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Leaf for Windows and Xbox
Posted by HSDEMONZ | December 26 19:46 EST

 
[QUOTE]
Leaf is a software application that makes it easy for you to fully utilize your always-on broadband connection to your home network. Setup and installation is easy! -- download the latest version of Leaf 2006:

* Create your own private network with your friends
* Our file sharing is like no other file sharing, it is actually disk sharing.
* You can always stay connected to your media no matter where you are.
* Easily stream music directly to your friend's digital media receiver.
* Play XBOX head-on-head with your friends no matter where they are.
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Official Site: Leaf Networks
Download: here


sinister slipknot
Sounds and looks pretty cool, they're even making it for Linux soon.
bho76
yup its sounds real cool... gonna download it and try it out tommorow!
edwinmcdunlap
Neat. They need a Mac version smile.gif
Odb718
Hopefully it works as good as Xlink or XBC on the system link aspect of it all.
sbmd
hmm seems very cool i will have to try this out.
loserkid182
just had a quick look, it appears to connect in a similar way to Hamachi (www.hamaci.cc) in that it give you a virtual IP (5.1.x.xxx) etc and creates a VPN tunnel between the machines.

I use Hamachi to tunnel to our server to connect via Remote desktop, very secure wink.gif

Nice
Dracc
If anyone wants to play some Halo 2, PM me. I got it set up, but I can't test it right now because my friend is still at work.

EDIT: I saw the comment about hamachi. Heh, I run hamachi as well. My computer has sooo many IP addresses now!
uberfrost
looks really cool...gonna try this one tonight! ph34r.gif
bho76
sucks, i can't get it to run on my pc. there is a patch in thier forums available but even after patching i am still getting a error. Good luck for everyone. their office is around the corner from my house so i might just take my laptop there !
twistedsymphony
Now if they made a version of this that ran on the Linux based Linksys router... that would be friggin sweet!
gottastopdrinkin
Thanks Leaf Networks!
Now my Diablo 2 progress is fucked, your little friggin installer made my PC go to a blue screen with white spots and restart unexpectedly. It happened while I had a minimized game of Diablo 2 running, now it says it can't load because the gamesave is corrupt. @ least 2 months of gameplay down the damn drain.
Leaf Networks ..!.. muhaha.gif
ItchyB
QUOTE(gottastopdrinkin @ Dec 27 2006, 12:19 PM) *

Thanks Leaf Networks!
Now my Diablo 2 progress is fucked, your little friggin installer made my PC go to a blue screen with white spots and restart unexpectedly. It happened while I had a minimized game of Diablo 2 running, now it says it can't load because the gamesave is corrupt. @ least 2 months of gameplay down the damn drain.
Leaf Networks ..!.. muhaha.gif


Sorry but who installs a new program while running other apps? especially a game.......
Justincredibal
lol.... D2, who plays that anymore.
gottastopdrinkin
QUOTE
Sorry but who installs a new program while running other apps? especially a game.......

You're right, and I know better. But it (Leaf) sounded so interesting that I tried a little too quickly.
I'm not completely angry, first time in a while I decided I'd like to play D2, so it's not like I was really into it anymore though I did have a lot of progress.
QUOTE
lol.... D2, who plays that anymore.

Huh, act like you dont play emulators. tisk tisk
Shit, Killer Instinct is played @ my house about as much as Halo 2.
Ravo5002
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Dec 27 2006, 02:36 AM) *

Now if they made a version of this that ran on the Linux based Linksys router... that would be friggin sweet!


its called open vpn... which is what this program is anyways... i hate these programs which claim 2 have cool new features when they already exist for years...
gaming fanboy
biggrin.gif great software pop.gif
SenTinaL Oz
Problem:

My Norton's Anti Virus detected the following:

Details: Rule "Default Block Back Orifice 2000 Trojan horse" blocked communication.
Local address: All local network adapters(Back-Orifice-2000-1(54321)).
Process name is "C:\Program Files\Leaf Networks\Leaf 2006\bin\Leaf 2006.exe".

WTF?

uhh.gif uhh.gif uhh.gif
gottastopdrinkin
Norton is lame. AVG and even Kaspersky is better than that crap.
SenTinaL Oz
QUOTE(gottastopdrinkin @ Dec 27 2006, 01:14 PM) *

Norton is lame. AVG and even Kaspersky is better than that crap.


Thanks for the constructive help .... NOT. lurk.gif

Crap or not, it is giving a warning and I would have thought it should be discussed in case there was any real threat, rather than the program being dismissed off hand.
mike8519
Were you playing D2 single/open? bah, go play online tongue.gif
0794
QUOTE(gottastopdrinkin @ Dec 26 2006, 09:44 PM) *

Norton is lame. AVG and even Kaspersky is better than that crap.


