PS3Scene
Dec 27 2006, 08:56 PM
PlayStation 3 Gets Downloadable Tekken 5
Posted by XanTium | 27-12-2006 14:56 EST
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From gamasutra.com: [QUOTE] Previously available only in arcade and PSP formats, Namco Bandai's Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection has been released in Japan as a fully digitally distributed PS3 title over Sony's PlayStation Store.
Running at full HD (in up to 720p or 1080p) at a promised 60 frames per second, the new version of the 7th iteration in the long-running Tekken series makes boss character Jinpachi Mishima playable for the first time.
The Dark Resurrection download weighs in at 830MB, and is available for 2000 yen ($16.80) on Sony's Japan store, and $125HK ($16.07) on the Hong Kong store. The U.S. will likely see its own version of the game appearing stateside in due time, but no announcements have yet been made. [/QUOTE]
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mlmadmax
Dec 27 2006, 10:22 PM
Correct me if i am wrong, but NO game can run at 60 frames per second on a 1080p30 tv i wish sony would stop with the bs.
epsilon72
Dec 28 2006, 01:40 AM
QUOTE(mlmadmax @ Dec 27 2006, 02:29 PM)

Correct me if i am wrong, but NO game can run at 60 frames per second on a 1080p30 tv i wish sony would stop with the bs.
I wish the bs would stop too, but I have to admit that high-definition Tekken 5 sounds pretty cool. It sucks that there's no online multiplayer support though - if they had that I'd definitely buy it (since I don't have a PSP, and thus don't have Tekken 5 DR).
twistedsymphony
Dec 28 2006, 01:47 AM
Explain to me why it's a big deal that a single PS2 game is re-released (in Japan only mind you) and able to render in HD
... isn't that something the PS3 was supposed to be able to do with the disc you already own?
mlmadmax
Dec 28 2006, 02:20 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Dec 27 2006, 04:54 PM)

... isn't that something the PS3 was supposed to be able to do with the disc you already own?
Yes it absolutely should be something the PS3 already does, along with up converting standard DVDs and along with having a scaler capable of up converting to a set resolution and.... well shit don't get me started.
osotogari
Dec 28 2006, 06:05 AM
I got to have this.
anyone know any way to DL the jap version any tricks out, like some people were doing it on the 360 before.
this sucks the japs get all the good stuff 1st
Pheidias
Dec 28 2006, 09:33 AM
Twisted shouldn't you atleast read the topic before going in attack mode? Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection isn't a ps2 game.
And yes a game can run at 60 frames in 1080p. A game can run at any resolution at any framerate. That some tvs can't handle 1080p60 or that some cables can't has nothing to do with a games ability to run at that framerate and resolution. So stop with the BS mlmadmax
alsybub
Jan 2 2007, 01:20 AM
I downloaded it and I live in the UK.
You create a HongKong account and enter your credit card details with a false address.
It's $125HK
You then add $40HK twice (because of some wierd screw that makes fail if it is anything over) and then you go to buy the game and it will allow you to pay the $45HK difference.
I have played it a surpsising amount. It's good fun if you like the series and I'm gonna grab me another sixaxis so I can kick my friends asses!
mlmadmax
Jan 2 2007, 07:22 PM
Pheidias
Jan 3 2007, 07:04 AM
Well niether do you when you say 1080p at 60 frames are impossible.
mlmadmax
Jan 3 2007, 08:06 AM
I did not say 1080p at 60 frames was impossible I said it wasn’t possible on a 1080p30 HDTV and guess what that is all there is right now. So why would they say it plays at 1080p at 60 FPS when that is not possible on any HDTV?
Also a game can't run at any resolution or at any frame rate there are limitations to all variables. You can't play a game on your PC at 5050 by 2020 it just isn't possible at the moment. Just like you can't play a game at 1080p at 60 fps right now the technology doesn't exist yet hence it being BS.
Pheidias
Jan 3 2007, 02:00 PM
Acctually there are lots of monitors that can handle 1080p at 60 frames no problem. You're just trying to find BS where there are noone.
But I guess somewhere in that statement they say something about that you have to play on 1080p30 hdtvs?
mlmadmax
Jan 3 2007, 11:58 PM
You are wrong and you will never get it.
There are no 1080p60 HDTV's in existance right now and there are also no 1920 by 1080 native resolution moniters.
whatever i'm done
Pheidias
Jan 4 2007, 07:09 AM
Heh you're funny

