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Tutorial On Making Backup With Xbc / Imgburn
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This tutorial will help you do your X360 and Xbox1 backup using Xbox Backup Creator v2.8 (XBCr). This new version of XBCr will also burn you X360 Backup using the XBCr burning engine or with imgburn v2.4 by calling Imgburn for you with all the adequate parameters. (note that this Tutorial was prepared with v2.4 and Imgburn 2.2 but the same applies to v2.8 and Imgburn 2.4)

If you require to install these applications see the second post of this thread.

RIPPING
1-Open XBCr* ,

2-Select your ripping drive like SH-D162C (other model in the pinned topic) or Samsung/Benq drive**(FW xtreme800). Note that Hitachi do not allow to extract SS and therefore games
3-Place your game in the drive, (It will see the small video partition of a few MB)
4-Press Start , select the directory and enter a name
5-When completed, you will get a 7 651 848KB ISO ( or 7.29GB) or 7,651,262KB depending on the x360 games. If you use a version prior to 2.5 or do not activate the Splitvid then the files will be 7,395,392KB or 7.05GB. The .iso for Xbox1 will be 7,258,816KB (or 6.92GB) without splitvid.
6-You can verify the stealth/iXtreme compliance as per Media Stealth: What is needed and How To Verify, (DMI, PFI, Video Partition, Samsung SS) . It is not absolutely required since all is extracted with the adequate method and tools, but you can still make sure all is fine.



ALL DONE, TIME TO BURN.

*The real application looks much better without the watermark , but to the guys who took pictures here last time and did not mention the source, SHAME on them.




BURNING METHOD A: WITH XBCr **

1-Open XBCr* , select XBC as burning engine

2-Select your burning drive ,
3-Place a blank DVD+R DL the drive, and select writing speed (if the start button remains grey, you have not selected the proper drive or do not have a DVD +R DL in the drive)
4-Press Start , select the .ISO file you have just created (or the .DVD which will not make a difference here)
5-When completed, enjoy

**Not all burners are supported (but close )



BURNING METHOD B: WITH IMGBURN

1-Open XBCr* , select IMGBURN as burning engine

2-Select your burning drive ,
3-Place a blank DVD+R DL the drive, and select writing speed (if the start button remains grey, you have not selected the proper drive or do not have a DVD +R DL in the drive)
4-Press Start , select the .ISO file you have just created (or the .DVD which will not make a difference here)
5-Imgburn will start and tell “You should have selected the dvd file…”, click OK
6-When completed, imgburn will close, enjoy

VERIFYING A BURN


1-You can validate that the burn was done with the appropriate layerbreak, booktype and that the image burnt corresponds to the image file on HD. The method is presented in the thread How to verify a burn . Note that this is not required and simply a validation.

2-You can also verify the stealth/iXtreme compliance as per Media Stealth: What is needed and How To Verify, (DMI, PFI, Video Partition, Samsung SS) .

IMGBURN INSTALL
You can download Imgburn at imgburn v2.3 , and use the installer.

• When used through XBCr do not set the layerbreak to manual, XBCr will manage this for you. In Tools/Settings/Write/Options Layerbreak should be “Calculate Optimal”.
• With the latest firmware (Hitachi v2.3 and Samsung 3.1+) the booktype setting at DVD-ROM is not required, but it does not hurt. You can set it in Tools/Drive/Change Book Type/'Your burner Brand' select 'change For:' to a 'DVD +R DL MEDIA' and in 'New Setting' choose DVD-ROM + hit Change.
• Some LG and Samsung burner do not have permanent bitsetting (stored in the Burner memory) like for most burner. They require the software to do it before each burn, this can be selected in Tools/Settings/Write/check Auto ‘Change Book Type’.

XBOX BACKUP CREATOR INSTALL
You can get XBCr from the link at the top of the thread and extract it in a directory, nothing more to do. Simply run “Xbox Backup Creator.exe”.

