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CJLee89
i am searching for some new music and i am seeing if you guys had any good christian hardcore bands you would reccommend?

thanks
killerbootsman
Is Christian hardcore like Cannibal Corpse with Jesus lyrics? Or is it more like Creed?
CJLee89
bands similar to: The Devil Wears Prada, August Burns Red, Blessthefall, Underoath, Demon Hunter, Before Their Eyes, As I Lay Dying, Destroy The Runner, Haste The Day, Inhale Exhale, Second Theif, Life In Your Way, etc. these are just off the top of my head,
oozingrectum
Born Blind.. local Christian hardcore. And I mean REAL hardcore hardcore.. not the crapped passed as it nowadays.

I actually knew one of their guitarists: He was a substitute teacher for me my Freshman high school yeah.
CJLee89
thanks, but no thanks.

anyone else?
gcskate27
is there any reason it has to be christian? surely something secular or simply 'non-satanic' would be just as good?
CJLee89
Anyone else have any good bands?
lostboyz
Sorry for my earlier post, realized I wasnt being helpful at all

But seriously hardcore christian music? I dont consider myself an elitesst but hardcore music is about anger and pain, what can the lyrics and mood possibly be that would allow it to be "christian" and not pointless at the same time. I am not trying to make fun of anyone or pose it that way, I really just wanted to have a conversation about music in general I suppose.

Please ignore me, if you feel i am just trying to be a pest.
CJLee89
QUOTE(lostboyz @ Nov 5 2007, 11:53 AM) *

Sorry for my earlier post, realized I wasnt being helpful at all

But seriously hardcore christian music? I dont consider myself an elitesst but hardcore music is about anger and pain, what can the lyrics and mood possibly be that would allow it to be "christian" and not pointless at the same time. I am not trying to make fun of anyone or pose it that way, I really just wanted to have a conversation about music in general I suppose.

Please ignore me, if you feel i am just trying to be a pest.

That is a perfect example of a stereotype. Hardcore is a type of music and how it sounds, not what the lyrics have contain. Its a way of expressing the way you feel, believe, etc. wether it be Christian or not.
lostboyz
tone has very much to do what you are talking about regardless of what the lyrics actually say. Deep screams, heavy riffs, and pounding bass drum dosent exactly give off praise for the lord.

Dont take it the wrong way but its just an attempt at assimilating the old "satanic" means, the only thing next is to put positive messages in when you play it backwards (see MSI-backmask)
CJLee89
QUOTE(lostboyz @ Nov 5 2007, 08:29 PM) *

tone has very much to do what you are talking about regardless of what the lyrics actually say. Deep screams, heavy riffs, and pounding bass drum dosent exactly give off praise for the lord.

Dont take it the wrong way but its just an attempt at assimilating the old "satanic" means, the only thing next is to put positive messages in when you play it backwards (see MSI-backmask)

Yes the tone has alot to do with it too.....I have seen Preachers scream, yell, shout, etc. even Jump up on the pews and walk acrossed them. The hardcore sound isnt much different. The hardcore artists sream, yell, shout, etc.
lostboyz
Sorry I have seen some extremely energetic preachers in my day, and I have seen a lot of hardcore bands. Sure you can say they both scream, but to say they are similar is a stretch to say the least.
gcskate27
actually, with hardcore you have touched on one type of music that very much has to do with the message... any punk or punk derivatives definitely must have the proper message to be correctly labeled as such...

go ask any random hardcore kid if christian hardcore is "real hardcore" because it most certainly is not...
CJLee89
QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Nov 5 2007, 10:46 PM) *

actually, with hardcore you have touched on one type of music that very much has to do with the message... any punk or punk derivatives definitely must have the proper message to be correctly labeled as such...

go ask any random hardcore kid if christian hardcore is "real hardcore" because it most certainly is not...