And kinda stupid
mlmadmax
Jan 4 2007, 09:13 AM
You know what fuck you
If i am wrong than post a link and prove me wrong don't start slinging names over the internet like a little bitch.
I have to take what you say with a huge grain of salt since most of your poasts are anti everything and rarely contribute to anything.
Back on topic i have played this game a bit and it is fun, worth the 15 bucks or whatever it is. Graphics are nice not quit on par with the likes of DOA but it was a lot less expensive.
Pheidias
Jan 4 2007, 04:55 PM
mlmadmax
Jan 4 2007, 05:57 PM
None of those displays are 1920 by 1080 native resolution. Also those are all computer moniters, do you have any info on a HDTV that does 1080p60?
deadparrot
Jan 4 2007, 06:04 PM
QUOTE(mlmadmax @ Jan 3 2007, 11:05 PM)

You are wrong and you will never get it.
There are no 1080p60 HDTV's in existance right now and there are also no 1920 by 1080 native resolution moniters.
whatever i'm done
Fortunatley, you are slightly wrong

Pioneer does a 1080p native plasma, but I don't know if it can handle 60FPS.
I present to you, the
PDP-5000EX!
VariableElite
Jan 4 2007, 06:17 PM
QUOTE(deadparrot @ Jan 4 2007, 11:11 AM)

Fortunatley, you are slightly wrong

Pioneer does a 1080p native plasma, but I don't know if it can handle 60FPS.
I present to you, the
PDP-5000EX!And a bargain at $8,000 USD.
Pheidias
Jan 4 2007, 06:21 PM
mlmadmax, wtf there are lots of tvs, monitors that can handle resolutions equaling or greater then 1920*1080. Why do you need a hdtv that does 1080p60. The fact that almost all of those displays I linked will do resolutions of 1080p and higher have proven the point that the only slinging bullshit are you. Here is you original post
" Correct me if i am wrong, but NO game can run at 60 frames per second on a 1080p30 tv i wish sony would stop with the bs."
Wich bs are you acctually accusing sony of pulling.
Because it can not be the fact that the game runs at 60 frames at 1080p cos it sure as hell do. And there are monitors out there that are more then capable of displaying this.
And not to name call and all but I think my previous statement about you might have been dead on...
You really are a funny guy
mlmadmax
Jan 4 2007, 10:33 PM
You still arn't getting what I am trying to say, all those monitors you linked to do not have a native resolution of 1920 by 1080. This is because they are computer monitors not HDTV's. There are also plenty of 1080p tv's out right now but none of them can do 1080p60.
When sony say's the game will play at 720p or 1080p at 60 frames I am sure they mean that 720p will be at 60 frames and 1080p will be at 30 frames but it just strikes me as they are just trying to blend 1080p in the mix and say something that at the moment 1080p is not capable of.
It really is no big deal and I have no idea why your panties are in such a bunch and you have to start calling people names which only a total troll would do.
All of this is off topic do you have anything to add regarding tekken? If not i can be stupid you can be an asshole and we can call it quits. You are not going to understand what I am trying to say and i am not going to understand you, so to quote one of your posts lets "agree to disagree"
Pheidias
Jan 5 2007, 07:53 AM
I'm just amazed that you say no monitor/tvs can do 60 frames at 1080 but alot can. And then you acctually say that Sony is talking BS.
But hey I guess if you in some way think that there are some set of rules that say that you can't proclaim a game runs at 60 frames at 1080p unless you mlmadmax have a 1080p60 hdtv in your own home or something. And i'm not sure why you need them to be native 1080 its like saying lcds don't count for 720p (90% are 1366*768)
I'm just tired of unneccesary dirt slinging from people who don't know what they are talking about.
Just enjoy the game now that you got it. Here's a tekken 5 DR Question for you how big are the extra dl cg movies?
Foe-hammer
Jan 5 2007, 09:19 AM
If i understood m_hael correctly, there is currently no 1080p60 HDTV's. Computer monitors do, though. And 1080p is known in the dev community as 1080p30. And that sony is full of crap when they say at 60fps. Correct me if i'm wrong, m_hael.

That is the only proof i have on the subject, where is yours that there are 1080p60 HDTV's?
Pheidias
Jan 5 2007, 05:12 PM
I have never said anything about 1080p60 hdtvs. I'm talking about the fact mlmadmax said sony where talking bullshit when they said 1080p at 60 frames and claimed its not possible wich it obviously is.
Lg just announced that they are bringing 9 1080p lcd models to CES and they all accept 1080p60.
mlmadmax
Jan 5 2007, 07:31 PM
QUOTE(mlmadmax @ Dec 27 2006, 01:29 PM)

Correct me if i am wrong, but NO game can run at 60 frames per second on a 1080p30 tv i wish sony would stop with the bs.