I agree...Norton and McAfee cause so many problems - it is amazing how many problems instantly resolve when I remove Norton from brand-new PCs (esp Dells) that I am asked to repair...I almost feel bad taking people's money for fixing their PC by simply removing Norton.

AVG has a free version and is definitely the way to go for AV software...
The Zep Man
QUOTE
* Our file sharing is like no other file sharing, it is actually disk sharing.
* You can always stay connected to your media no matter where you are.
* Easily stream music directly to your friend's digital media receiver.
* Play XBOX head-on-head with your friends no matter where they are.
Damn, I did all of this with OpenVPN over a year ago, even with Linux. I especially like the part about "disk sharing". They make it seem like it's something magical, while I already could do this 10 years ago (securely!) over the Internet. The best part is that you probably do not want to share your entire disk. rolleyes.gif
elmo_sni
QUOTE(gottastopdrinkin @ Dec 26 2006, 10:44 PM) *

Norton is lame. AVG and even Kaspersky is better than that crap.



Sophos, baby ;-) i love it...

whats it mean by it "fullly utilizes" our IC... am i going to get 30 mbps with everything i use Leaf for?
EverestX
Either this garbage is the Ultra bunk, or I am a noob, I cant get it set up, I foloowed all the tuts browsed there forums and everyone I add shows offline. Lame. Anyone else having the same problem"?
TechPagan
Have Vista RTM, gave BSOD and rebooted. Vista reported problem with driver that the Leaf installed. Oh well.
commandersafi
This is cool, cant wait for the Mac version!!
EverestX
Woo who, man that's nice, they have a guy over there going out of his way to help people "pramod" is his name, helped me get it sorted out. This app has a decent chat client too. I'll have to give it a try for a week and see how it works out.. No X64 support currently though
dxj1973
QUOTE(SenTinaL Oz @ Dec 26 2006, 10:08 PM) *

Problem:

My Norton's Anti Virus detected the following:

Details: Rule "Default Block Back Orifice 2000 Trojan horse" blocked communication.
Local address: All local network adapters(Back-Orifice-2000-1(54321)).
Process name is "C:\Program Files\Leaf Networks\Leaf 2006\bin\Leaf 2006.exe".

WTF?

uhh.gif uhh.gif uhh.gif



i got the same warning. what is that all about? is this a false warning from norton?

if it is false, there must be a way around the block without removing norton.

i wrote leaf an email with no response yet.

anyone else have the same problem? any fixes out there people?

help us out
poopiemagee
This is a very interesting program and it got me thinking...

IS there a way to play xbox games modded xbox to modded xbox?
I know this prg claims to do it but is there anyone out there that already knows how?
How? Sounds like a real cool prospect...
pramod
QUOTE(dxj1973 @ Dec 27 2006, 07:21 PM) *

i got the same warning. what is that all about? is this a false warning from norton?

if it is false, there must be a way around the block without removing norton.

i wrote leaf an email with no response yet.

anyone else have the same problem? any fixes out there people?

help us out


Hi,

I am pramod from leafnetworks. One of the ports we are using, 54321, happened to coincide with a Trojan, hence the error. It is a false positive. We are working to correct this situation and will have a release soon, within a week or so.

Thanks.
BongoBob
Now that's dedicated help right there smile.gif

Now if only I could get PC games to work over it without lag.
Minotaur
Program kept losing connection to its master server - nd when it did it would steal focus from whatever else I was doing - and when that was a game, it would make the game crash.
Uninstalled.
Dracc
QUOTE(pramod @ Dec 27 2006, 08:30 PM) *


Hi,

I am pramod from leafnetworks. One of the ports we are using, 54321, happened to coincide with a Trojan, hence the error. It is a false positive. We are working to correct this situation and will have a release soon, within a week or so.

Thanks.


Umm, then why does the application take up 95% of my processor usage and halt incoming net traffic? It is a virus, plain and simple... so when your antivirus program flags it, its telling the truth. I think we need a news update on the front page warning users to stay away from this program. Its trash! Junk it now before something bad happens!
BongoBob
QUOTE(Dracc @ Dec 28 2006, 02:13 AM) *

Umm, then why does the application take up 95% of my processor usage and halt incoming net traffic? It is a virus, plain and simple... so when your antivirus program flags it, its telling the truth. I think we need a news update on the front page warning users to stay away from this program. Its trash! Junk it now before something bad happens!


It takes up barely any memory and cpu usage on my computer, and it doesn't halt incoming net traffic on any of the three boxes I'm using it on. Maybe it just has a glitch with your set up? Maybe your AV is screwing it up?

