KarlosB
Nov 21 2007, 12:37 AM
Just got banned, normal error codes same as the last ban, running an ixtreme based samsung ms28 which has only ever been flashed with ixtreme based firmware, i dont post here much any more so you will probably think its a hoax, just advising you, unplug your ethernet cables on your 360's.
xboxfan003
Nov 21 2007, 12:43 AM

that's sux, sorry to hear that....
could you describe more about it, what is the last game you played before you got banned and do you play backup games with your ethernet cable plugged in?
thank you..
dopeman5000
Nov 21 2007, 12:55 AM
WAS IT v1.3 I NEED TO KNOW ASAP
KarlosB
Nov 21 2007, 12:56 AM
smackdown vs raw 08 backup , and yes i had the cable in, i went to play call of duty 4 (which is original disk) and i was banned, and im running the newest firmware by the way, i always keep it updated
cagmere
Nov 21 2007, 01:15 AM
I just got banned too. Was using xtreme on a Samsung ms28. Looks like the hammer is coming out again.
SuperStition
Nov 21 2007, 01:25 AM
what version?
Audioboxer
Nov 21 2007, 01:28 AM
Wonder how they managed to check?
Hopefully this is/will only affect Samsung drives?
Sorry to hear guys
codecxbox
Nov 21 2007, 01:32 AM
Time to hack a tunneling app..
smokeDOGGbaby
Nov 21 2007, 01:35 AM
Damn this isnt looking so good. I thought that ms28 was the safest because of firmguard.
KarlosB
Nov 21 2007, 01:36 AM
bans confirmed in #FW (at least 7 bans so far).
City2City
Nov 21 2007, 01:52 AM
Banned at 4:00PM EST.. Firmware version: Xtreme 5.0 MS25 Drive
City2City
Nov 21 2007, 01:58 AM
It figures I get banned right before the holiday...Looks like no live for me.
just4747
Nov 21 2007, 02:13 AM
shit...are all the bans talked about on mirc people with samsungs? are any of them with other drives? that's an important question. i hope someone can check logs and stuff to find out what caused the detection! fuck! im afraid to use my benq now
gatorayde
Nov 21 2007, 02:17 AM
so far it seems like a mix of ms-25/28's with xtreme/ixtreme 1.2c (haven't seen a 1.3 yet...), and a couple hitatchi's. No BenQ's yet though
just4747
Nov 21 2007, 02:20 AM
this sucks...how do they all of a sudden figure out how to detect? its all the browsing of these forums lol.
how was this beat last time? is there a way for the developers of the fw to find out how they detected modded boxes? or no? how long did it take last time before they "beat the bans," so to speak?
Semicidal
Nov 21 2007, 02:23 AM
So hold on, are these bans because of the firmware, or is it because people are playing backups whilst plugged into live? I'm in the midst of trying to mod my BENQ now, and I think I might chill on it.
just4747
Nov 21 2007, 02:35 AM
QUOTE(just4747 @ Nov 20 2007, 08:56 PM)

how was this beat last time? is there a way for the developers of the fw to find out how they detected modded boxes? or no? how long did it take last time before they "beat the bans," so to speak?
sunkist09
Nov 21 2007, 03:02 AM
for the people that have been banned what fw speed were you using? stock? or what?
Jase Winter
Nov 21 2007, 03:03 AM
i'm using 8x 1.3 samsung and haven't been banned............................... yet.
sosotiit
Nov 21 2007, 03:05 AM
no discussion on downloaded game, torrent or any of that stuff. although some are careful on how they discussit, it quickly turns on discussion we do not want.
if you want to keep this thread open, be careful
also, this is not about how to hack, so moved to X360 general
City2City
Nov 21 2007, 03:06 AM
Them ixtreme firmwareThem ixtreme firmwares are a joke it never stopped live from banning you.s are a joke it never stopped live from banning you.
knodi
Nov 21 2007, 03:07 AM
People please also post the last few backup games you played.
Grim187
Nov 21 2007, 03:09 AM
QUOTE(just4747 @ Nov 20 2007, 05:56 PM)

