I'm well aware that it's old, doesn't mean I won't stop using it either way.
You missed the point, it's is no big deal for me, as I'm using many arcade emus, but I assumed maybe others may want them included in the dats as well.

One thing which ruins many games in mame is having infinite credits.
To that effect I have a suggestion.

Have an option which can only be changed by editing an ini file (To stop people giving in to temptation while in the emu), which enables you to choose the max amount of credits you can use on all games.

Would be great if ressurectionx or someone else would pass this idea on to BritneysPAIRS to see if he's interested.

I would also be willing to code it for him if he is too busy working on other features.

KM

Hey ekszbox,



At this point, yes, I probably have given up doing a straight dat for Mameox128. You're probably right to assume that in the official build there will be certain roms that don't make it into Arcades, such as the hack/clones you mention. If you want to put a list of games you would consider to be good that is not included in Arcades or the datfile I've made I might add them to a Mameox128 datfile. I'll say that a working Mameox128 datfile isn't my priority anymore after the events of the last month, but making a separate datfile wouldn't be too difficult when I devote some time to it.



Again, if you have some examples I'd be willing to look at it. I'd assume most weren't added because of slowdown issues, or because they're exactly like another game. I'd have to know what you're talking about though to answer this question.



I haven't, but if you give me a list of these games, I could delete them from a datfile to make a working Mameox128 set that doesn't include them. I could easily remove the neogeo ones myself, but off the top of my head I don't know what roms are CPS1 and CPS2. Give me a list of games to remove and I can purge them for the datfile. (If I take a look at it sometime on Sunday or Monday, this may just be a question of using an fbaxxx datfile to purge these roms from the MAMEox128 datfile.) Like Xyteam said, I can't imagine why you would mess around with Kawax at this late stage in the game, but to each their own.



I do like the suggestion for disabling infinate credits. I'm not even sure if it is possible to do this though. I could bring this up to BritneysPAIRS, but he's got a ton to do right now with what I've given him to this point. I'll mention it later when we've gotten further along in the process.

Hi ressurectionx


Well I checked out the puzzle games, and saw that they were indeed clones, and it looks like the SF2 hacks are not supported in Mameox128, so I assume they won't make it into Arcades and obviously your dats due to that.


-It loads roms much faster than rival emus.
-Games I tested and compared with rival emus ran the smoothest on Kawax.



I made a list from the Kawax supported games txt:
KAWA-X - Rom List
If you want them sorted differently/a custom app/script to save you further work let me know.

Here is a Kawax dat, can't remember where I got it from.
Kawa-X_Saku00

Thanks for your great work,

KM

MAMEox128 Plus! is losing even more desirability. I tested about 150 roms in MAMEdox Arcades that were to slow or had speed issues before in MAMEox128 Plus! and about 40 of them work in Arcades. 35 with no problems at all and about 5 need to be remapped.

My recommendation ekszbox, is that you get Arcades and all the rom files. I will make a datfile for all of the playable games in Arcades without the neogeo and cps roms so anyone can purge them if they'd like and you will have the best MAME emu with all the playable games that you can't use in Kawa or FBA. Seriously, MAMEox128 Plus! is now officially a waste of time, several times over.

~Rx

i know i said to ecksbox that kawax is old and not worth using,well boy was i wrong.
i dug it out last night and tried all the roms(got a full romset for kawax),i always remembered it loaded up games quicker than fbaxxx,but what i found was the controls seemed more responsive and there wasnt so much configuring of contoller layout,so ecksbox kawax is a good emu and i stand corrected.

Exactly what I did the other day.



Sounds great.



Glad you like it as well now.

I always felt that about the control being sharper as well, didn't know if it was just my imagination.

By the way, there is a great project mayhem skin for Kawa-X, in case you don't have it I recommend you get it.


KM

For the time being, you can just use the datfile that I provided before, but there will be more games that work in arcades when I'm through looking at the games that didn't work in Plus!

I've learned a few things from BP that I'm helping him with now. I've already modified the catver the way I want it for separating categories. I prefer the way mine looks, and I know he was looking to change his up a bit at some point, but I haven't gotten any feedback on that yet. I don't imagine my catver will be the catver that is in his official build, but if I want to change mine after a new build comes out it's just a matter of simply replacing the file. It's really easy to do though it takes a little bit of time. Really, anybody with a few spare hours and notepad can alter the categories for games to their liking.