• Imgburn (and Nero) if they are already installed on your PC will show in the scroll window when XBCr starts (1). If imgburn is not listed in the windows, you can open the selection window by using the “…” button (2) and indicating the location of the “ImgBurn.exe” file (3).
  
• If you have problems loading XBCr make sure you have .NET installed (windows updater), and VB6 runtimes + mscomctl.ocx which are included in the installer as “Xbox Backup Creator v2.4.exe”. Only do this step if you have problems.
• Vista: Plse use the included installer. Some people had to turn on User Account Control (UAC) and make sure it was run as admin.
• Not seeing your TS-H943A: Turn off the "FW Branding Check" on the options tab unless you need it (A hitachi branded as samsung or opposite). For those using a VIA6421 card, you should try using the version 5.2 of the Via drivers (here)

SOME COMMON PROBLEMS

• Ripping is extremely long (30+ minutes): Your Drive is probably not in DMA Mode (Went in PIO Mode). You can change that in Device Manager and can easily be found via Google .
• Getting an error during the rip
  -You have this with all your games then it is probably a setup problem, if you are using a SH-D162C you can try moving it Primary/Secondary IDE and Master/Slave.
  -You have that with only one game then clean your disk very well. If that does not resolve it could be your original is damage or marginal (see this post).
• You are getting “Unknown Partition size. Used bytes = 5.32 MB” then upgrade to XBCr 2.4.
• During the burn if you are getting “Session Fixation Errors”, “Optimum Power Calibration failures”, or “Invalid Write Address failures”, they are usually due to low quality media or a defective burner if you were using adequate media (look at this post).

Rgds, soso

NME BACKUPS
after you have completed the RIPPING section:

• method 1: you open the NME-360 aSSociat0r.exe, select convert, choose the file and hit Convert.
  or
• method 2: reopen XBCr/drive tools/securitysector save as SSnme.bin, open the NME-360 aSSociat0r.exe, select merge, choose the game file & SSnme.bin and hit Create.

Note:
-that this is for X360 games only as indications are that NME chips do not support Xbox 1 Backups.
-You must first make sure that your chip is functioning properly ( Modchip Development / Research ).

Single Layer Backups
Only Xbox 1 titles can be made on SL disc and it requires FW 5.3 or prior on your X360 samsung Drive (iXtreme does not support Sl anymore and Hitachi drive never supported that feature)

1. Do your iso like you would do it for a dual layer backup (xbox 1) as per tutorial above
2. Instead of burning, open Xdvdmulleter,
3. select Build an ISO, Next
4. Load from file, select the ISO, next
5. select Create DVD5 ISO, next
6. region, next
7. For SS file , Load from source iso (you may have to select generic for DVD5), next
8. Sealth sectors, Use source ISO, Next
9. layout, optimize for Disk or load a layout file if you have one
10. make iso

rgds,soso

Hello,

I´ve done some backups with this tutorial: http://team-underdog.com/howto.html

For all backups this works fine. Now with the game "test drive unlimited" I´ll get the information
on the screen: "Please insert game into a 360 box"

What else can I do? I don`t want to destroy lot´s of dvd´s (Verbatine)

1) try again with schtrom 3.2 (my last one was 3.1)?
2) backup creator 2.4?

I`ve got the chip NME, SH-D162C+Kreon 0.81

Thanks in advance for your help

you can try the two method above, as good as I can give you because I do not have a NME to test.

It seems the SS is not good so it is either
1) extraction of the SS (how was it done)
or the
2) transfer to NME SS position (method 1 or 2)

if your other backup are working that is all I see (you could try backup another game)

rgds,soso

Thanks for the quick reply Soso,

The SS was done by the program (Schtrom, Version 3.1), then the iso blown up with the program NME_aSSociat0r, vers. 0.3. I´ve burned it with the imgburn. All other backup works fine, done like written before.
I´ve now done another backup with schtrom 3.2 and one with the backup creator 2.4.

