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SyphOnm
First i'd like to thank dfmos (Clearity-Beta-Remix) for helping me with the xml work.

About 10 days ago i approached him with some skin ideas.

I asked him if he would like to make a skin with me. He agreed biggrin.gif

We started this skin by using clearity skin as a base.

Just look at the screens and feel free to try. I included 2 extra color scheme's

Download url: http://members.home.nl/m.h.hendrikx/xbmc/Concept.rar

I still don't have a name for the skin so i was hoping u guys have some idea's.

Standard (Mint)

IPB Image

Orange

IPB Image

Blue

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Feel free to comment, post suggestions etc.
BecomethemonsteR
Looks promising! I can't wait to see a beta.
SyphOnm
Can't edit startpost anymore, so here it is in bigger font then in start post:

Download url:

http://members.home.nl/m.h.hendrikx/xbmc/Concept.rar

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Fused0ne
Very nice!

Just wanted to post a possible bug. When you are somewhere other then the HOME page, the time is behind the top black bar. And for example if your in Music, its not centered in the black bar if its suppose to be, but that could be resolution I guess.

But yeah the time is blocked by the black bar, and no time on the HOME page?

Great work!
SyphOnm
QUOTE(Fused0ne @ Apr 17 2007, 01:50 AM) *

Very nice!

Just wanted to post a possible bug. When you are somewhere other then the HOME page, the time is behind the top black bar. And for example if your in Music, its not centered in the black bar if its suppose to be, but that could be resolution I guess.

But yeah the time is blocked by the black bar, and no time on the HOME page?

Great work!


Fixed.

Updated the rar file.

Time on the home screen can be enabled @ skin options.
XBNormUK
Nice work, its a nice simple and clean working of the original skin.

I have literally just played with it for a few mins so my first impressions are.....

1. Lack of text on title screen for icons, ie, as you scroll from movies, pics, games whatever, I would prefer some text to show me what im currently highlighting. If the design is led by having no text then fine, leave it be because it does look nice and sleek, but maybe if that was the thinking you could make the text look like part of the background rather than a small text in a brighter colour jumping out at you. you could probably use a large text but knock down the opacity, fade it behind the background, something like this (obviously I dont have the layers to do it properly but maybe you get the idea.....
IPB Image

also, just thought, never skinned for XBMC so not sure how they work but if it needed an animation or anything rather than the text just changing you could just slide it in from the left to a fixed point on the right for each one.

2. Any chance of adding more view's, i am liking the large views in xtv at the mo so you see album art nice n big.

Just my thought anyways, Other than that good stuff, like I say havent had a proper play around yet.
SyphOnm
1. Check the skin options wink.gif
2. Will see.
XBNormUK
cool, very nice, Im liking it, and no bugs so far at all. Although I did notice there doesnt seem to be a way to play a disc from the home screen. Any chance of making an icon or play disc control pop up if there is a disc present?
SyphOnm
Sure,

i'll look in to that smile.gif
BecomethemonsteR
QUOTE(SyphOnm @ Apr 17 2007, 09:37 AM) *

Sure,

i'll look in to that smile.gif


NO DON'T! Don't put text on the main page. It is perfect the way it is. The icons could be a little bit bigger but it is fine the way it is. The only thing I seen out of place was the time behind the bar.
SyphOnm
QUOTE

NO DON'T! Don't put text on the main page. It is perfect the way it is. The icons could be a little bit bigger but it is fine the way it is. The only thing I seen out of place was the time behind the bar.


No i ment a disc icon when a disc is inserted to the xbox.

Text on the homescreen are already optional (Skin options under settings)

people just dont look good i guess tongue.gif

CHI3f
QUOTE(SyphOnm @ Apr 16 2007, 05:32 PM) *

First i'd like to thank dfmos

No credit to Smokehead for you know like..............................making Clearity.
shizzle01
he's right
SyphOnm
lol here we go:

thx to smokehead for making clearity

thx for xbox-scene for hosting these forums, thx to team xbmc for xbmc, thx to microsoft for making the actual xbox etc. etc.

did i forget anyone?
jazzen1
QUOTE(SyphOnm @ Apr 17 2007, 10:51 PM) *

lol here we go:

thx to smokehead for making clearity

thx for xbox-scene for hosting these forums, thx to team xbmc for xbmc, thx to microsoft for making the actual xbox etc. etc.

did i forget anyone?