The even cooler thing I learned from him is how to use a hex editor to change the game name in the GUI. This can then be used to remove (US) and (Japan) tags, etc. to make the emu look classy. So even though BP won't be adding a lot of the working games from the 80's that are "rubbish", if anyone were to use my dats and scan in the extra games themselves they will be categorized nicely and the names would all look good too. When I am through with the name editing, he will add that to his build so no changes would be necessary for the end user if they wanted to add on the extra roms that I'm using.

Just remember, he doesn't support that at all, so don't bother him with anything that I add on my own.

I'll keep you all updated. I've got a real busy week ahead of me so I probably won't get much work done on this for a while. You never know though.

Hey ressurectionx!

In a previous post you mentioned that they were about 10 games that you still use MameOx for... just wondering what those were if you don't mind me asking. I like how your brain thinks so I'm a little curious as to what they are.

Oh, and a little off topic Arcade related question...

Any chance you could help me remap the buttons for Super Off Road?
The left and right trigger buttons are used for both gas and steering and it's terribly awkward. I was hoping that perhaps you could figure out a better and more intuitive design for this great Arcade game. It's kind of tough for me to do so since I'm not finding any documentation on how to specifically remap the keys.

I'm surprised that you said Puzzle De Bowling was running painfully slow on your end, I've had no problems at all running it through MameOx and is one of my wife's favorites.

Also, you weren't able to get Super Dodge Ball (1996) to work correctly?
Super Dodge Ball video
Oh man, that was the only Arcade I used to play every night while working as a night auditor at the Hilton. That game was a terrific blast!

Finally, you said that Cyberball didn't work as well either? My memory could be a little fuzzy on this, but I remember playing it quite often in Cincinnati after a rough day at college. I think this came out just before the Madden series for Super Nes and the Genesis so it was one of my favorites. However, I'm sure if I saw the game now, it probably blows chunks.

When I was a kid, I remember playing Front Line all the time at Chucky Cheese Pizza. To me it was so real back in the day, I actually thought I was storming the beaches of Normandy. Well, I took a little revisit to that game yesterday and it looked like Colecovision. It's amazing how stupid we were back then, huh?

Anyway, hope to hear back from you.

Hey Smothermunchie,




I don't quite recall when I said that or at which step of the process I said that. Chances are whatever I had meant by that isn't even relevant anymore at this point. At the immediate moment though I can think of games that would probably be better played in MAMEox128 Plus! though. Darius I, Darius II, Lode Runner (the 90's version) and Ninja Warrior seemed to have multiple monitors in the arcade. MAMEox128 seems to render these fine so they play full screen like any other game. Arcades used a different core and nobody still in the scene seems to have the expertise to fix the problems associated with the multi-monitor games. For example, if you load up Darius I in arcades on my 51" TV the game is only about 4" to 6" tall but spans the entire width of the screen.

Also, light gun games will not be officially supported in Arcades and I probably won't even add them to my own datfiles. According to BP they are rather buggy in the core used in Arcades and would play better in MAMEox128. No big deal to me there. They are impossible to play with a joystick and I don't ever plan on getting the gun because it wouldn't work on my projection screen TV anyways.



I noticed this too and it is one of my requests for controller mapping fixes. There are quite a few racing games where the left turn and gas are both mapped to the L button by default. This isn't a quick fix than any of us can do. It requires actually altering the internal code of the MAMEox.xbe (I'm 99% sure of that anyways). Perhaps I'll learn how to do these things too, but at this point I don't know how to do it myself. I can pretty much guarantee either way you can look forward to this game and about 30-40 other games at least being remapped in the future.

Great game.



Actually, I just said plays way too slow. I reserve the painfully slow for games like Hard Drivin'.

A lot of the "Plays way too slow" and other comments I've made were pretty generic and I used the auto fill in excell because after doing thousands of these you start getting to that point where you don't write out a lengthy description and just want something there explainnig breifly what the problem was. Perhaps when I played it it was just that the sound skipped a bit or the voices did. I really tested these games with BP's opinion in mind because I figured if I gave him a bunch of games that had skipping music that he wouldn't even bother working with me. He only allows games that work perfectly in his emu. I believe that this one works perfectly fine in Arcades as far a sound and speed go. My only problem with it there is that the analog stick is really a pain in the butt to use and would need to be remapped to the Dpad to be enjoyable. Should play perfect on Arcades once it's remapped.