this sucks...how do they all of a sudden figure out how to detect? its all the browsing of these forums lol.
how was this beat last time? is there a way for the developers of the fw to find out how they detected modded boxes? or no? how long did it take last time before they "beat the bans," so to speak?
i knew it was coming again, i haven't even signed in to live in over 2 weeks.
anyways to answer your questions; it most likely has something to do with the difference between the original game the backup (like last time), (going by how they detected it last time) there isn't a way for them to detect that you have a modified firmware only that you are playing a backup, it was a week before there was a live safe xtreme fw for the samsung and something like a month before one came out for the Hitachi.
Ranger72
Nov 21 2007, 03:14 AM
Any word on BenQ yet?
themaindude
Nov 21 2007, 03:24 AM
Another weak banhammer 21st november 07 at 00.20AM uk time.
im using a hitachi 78fk drive and 1.2c iextreme FW and only used games which had stealth.
so yeah congrats to MS thay have just put another dead 360 in some second hand shop for some poor cunt to buy.
ill see you guys back on tomorrow " lets do this marines "
newfie4ever
Nov 21 2007, 03:25 AM
Just checked my system with Hitachi and lastest firmware for it. Not banned, still running good for now. Were you guys playing backups online? Just asking because I only hook up the live cable with originals and never a backup. Actually I never have the cable hooked up unless I am going to play a original online.
wans
Nov 21 2007, 03:42 AM
Confirmed, just been signed out of live. Got the banned error codes.
Samsung MS25 with iXtreme1.2
Oh well back to the store with this one, dont mind, the xclamp mod is starting to die and the laser is on its way out too.
May give me an excuse to buy one of those elites.
Iriez
Nov 21 2007, 03:46 AM
Here's some input from a few people on irc:
<hordak> hitachi47/xtreme2.4, hitachi59/xtreme2.3, hitachi59/ixtreme1.2r2, hitachi47/ixtreme1.2r2, ms25/ixtreme1.2rc
He was playing cod4 with 5 friends and they all got banned at the same moment. (signed them off) and those are the drives/revisions.
<purbeast> ms25/x5.3
Also, i would like to note that even though some of these people had older fw's, they only used stealth discs. The 5.x can be dismissed on hitachi, as it did not handle dmi/pfi inquries properly, but the ixtreme revisions should be taken very seriously.
We'll get a chance to see if there's anything new going on via logging later tonight. I'll keep this posted.
xboxuser32
Nov 21 2007, 03:50 AM
Samsung MS28 with Xtreme 5.3 here, got ban a few minutes ago. I logged in this afternoon and everything was fine until a few minutes ago when I logged back again.
Forgot, last game I played was Rockband backup yesterday night, and before that I played my Guitar Hero 3 original.
Corrosive Substance
Nov 21 2007, 03:53 AM
Yup, I just got banned. Thankfully enough I have another Xbox 360 for Live!
knodi
Nov 21 2007, 03:56 AM
QUOTE(Corrosive Substance @ Nov 21 2007, 04:29 AM)

Yup, I just got banned. Thankfully enough I have another Xbox 360 for Live!
WHAT DRIVE? What firmware? last few backup games played?
RoboChicken
Nov 21 2007, 03:58 AM
3 freshly banned here
2 ixtreme 1 not sure
knodi
Nov 21 2007, 04:04 AM
Looks like collateral damage this time too.
http://forums.xbox.com/16846984/ShowPost.aspxhttp://forums.xbox.com/16846966/ShowPost.aspxQUOTE(RoboChicken @ Nov 21 2007, 04:34 AM)

3 freshly banned here
2 ixtreme 1 not sure
what drives???
hondomaclean
Nov 21 2007, 04:04 AM
I played cod 4 with a friend and he got banned but not me. We both have iXtreme but i have a BenQ dvd and he has a samsung. It seems strange that only samsung and hitachi dvd´s have been reported as banned.
knodi
Nov 21 2007, 04:05 AM
QUOTE(hondomaclean @ Nov 21 2007, 04:40 AM)

I played cod 4 with a friend and he got banned but not me. We both have iXtreme but i have a BenQ dvd and he has a samsung. It seems strange that only samsung and hitachi dvd´s have been reported as banned.
Benqs have been reported banned on IRC to as well.
apollo_1444
Nov 21 2007, 04:12 AM
QUOTE(knodi @ Nov 21 2007, 04:41 AM)

