Full Version: Reset Switch
I liked the idea about adding a reset switch to your game controller, and I followed the great tutorial put out by the Xboxmod08 team for modding the internals of the Xbox for this to work. I didn't like the idea of modding a controller with a reset switch and always having to have that controller in port 1. I started to think about a different way of doing this mod, I opened up one of my controllers and started proping around and found that the yellow and black wires went to the memory card ports on the controller as well, at least on the Official Xbox controller I have. I bought a Mad Catz memory card, if you look into the end where the connectors are, you can see 5 contacts and a plastic "key" (circled in red) seperating them, 3 on one side, 2 on the other. The 2 connectors (circled in yellow) are the ones that are needed. Solder a wire to each pad inside the memory card, and connect the other ends, one to each side of a momentary switch. I drilled a hole in the plastic and routed the wires to the outside of the case before soldering the switch and then just wrapped with electrical tape, not the best looking mod, but it works as a reset switch in any controller that you could plug into port 1. There might be other memory cards out there with more room inside of it where a switch might reside, but my local Walmart had only a selection of 1 choose from. And the added bonus is that it still functions as a memory card!
cool! this shoujld be added to tutorials section. write up a formal tutorial and try turning it in to xantium or the other admins
Awsome man 
Useful and looks great too, Make a tutorial and send it in if you have time/get bored 
Useful and looks great too, Make a tutorial and send it in if you have time/get bored
That is so damn cool! It's amazing what we can do when we get bored sometimes isn't it!
I think I'm going to give that one a go since I never use the damn memory card anyway like I should. If it gets nuked then it won't be a huge deal.
As far as the electrical tape...who cares that's just a sweet prototype! I'm sure that I could get a template and form my own plastic casing that would allow the switch to be internal like I know you wanted it to be. Possibly even a smaller switch that could be mounted at the top of the cards case or inset as such.
Might even be able to make a quick prototype of it out of fiberglass and see how it goes. Damn wish I had time now to work on it!
Or hell if you get some time you could form an epoxy resin shell around the outside of the switch you have on there now and paint it black. Yeh that would be the ticket!
I think I'm going to give that one a go since I never use the damn memory card anyway like I should. If it gets nuked then it won't be a huge deal.
As far as the electrical tape...who cares that's just a sweet prototype! I'm sure that I could get a template and form my own plastic casing that would allow the switch to be internal like I know you wanted it to be. Possibly even a smaller switch that could be mounted at the top of the cards case or inset as such.
Might even be able to make a quick prototype of it out of fiberglass and see how it goes. Damn wish I had time now to work on it!
Or hell if you get some time you could form an epoxy resin shell around the outside of the switch you have on there now and paint it black. Yeh that would be the ticket!
Great post!
Please u/l a formal tutorial for all of us, we are grateful in advance.
Please u/l a formal tutorial for all of us, we are grateful in advance.
wow...that's a great idea for anyone who doesn't feel like opening up their gamepad, or for people who switch back and forth between different types and don't want to put switches in all of them.
Good Job!
Good Job!
Wow, this is an incredible find! How did you figure all this out?
I have never written a tutorial, so, if I do one for this, it will take me a few days.
bearauto: Didn't take much to figure out. I had opened my controller, drilled a hole for the switch and was ready to solder, I had my meter out and I was checking if I had the right points when a thought came to me, "if this bunch of wires comes all the way from the Xbox console, I wonder if they go any further". So I just started checking for continuity, I knew ground had to be there, and when I found that the yellow wire was there also, I thought "why not just mod the memory card instead". That is pretty much all there was to it.
bearauto: Didn't take much to figure out. I had opened my controller, drilled a hole for the switch and was ready to solder, I had my meter out and I was checking if I had the right points when a thought came to me, "if this bunch of wires comes all the way from the Xbox console, I wonder if they go any further". So I just started checking for continuity, I knew ground had to be there, and when I found that the yellow wire was there also, I thought "why not just mod the memory card instead". That is pretty much all there was to it.
thats simple logic, this shows how lazy we are after all this time, NOW we're starting to open up a mem card. Yeah if the mem card receives that wire is just a problem of modding the mem card, awesome discovery, now i want a reset button.