If you notice I only mention a game running at 60 frames on a 1080p30 TV which is impossible so learn how to read you fucking moron. Also 1080p60 TV's don't exist yet and you have yet to prove otherwise oh and TV's that aren't out yet don't count.
There is also a difference between a computer monitor and an HDTV.
I tried to end this off topic discussion civilly but now I wish this thread would die along with you.
Pheidias
Jan 5 2007, 11:53 PM
Well then shouldn't you learn to read statements then? How can you say sony is BS-ing when you are the only one that has brought up 1080p30 hdtvs. Neither sony or the statement says anything about 1080p30 hdtvs and them being capable of p60. I'm just curious how you put all this together... funny man funny
mlmadmax
Jan 6 2007, 12:10 AM
Since there currently is no such thing as a 1080p60 hdtv then what they are saying is bs.
QUOTE(mlmadmax @ Jan 4 2007, 01:40 PM)

When sony say's the game will play at 720p or 1080p at 60 frames I am sure they mean that 720p will be at 60 frames and 1080p will be at 30 frames but it just strikes me as they are just trying to blend 1080p in the mix and say something that at the moment 1080p is not capable of.
There is nothing funny about you not being able to read, if you read my quote you can see what my opinion is regarding why i think sony is bull shitting. It doesn't help when they make comments like all games will run at full 1080p at 120fps when HDTV's can't even do it let alone there console.
Again i don't know why you are making such a big deal out of it i guess you just like to make yourself look like an idiot.
alsybub
Jan 6 2007, 04:27 AM
QUOTE(Pheidias @ Jan 5 2007, 11:00 PM)

Well then shouldn't you learn to read statements then? How can you say sony is BS-ing when you are the only one that has brought up 1080p30 hdtvs. Neither sony or the statement says anything about 1080p30 hdtvs and them being capable of p60. I'm just curious how you put all this together... funny man funny
I really don't like to get involved in arguments BUT....
Wasn't it mlmadmax's point that Sony haven't said anything about the fact that there is no way of displaying 1080p60 on current screens? You just proved his argument.
He was mearly saying that there is no screen that currently outputs 1080p60 natively and.................it's true.
It does not matter if a screen accepts a signal and displays it at a different refresh rate or if it is able to scale it to a different resolution (yes, I know the majority of flat HDTVs are 1366x768, that's the point here).
Sony is pushing software on the premis that it runs at 1080p60 when in actual fact there is currently no way of utilising that resolution regardless of what post processing the screen does or whether the PS3 outputs the signal.
No one is disputing the output it's the representation on screen.
That would mean that, it is indeed a little misleading if you do not know that screens are not capable of outputting the literal, pixel for pixel and refresh rate, signal that is advertised on the box.
Foe-hammer
Jan 6 2007, 08:48 AM
QUOTE(Pheidias @ Jan 5 2007, 09:19 AM)

Lg just announced that they are bringing 9 1080p lcd models to CES and they all accept 1080p60.
Link, please?
Pheidias
Jan 6 2007, 11:39 AM
Why do they always want links (there are too many articles on engadget so I can't be bothered to fetch the link) . And the 1920*1200 monitors that I linked to previously all will display every pixel of the 1920*1080 and its 60 frames so there are current screens that can display everything of the 1080p60 signal. And there are acctually other regular hdtvs that do 1080p60 sony has one and pioneer another, just can't be bothered yet again to get the links. But unless anyone can get me links that says there isn't any hdtvs that can handle 1080p60 then its moot anyways.
Oh and would you people acctually prefer that the games ran at 1080p30 then p60? I almost get the feeling you do.
mlmadmax
Jan 6 2007, 07:17 PM
If you plugged the ps3 into a computer monitor that had a native resolution of 1920 by 1200 the image would be streched to fill the screen because computer monitors don't have a scaler in them. It would look less than optimum. Also all the games that only output at 720p would look like total ass on said monitor.
Again i never mentioned computer monitors because they are less than optimal to use with the PS3.
I would love all my games at 1080p60 it would be great but since the technology isn't there yet thems the breaks.
Pheidias
Jan 7 2007, 12:14 AM
Yeah I know this got out of hand. I just found it funny that you accuse Sony for BS for the fact that a games runs at 1080p60 just cos you claim no tv can handle it.
I myself wish that the games on consoles nowadays should atleast manage to never drop below 30 frames but it seems hardly noone do.
mlmadmax
Jan 7 2007, 05:33 AM
Actually I now at this time no tv can handle 1080p60 and several other people agree.
It is a shame that some games on both the ps3 and the 360 can't maintain 30 fps but when things are at high resolutons it happens.
Pheidias
Jan 7 2007, 10:36 AM
Yeah but I'd rather get a bit crappier graphics then unplayable (IMO) games like project 8 on the ps3 and x360.
alsybub
Jan 7 2007, 04:38 PM
Project 8 is indeed irritating but a good game none-the-less.
cloudyimpulse
Jul 10 2007, 03:40 AM
So has there been any word on when the Online Update is coming out?
Kamasutra318
Jul 17 2007, 08:51 PM
QUOTE(cloudyimpulse @ Jul 9 2007, 11:16 PM)

So has there been any word on when the Online Update is coming out?
This year. Sorry, but that's as specific as Namco Bandai was.
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