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Sharpe
Yeah I've already added that - it's under skin settings
Sharpe
I've also just added an option in skin settings that removes "Settings" from the Home screen and puts it into the sub-menu dialogue.
maximusoctavious
Thanks again Sharpe....Sorry to ask for the dvd view mod, but I can't help myself. Love your work bud.
RSkillz
Ty for reading my post and implementing it! smile.gif

Will update today and check out the results
maximusoctavious
http://www.4shared.com/file/26483075/f6707...l?cau2=403tNull
New dvd style I came up with. Also if Sharpe needs this for test.
djdafreund
Link is broken, but i did get to see the picture earlier with my phone during my lunch hour while browsing the forums.(Yeah, i'm a big xs junkie. LOL) The overlay does look nice, but i would recommend to remove the 'DVD' word and replace it with something like "Play" or something. 'DVD' is kind of obvious with the dvd coming out of the side, or even the case the content might be just video's and not even from a dvd. But play fits better because it's being used as a selection form or description. Just my thoughts of course. But i do like it myself, nice job. No offence meant by my suggestion.
Sharpe, would it be possible, about the idea of having a wrap mode home page, to do something like this, added as a skin option (some other skins allow this, so it's possible by design.) to have a wrape mode for the home page. Like instead of only showing 1 icon at a time, and flipping left or right, it would show say 3-4 on screen, and would flip left/right, so you could better see your selection. I could do up some mockups to better illustrate it would function this way and yet still not loose the beauty of the skin if you think you may have SOME interests in doing something like this. Also, thanks for adding the DVD wrap mode. Very nice!!! Could you possibly have the text on top of the cover, rather then a little to the right like current? Or even below. Either one would be nice.
maximusoctavious
Thanks for the advice Dida. I will redo the case using the word play. Then upload the kit here. Also many thanks to the talented Sharpe for all his side fixes he does for me.
maximusoctavious
Here you go dida....if someone can do better, then by all means do so. This is a project i'm messing around with since I can't get anyone to help.

http://www.4shared.com/file/26567499/9d424...l?cau2=403tNull
Sharpe
QUOTE(djdafreund @ Oct 15 2007, 10:31 PM) *

...Sharpe, would it be possible, about the idea of having a wrap mode home page, to do something like this, added as a skin option (some other skins allow this, so it's possible by design.) to have a wrape mode for the home page. Like instead of only showing 1 icon at a time, and flipping left or right, it would show say 3-4 on screen, and would flip left/right, so you could better see your selection. I could do up some mockups to better illustrate it would function this way and yet still not loose the beauty of the skin if you think you may have SOME interests in doing something like this. Also, thanks for adding the DVD wrap mode. Very nice!!! Could you possibly have the text on top of the cover, rather then a little to the right like current? Or even below. Either one would be nice.


Hi fella - yeah please free to do mockups, if you don't mind - I'll certainly see what I can do and they'd be useful to refer to. Be a bit of big(ish) job - mainly because of the way the homescreen is setup but it's always possible I suppose.

I've also taken on what you've said about the label being on the right - it's something I was trying but I've gone back to a more conventional label under the image.


djdafreund
QUOTE(maximusoctavious @ Oct 15 2007, 07:13 PM) *

Here you go dida....if someone can do better, then by all means do so. This is a project i'm messing around with since I can't get anyone to help.

http://www.4shared.com/file/26567499/9d424...l?cau2=403tNull

Hey, i appreciate that. Lemme play with it some and see.

QUOTE(Sharpe @ Oct 15 2007, 07:44 PM) *

Hi fella - yeah please free to do mockups, if you don't mind - I'll certainly see what I can do and they'd be useful to refer to. Be a bit of big(ish) job - mainly because of the way the homescreen is setup but it's always possible I suppose.

I've also taken on what you've said about the label being on the right - it's something I was trying but I've gone back to a more conventional label under the image.

Thanks for such a nice skin. I use it quite abit now. Mostly actually, on my theater xbox, which i use mostly. Lemme have some funand see what i can come up with. And other's feedback as well. Hopefully they will look good enough to consider.
craze7
dont know how i never looked at this topic before, just read through the 5 pages there and i have to say the skin looks great in the screen caps and how u listen to peoples feed back is great keep up the good work man...

downloadin the skin as we speak, will review tomorrow!!!!
maximusoctavious
Thanks a million there Sharpe. Skin just keeps on gettin better & better.
maximusoctavious
This is the only thing I forgot to mention. Is it possable to create a toggle botton for wallpaper for replacement for your "BACK-Row" 800x400 wallpaper. I love the curtains but I thought it would be sweet to have the option to place movie wallpaper that changes wallpaper every few seconds. & for thoughs that don't want it, they can just uncheck toggle wallpaper. Everyone can create a folder & place what they want inside, & the pics can change every couple of seconds.....