Yeah. That one is marked as working correctly. BP didn't have it in Arcades because he already had the updated Neo Geo one, but I've suggested adding it because it is a great game. I didn't even know it was an arcade actually. I had it for NES when I was a kid and it was one of my favorite games. Loved them little weird looking River City Ransom lookin' dudes. If he doesn't add it to his official build, have no worries cause it will be in my expansion datfile.



The game plays, and it really isn't that bad actually. Chances are you did play it. Again, I was pretty rough grading these games and if there were really any skips in the music or voice or sound I removed them because I didn't want to come to BP with a list that included 100 games that almost played perfect. I do plan on running through games that didn't work on Plus and try them in Arcades. I've already done this somewhat and found quite a few that work without problems in Arcades.

And yeah.... It pretty much blows now I never played it before so the sentimentality doesn't factor in my decision though.



I never played Front Line before, but I looked it up and yeah, it's about one step above Colecovision. I was quite addicted to Frenzy as a kid, so I know how it is. We weren't dumb. We just didn't know any better. Now.... is it dumb that given a choice I'd probably rather play Frenzy on most days than my brother's Halo 3?

remapped alot of games including all games like supersprint off road whatever its called to be consistant and work. Added 230games as well. Added some new cats to sort classics easier

@BritneysPAIRS: Wooot?! Thanks man, when will it be available to the public? =) Usual places?

He's impossible to work with. You might get another patch from him after all of my hard work. Who knows. He's like a messed up Yoda with zero people skills and I can't deal with his bullshit anymore.

If any normal human being knows anything about editing an .xbe file so I can start working on my own direction, it would be highly appreciated. Mine is going to be better once I know how to remap keys.

a patch will be out soon for arcades.... just trying to point out lots of issues with his stuff, I recommend buyer beware with this but hey its up to guys. There will be newer features skins etc and ill be protecting the xbe from altering this time the discussion about it will be happening elsewhere at the usual places

looking into newkeymapping method to support gamepad or cabs
videopreviews
new settings
new skin
midway game support (with sounds default to off)
if I can get source for cp3 maybe some other stuff
720p support
xbmc support

Good luck if you want a full rom set right now find BAED 2 its all done and has been availble for quite a while

720p and movie support, looking forward to it.

I love MAMEdox Arcades but I hate the way the menus and buttons are set up. I would like to see the menus setup more like znesbox which I think is the best laid out emulator. Rule #1 always remember the KISS principle.

thats why theres a setting relook....way simpler. And an option to switch to cabnet keysetup. The actual way to change keys is locked from PC mame so this might have to stay I to dont like it. Ill look at that EMU for design tips cheers

Nothing is 100%, but there are hardly any issues with my documentation. Any example of something wrong is because he had been using my original spreadsheet which had not had testing for games in arcades, which I had explained to him countless times. Besides, something is a lot better with 2 people testing it and making it right (again, if they're both working with up-to-date documentation)

BP has never once thanked me for the 400 hours I've put into testing and documenting all of this in both Plus and Arcades and all he does is bitch and bitch and bitch about every little thing every single time I talk to him. So what if he had to do a little extra work and it wasn't all put out there for him 100% perfect. But he's got to complain, complain, complain. Not to mention that he needs to repeat everything he says to me because he speaks in riddles and a stream of consciousness where one paragraph can go on forever without a single use of punctuation.

I've got a lot more that I'd like to get done, like getting the game titles renamed for games that he refuses to add to his emulator. I've been asking him for a copy of his current .xbe for a week now so I can edit the names and get them back to him so they're in his build in case you guys wanted to add the games he feels are shit, but he hasn't sent it to me. He keeps saying he will, but he never does. He has me make changes to the catver file, which took me about 12 hours, and then he decides mine is shit because it has too many categories for his liking. I don't know about you, but personally I feel that he's got at least 3 different categories all bunched up in "Shooter" I think it's necessary to separate games like Gradius from games like 1944.

It's a shame that we can't work together. I'm not getting anything I wanted out of this deal, while he got about 260 he'll be adding to his emu pointed out to him by me that many he probably would have never added because it's like a scavenger hunt digging them out of the clones and shit.