Hey btw, anybody thinking of selling modded mem cards thru ebay or something, it would be a nice deal, i'd buy one.
Hey btw, anybody thinking of selling modded mem cards thru ebay or something, it would be a nice deal, i'd buy one.
too bad u still need to di some stuff inside the xbox, and the mem card still has to be in port 1. We need to fix that.
What do you mean DI some stuff in the xbox? i thought all ya had to do was just solder the two wires like he shows into the memory card and that was it?...............am i missing somthing here?
| QUOTE (GTac01 @ Sep 23 2002, 10:03 PM) |
| too bad u still need to di some stuff inside the xbox, and the mem card still has to be in port 1. We need to fix that. |
Yeah, explain please...
Think I missed something also...flew right over my head!....wait yeh he is right, you still have to enable this process to work inside the Xbox itself.
Should have my Mod down tomorrow or so it seems using the standard Xbox supplied mem card with a switch at the top.
Should have my Mod down tomorrow or so it seems using the standard Xbox supplied mem card with a switch at the top.
I quote from my original post:
"I liked the idea about adding a reset switch to your game controller, and I followed the great tutorial put out by the Xboxmod08 team for modding the internals of the Xbox for this to work."
Notice that I stated that I modded the "internals of the xbox" you still have to cut the yellow wire inside the Xbox on port one and jump it to whichever point on the video connector on the motherboard to make this mod work. Follow the tutorial for putting a reset switch in your game controller for the instructions on modding the Xbox, which you can find in the tutorials section of xbox-scene. I figured this mod out so that I could use any controller I wanted, with the modded memory card of course.
"I liked the idea about adding a reset switch to your game controller, and I followed the great tutorial put out by the Xboxmod08 team for modding the internals of the Xbox for this to work."
Notice that I stated that I modded the "internals of the xbox" you still have to cut the yellow wire inside the Xbox on port one and jump it to whichever point on the video connector on the motherboard to make this mod work. Follow the tutorial for putting a reset switch in your game controller for the instructions on modding the Xbox, which you can find in the tutorials section of xbox-scene. I figured this mod out so that I could use any controller I wanted, with the modded memory card of course.
brilliant, i never use my memory card either i now see a use for it other than collecting dust. way to go bro!!!
Ah ok...will check it out, thank you very much.
Excellent Find....Very well done.
I must say, I find it very hard to believe that M$ conveniently place an extra wire in the controller. Which so happens to be used by memory cards too. Out of curiosity, has anyone completed the reset switch project (Controller or Memory Card) while testing the XBL service? Maybe the headset or the encrypted memory card uses that wire for something.
I must say, I find it very hard to believe that M$ conveniently place an extra wire in the controller. Which so happens to be used by memory cards too. Out of curiosity, has anyone completed the reset switch project (Controller or Memory Card) while testing the XBL service? Maybe the headset or the encrypted memory card uses that wire for something.
WTF DO THESE ASSHOLES THINK THEY ARE, FUCKIG GARBAGE!!
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ME: whats the yellow wire in the xbox, that is connected from the memcard, to controller, and goes down to the xbox.
ME: i cut that wire and nothing at all has changed
ME: yeah yeha i know, u dont knwo about this
ME: of course
ME: like always
Brijesh: Why would you cut a wire on the Xbox.
ME: i cut it in an extension cable for the xbox controller, that i bought to test this out, i also opened the whole system and saw that it was an extra form all the usb wires, and thats it goes even to the mem card, so i cut it, and everything still works fine
ME: as i thought
ME: is there gonna be any use for this at all?