Actually I´m off Verbatim. After receiving them I will inform all, if it works.

Best regards.

Hello again,

Now it works

I´ve used the Schtrom 360Xtract V2.3, then the NME-360 aSSociatOr and burned it with the imgburn.
I also tryed a cheaper dvd (Memorex).

So if somebody have a problem with test drive, he should use the upper mentioned programs.

Best regards.

just wondering if any one has come across this prolem. i tried to rip the Winning11 JAP version using xbc 2.3 and sh-d162c, all i get after ripping is 7.05 GB image. surely it's not correct but what i have done wrong?

what is the question exactly?
-is it that the image is always 7.05BG (if so they are all that size)
rgds, soso

if i'm not wrong, the image after ripping should always be 7.3GB but mine is always 7.05gb so it does not work. tried the burnt disc at both native JAP and PAL consoles same result. this is my first back up game that does not work using xbc and sh-d162c. i just want to know if there is a special method to back uop this game?

you are wrong, it is suppose to be 7,395,392KB (not 7.3GB). Since converting from KB to MB to GB requires to divide by 1024 (not 1000 since it is binary based) that gives 7,395,392KB /1024/1024=7.05GB.

That 7.05GB is mentionned often, a bit of research plse


rgds,soso

thanks for your help. i just don't know why winning11 does not work for me used same method doing the back up. i thought the size of the image might be the issue as it's a bit smaller than those worked images that i did.

Great Work! I followed BURNING METHOD B: WITH IMGBURN 2.3 with my NEC DVD RW ND-2500A(Flashed With Herrie's NEC Firmware to NEC DVD RW ND-2510A) burned Tetris Evolution on Verbatim DVD+RL 2.4x and everything worked FINE!!! Once again great tutorial!

Strange error: The start button on my Xbox Backup Creator is not clickable... Why is that?

mine was like that..then i noticed i had the wrong dvd drive selected

My start button wont light either!!! It reads the drive and reports

Found ODD: TSSTcorp DVD-ROM SH-D162C TS04 at [0:0]
Getting media info [0:0]

Media Type: DVD-ROM
Bytes Used: 6.87 MB (7,206,912 bytes)

also

Found ODD: TSSTcorp DVD-ROM SH-D162C TS04 at [Z]
Additional Info: XB360 KREON V0.81
Nero v7.5.7.0
ImgBurn 2.2.0.0 is available
ImgBurn - The Ultimate Image Burner! by LIGHTNING UK!
Getting media info [Z]

I've tried reinstalling the program twice. Am I missing something?

TIA

Eureka!!! I solved my own problem. XBC does NOT, I repeat DOES NOT work with slysoft AnyDVD or CloneCD Tray running! Disable these and turn off autostart and you shouldn't have any more problems. Also scale back the DMA and PIO in the bios seams to help since this is an older drive. I scaled back from UltraDMA to MAXDMA and PIO 4 to PIO 3 with complete success.

Good luck to all

does anybody know what this means

Xbox Backup Creator v2.5 Build:0230 By Redline99

Found ODD: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4165B DG01 at [E]
Additional Info: 
Nero API is not available
ImgBurn executable not found

thanks

you probably do not have nero or imgbrun installed on your PC.

not a problem since you can still brun by selecting XBC engine.

rgds, soso

it should not prevent you from extracting, what drive are you using to extract?

rgds, soso

dvd + - rw dl multi format drive i think

Well , respectfully , you should do a lot more reading. Because all tutorial and the smallest amount of reading of the pinned Backup Faq - Everything* You Need To Know PLEASE READ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS! would have told you that you cannot use your regular burner for that.

also in the tutorial above "Select your ripping drive like SH-D162C (other model in the pinned topic)"

There are only 4 PC drives that can do backup (shd162c and 3 others) with xbcr, also the x360 samsung.

otherwise you need to use wxripper.

time for some reading in the pinned section

rgds, soso

check the pinned for the pioneer 112 thread,
pretty sure this is a the retail version of the pioneer 112, anyway the pioneers all do good for x360 backup.
rgds, soso

[size=6] hiii , thnx alot for the flawless method , but i have a small problem , iam getting only the main iso file of 7.05 GB , and i didnt get the 1 kb .DVD file .

my question is : can i just burn this .iso file with imgburn or nero or any other without the .dvd file ???

plz help me .....