No, u did not!

Keep up the good work, this is looking niiiice smile.gif

some things thoug... wouldnt it be nice if the animation on wrapping on homescreen is a bit smoother, like it is in some of the other skins. its a bit stakato. And the icons on homescreen are cool but have u tried with some thats a but more colorful?

The text on the homescreen are a bit misplaced and dull i think, is it possible to fresh it up a bit to match the skin better?

Like on homescreen the wrapview on music/video are a bit stakato on the animations... pm3 and others looks much smoother.... it it possible to fix that (maybe even make the one in focus a bit bigger)..


Thnx for a great skin!

-j


SyphOnm
Fixed the animations.

Rar file is updated.
artnada
Beautiful skin - thx for this.

1 question. I now have the text showing when you scroll the home buttons, I would like to change the text "Programs" to "games", but cannot find the exact file to alter. Could you please let me kow which .aml file I would need to alter.

home.xml
includes.xml or other?

Thank you.
SyphOnm
"XBMC\language\English\strings.xml" to change it permanent in the XBMC language

or

"XBMC\skins\Concept\PAL\HomeSubNavigation.xml"

CODE
<label>0</label>


Change it to

CODE
<label>Games</label>
artnada
thx alot - looked in there but never found that lol Need to get to the opticians biggrin.gif
ltGuillaume
When I run a script (XBMCScripts, Uitzending Gemist, haven't checked others) I can't see what I've selected: there is no selection bar at all... (using the latest version, April 18th)
SyphOnm
I know about that. Been trying to fix that all night.... sad.gif

Maybe someone else knows what the problem is? The original clearity skin has the same problem.

Jezz_X
Most likely because clearity uses Button-List.png
and most scripts look for list-focus.png because its what PM3 uses
SyphOnm
QUOTE(Jezz_X @ Apr 19 2007, 12:12 AM) *

Most likely because clearity uses Button-List-NoFocus.png
and most scripts look for list-focus.png because its what PM3 uses

ty smile.gif

I've just spent the last hour comparing pm3 / clearity (list views) hehe tongue.gif

Updated the rar file.
funkmasta
Why don't you add it to the SVN? I think it makes it convenient for all of us especially to help test changes to your skin.
jazzen1
The set background function doesnt work.. I have the newest xbmc build and the newest version of your skin. The background turns black.. Tried several background.

Im i the only one that has this prob?

And also the OSD does not fit the skin! It uses the PM3 OSD, will u make one thats more in the style of the rest of the skin?

cheers

-jazz
SyphOnm
QUOTE(jazzen1 @ Apr 19 2007, 09:21 AM) *

The set background function doesnt work.. I have the newest xbmc build and the newest version of your skin. The background turns black.. Tried several background.

Im i the only one that has this prob?

And also the OSD does not fit the skin! It uses the PM3 OSD, will u make one thats more in the style of the rest of the skin?

cheers

-jazz


Oh ok i'll look in to the background function. by OSD you mean audio osd? video osd has been redone. I'll fix the audio osd today smile.gif

jazzen1
QUOTE(SyphOnm @ Apr 19 2007, 09:42 AM) *

Oh ok i'll look in to the background function. by OSD you mean audio osd? video osd has been redone. I'll fix the audio osd today smile.gif



aaah.. g-g-g-g-reat.. yeah i mean the audio osd, havent checked the video smile.gif

I really like the way you are going with this skin mate.... still miss a bit smoother animation on the on focus items, both in music/video cover view and on the home page..

and also on the music/video view the items that are not focued are a bit to blurry/dused down i think, possble to make the a bit more easy to see, without loosing the onfocus effekt?

this is not critic, just suggestions/feedback. . I really like this skin and just smile.gif

Keep it up smile.gif
SyphOnm
Fixed:

Music OSD
Custom background switch

Rar file is updated.
ltGuillaume
1) When seeking in video (thumb stick), there's no indicator/'cursor' for where you're seeking.

2) As posted before, the font for the date/time in the home screen is much too small. Could you increase the size a bit?