When a skin has this many views, and this many toggles......It stands above the rest....
uli666
Hi Sharpe!
Your skin is totally awesome!

Here are my suggestions:
- In the new DVD Wrap visualization would be possible to have a DVD case overlay? And to put the label on top of images instead that under them (they cover the very nice reflection).
- Would be possible to have a DVD Wrap visualization (with green DVD case overlay) also in the Apps?
- In Music would be nice to have a CD Wrap visualization with CD case overlay and when playing music a new screen showing the cover quite big (with all related info about album, song, duration, etc.).

I hope you can understand what I mean (especially for the last one).
Let me know what do you think about that.

Thanks for your great skinning work going on and on on a daily basis. smile.gif

Uli666
maximusoctavious
That would be nice. Especially the music cd case over the music.
Sharpe
Thanks for the feedback and the suggestions guys - it's appreciated and really helps to give me ideas of what to work on next.

I'll have a think and maybe see what I can do - when I get a bit of free time.
Sharpe
QUOTE(maximusoctavious @ Oct 16 2007, 11:16 PM) *

This is the only thing I forgot to mention. Is it possable to create a toggle botton for wallpaper for replacement for your "BACK-Row" 800x400 wallpaper. I love the curtains but I thought it would be sweet to have the option to place movie wallpaper that changes wallpaper every few seconds. & for thoughs that don't want it, they can just uncheck toggle wallpaper. Everyone can create a folder & place what they want inside, & the pics can change every couple of seconds.....



That's now in place - put what ever backgrounds you want in the wallpaper folder (in the skin's media folder) and then select the Wallpaper toggle in skin settings. It will then cycle through your own backgrounds instead of using the Cinema Curtains themed stuff.

Cheers
maximusoctavious
QUOTE:It will then cycle through your own backgrounds instead of using the Cinema Curtains themed stuff.
Is it possable to have the cutains animation? I still love this very much. I will download & try this new build. Thanks Sharpe....
maximusoctavious
Fantastic Job! Wow. The only thing that I really want is the curtain animation back. This really makes the theme in the opening. Without it, it feels like something is really missing. Great job again Sharpe. I just kept the new feature disabled until the curtains come back. sad.gif
Sharpe
QUOTE(maximusoctavious @ Oct 20 2007, 05:12 PM) *

QUOTE:It will then cycle through your own backgrounds instead of using the Cinema Curtains themed stuff.
Is it possable to have the cutains animation? I still love this very much. I will download & try this new build. Thanks Sharpe....


No I don't think so. It looks wrong, imo, going from random custom wallpaper to the curtains opening from nowhere. Just doesn't look right.

Although I could alter your own "home.xml" if you really want it to work that way.
maximusoctavious
Everythings greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat. Yeah baby!
maximusoctavious
Sharpe, there is so much going on with this baby I keep forgetting to ask you. In the dvd wrap view can u add another toggle for the red curtains? It would really add to the depth of the dvd view. Thanks a bunch.
Droools.....
maximusoctavious
Found small bug in new wallpaper? On the top of the screen u can still see parts of the red curtians. Looks a little funky. Only on some parts of the wallpaper? Maybe u can have the skin stretch out on the sides and top
for the wallpaper. This way everthing looks equally balanced. Nice updates.....
Sharpe use my wallpaper I sent u to see what I mean?
Sharpe
Yeah, that's something only you'll have seen because of the custom home.xml I did for you. I've just fixed it for you - check your PM's.
shizzle01
sharpe can u do me a fever and upload the skin on a different site?
Sharpe
here you go shizzle