ME: its a waste
Brijesh: What are you trying to accomplish by doing this?
ME: te prove that the yellow wire doesnt do ANYthing
Brijesh: Is there anything else I can help you with?
ME: i want you to tell me why the yellow wire is there
ME: or you dont know anything as always, justa awaste of my time?
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ME: should have said it earier, whats this then?
ME: hmmm... that oage tells me nothin about a yellow wire
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ME: whats the yellow wire in the xbox, that is connected from the memcard, to controller, and goes down to the xbox.
ME: i cut that wire and nothing at all has changed
ME: yeah yeha i know, u dont knwo about this
ME: of course
ME: like always
Brijesh: Why would you cut a wire on the Xbox.
ME: i cut it in an extension cable for the xbox controller, that i bought to test this out, i also opened the whole system and saw that it was an extra form all the usb wires, and thats it goes even to the mem card, so i cut it, and everything still works fine
ME: as i thought
ME: is there gonna be any use for this at all?
ME: its a waste
Brijesh: What are you trying to accomplish by doing this?
ME: te prove that the yellow wire doesnt do ANYthing
Brijesh: Is there anything else I can help you with?
ME: i want you to tell me why the yellow wire is there
ME: or you dont know anything as always, justa awaste of my time?
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ME: should have said it earier, whats this then?
ME: hmmm... that oage tells me nothin about a yellow wire
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MOFOS!!!! ppl like this designe dthe xbox?!!!
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hOLA: sup
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hOLA: whats the yellow wire for?, i asked this question earlier and the guy freaked out, and hung up on me, what kind of service is this?, anyways, ive cut an extension cable and say that there is a yellow wire, so i cut it, since i know it was extra, and everything works fine still
hOLA: the wir ethat even goes to the mem card
hOLA: like i thought it still works perfect of course, but my question is will there be a functionality for this in the future, or is it just to confuse or whatever
Patrick: I don't understand why you would willingly cut this wire.
hOLA: because im a technician, and i go by logic, and use logic, and that yellow wire isnt logic
hOLA: hello?
hOLA: same thing like the other guy, do you ahve an answer?
Patrick: Then if you're a technician, then you would know cutting wires and altering parts of your Xbox without checking any form of schematic or consulting the Technical Support department first is a rather precarious way to damage your equipment.
Patrick: If you want the answer as to the use of that wire that you've cut, you'll have to consult with our Technical Support department.
hOLA: what is this by the way then?
hOLA: gaming support?
Patrick: We're here for general (pre-sales) Xbox questions, game release info and some Xbox.com site navigation.
hOLA: ooohhh, should have known you dont knkow anything because of that, thanks btw, and sorry!
Patrick: You're welcome!
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hOLA: whats the technical support contact
Patrick: . You can contact them toll-free @ 1 -800-4MY-XBOX ( 1-800-469-9269 ). It is open from 9am to 1am, eastern standard time, 7 days a week.
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BTW, i aint calling that number
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hOLA: sup
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hOLA: whats the yellow wire for?, i asked this question earlier and the guy freaked out, and hung up on me, what kind of service is this?, anyways, ive cut an extension cable and say that there is a yellow wire, so i cut it, since i know it was extra, and everything works fine still
hOLA: the wir ethat even goes to the mem card
hOLA: like i thought it still works perfect of course, but my question is will there be a functionality for this in the future, or is it just to confuse or whatever
Patrick: I don't understand why you would willingly cut this wire.
hOLA: because im a technician, and i go by logic, and use logic, and that yellow wire isnt logic
hOLA: hello?
hOLA: same thing like the other guy, do you ahve an answer?
Patrick: Then if you're a technician, then you would know cutting wires and altering parts of your Xbox without checking any form of schematic or consulting the Technical Support department first is a rather precarious way to damage your equipment.
Patrick: If you want the answer as to the use of that wire that you've cut, you'll have to consult with our Technical Support department.
hOLA: what is this by the way then?
hOLA: gaming support?
