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The Sony PS3 sold 70942 units (50171 last week), the Nintendo Wii sold 108237 units (85439 last week) and the Xbox360 is beaten by the PS2 again with its 37730 units sold (30460 last week). If my calculations are right this bring the installment base of the Xbox 360 to ~230k, PS3 to ~308.8k and Wii to ~521.2k in Japan. On a WorldWide scale it's much harder to get numbers. However the nexgenwars estimates have proven to be not far from the truth usually, just keep in mind these are no official numbers. Worldwide installment base for the next-gen consoles: Xbox 360: 8,874,211 PS3: 503,254 Wii: 1,877,329 |
Full Version: (Japan) Week2 of Blue Dragon ... 17k Xbox360s Sold
They have a while to hit 10 million.
QUOTE(Gman22 @ Dec 21 2006, 08:18 PM) 
They have a while to hit 10 million.
Not a suprise PS3 & Wii are out selling Xbox360. There aren't that many NTSC-J games that are that great.
Its funny that after 1 year head start, both Wii and PS3 overtook the 360 in Japan in one month. I guess its a case of not having any games that cater to Japanese gamers. Sure Blue Dragon seems like something they would like, but it doesn't come off as a killer app such as say Gears of War is in the US.
woopitydooo
nextgenwars.com is very fake, they really pull #s out their ass. The 360 #s for instance are units "shipped" not units sold. For a much more accurate count head over to www.vgcharts.org
Now they are so reliable 3rd parties use their data, so from nwo on it's best to link to them instead of Nextgenwars...
Now they are so reliable 3rd parties use their data, so from nwo on it's best to link to them instead of Nextgenwars...
QUOTE(Bahn Yuki @ Dec 22 2006, 05:37 AM)
nextgenwars.com is very fake, they really pull #s out their ass. The 360 #s for instance are units "shipped" not units sold. For a much more accurate count head over to www.vgcharts.org
Now they are so reliable 3rd parties use their data, so from nwo on it's best to link to them instead of Nextgenwars...
I think that site is the one pulling numbers out the ass. Those figures from that site are way off. The 360 was at 6.5 million back in September and that was units sold. Right now it's 8.8 million units sold. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360
nexgenwars was actually right.
P.S Looks like wikipedia are in the process of updating because the link said as of Dec 21 it was 8.8 million sold. Now it shows data from September.
No one can claim to know which sites numbers are more accurate, without going out and counting how many systems have been sold by hand. Fighting over which site is correct is pointless, both are probably wrong. 
QUOTE(TheIrishLad @ Dec 22 2006, 06:10 AM)
No one can claim to know which sites numbers are more accurate, without going out and counting how many systems have been sold by hand. Fighting over which site is correct is pointless, both are probably wrong.
Wiki is a reliable source
No matter who is right, it is gonna take a long time for either systems to hit 8.8million systems sold. Especially since the sales of all systems are still going up. People are not gonna stop buying the 360 all together. Hell Sony cant even produce that many systems! Thats the funny part, so how are they gonna even think about catching up 
in last months' Game Informer they bring up the discrepancy in Microsoft's #s vs. the NPD #s. According to GI that trhough August the 360 has only sold 2.4 million units in the USA. They also mentioned that 360 is selling at slower pace than the original Xbox. In September 2006 the 360 sold 260,000 units, this would place 360 sales at 2.7 million units in the USA. With a solid Oct. and a great Nov. with another smashing Dec., the 4.49 million figure is feasible. So I can fathom a install base of 4.49, but clearly nextgenwars.com #s are not reality. If anyway has time to get NPD data and post in here, much appreciated.
http://www.vgcharts.org/forum/thread.php?id=79 Novembers NPD #s if anyone cares.
http://www.vgcharts.org/forum/thread.php?id=79 Novembers NPD #s if anyone cares.
Wow see how easy it is for MS to lie/confuse its consumers by saying it sold 6million up until october, sold for ms means they are sold to retailers, wich means that every console shipped from ms are counted and has nothing to do with how many consoles they have sold.
But I guess its hard to believe that your favorite console isn't doing as good as it really should...
and yes nextgen is crap take the ps3 numbers for instance, as of the 17th there where 310k sold in japan, in november 197k where sold in the us, wich brings us to nextgenwars 500k, but what about december in the us didn't they get any consoles? while japan has gotten ~150k during the same time?
But I guess its hard to believe that your favorite console isn't doing as good as it really should...
and yes nextgen is crap take the ps3 numbers for instance, as of the 17th there where 310k sold in japan, in november 197k where sold in the us, wich brings us to nextgenwars 500k, but what about december in the us didn't they get any consoles? while japan has gotten ~150k during the same time?
QUOTE(Pheidias @ Dec 21 2006, 11:12 PM)
Wow see how easy it is for MS to lie/confuse its consumers by saying it sold 6million up until october, sold for ms means they are sold to retailers, wich means that every console shipped from ms are counted and has nothing to do with how many consoles they have sold.
But I guess its hard to believe that your favorite console isn't doing as good as it really should...
and yes nextgen is crap take the ps3 numbers for instance, as of the 17th there where 310k sold in japan, in november 197k where sold in the us, wich brings us to nextgenwars 500k, but what about december in the us didn't they get any consoles? while japan has gotten ~150k during the same time?
