are picking other artists music that would fit a war game.

i think u shiould start a sub thread, and while u can determien the first 10 songs or whatevr, have us, liek us other 3 who are insterested, and have us each pick 2 songs or sumthing, or have a poll on it.
i am lookin fo sum good pump up rock here

cya

Only problem with that is that there would be no consistency.

I thought Artynerd was saying that you have alternate themes. Ie, complete SFX/soundtrack.

So Artynerd makes the official Jihad soundtrack. And then others can submit theirs to The unProfessional & Arty to be put as an optional soundtrack/theme in the game.

Yeah, I believe that's what Arty had in mind

I agree with Arty though. It's hard to put your foot down sometimes without being a dick. I mean it wouldn't make sense to have 15 different songs playing back to back. It would just annoy you and you would stop playing. You don't see Van Gogh painting the face of a character, then handing it over to Gauguin to finish. I mean it wouldn't match. Yes, they are both talented, but in their own style.

It would make sense to just chose from teh menu what soundtrack you want to listen to and then the game will start with it. If you want screaming guitars, then pick it. If you want thinking music, then you pick that. Obviously you would have to agree when it comes to multiplayer.

Since we're not at the point of music yet, I would just starting making your tunes at home idley and not get stressed out about it. Then when the time comes, you have something to show for. Of course, don't got off and do 50 songs between now and then, but just something that gives the flavor.

I'm not really sure what you guys were talking about earleri with cartooney sfx. Why would i want to hear a dinging sound if i just launched a large shell into the terrain in front of me and dirt and everything is being kicked up? I want to see my TV rumble with intensity with every shot fired, and hear the engine grinding and feel the tank treads tearing into the ground. With the alpha version now, without any sound you can almost imagine that you're driving RC tanks (which is not the point), so adding cartooney sounds will only add to that kiddy-ness of the game, which is not exactly what i had in mind.

I'll talk with Pro, but it's his decision inevitably.

Yeah, we're not really goin for the goofy thing. If we add a goofy sfx library, it'll be optional, but i doubt many will use it.

I can't really think about alternative sfx libraries just yet... since I haven't had any real bites on a primary one

Well put Neil.

Ok guys, here's the deal. The middelware is giving us the biggest problem. UnPro started with Tomak and they promised lots of support and patches and.... they totally died. So everyone using that was left with nothing. He looked into some others, but they aren't really for vehicles too much. So Novodex looked the most promising from there. Except it costs 1 grand. So... we're stuck between consantly fixing aroudn with the old one to get it to work, or coming up with 1,000 dollars. If it were only cheaper, I'm sure we'd consider it more.

say what?

1 grand, and you even gave it a thought!!! Homebrew all of a sudden got a bit more serious to me. Please don't pay any money, no matter it's cheaper, it'd destroy the homebrew feeling. Too bad about Middleware(is that a company or something, I recognize that name very well from somewhere?). Have they COMPLETELY dropped out? I Perhaps their employer didn't like them doing stuffs on the side (pretty unnecessary to wonder I guess).

hope this isn't the last we see from the project (and I don't believe so either), considering all the incredible amount of time you've spend.

Good luck fellas, you truly deserve it.

No, it's not the last of Jihad, for sure. At the very least, I'll just have to stick with dozens of workarounds and substandard friction in tokamak. Basically, they apply only static friction, and kinetic friction is mostly out of the equation (or so it seems after worlds of tests). Restitution/bounciness is also poorly tunable. <sigh> I could go on and on. Tokamak is a free library, and I assume the guys who were creating it found it as a hobby. But, for reasons untold, they've disappeared.

I'm hoping to get Novodex... for much less than a grand.

whatever happened to good old locking them to +5 on the Y axis and having physics that consist of pos.x+=speed; ??!?!?

F=ma is good enough for me.

Was wondering if you were thinking about having voices in the game? For example when you kill your enemy or even when you are about to be killed?

I have wrote down a couple of lines, in the style of duke nukem lines, funny but serious..... Let me know if this interests you or not, thanks.

Like radio chatter? or Unreal style, like "Mega Kill"

He-He-He-He Heaaaad shot!

haha.

I get pumped when I hear successively...

"head shot"... "double kill"... "multi kill"....... "killing spree"

I would just like to say,

IM EXCiTED to see the finished produce!!!

Thanks guys

"You don't see Van Gogh painting the face of a character, then handing it over to Gauguin to finish"

BTW, nice art history reference, Neil

I find that the visual arts and music have a lot in common. I practised visual arts my whole life until I started writing music at ~16. It's kinda funny, I have years and years of formal art training, history, theory, yet I feel more passionate about my music, which I have absolutely no training whatsoever.

can u please give us of an example of a song we would be hearin this game according to ur soundtrack

Who, me? I haven't seen Jihad in action yet, so I can't set a tone/mood for the game if I have no clue of its pacing.

If you want to hear some of my work, head over to www.mhgames.cjb.net

I did music for the games "FORMIDO" and "DELIRIUM"

also check out http://www.kamarov.com/levels_kamq3dm2.html

I did some music for a friend of mine, who now works with Ravensoft on Quake 4.

Check out my old band at www.excurses.com there's a sample song there if you're into extreme metal.

I have a bunch of raw tracking music on the web, but i wont bother you with all the plugins and crap you need to play them

I have SO much stuff that I've never released (cancelled games, personal experiments/projects, band recordings, compos, odd jobs, etc.) , it's kinda like the whole "iceberg" analogy