You're welcome everyone for that. He'll no doubt take full credit, but I hope you realize the work I had to do to get these games added. Not as much as I would have liked added, but we got quite a few this time.

I pointed the errors out countless times that you say arnt there I cant argue with it. You dont even know how to change a keymap no offensise but this is kind of the basics. Yes ive gone and fixed and added the roms if people actually want stuff like blasto and dynadice (mameworld.net/maws/romset/dynadiceetc) thats fine by me. But I wont be adding stuff that even the mame team dont know when it was released and virtually no documention dont know who released it or where or when it was released. Doubling the rom size just to have them is clutter to me. Also I have to scale the list down some more as I found more double ups. I cant say this to you without offending you so I just do it, its nothing personal. I can give you example after example the new list you gave me games where removed due to speed like Strikers 2 check it out and play it. More where removed due to doubleups and alot to me are very poor games. Its my 2 cents as I say its helped lots but unless you want to remove the errors and take no priase its an uphill battle. I dont even have my name on the Emu now at all, people know or they dont I just do it for me and if people want it I allow them

PS 1945 and gaudius arnt in same cat now as ive said there a classic section. You will be able to remove sections or stuff if it works soon and x will be doing some new sort trickery if it works out

Also personally id only like to add about 30 games and new features I have no issues if you want to say dont worry about games I feel it may be tidier just adding a few bigger titles I missed and refining the interface... you can then release your patch I could be wrong and people will love it....Im wrong so much :S its a pain but thats life

If you've found an error, put it in my spreadsheet and get it back to me. Telling me there are tons of errors and not getting into any specifics or details would be enough to piss off anybody who's put all of this work into this. I have no doubt that my work isn't 100%. I'm not getting paid to do this and I'm only one guy. Show a little team work and document where you see problems.

I know I can't remap games. That's one of the big reasons I've been putting up with your attitude for the last few weeks, because I thought I was going to learn. I've never programmed anything in my life, but I will learn if I'm forced to.

Show me some documentation.

Get me the .xbe so I can edit the names for games that people might add later.

Simple, really.

sorry I couldnt be arsed doccumenting each game I just added or removed if they had issues or were not good enough it was that simple for me. It still took about 4 hours if I doccumented and explained everything it would take alot longer probably 15 hours so.

I am and have been having thoughts of making a totally new GUI using xbmc skin engine and this will mean canceling arcades and only having about 300-400 games but a flash interface really flash. Ill talk to gogo about some stuff if hes around soon hopefully

I have reinstated the lockdown stuff as I dont want to be buged about issues that a patch that isnt tested will probably give me...this is why the save must be put over so I know how its setup it saves me alot of support I will fix legit bugs for sure and I know I have them.

Someone help him with keymapping if not all docco will be on mameworld and links from it

Ive done what I think ive needed to do ive looked at all stuff and assested it. Passed off some knoweldge not much heart in it im sure. I dont want to be responsible to teach and banter around stuff I do listen and if there is a case for it or many ask I normally give in but normally it requires more than one lobbier to change my mind. If you guys want stuff like the game mentioned earlier lobby hard and you never know

Nice. What a waste of time you are. 15 hours is child's play.

I'll do this on my own. And if you're abandoning Arcades, all the better. I'll fix it myself.

This ain't politics. I can actually speak with the people, and the people can understand me. No lobbying necessary.

When I release a build of this once I've figured out how to edit, I will listen to all of your suggestions. I welcome them. I'd like to add all the working games, put them in categories that make sense, allow you the ability to show or hide each category easily, and have all the games remapped so they work right. If when I've completed that anybody finds any problems with the mapping, I'd be more than happy to hear the problems so we can all work together to fix them. I will not hoard this to myself and be beligerant as hell like some other coders. I want this to be our emu.... not my emu.

im so greedy with my stuff and selfish I havent given anything back..... you dont know the half of what ive added Arcades is but a small part

Now im having to defend myself and being selfish after 1000s of hours on xbmc dvd2xbox and mame without me mamedox wouldnt have happened. Its there for public Arcades is my build just use Mamedox or HK build both are fully open to do what you want with

Sorry it is politics now I hope you learn heaps kick arse with whatever your doing I look forword to one day seeing your vision come true but I do stand by what I said if people want stuff let me know I may not do it but I will at least think about it. Anyone can add anything they want at any time full source is out there.