Patrick: We're here for general (pre-sales) Xbox questions, game release info and some Xbox.com site navigation.
hOLA: ooohhh, should have known you dont knkow anything because of that, thanks btw, and sorry!
Patrick: You're welcome!
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hOLA: whats the technical support contact
Patrick: . You can contact them toll-free @ 1 -800-4MY-XBOX ( 1-800-469-9269 ). It is open from 9am to 1am, eastern standard time, 7 days a week.
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BTW, i aint calling that number
they dont know anything about this that they are so horrified i cut a wire????, then they must be dying when they see what im doing it for.
danm, theyr all the same robot, they say the same stuff and are trained to stop talking to you after you say you painted a heart on your xbox, since thats a modification, and its totally forbidded by god. They also take forever to copy and paste the same lines of text they always use, you gotta see how lowng they take to tell you "please call costumer service" i ha dthe feeling the quire was jacking off while i talked. They suck, i just wanna see what the famous technical info number will tell me.
i would love to ask them so many questions and play with them, but by now there's prolly a satellite over me, and bill gates is lookking at my Ballz.
i bet you bill gats wouldnt know what that wire is for !!! hahahahha!!! 
Jesus Christ-
Quit spamming the fucking boards man!
Quit spamming the fucking boards man!
danm i was trying to help, sorry, i thouught this was an open discussion.
Yes, but 6 posts in a row? You could of easily made that into one post. Your discussions with XBCS were useless for us to see anyway. It wasen't informative whatsoever. I'm not trying to take anything out on you but I see spam no matter what forum I go to. It just drives me nuts.
| QUOTE (GTac01 @ Sep 24 2002, 12:28 AM) |
| i would love to ask them so many questions and play with them, but by now there's prolly a satellite over me, and bill gates is lookking at my Ballz. |
hahahaha. check it out live at http://www.gtacsballz.com
[QUOTE]Drew826 Posted on Sep 23 2002, 08:53 PM
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i would love to ask them so many questions and play with them, but by now there's prolly a satellite over me, and bill gates is lookking at my Ballz.
hahahaha. check it out live at http://www.gtacsballz.com
hahahah
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i would love to ask them so many questions and play with them, but by now there's prolly a satellite over me, and bill gates is lookking at my Ballz.
hahahaha. check it out live at http://www.gtacsballz.com
hahahah
crap
You may have gotten a better response if you didn't sound like such an idiot talking to the rep.
You start off, saying that they aren't going to be able to help you... why should they? They make work for M$, but they're people trying to do a job and not answer some punk kids question about a wire he CUT!?
Why would you even expect them to answer that question? You've proven once again what a dumbass you can be.
You start off, saying that they aren't going to be able to help you... why should they? They make work for M$, but they're people trying to do a job and not answer some punk kids question about a wire he CUT!?
Why would you even expect them to answer that question? You've proven once again what a dumbass you can be.
All dumbasses aside, I still think M$ has some plan for that wire. It's the only logical explanation. Even IF the wire was there for no reason, why would MadCatz waste their time soldering that same yellow wire to their memory card? It just seems strange to me. In lieu of that, My skepticism tells me to hold off on this project for a little while...
Still, right now, a reset switch is more useful than a wire doing nothing. There are a couple things that you could do to modify this hack even further, one is put a switch in the Xbox to select between "Original yellow wire mode" or "reset mode". You could always change it back to the way it was, or use the yellow wire that is still functional off of a controller plugged into ports 2-4! It really is about personal customization, being able to do whatever we want to the hardware to suit our own needs. That is what's fun about all this!
Question.
Say you JUST do the xbox console part and NOT the controller "yet"
does everything still work?
Meaning say you left out the memory card/controller mods..
will everything still work ok?
Say you JUST do the xbox console part and NOT the controller "yet"
does everything still work?