http://www.sendspace.com/file/i4d58e
shizzle01
sorry for bothering you but, the thing is im on my bed right now using linksboks and that link isnt working becouse of java. never mind i download it the first thing tomorow
maximusoctavious
Man your to much bro. What a character. If theres anything I can help you with (mainly graphics) just holla.
Thanks alot man. Droools rolleyes.gif
djdafreund
Hey Sharpe, one way i just thought of, about having the icon flip mode on home page, is displaying the icon list on an image of a marquee in the center. The marquee imagewould be added big on top of he theater screen already there. I'll just have to see about how to do a mockup of that.But i wanted to run the idea b you as to how i was thinking about the layout of doing it. Thought that would be pretty wicked.
maximusoctavious
Dida do the mockup. I would like to see what it is your talking about. I'm off to smoke some bud. See ya guys.
djdafreund
It's confusing me who Dida is? If it's me, it's DJDafreund, i guess after looking at it the underline is going through the j, looking sort of like an i. Funny. Never noticed that. Anyway, i'll make some mockups then, and enjoy your. . erm. . TIME, yeah.
Sharpe
Sounds like a good plan djdafreund - although for a brief moment there I thought by "marquee" you thinking of sticking a giant tent onto the homescreen but then realised that would be crazy design at work biggrin.gif

Sharpe
Okay well I had some spare time today so I've put an alternate home screen in place - I'll probably alter the design based on what djdafreund comes up with but, with all the code in place already, that should be easy enough.

It's selectable in skin settings.

IPB Image
maximusoctavious
Not bad. But I still prefer the old way. Thats the beauty of toggle. Everyones happy.
shizzle01
OMFG ohmy.gif now i will switch to this skin from PMIII smile.gif
djdafreund
Sharpe, i did not give you permission to read my mind!!!! Wow that's eerie buddy. I had 2 idea's in mind to do mockups for. One was for going horizontal, which is EXACTLY how you did it, filmstrip and all, and the other was goig vertical, using a theater marquee, showing a couple in the list that way. That way i had both sides covered, in case you liked one or the other. Thanks!!!! I will scrtch on the mockup then since it's already what i was looking for.

Man, it's already my default's, and my room mate's as well. VERY NICE!!! and keeps getting better. Now on to some idea's (since your so awesome wth being open minded)

1) Possible to have the 'TOGGLE CURTAINS" when skin option clicked, means it shows it, instead of not showing it. Seems more logic, when ticked is on state. (Tick is enabling option.)
2) Maybe an option to show curtains in wide and big wide views? I know for contrast purposes text might be harder to read when in covers or list mode, but when using wide banners, it won't hurt viewing, since there big and easy to read, no matter whats on background, because of the banners having the title inside them anyways.
3) Possible to include either a 'Now Showing' dialog box around selected when in those views (already has them in most others) Reason, the selected is just a little bigger now, so it would make it easier to see on the eyes which one is actually highlighted, when flipping through stuff. Currently there's only a little difference in sizes from selected, and not selected. Or, just make the selected bigger yet.
4) Make the selected in Plotview bigger then the others ( like in DVD cover view.), to mak it easier to notice. (Not that it's hard now, but just for other people not so used to xbox's, like company or friends.)
5) Also in plot view, tv shows within are showing a blank black box (of course, since a lot of shows don't have specific info for each season.), but a fix could be to also just show the shows info (like it does when showing the actual tv shows themselves.), so it's at least not blank. I don't know if this would be difficult or not with the way xbmc is set up with the xml files.

Hope those are cool idea's for now.
djdafreund
Ooops, missed my edit window timing. After messing with it. I noticed (at friend's house now, using 4x3 tv), that if possible could the home filmstrip be either moved in the center or at least higher like maybe above the bottom of curtain higher. Currently it's covering both the weather icon info, as well as hiding the dvd icon in lower right corner area. Looks great though!!! Thanks.
Sharpe
Thanks - some good ideas - I'll work on them next!

I'll sort the film strip out tonight though.

Cheers

maximusoctavious
Thanks Sharpe it worked like a charm. I didn't care for the new home screen personally, but thats the beauty of your skin. The magic toggle. Sorry about the mistake on your name up there buddy. Should have caught that one. Sharpe maybe if you used an animated black film strip centered in the middle with the icons incased in some type of concession glass booth? I don't know if someone here has the ability of the gif's. But something of this nature would be groundbreaking if possable. Maybe have 2 film strips overlapping with one film strip sliding over the other in oppossite directions. Just some thoughts to throw. ph34r.gif
Sharpe
QUOTE(djdafreund @ Oct 21 2007, 08:40 PM) *


1) Possible to have the 'TOGGLE CURTAINS" when skin option clicked, means it shows it, instead of not showing it. Seems more logic, when ticked is on state. (Tick is enabling option.)


