Hi there,
I got the following Unit, showing in this Video. The HDD is 120GB I guess (ca. 100 are Displayed) and it already got HDMI Out. Is this one a DevKit? How much worth is it? Thanks in advance, ebichu!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVrVBI9RaFY

where did you get it?

congrats...you own an xbox 360 Dev kit. now help us run XBMC lol. j/k.

Hey, congratulations of finding one, I personally know how hard it its to track one down. Since yours has the HDMI and was probably made in the beginning of 2007, it would probably be worth $1,200 since it doesn't have the sidecar, if it did it would probably be worth $ 1,700, and if it had the sidecar and the 360 SDK, it would probably be worth $2,000+

Also, yeah, he XDK dash, and the 360 dash comes in at a whomping 20GB...so yeah, you have a 120GB hdd

-Gamerfreak1727

Whats a Sidecar and what it is good for?

The side car is the big attachment to the top of the xbox, it includes the hard drive, and dvd emulation, and kernel debugging ports on it. If you've seen the pictures of the three XeDKs from SmartXX, the sidecar is the grey thing that the "smartxx inside" sticker is attached to.

If you haven't seen the pic, then go here: http://www.xb360info.com/images/xbox360.devl.foto1.jpg

Well does your kit have any wires coming from the top of your kit,right by the hard drive.If so than yes its a dev kit,if not than its a debug unit.Your kit is really not rare at all,seen them before.And I would say your kit was made in 2006.







The hmdi dev's and debugs are no way worth that much.Also MS does not make any hdmi kits with the sidecar.Man your prices are way off.

I just based those prices on the offers people gave me, when i was buying one.

And just because you've seen one before, doesn't make it not rare. I only know about 11 people that have one, and that's all across the 'net. There's more debug units than devkits out in the wild, so the debugs aren't as rare, but any type of x360 dev hardware is rare.

Also, the xbox with wires coming out of the top is a stress test kit, it can be converted into a dev kit (if you have a sidecar), but that's not its original purpose for it.

And we STILL don't have any homebrew yet??!!

No your wrong,only if it has the window cut on the side then its a stress test dev kit.If no window than its a 360 dev kit,plain and simple.

Okay, than its a Debug Unit. What to do with it?

Uhh debug code or sell it lol

The only thing that separates a debug, from a dev kit is the emulation and pix ports on the sidecar. If you had the SDK you could still dev games on it.



lol, getting the dev kit isn't that hard, its just getting people that have the sdk to trust you, so they'll give it to you. That's where I'm stuck right now...

Well if you dont have any debug games or the sdk than there's not a whole lot you can do with it.
You can keep it as a conversation peice or just sell it.And please dont ask for the sdk like gamerfreak1727 did,you will just get your thread closed.

I knew it would get closed, but people would still see it
And yeah, you can't do anything without the SDK, or preview discs. And, at least for my kernel, they disabled the XBL feature, so no PartnerNet.

Okay, thanks for all your answers so far. I will get some Preview Discs from some Publishers soon. I will see if they will work on that machine. And no, I don't sell, trade or do anything with them. And I also won't ask for a SDK, because I am not into coding stuff

Well what kernel are you running,if the kernel version is low than new debug games will not run.

It says
Flash: 4548.0
XDK: 5426.0

Ok you are running the February kerel,dont be surprised if some new debug games wont work.

You have the same kernal as me. I do know that PartnerNet isn't supported with this kernal. Also you won't be able to play games from after the kernal was released.
If you're looking for proto disks, then there's one for sale on Assemblergames. The game is Monster Madness Review, and the link is http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15211

ohh i didnt know that less guys have it?

How do I know which Kernel the Games need?
And again: please dont stop PM'ing me about the Preview Games. I got them directly from the Publishers and I won't sell/trade them. Thanks.

I may be wrong, and if i am, someone please correct me, but I would think that anything before march or april would work. Once again, if I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

-Gamefreak1727

Noob question:

I know SDK Stands for Software Developer's Kit.

But what is it? A Program on a disk? A piece of hardware? I don't get it.

I don't think it's a noob question at all. You have to learn somewhere. A SDK is a piece of software that developers use to develop programs. Most SDKs integrate themselves into Microsoft Visual Studio. The Xbox1 SDK intergrates into Visual Studio.NET 2003, and the xbox 360 SDK integrates into Visual Studio 2005.

If you need more elaboration to what a SDK is, then check out this page on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_development_kit

Thanks man. I had checked out that Wiki page earlier.

So if it's just software, why isn't it spread around all over the internet?

coz they are not supposed to be shared just like that.

I have a debug kit as well, though mine does not have hdmi as his does.
flash:4548.0
xdk: 4929.0

what you guys are basically saying though is that these are virtually useless to us without the software and hardware for development...

On another note, I looked inside of the system, an the debug kit has 2 empty connectors, one 13, and on 9-pin, very near the dvd rom drive, that when viewed on a regualr xbox, you can see that the spots are there, but the connector has not been attached. What are these for? I assume some way to transfer data to the computer you'd be developing on?

Well if ther is only 10 or so devkits then where the heck did they come from?

they can be coming from everywhere. Depends on how u get it.

I'm just curious who makes them and where can you buy one .

Microsoft makes them, and unless you're a developer/publisher. You can find them floating around on the internet. You just missed one on ebay, it sold for $1100. Just keep looking.

Xbox Development Kits are very popular although are not to be owned by individuals without actually being a licensed developer for the Xbox. It is up to the developers themselves to trade/sell these development kits to the public but if found out could easily lose privilages to use an XDK for personal use which is why it's always a shady deal when someone goes to buy one. You may find some of these here and there out in the open like eBay or craigslist or even Xbox-Scene's very own BST but the developers themselves will never sell it themselves so publicly which makes these hard to find and are rare. The pricess on these can vary from $1 all the way up to $10,000 from what I've seen before, it just depends on the buyer how much they are willing to pay and the seller how much he thinks he can give it away for.

But the XeXDK is a great tool if used for the right purposes, in our case this is for homebrew.

Agreed, and one nice 'feature' is getting to play xbla games before they're released!

This guys got like 2 or 3 devs with side car and without and hes also got like 6 beta games and stuff
CLICK FOR VIDEO

*CORRECTION he has 4 xbox 360 devs with the software and sidecars on all....... he traded a ps3 and got 4 xbox 360 devs what a deal.

Looks like a v.010 360 Dev,nice.

Most, if not all of the black/grey devkits that were produced in 2005 have the final motherboard, version 11. the only ones that have earlier versions are marked as such (prototype sticker, or unfinished code sticker... There is no way to tell what version the motherboard is, unless, of course, you actually open it up...

Xbox 360 008 and above are final.

hey if anyone is interested in a Xbox 360 Dev Kit i saw two on ebay today
here are the item numbers


230218482962

and

230218485266

good luck finding one

I'd recommend no one bid for those, you can't view the sellers feedback items. Sometimes people setup 'fake' accounts and buy all of those email things that cost like 1p each for getting feedback. Seems he also claims to be selling two, yet the pictures are the same, anyone whos interested i'd recommend they message the seller and get them to put their username on a piece of paper, and a news paper with todays date on and photograph it to proove they actually have at least one.

Just a heads up, as i'm very worried someones going to get ripped off.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/sys/836242027.html

Looks legit, what do you guys think?

Don't bump old threads to spam your sales here.

Next time don't use the same account name on youtube. You guys are too easy.