Meaning say you left out the memory card/controller mods..
will everything still work ok?
WARNING: Poeples with "YELLOW" wire at the back of the motherboard xbox "ARE THE NEW XBOX v2"
Which mean they "can't be chip it"
unstill new modchip v2 are made
Which mean they "can't be chip it"
unstill new modchip v2 are made
also the Yellow wire is to transfter your IP (xbox live) number over the net alot quicker but also they can see what you have on the xbox hard drive & memory card.
x-power: What are you talking about? We are talking about the yellow wire in the game pad/port, not a wire at the back of a the motherboard, and this definitely has nothing to do with the so called "New Xbox v2". Please read the whole thread before commenting!
| QUOTE (GTac01 @ Sep 24 2002, 03:56 AM) |
| WTF DO THESE ASSHOLES THINK THEY ARE, FUCKIG GARBAGE!! ( ME has joined ) ( Brijesh has joined ) ME: hey Brijesh: Hello and welcome to the Xbox Interactive Online Support, my name is Brijesh. How may I help you? ME: whats the yellow wire in the xbox, that is connected from the memcard, to controller, and goes down to the xbox. ME: i cut that wire and nothing at all has changed ME: yeah yeha i know, u dont knwo about this ME: of course ME: like always Brijesh: Why would you cut a wire on the Xbox. ME: i cut it in an extension cable for the xbox controller, that i bought to test this out, i also opened the whole system and saw that it was an extra form all the usb wires, and thats it goes even to the mem card, so i cut it, and everything still works fine ME: as i thought ME: is there gonna be any use for this at all? ME: its a waste Brijesh: What are you trying to accomplish by doing this? ME: te prove that the yellow wire doesnt do ANYthing Brijesh: Is there anything else I can help you with? ME: i want you to tell me why the yellow wire is there ME: or you dont know anything as always, justa awaste of my time? Brijesh: We do not know we are not technical support. Brijesh: Please note that these chats are recorded as well with your IP address. If you continue this you will be classified as a disruptive chat and this chat will be taken to our management where they may take legal action on you and also contact your Internet Provider to take action also Brijesh: http://www.xbox.com/termsofuse.htm ME: should have said it earier, whats this then? ME: hmmm... that oage tells me nothin about a yellow wire ME: page* Brijesh: I hope that you have found our session today helpful.For your convenience and future reference, you will receive by e-mail a detailed transcript of our chat, including all site links. Thank you for using Xbox Interactive Online Support. If you need further assistance, please come back and visit us again. ( ME has exited ) |
sorry heehe
i was talking about this guy : GTac01
O.K !! Reset Switch hmmm not bad idea!!
Just completed this job... used a momentary switch from an old controller I had laying around (cut the switch out of the PCB)... used an M$ Memory card, because there was quite a lot of room on top... made a hole with my trusty dremel (which my wife keeps calling Doraemon for some reason), and ta-da, new reset switch.
Now, I had already had the inside mod done as part of a controller reset switch I had done earlier, so that wasn't a problem. This is better, just so I can use ANY controller in port 1... I use an S-Controller, and all my friends use the Big-Un, so "yes" it makes a difference to me. It's just a cool little project too.
As a side note, I have Tekki (Steel Battalion), and as far as I can tell, it still makes no difference not having the yellow wire hooked up. What IS that yellow wire for? I've heard Pen Light... but huh? I'm sure I'll find out what it's for one day the hard way... but for now, my lazy ass will enjoy the reset button!
Now, I had already had the inside mod done as part of a controller reset switch I had done earlier, so that wasn't a problem. This is better, just so I can use ANY controller in port 1... I use an S-Controller, and all my friends use the Big-Un, so "yes" it makes a difference to me. It's just a cool little project too.