It isn't fake at all, not even close. Hardcore is a subgenre of punk; punk does not dismiss Christianity and hardcore punk as incompatible. Christian Hardcore (Christcore) just promotes Christian beliefs and ways. Any type of music can be Christian. Rock, Metal, Country, Hip-hop etc. including punk and hardcore.
lostboyz
QUOTE(CJLee89 @ Nov 6 2007, 08:27 AM) *

It isn't fake at all, not even close. Hardcore is a subgenre of punk; punk does not dismiss Christianity and hardcore punk as incompatible. Christian Hardcore (Christcore) just promotes Christian beliefs and ways. Any type of music can be Christian. Rock, Metal, Country, Hip-hop etc. including punk and hardcore.


make sure you know what punk is before you talk about it. Did it necessarily deny christianity? no. Does religion have anything at all to do with the roots, lyrics, motivation, or culture? Absolutely not. Back when punk actually existed then progressed to hardcore, believe me it was very much not christian. Its about going crazy at a concert and kicking the shit out of each other.
CJLee89
like i said it has to do with whats in the lyrics and the message, not how you react to the music. the fans at a Blessthefall concert hardcore dance too. same with Underoath, or Before Their Eyes.
lostboyz
please describe to me this "hardcore dance" and tell me how it is christian
gcskate27
QUOTE(CJLee89 @ Nov 6 2007, 08:27 AM) *

It isn't fake at all, not even close. Hardcore is a subgenre of punk; punk does not dismiss Christianity and hardcore punk as incompatible. Christian Hardcore (Christcore) just promotes Christian beliefs and ways. Any type of music can be Christian. Rock, Metal, Country, Hip-hop etc. including punk and hardcore.

since when does christianity promote the individual? that sounds more like the opposite of your religion and exactly what punk promotes...

im not saying its bad to be christian, just the bands you listen to and seek are not true to the style of music they pretend to be a part of: basically they are the equivalent of any american idol or the backstreet boys...
CJLee89
QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Nov 6 2007, 10:02 PM) *

since when does christianity promote the individual? that sounds more like the opposite of your religion and exactly what punk promotes...

im not saying its bad to be christian, just the bands you listen to and seek are not true to the style of music they pretend to be a part of: basically they are the equivalent of any american idol or the backstreet boys...

Obviously not when all the band members openly say they are Christian and they sing and write music to promote Christian beliefs and to spread the worrd about God.

I am just wanting some music but this turned into a religious argument.
gcskate27
yeah, sorry about that... its just that music is supposed to be about expression... i cant take any band seriously if they only sing about one thing/subject/whatever and thats exactly what christian music does... almost by definition contrived...
TheSchonk
What about Living Sacrifice?
StrictPuppet
My very limited knowledge of any christian band goes way back to the '80s hair-band, Stryper.

They sucked back then but sold alot of albums even in the mainstream. A quick google search shows that they have recently regrouped and released a new (harder?) album. Maybe worth checking out, but I cant bring myself to do it after watching this old video. Click the calling on you link.
grim_d
any more "christian hardcore is gay" or ANYTHING like that and i will be handing out mutes, suspensions and bans if necessary.

either help the OP out or don't post, full stop.
CJLee89
QUOTE(TheSchonk @ Nov 7 2007, 12:51 AM) *

What about Living Sacrifice?

thanks man. i already have their CD 'In Memoriam'. Great Cd.

QUOTE(StrictPuppet @ Nov 7 2007, 01:14 AM) *

My very limited knowledge of any christian band goes way back to the '80s hair-band, Stryper.

They sucked back then but sold alot of albums even in the mainstream. A quick google search shows that they have recently regrouped and released a new (harder?) album. Maybe worth checking out, but I cant bring myself to do it after watching this old video. Click the calling on you link.

I have heard of them but have yet to check them out. thanks for the suggestion!

Demon Hunter and War of Ages has new Cds out. I will be picking those up soon.

anyone else?
michaeljohnson
What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? (Matthew 16:26)


I grew up in my church being told that I couldn't even listen to R&B, perhaps because of the massaganistic lyrics but is there a difference if I were jammin' to it with my wife?

People argue about things like this all the time, even the same church people.

Either way, If anyone is reading this, the only thing that means anything is the salvation of your soul, don't allow someone around you to die or something awful to happen in your life, to realize that God and only God through Jesus Christ, can save your soul.
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