AVG hasn't found anything on mine, and I trust it more than Norton smile.gif
poopiemagee
Yo BongoBob you actually used it on an xbox? What games did you test it with? Anything I should watch out for?
SenTinaL Oz
I have been in pretty regular contact with the Leaf guys over the last few days and they have confirmed (by recreating the issue themselves) that Norton's does in fact detect that Leaf is opening up a port known to be used by a certain Trojan.

Leaf have said that they will be fixing this by changing the port that the program asks your system to open.

So for all you peeps that have been bagging Nortons and saying "my av is better and did not have any problems with Leaf", well then I wonder how many other progs you have installed that opened ports to known hacking threats and your av simply allowed it ....

In my experience it is better to be cautious and say no as soon as 1 person says they have had a warning and then do some investigating.

In this case Leaf admit that they have opened users of their program to potential hacking by asking users to open this port. I would have thought that the developers could have done a basic google search on the port they chose for their new program and this would pretty quickly tell them which ones should be avoided .... not the best research by the devs.
Huntta
Guys we're living 2006 here (well almost 2007), so why doesen't anyone say that does it only work with Xbox 1 or with Xbox 360 also? And if so, does it work well too?
cap1
Gmod and other pC games are very greedy and use 100% of the CPU. Leaf 2006 is just another application that lives in User Space not in Kernal space like other network drivers. If you are on a LAN, the ethernet driver lives in kernal space and gets realtime priority from the OS. Leaf on the other hand has to share processing with other application in user space. If these other applications are greedy, they will not give any cycles to the leaf process. In the furture, we will make this a setting in the application. Thanks! Jeff

If you want use Leaf for LAN gaming you must set the Leaf 2006.exe process priority to "realtime."

To do so:

1. Press CNTRL-ATL-DEL and select the Task Manager button.
2. Select the Processes tab from the Task Manager.
3. Right mouse click on the Leaf 2006.exe process and the choose Set Priority from the menu.
4. Choose RealTime from the list.


QUOTE(BongoBob @ Dec 28 2006, 05:47 AM) *

Now that's dedicated help right there smile.gif

Now if only I could get PC games to work over it without lag.

angrykid
has anyone successfully played an xbox 360 link game with this software?
ex0dus
I've played Gear of War and RS: Vegas with this over system link and it worked better for us than when we played over XBL.

Now I would like to reply to the posts about the AV issues even though they are a bit old.

Just because the program is opening the port of a known Trojan does NOT necessarily mean that you are being infected with the virii or trojan, as far as saying your are surprised to see the other AV clients not flagging these issues most of the other (GOOD)AV programs look at the actual program to see if it is indeed infected before flagging.

Operating this way causes way less user frustration and I personally think it's better to be flagged for actual things.
Barn35
Whats your tag on leaf? Wanting to test Gears,since cant find decent pings on xlink.
Barn35
Bump!
newfie4ever
my leaf tag is Newf 007. I would like to try this out if someone else wants to. I usually play Rainbow Six Vegas.

Let me know.
xnoelahg
QUOTE(newfie4ever @ Jun 3 2007, 10:29 PM) *

my leaf tag is Newf 007. I would like to try this out if someone else wants to. I usually play Rainbow Six Vegas.

Let me know.


Couldn't find ya, but I'm still unsure how to finish setting up Leaf. Are you able to browse people that are online playing?
newfie4ever
Only if you add them to your server profile I think. What is your leaf tag? If we get enough people online with this we would find someone to try this out with. I only have Leaf running when I think there might be someone else on.
newfie4ever
Ok if anyone would like to try this software out then add my tag Newf 007 to your program and lets see if it will work. Rainbow Six Vegas and Gears Of War seem to be the most popular, so let me know if you want to try it out. I have it installed but its no good if on one else has it.

Thanks
ghettoc401
everyone add me. My username is ghettoc401. i have Gears of War, Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six, Kameo, GRAW 2 and Motogp 06.

Oh yea, newfie, your username is not registered with them.
newfie4ever
Ok I have just tested this program and it works ok but only with game that are not ping limited (if you get it to work with Vegas or GOW let me know). It works with COD3 but that is as far as we got (I had to take off). I will add everyone if they leave their leaf tag here and maybe we can get something going.

Good Luck and thanks to those who helped me try this out.
Agret
QUOTE(SenTinaL Oz @ Dec 29 2006, 03:23 AM) *

In this case Leaf admit that they have opened users of their program to potential hacking by asking users to open this port. I would have thought that the developers could have done a basic google search on the port they chose for their new program and this would pretty quickly tell them which ones should be avoided .... not the best research by the devs.

lol laugh.gif are you serious?
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