3) Could the fonts of the buttons in the bottom bar be increased a bit? I have a 70cm widescreen, but still I have to walk to the TV to be able to read them. (Yeah I thought about buying glasses tongue.gif But seriously, the button font should really be increased a bit.)
phistyle
I just wanted to say sweet skin...this might just replace xtv for my xbox smile.gif I love the clean simple look of concept...
kics
cool skin, when do we see a beta ?
dfmos
kics - The Downloads on the first page of this thread
jazzen1
QUOTE(SyphOnm @ Apr 19 2007, 11:25 AM) *

Fixed:

Music OSD
Custom background switch

Rar file is updated.



Is it just me or is this still the same?

I downloaded the rar on the first page of this thred, but its the same OSD, and still no custom background.. it all turns black..

Also the animations are the same as before, not as smooth as they should be..

Does anyone else has this prob or is it just me?



SyphOnm
Sorry, put it in the wrong directory tongue.gif

Fixed now.
MrBaaco
Funny where I find GoT user!! Hahahaha

I'll try it tonight and will post feedback... First impression is very nice skin!
phistyle
I'm really loving the skin so far and only have like a few complaints/suggestions.... im not sure what the bar is called but the bar with the controls (menu) with play, ff, rew, video, audio is really small...if you can enlarge it it would be nice and maybe should the speed you are fast forwarding or rewinding...I think the bar from xtv would look or fit this skin perfectly..and one last suggestion...maybe making the animations faster..every time I click something it moves pretty slow...
ltGuillaume
QUOTE(phistyle @ Apr 21 2007, 10:56 AM) *

..and one last suggestion...maybe making the animations faster..every time I click something it moves pretty slow...

Seconded. For the rest... Best skin I've used smile.gif
BreEil
Amazing work!
SyphOnm
How about this theme?

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BreEil
nice, but i still prefer your original icons. this is definately my default theme now smile.gif
just a few things though, would it be possible to add now playing for music to the homescreen?
and when i hit the info button on my remote the fonts look very big, is this just me?
thanks SyphOnm
SyphOnm
When in homescreen and playing music, just pres start on the controller. I dont know what it is on the remote... So maybe you have to adjust your keymap.xml. Because i couldn't find it in the standard keymap.xml
BreEil
thanks for the info mate, i just changed my keymap.xml so that it launches the now playing screen when i press number 1 smile.gif
nick10293847
I love your work on this last xpr SyphOnm. The new bars are much better than the black ones.

While I like the look of the icons as they match the background, I would prefer each to be more unique so I can see what is selected more easily. For instance, a big video camera, a big set of headphones, etc. (i give this a go myself), Maybe even a much bigger font for the titles ie music, videos, pictures, settings, weather etc

I dont know if he would allow you but i really find dfmos split screen in the music section which shows what is playing as well as allowing you to browse.

I know this is from the original clearity but personally in the nowplaying screen i would prefer the song title to be bigger than it is. Right now the artist is a larger font and i dont see the logic for this as i am looking for what the title is more often than the artist.

Also i would love to see some better views in the movies and tv sections. In my opinion, alot of screen is wasted on 16/9. Im not sure what the view is called but i would love to see more movies fit on the screen like in the new front row skin. For the tv section one of the tv list views with big thumbnails like in xtv would be great. Also one of the new info views would be great.

There was something else but ive forgotten now.

I really like the skin so far and hope you continue with it cos youre heading in the right direction as far as i am concerned.
ltGuillaume
QUOTE(nick10293847 @ Apr 23 2007, 04:38 AM) *

I know this is from the original clearity but personally in the nowplaying screen i would prefer the song title to be bigger than it is. Right now the artist is a larger font and i dont see the logic for this as i am looking for what the title is more often than the artist.

Seconded. The new skin is really nice. Although I just wiped Vista from my harddisk to install XP again, its visuals are nice 'n fresh, as does your new skin look.
SyphOnm
Ok working on some fixes now smile.gif
sausje
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SyphOnm
Are these icons better?

IPB Image

Or does anyone have a better idea for the icons?
phistyle
that looks sweet but how about making the whilte part of the icon the same color as the vista background? or even making the black square white?
pspreston


GREAT Skin - Thanks for the work. Looks clean in 1080i 16x9
nick10293847
Yeh i like these icons more but i would really prefer them if you made the title about 10 times bigger beneath them. Like in the mockup someone posted earlier. I just think it would make navigating from across the room alot easier.

But hey, thats just my opinion and i dont speak for everyone.

Really appreciate the work your doing on this.
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