2) Maybe an option to show curtains in wide and big wide views? I know for contrast purposes text might be harder to read when in covers or list mode, but when using wide banners, it won't hurt viewing, since there big and easy to read, no matter whats on background, because of the banners having the title inside them anyways.

3) Possible to include either a 'Now Showing' dialog box around selected when in those views (already has them in most others) Reason, the selected is just a little bigger now, so it would make it easier to see on the eyes which one is actually highlighted, when flipping through stuff. Currently there's only a little difference in sizes from selected, and not selected. Or, just make the selected bigger yet.


4) Make the selected in Plotview bigger then the others ( like in DVD cover view.), to mak it easier to notice. (Not that it's hard now, but just for other people not so used to xbox's, like company or friends.)

5) Also in plot view, tv shows within are showing a blank black box (of course, since a lot of shows don't have specific info for each season.), but a fix could be to also just show the shows info (like it does when showing the actual tv shows themselves.), so it's at least not blank. I don't know if this would be difficult or not with the way xbmc is set up with the xml files.



Right then I've just updated it to address the covering the weather and DVD icon - moved the weather to the top left and raised the wraplist controls and film strip up over the DVD icon.

I've also had a go at some of your point.

1) Heh - the toggle now reads "Switch Curtains Off"

2) Done

3) Working on

4) Sort of revamped the plot view a bit to make the whole list bigger

5) I don't think that's possible in XBMC yet - might be wrong though

And that's it for a bit. Cheers

maximus - good stuff fella.
djdafreund
QUOTE(maximusoctavious @ Oct 21 2007, 07:03 PM) *

Sorry about the mistake on your name up there buddy. Should have caught that one.

Ah, no biggie, just wanted to point it out if it was me, i thought it was. Man, we go some great idea's here. I love it!! I finally get a skin with pretty much all the best of stuff i always wanted in a skin.

QUOTE(Sharpe @ Oct 21 2007, 07:47 PM) *

I've also had a go at some of your point.

1) Heh - the toggle now reads "Switch Curtains Off"
2) Done
3) Working on
4) Sort of revamped the plot view a bit to make the whole list bigger
5) I don't think that's possible in XBMC yet - might be wrong though



1) Thanks
2) More Thanks
3) Major Thanks
4) Lovin it!!!
5) Ahh, hehe. Thats cool anyways for now.

I solely use your skn 100% of the time, and now my friends are also loving it, and using it 100%. I know some things will be tweaked out in time, but even now, you are so nice with added all suggestions, and very fast at it. Thanks a bunch, big time. R-E-S-P-E-C-T to you my friend!!! And props to an awesome skin. pop.gif cool.gif pop.gif
kazaaboy
Nice job on this skin....I really like where it is going...I still use the PDM as my default skin but...this one has me going back and forth tongue.gif


Suggestion for the alternate main menu-can you increase the size of the selected icon??

thanx again laugh.gif
Sharpe
Thanks pal - Yeah I love PDM as well - still a really nice skin.

I might just do that about the icon - one of many things on the list to do.

I've just this minute altered the layout of the alternate homescreen so that the wrap is more central and stretches all the way across the screen now.

IPB Image

maximusoctavious
The Fix Doesn't work on my xbox?
shizzle01
where to download?



found it tongue.gif
maximusoctavious
Nice fix. But my icons are overlapping on the bottom? I tried making the film.png bigger height, but it doesn't fix the problem? Can u make the film height bigger bro so my icons don't overlap? I also moved all my images up a little in there big transparent box. But it didn't help any. Everything really is coming along nice. What did u think of adding another tab?(music videos toggle) ph34r.gif
maximusoctavious
Everything is great. Thanks again Sharpe for tweaking my xml's to my specification.
maximusoctavious
QUOTE(maximusoctavious @ Oct 24 2007, 12:18 PM) *

Everything is great. Thanks again Sharpe for tweaking my xml's to my specification.


Bro from now on, could you post what changes are being made? Thanks
djdafreund
I don't get it, he usually does tell us things he added/changed, or maybe do you mean things he is about to so?

Sharpe, are you planning on adding your skin to the XBMC SVN list? That would be nice, and it's definitely worthy of it, also would allow users (as long as you put them into the log.) to see each time what new things have been fixed/added/changed for above.
maximusoctavious
Yes he does. But I noticed a new build this morning but didn't notice anything new in the update. It sure looks good though.
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