MS is not the only console company that counts systems sold that way; both sony and nintendo do it to.
Sony is just so picked on, aren't they? Thank you for coming to their rescue. On that note, i hear home depot is having a sale on their knee pads. You should get some before their gone.
QUOTE(rasstar @ Dec 21 2006, 11:25 PM)
Wiki is a reliable source
I hope you're not serious.
Every console that sold 10 million first is usually the one which is the winner in the end, judging by the past history.
QUOTE(Zoneout @ Dec 22 2006, 05:28 AM)
Every console that sold 10 million first is usually the one which is the winner in the end, judging by the past history.
but in the past did any console have a year head start? lol
QUOTE(mlapaglia @ Dec 22 2006, 08:08 AM)
but in the past did any console have a year head start? lol
Yes in nearly every generation actually
NES had a year on the SMS and won
Genesis had a year on the SNES and lost
Saturn had half a year on the PSX and N64 and lost
Dreamcast had nearly a year on the PS2 and lost
PS2 had a over a year on the Xbox and GC and won
There are lots of metrics people have looked at to predict patterns in the game industry as to who sells the most units each generation... there are only 2 metrics that hold true
1. The first console to reach 10 million units is the one that outsells all of the others in the end
2. The console that has the Final Fantasy Franchise is the one that outsells all of the others in the end.
This generation is interesting because it looks like the 360 will most likely hit 10 million first. while the PS3 will most likely retain the Final Fantasy franchise. so we'll see which metric holds the most truth.
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As for groups like NPD, Nexgenwars and VGCharts... they are ALL inaccurate.
NPD is useless because they don't track online sales (which makes up a substantial portion of sales these days) and they also don't track some larger retailers like Walmart (which also makes up a substantial portion of sales). Actually they only track sales of very specific retailers... which can really skew results.
VG Charts is mostly using NPDs already flawed numbers, in addition to hand selecting particular news releases, which is even worse IMO because then it throws personal bias (sub-conscience or not) into the mix.
Nexgenwars goes almost entirely by news releases...
VG Charts is mostly using NPDs already flawed numbers, in addition to hand selecting particular news releases, which is even worse IMO because then it throws personal bias (sub-conscience or not) into the mix.
Nexgenwars goes almost entirely by news releases...
oh boy...I've started a war now, lol. I feel the exact opposite. I mean Nextgenwars doesn't even have Wii at 2 million yet press releases clearly state so. BTW SONY and Nintendo don't go by units shipped, they go by units sold.
TO the poster above talking about knee pads, after he's done with them you can use them to worship
Microsoft. Anyway I trust the VGcharts.org numbers more, cause even with Microsoft touting 3.3 million in Sept, that would mean that the 360 would have to sell over 4 million Xboxes in 3 months...I mean they have 360 at almost 9 million while SONY is only 500K? if anyone is throwing bias into things it's nexgenwars.com
Nexgenwars goes almost entirely by news releases...
oh boy...I've started a war now, lol. I feel the exact opposite. I mean Nextgenwars doesn't even have Wii at 2 million yet press releases clearly state so. BTW SONY and Nintendo don't go by units shipped, they go by units sold.
TO the poster above talking about knee pads, after he's done with them you can use them to worship
Microsoft. Anyway I trust the VGcharts.org numbers more, cause even with Microsoft touting 3.3 million in Sept, that would mean that the 360 would have to sell over 4 million Xboxes in 3 months...I mean they have 360 at almost 9 million while SONY is only 500K? if anyone is throwing bias into things it's nexgenwars.com
Acctually nextgen goes not by news, but rather a prediction based on previous console sales and such atleast that was what where stated on their page. Don't know how that works though, and then which news sources are reliable, reuters only? And since MS hasn't released any figures exept the 6 million sold to retailers as of september 30th how come they are at 8.8 on nexgen.
And didn't psp and ds already prove your 2 metrics wrong psp was first reaching 10mil but DS has FF. So the only true metric is Wich ever console that gets Dragon Quest wins.
Oh and I think the first to a install base of 15mil will be the wii.
And didn't psp and ds already prove your 2 metrics wrong psp was first reaching 10mil but DS has FF. So the only true metric is Wich ever console that gets Dragon Quest wins.
Oh and I think the first to a install base of 15mil will be the wii.
I should add that when I say "Final Fantasy" I mean the main franchise not the spin-offs. This also excludes portables.
portables have their own criteria which is something like
-If your company name starts with an "N" and ends in "intendo" you will come out out top by the end of the generation.
portables have their own criteria which is something like
-If your company name starts with an "N" and ends in "intendo" you will come out out top by the end of the generation.
QUOTE(mlapaglia @ Dec 22 2006, 02:08 PM)
but in the past did any console have a year head start? lol
Ummm,
the PS2 had a 1 year head start on the Xbox.
The Playstation had a 1 year head start on the Nintendo 64.
But on the other hand.....
The Dreamcast had a 1 year start on PS2 (did them no good)
The Saturn had a head start on Playstation 1 (not a full year though)
The Genesis had a 1 (or 2??) year head start on SNES.
The question should have been, did any console ever have a worldwide 1 year headstart.
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