Benqs have been reported banned on IRC to as well.
does this only happens when you play a backup on live? or it happens whenever you long on with an original
gehx
Nov 21 2007, 04:27 AM
I have a sammy ms28 running 1.3 ixtreme...not banned....YET
oh, and all I've been playing is COD4...nothing else
just4747
Nov 21 2007, 04:30 AM
posted just now in #fw:
<c4eva> be patient, time will tell, live log soon but if game related wont show in log, none of my consoles banned yet
wans
Nov 21 2007, 04:30 AM
no one with any authority can tell you anything right now, let them look at the logs they have been taking since the first iXtreme, im sure once they have checked the logs they will know what hit us, and maybes even how to counter it.
A banned box every now and again is a small price to pay to make sure the only discs my console eats are of the recordable kind.
Even a few copys of halo 3 LE came pre scratched for that authentic xbox texture.
In fact, i got me a kreon drive just before the last banning wave and since then my console has not tasted an original disc, considering my first xbox ate 3 games on launch day at a cost of 60GBP each.
IMO sure i would love to be garaunteed that i will be fine for all eternity, even if i was not going to just return my xbox to the store i would happily buy another core pack, they are ten a penny and the money i have saved making backups of my discs and being able to sell the original in mint condition when im done playing (all backups destroyed of course as per the law) as opposed to mini ice rinks totally makes up for it.
Great work C4EVA, looking forward to your next release!
unkempt
Nov 21 2007, 04:30 AM
i dont have a modded box anymore since the last ban, but called my buddy who has had a modded ms28 since b4 the first ban and he says he can still login and play live fine still, he is watching a movie with his girlr ight now n she started bitching about him tring to login so i will updaye u with more info on was firmware he was running and such asap, i never had a sammy i had 2 hatachi's that got banned from the first wave. i know his firmware was a xtreme with the speed incress or something? (not sure sorry) i will update more
rwk71
Nov 21 2007, 04:33 AM
Xtreme 5.3a here and no ban as of yet......just signed in and all is fine for the past 10 minutes.....
Deltagunner
Nov 21 2007, 04:34 AM
MS 25 iXtreme 1.2, been playing mass effect all day after I got it and backed it up this morning. No ban yet. . .
looneeii
Nov 21 2007, 04:35 AM
any updates on 1.3 users???
nalidz
Nov 21 2007, 04:38 AM
I got a ms 28 with iwxtreme 1.2c and played halo on live from 6-9pm with no probs...yet
cagmere
Nov 21 2007, 04:39 AM
I don't expect there to be too many "survivors" once this is all said and done. My brother's and a friend of his 360 that I had modded were banned this time around, they had made it through the last banhammer. Microsoft has obviously figured this out. Good for them though. Software piracy hurts the market.
shank69xo
Nov 21 2007, 04:45 AM
I was on XBL earlier today playing with modified FW, but I am not sure if I am banned ornot. Is there anyway to check wothout actually having to try logging in for the error codes?
Ranger72
Nov 21 2007, 04:46 AM
I just plugged my fiends Samsung (iXtreme 1.2)in and he got banned instantly. He had not been playing any games on Live and only connects to download demos.
All my BenQ drives are fine.
santa09
Nov 21 2007, 04:47 AM
OK so bans have started. It has to be with the disk. It cant be firmware. Its impossible to detect firmware. The only way to do it is by disk. So really what is different when a backup is read from an original?
Edit
Ok so i guess they are detecting firmware.
Ground_0
Nov 21 2007, 04:48 AM
I came home from work, popped the 360 on and logged in as usual, everything was fine. Popped in Rock Band and booted it up. There was an update available, so I came to check x-s to see if there was anything to worry about. Apparently there is!
So my question now is, has anyone done any game updates in the last 48-72 hours?? I believe I updated a game a few days ago, but I could still connect to live without a ban tonight.
My box is unplugged until this is sorted.
Cheers
edit:
49d Ie 1.2c
unkempt
Nov 21 2007, 04:49 AM
QUOTE(santa09 @ Nov 21 2007, 06:23 AM)

OK so bans have started. It has to be with the disk. It cant be firmware. Its impossible to detect firmware. The only way to do it is by disk. So really what is different when a backup is read from an original?
but if it was the disk, how could my buddy miss the first wave, and now so far the second wave, he has never played a org disc in his xbox 360 he has only used backups
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