There's no reason to reinvent the wheel and find an old build and start from there. Your build has everything I want except for games I want to add and remap, and fixes to your old games. Also there are some GUI changes I'd like to make which you refuse to add.

I don't know why you couldn't just shut up about your problems you saw and just fix them. Like you said, it was a very small amount of my games that I tested that you had a problem with. If you got nothing good to say, deal with it, add the damn things and move on. You seem to take pleasure in having that snarky attitude and knocking people down who have put 100's of hours into a project because you like feeling like you're better than everybody else.

I wanted to work with you, but you're a jerk.

Back to business....

Seems I'm going to have to convert my XBox into a debug box before I can make any real changes through XDK. Not as simple as I thought to setup, but no doubt much easier than the original XB coders had to work with in the early days. After all of my searching on this the newest thread with a solution for this was here:

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=456599

So.... whatever is included in Dead Parrots package can be assumed to be legal if it was advertised on this site. I can't find it where he was saying to look (3 years ago), but I'm going to keep looking so I can get started teaching myself how to fix these problems that have long gone unfixed.

If anybody knows about this stuff, I'd be mighty appreciative if you could tell me if I'm on the right track or if there is an easier/better way to make a debug box. If this is the best way, maybe somebody could save me some time and provide me with the package. I want to spend time on this, but I'm not too happy that I'm scouring Google like a noob for more crap. I thought I was done with all that a half a year ago.

Thanks again

~Rx

Oh well you wont be starting with arcades... no offense you dont have the source but good luck you are going in the right direction

PS I did fix them all I said was if you release a patch relook at your work as I found at least 60 games with issues you defend that with im dogging you but im just reporting what I found as I did test every game

Good.

Tell me what games. Don't just say "a lot of them"....

I already told anybody that if there is any problems to come to me and not bother you about it.

The names for games you won't add are still not fixed in your xbe. That will be a problem right away if you don't have them fixed before i release a patch.

Sorry you have no chance now and im looking at changing direction to a completely different build at the moment

Whatever. I don't need you.

Don't complain about a patch I make then.

should be fine as the patch is not what I want and is of little intrest to me.

Best of luck

Good luck to you too. Happy to have wasted the last two weeks of my life going in a direction on this that you aren't going to complete when you said you would.

it happened in a few days and what was done.....here. The other stuff would have been going in background. Believe it or not your non willingness to listen to constant there is errors and your attude to not listen when clearly one person knew how things work and one person had very little knoweldge and was constantly saying not to tell them of the errors just to add it as its all good. The constantly crying means I might give the people what ive done, but I wont work with you further to produce what you want as you simply wont listen to there is alot of ERRORS that need fixing about 10 percent of games have issues outside of keymapping and the need to stop it only playing on second boot so I wont support it, you will need to go back and fix the issues. This is my opion your option obviously differs that I should just add it in and let you roam free as you know what your doing and you have it undercontrol. Our opions differ so greatly that we cant work together seems very simple to me

You only gave me a few examples of games that didnt' work from the get-go and they were all in my updated spreadsheet already. To this day I have no idea what errors you're speaking about that I didn't already have marked as needing to be fixed on games before they were added. You have yet to tell me one that I didn't already know about. I do have our conversations saved because I didn't want to lose your instructions on how to alter game names with the hex-editor and how to alter the catver correctly, so I'm sure I can dig up a few quotes from you that were more than mildy abrasive. I don't think you appreciate how much time I've put into this before you say some of the things that you do. I'm certain that if you took the time to look at my updated data in the spreadsheet that you'd see we already agree on most of the errors.

For the record, when I first gave you the folder with working roms, I had NOT tested them in Arcades yet. My original intentions when starting this thread was to get a MAMEox128 working romset, but I quickly discovered that your emulator was much more advanced. I told you the night that I supplied you with what you asked me for that they were not tested in Arcades and that they were tested in MAMEox 128. After our discussion I then spent the next two days going through all of the "Add" games and the "Change" games using Arcades and tested each one individually and thouroughly, even remarking what key-mapping changes needed to be made where necessary. (This is what I'm mad that I did, because if nothing comes out of this I can't get that wasted time back) Chances are that I missed a few even with the updated spreadsheet, but that's why there are two people testing. Honestly, there are a lot of games that worked fine without fixing in Plus that needed altering in Arcades so I do know what you're talking about there. When I went through and retested roms that didn't work in Plus, about 50 of them worked in Arcades without any problems and another 25 or so will work fine after keymapping changes. I know from experience that the two emulators handle about 10% of the roms very differently. You keep mentioning 60 games that you needed to fix, and I'm pretty sure that if you look at my spreadsheet, the number of games I say needed to be fixed is pretty close to 60 if not right on.

