So I copied graw 2 (just so i dont scratch up the original) and booted it up, it worked fine then it asked to update so i did. Now the game wont boot at all, says its not a playable disc

What did you use to copy it (and version #)? I'm having trouble with it, period. I put it in to make a backup (first thing, so I can store the disc), but I'm getting "This is not a valid Xbox disc." from Schtrom. Interesting, they appear to be doing something with this one.

I should note I have the Samsung PC-Drive for my backups (with Kreon).

I had no problems with the latest Xbox Backup Creator.

plse post in the appropriate section,
moved,
soso

no issues here either - using xbc 2.4.x, verbatim dls on a pioneer 111d w/ tdb 1.29 fw. the only thing i have issue with is voip, but that happens to me in other games to??? and i have the same issue w/ the original and b/u

I've tried 3 times with XBC 2.4 - errors out

Also, program is really slow to come up when GRAW2 disk is in the drive, and drive makes funny noises (only on this game though)... very odd.

try starting xbc first ( iknow it sound ??), and you could also try Schtrom.
Maybe your Graw 2 disk is not the best!

rgds,soso

I should point out that my extraction problems were solved with going to Schtrom360 3.2. I was using 3.1 which couldn't detect the Xbox360 disc.