As a side note, I have Tekki (Steel Battalion), and as far as I can tell, it still makes no difference not having the yellow wire hooked up. What IS that yellow wire for? I've heard Pen Light... but huh? I'm sure I'll find out what it's for one day the hard way... but for now, my lazy ass will enjoy the reset button!
i kno, besides, if that Magical pen ever comes, or whatever, connect it to controller port 2-4!!!
| QUOTE (N00bvin @ Sep 26 2002, 10:57 AM) |
| ...made a hole with my trusty dremel (which my wife keeps calling Doraemon for some reason), and ta-da, new reset switch. |
LOL! Doraemon? Incidentally, my wife calls the Dremmel "momma's little helper" whatever that means...
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| QUOTE (ferrell @ Sep 26 2002, 04:51 PM) |
LOL! Doraemon? Incidentally, my wife calls the Dremmel "momma's little helper" whatever that means... .... |
HAHA thats hillarious
Can anyone please state what guage of wire to use?
1. What guage of wire in the xbox for the one connection in there.
2. what guage of wire in the memory card or controller ??
30 guage? hopefully we can use bigger lol
THANK YOU!
1. What guage of wire in the xbox for the one connection in there.
2. what guage of wire in the memory card or controller ??
30 guage? hopefully we can use bigger lol
THANK YOU!
| QUOTE (ferrell @ Sep 26 2002, 11:51 AM) | ||
LOL! Doraemon? Incidentally, my wife calls the Dremmel "momma's little helper" whatever that means... .... |
You sure that's a Dremel you've got there? How many D size batteries does it take!
I am not sure what guage I used, I just stole some solid copper wire from an extra piece of CAT-5 Lan cable that I had laying around.
Well, I took Gunr's advice and put a reset switch in my MS memory card. The switch is tiny and sits flush inside the casing of the memory card. No accidental resets, yet the button is very easy to press with a liight push of a fingernail. I'm quite pleased with the result, and was able to pick up a whole boatload of these switches. I'll be selling them at cost if anyone is interested. Please see webpage for details.
To see the entire installation process with pics go here...
http://www24.brinkster.com/411gb/reset.htm
or
http://411gb.50megs.com/reset.htm
(Lets see how long it takes for the servers to shut down
)
If anyone wants to donate server space, PLEASE PM me!
ferrell
To see the entire installation process with pics go here...
http://www24.brinkster.com/411gb/reset.htm
or
http://411gb.50megs.com/reset.htm
(Lets see how long it takes for the servers to shut down
) If anyone wants to donate server space, PLEASE PM me!
ferrell
hey if u use paypal ill buy one of those switches right now.
| QUOTE (GTac01 @ Sep 28 2002, 12:49 AM) |
| hey if u use paypal ill buy one of those switches right now. |
Well, since I have premier account, paypal's gonna charge me $0.30 for each transaction. Since I'l be providing the postage and envelope, let's make it an even $2.00 shipped for anyone who wants to pay with paypal.
If you want a switch, and want to pay via paypal, please PM me for my paypal email account.
ferrell, yours turned out awsome! That switch I found was the smallest they had that I could find at Radio Shack. I am glad that I inspired this, mine was just thrown together to see if it would work, I knew there would be some good looking ones showing up sooner or later.
Gunr... it's all you bro for making the catch... THIS is the kind of stuff we need!!!
Ferrell is "gifted" in the ways of creating! ...which was shown with his HDD setup!
Ferrell is "gifted" in the ways of creating! ...which was shown with his HDD setup!
This is a great idea, however I have a concern about this...
Does anyone know if these lines actually bring out the CPU "reset" strobe lines?
While possible it's fairly unlikely that this is the case. Given that, what is actually causing the CPU reset? A ground short? Ugh not good if that is the case.
Does anyone actually know?
Does anyone know if these lines actually bring out the CPU "reset" strobe lines?
While possible it's fairly unlikely that this is the case. Given that, what is actually causing the CPU reset? A ground short? Ugh not good if that is the case.
Does anyone actually know?
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