Take a look at my spreadsheet. Just because I packed all 550+ games together the first time and didn't separate screen errors or keymapping problems doesn't mean that they weren't re-tested in Arcades. All of the info is there. Sure, I may have a few mistakes, but nowhere near the 10% you're claiming. As for the second batch that I provided to you on Monday or Tuesday, they should all be separated and I'd be suprised if you disagreed with anything I said about them in the spreadsheet.

It's a shame we can't get past our differences here. I have also have quite a few suggestions for remapping games you've already added as well, such as Robocop II so you could use the X for attack left, A for attack right and B for jump. I can't remember off the top of my head at work, but I know that it's not set up that way and it doesn't feel natural.






I'm not even sure what most of that means, but as for "you will need to go back and fix the issues", I would gladly do just that, but as you've already mentioned, I don't have the source. And you've already said that if you weren't adding the game that you wouldn't take the time out of your day to fix them for my patch.

robocop 2 is all fixed as per instructions normally if I dont comment ive fixed it.

Ill be leaving it to you to fix all stuff up im working on another project now, its been a scream but for now I have other projects happening. Im sure in time you will give a decent patch out for the people and its all good this is a head spin as allways on this forum.... Ill stick to the one I dont seem to ever have issues on

good luck guys your in good hands

WOW....
Everyone take a big deep breath in now........and out.......

Okay..... and how am I supposed to fix anything without source?

All I'm capable of fixing is game names and categories. Otherwise, I can only make suggestions.

I can't test any of your fixes without an updated build either.

Keep going ressurectionx, I like what you do.
All those games for Pcsx compatibility were awesome...

Cheers.

BritneysPAIRS, thanks for all the hard work. Im not registered on the other forum but I thought I would post my vote here since I saw your question over there. I would say:

A) All games including ones people havent heard of and all the cheap games


Maybe you could have a rubbish folder containing all the cheap games with a menu option you could check or uncheck that would allow the user to be able to see all the cheap games if they wished. If people didnt want to be bothered by all the cheap games they could leave the "show rubbish games" unchecked. It would be a win/win situation for everybody IMO.

I haven't had time to read all 10 pages, so what exactly has been done here? On my Xbox, I have two copies of MAMEoX version 0.76.1b. One of them I hex-edited so that it saves in a different location so I can have one for horizontal oriented games and one for vertical. I want to turn a TV/monitor on it's side to replicate the monitors for games like Donkey Kong, Pac-Man and 1942. Then I have:

Kawa-X 0.11 (copy 1) with these games:

Neo Geo:
Aero Fighters 2
Aero Fighters 3
Aggressors of Dark Kombat
Alpha Mission II
Andro Dunos
Bakatonosama Majong Manyuuki (Japanese)
Bang Bead
Baseball Stars Professional
Baseball Stars 2
Battle FlipShot
Blazing Star
Blue's Journey
Burning Fight
Bust-A-Move
Bust-A-Move Again
Captain Tomaday
Crossed Swords
Cyber-Lip
Digger Man
Eight Man
Football Frenzy
Ganryu
Ghost Pilots
Goal! Goal! Goal!
Gururin
The Irritating Maze
Jyanshin Densetsu: Quest of Jongmaster (Japanese)
King of the Monsters
King of the Monsters 2: The Next Thing
Last Resort
League Bowling
Legend of Success: Joe
Magical Drop II
Magical Drop III
Magician Lord
Mahjong Kyoretsuden (Japanese)
Master of Syougi (Japanese)
Metal Slug
Metal Slug 2
Metal Slug X
Metal Slug 3
Money Puzzle Exchanger
Mutation Nation
NAM-1975
Neo Bomberman
Neo Bomberman: Panic Bomber
Neo DriftOut: New Technology
Neo Mr. Do!
Neo Pong
Neo Puzzle League
Nightmare in the Dark
Ninja Combat
Ninja Commando
OverTop
Pleasure Goal: 5 on 5 Mini Soccer
Pop 'N Bounce
Power Spikes II
Prehistoric Isle 2
Pulstar
Puzzled
Puzzle de Pon
Puzzle de Pon R
Quiz King of Fighters (Japanese)
Quiz Daisousa Sen: The Last Countdown (Japanese)
Quiz Daisousa Sen 2: Quiz Meintantei Neo Geo (Japanese)
Robo Army
Sengoku
Sengoku 2
Sengoku 3
Shock Troopers
Shock Troopers: 2nd Squad
Soccer Brawl
SpinMaster
Stakes Winner
Stakes Winner 2
Strikers 1945 Plus
Street Hoop
Super Baseball 2020
Super Dodge Ball
The Super Spy
Tecmo World Soccer '96
3 Count Bout
Top Hunter: Roddy & Cathy
Top Player's Golf
Thrash Rally
Twinkle Star Sprites
Viewpoint
Wind Jammers
Zed Blade
Zupapa