(note : ive tried to read using 2 different drives one is LG extrnal DVD writer model GSA-E10L , and the other is philips DVD writer , and using both i got only one file )...

thnx aloooot

first forget the size 6 font for a regular post !!!

second why would xbcr not give you a .dvd file.
redo you backups from the original with XBCr or schtrom and you will have all you need.

rgds, soso

ok no fonts , lolz

thnx for the quick answer , and sorry 2 trouble u , but wht is schtrom ???

thnx again

similar as XBCreator ,
also very good Schtrom.
only for extraction, must burn separately with Imgburn.

-soso

i got the samsung SH-S182 burner sold at best buy, it makes perfect backups

Hi,
I am a newbie and want to know if I use XBC 2.5 and Imburn to backup my original xbox1 game, can the backup game play on the XBOX1 (hack one)? Thanks in advance for the info.

no, backup made for x360, will only boot on x360.
xbox1 requires patched xbe files

if you are looking for a way to backup a Xbox1 game with XBCr/shd162c for use in a Xbox1, then look at How To Do Xbox 1 Backup From Your Pc Only.

good luck
soso

I have a TS-H943A and XBC 2.5 see's it fine and sees the disc, but shows a huge size (4 TB) with any game disc I try. Also my start button is greyed out. I have no problem ripping images with schtrom32 and burning with imgeburn so I know my SATA Card (VIA1642) my connection and drive are fine. Any ideas why I am getting the greyed out start buttion with XMC? And how about the strange disc size it reads?

Thanks,

Ron

im new to backing up, first 3 discs failed on write.

I used xbc2.5 and imgburn 2.3 to make backups of both my nhl2k7 and college hoops 2k7. No problems at all reading and making images, but when burning i'm getting crc write errors.

first 2 burns lasted until 2% and 15% before crc errors

third burn I used xbc to write, it resulted in a failed write.

everything done according to tutorial. I using a pioneer 111d, kreon drive, and verbatim +r dl
2.4x write speed, burner is only a couple months old. I tested by burning a full data dvd is it was good

any suggestions? I might install a new hard drive and fresh copy of xp tomorrow

ok it was my HD. when I was backing up my stuff before new HD install I was getting crc errors on some files. I moved the kreon and burner to another system and ran XBC for read and write, 100% success on 2 originals.

is there any quality difference in writing when using XBCr or imgBurn?

i burned 8 backups (read with a kreon fw drive) with no problems and have used both imgbrn and xbcr, just wondering what is supposed to be the best if any difference at all

I wanna tell everybody that there is no problem if you are not having a small DVD file under the image. I´ve burned 11 games, all without any dvd file, could anyone tell what it actually i doing there for?

the file was there to communicate where to separate the first and second layer.
If you burn without xbc and do not set the layerbreak manually, then you need it to say where to split.

When using XBC engine or XBC to call imgburn, all of that is manage by XBC so it is more or less useless.

-soso

Newbie question - (I didn't think I was a newbie, but I guess I am!)...

Is there a way to check a current backup for SS, Stealth, PFI, etc... from the backup (already on a DVD DL and working) without having to re-extract it first? I tried to simply use XBOX Creator v2.5, however after loading it simply shows basic info... Anything else I try to do seems to require an ISO or the vid files and will not seem to look to the DVD DL backup in the drive for the additional information.

With all the talk as of late, just want to go through backups and ensure they were done correctly...