CPS1:
Buster Buddies (Pang! 3)
Captain Commando
Cadillacs and Dinosaurs
Carrier Air Wing
Dynasty Wars
Dynasty Wars II: Warriors of Fate
Final Fight
Forgotten Worlds (uses rotary knob w/ button)
Ghouls 'N Ghosts
The King of Dragons
Knights of the Round
Magic Sword
Mega Man- The Power Battle
Mega Twins
Nemo
Pnickies (Japanese)
The Punisher
Strider
U.N. Squadron
Willow

CPS2:
Alien vs. Predator
Armored Warriors
Armored Warriors II: Cyberbots: Fullmetal Madness
Battle Circuit
Capcom Sports Club
Dimahoo
Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom
Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara
Eco Fighters
Giga Wing
Mars Matrix
Mega Man 2: The Power Fighters
Mighty Buster Bros. (Mighty Pang)
1944: The Loop Master
Super Gem Fighter: Mini Mix
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo

Kawa-X 0.11 (copy 2) with these games:

Neo Geo:
Fighter's History Dynamite: Karnov's Revenge
Kabuki Klash: Far East of Eden
The Last Blade
The Last Blade 2
Ninja Master's
Samurai Shodown
Samurai Shodown II
Samurai Shodown III
Samurai Shodown IV: Amakusa's Revenge
Waku Waku 7

CPS1:
Saturday Night Slam Masters
Street Fighter II: The World Warrior
Street Fighter II: Champion Edition
Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting
Street Fighter Alpha- Special CPS1 Edition

CPS2:
DarkStalkers: The Night Warriors
Night Warriors: DarkStalkers' Revenge
Darkstalkers 3: Jedah's Damnation (Vampire Savior)
Darkstalkers 3: Vampire Hunter (Vampire Hunter 2)
Darkstalkers 3: Vampire Savior (Vampire Savior 2)
Ring of Destruction: Slam Masters 2
Street Fighter Alpha
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers
Super Street Fighter II Turbo
X-Men: Children of the Atom
Marvel Super Heroes
X-Men vs. Street Fighter
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter
Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes

Kawa-X 0.11 (copy 3) with these games:
Neo Geo FF/KoF Series:
Fatal Fury: The King of Fighters
Fatal Fury 2
Fatal Fury Special
Fatal Fury 3: Road to the Final Victory
Real Bout Fatal Fury
Real Bout Fatal Fury Special
Real Bout Fatal Fury 2: The Newcomers
Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves
The King of Fighters '94
The King of Fighters '95
The King of Fighters '96
The King of Fighters '97
The King of Fighters '98: The Slugfest
The King of Fighters '99: Millenium Battle
The King of Fighters 2000
The King of Fighters 2001

FBA-X Beta 4 v0.2.94.97 with these games:

Art of Fighting
Art of Fighting 2
Art of Fighting 3: The Path of the Warrior
Breakers
Breakers Revenge
Double Dragon: The Movie
Fight Fever
Kizuna Encounter: Super Tag Battle
Neo-Geo Cup '98: The Road to Victory
Neo Turf Masters
Ragnagard
Riding Hero
Savage Reign
Super Sidekicks
Super Sidekicks 2: The World Championship
Super Sidekicks 3: The Next Glory
Super Sidekicks 4: The Ultimate 11
Voltage Fighter: Gowcaizer

Notice my custom names for some games? That is just what I refer to the game as. The reason for all of the Kawa and FBA copies is that I want to have three/four different default controller setups and the versions of these emus I have do not support different button mapping for each game. I still need to hex-edit and or find other versions of the emu to have the settings stored in different places.