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks!

Woops, think I just found a link on how to do it... I'll ask again if I'm wrong

I'm using XBC v2.5, my 360 drive is a samsung MS25...

I have a xtrm0800.bin file which came along with my Xtreme 5.2 package. If I flash this file into the drive, will I be able to make a 100% copy (DMI, PFI, SS, Video)?

you do not need to flash it the drive anymore, just burn it on dvd, and run it for 20 to 30 sec, they your drive will be seen in windows. Then the rip with XBC will have everything (video, dmi, pfi).

-soso

This file I'm speaking of is only 256Kb.

So I just burn a normal dvd with this file on it and leave it runnig for 20-30 secs? I also have a Enable0800 disk, but once I insert the game DVD, the drive disappears from windows.

I'm using Xtreme 5.3 now, and there is no xtrm0800 in the 5.3 package. So I guess this file I have is not even part of the 5.2 version either... maybe some earlier version.

version 4 and before I believe
-soso

maybe your drive is dying

@seve85

not a matter of firmware, but as a newcomer you should read the pinned Backup Faq - Everything* You Need To Know PLEASE READ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS!



as well as previous post ^^ of a thread. Both would have told you that your drive cannot extract games from original disc.

also, as per our rules, no backup of backup, plse do not discuss extraction from existing backups, only from original.

-soso

If i use my SH-D162c +kreon f/w and burn with imageburn on my 112d will my games be stealthed ,It's just a cant find any stealthing info when using the SH-D162c/112d.
Cheers for any help

Media Stealth: What is needed and How To Verify, (DMI, PFI, Video Partition, Samsung SS)

yes if you use SH-D162c +kreon f/w and XBC (or schtrom), you will get full stealth,

-soso

Anyone know what this error means DeviceIoControl (FSCTL)_Lock_Volume)failed! Device :[3:0:0] Sony DVD RW DRU-830a ss25(E:) (ATA) unable to lock volume for exchange access. Reason: Access Denied. Im using VERBATIM DVD+R DL.

is that trying to burn? (you sometimes get that at extraction)
is it your first? our you have others successful before?

also how was the image extracted: software, Drive/fw..?

-soso

"SOME COMMON PROBLEMS
Ripping is extremely long (30+ minutes): Your Drive is probably not in DMA Mode (Went in PIO Mode). You can change that in Device Manager and can easily be found via Google "

My ISO's are taking 60+ minutes to make... and i have googled and tried many of the suggestions to switch to DMA from PIO

1. Tried the script that changes and then u reset
2. Tried uninstalling the IDE primary and secondary and then resetting to have windows find
3. I have not tried bios but they say bios but not WHERE in bios

lastly i found that once a drive messes up 6 times or something it reverts to PIO permanently till something is done supposebly. I go to device manager and put DMA when available but the current transfer mode is constantly set at PIO....any suggestions?

Gt

Is it possible you have something else on that channel that does that (old device), try it by itself on that channel,
also
http://winhlp.com/WxDMA.htm

-soso

I tried to mess with it for a few hours yesterday and still got nothing.....i cannot for the life of me reset it to DMA and that has GOTTA be the problem. There wasnt any option within my bios to change it either. I reflashed it, reset my machine, changed the transfer mode back and forth, used the script, tried uninstalling it then having windows recognises it but still.....it remains in PIO

i think the only thing i can do to change it is just get an external enclosure and plug it via usb to subside this PIO horror....unless anyone knows any other ways to surpass it....i think ive tried everything except BIOS which i didnt see anything in there. If anyone is familiar with the intel chipset motherboard bios and knows how to change to DMA i guess lemme know. I think im going to get an external enclosure from best buy today (one that it used for hard drives with an IDE interface) and jsut rip out the wiring and use that for my drive.... i imagine that should work. Ill keep you all updated and if anyone thinks up anything in the meantime please post or PM me here


Gt