What I want is only working/ non duplicate (unless there is a significant difference between a Japanese/ other country/ clone game) games with all of the Neo Geo/ CPS (listed above), daphne-supported, Killer Instinct and Mortal Kombat games removed. I am perfectly fine with playing the MK series via the official Xbox retail versions, since they don't work too well in Mame. Same goes for Street Fighter 1 and Three Wonders (Capcom Classics vol. 2). The Neo Geo and CPS games NOT in my above lists- I want them in Mame instead, such as 19XX (vertical- since my Kawa-X doesn't support TV flipping), Galaxy Fight: Universal Warrior, World Heroes Perfect, World Heroes, World Heroes 2, World Heroes 2 Jet and the Capcom trivia games which don't use a joystick, I'd prefer in Mame.

I want the World Heroes games in Mame instead of Kawa/ FBA since they don't all use the same control scheme and I want them together, and Galaxy Fight- well I forget why I wanted it in Mame instead.

I'd like separate categories for adult games, text-heavy Japanese games (I have friends that read Japanese) and maybe more.

Hey marioxb,

Send me a PM with your email address and I can send you my spreadsheet when I get a chance. It's still a work in progress, but you should be able to get some use out of it. I'm not interested at all in Kawa myself so I'll leave any of that work to you to look at. My list has purged all of the duplicates (probalby a few still in there, as it's a work in progress).

I have a majority of the working adult games separated and a whole bunch of working foreign games separated as well, but they are probably not complete lists. You'll notice in my spreadsheet that there is a large section of "untested" games. Most of these are Cassette, Play Choice 10, Megaplay, etc. but there are also quite a few Mahjong, Quiz and other foreign games that I just didn't want to devote any more time to. If you decide upon viewing that you'd like to test these and alter the spreadsheet to indicate which games work I'd be happy to have the help in that area and add them to my findings. I just have no desire to test any of those games as I'd never have them on my own emulator. Would be nice to have working romcenter datafiles of all of the working adult and foreign games to provide for others who would want them. If you do test them, I'd recommend using either MAMEox128 and/or MAMEdox Arcades to test (Preferably Arcades), as those are what I've used to test all of my games so far. Make sure you say which emu you used to test, as the results can vary greatly from emulator to emulator.

I'd be very interested in talking to you about your abilities in hex editing and exactly what it is you can do to an .xbe file with a hex editor. I'm only aware of the ability to change the way that game names show up in the GUI, but I'd love to learn a few more tricks for altering a build that has no available source code.

FYI....

Though there has been no release yet, I just saw this post on the other forum:

http://www.thraxen.com/BritneysPAIRS/added.txt

Not sure of the exact count, but I believe it's like 270 roms or so. It can be expected with more than 99% accuracy that all games added are keymapped perfectly and properly named and categorized, and 100% accuracy that they work if he added them. Thanks goes to BritneysPAIRS for all of his work adding these roms to the emu.

Unless you have advanced Assembly & reverse engineering skills, then there are not exactly many things you will be able to alter this way.
I find it odd that the names are being changed in the xbe in the first place, and not in the source code.

If you still need help getting the xdk setup, send me a PM.
Do you have the source code for Arcades now, or what is your plan there?

KM

Hey ekszbox,

Lol... I don't even have remedial assembly & reverse engineering skills.

Using the hex editor was just the way I was taught to do it. Probably would look much cleaner if I had the source and could really get in there and clean it all up. Using the hex editor tool though, you can't delete things like "(US)" in the title. You can only overwrite them with spaces. Something about there needs to be the same amount of characters after editing as there were before. Real pain in the butt, but the only means I'm aware of doing it without source.

I don't have source for Arcades, and I don't believe that I ever will. No plan really at this point. I really don't want to re-invent the wheel and start with another version of MAME and re-do a lot of things that BP has already accomplished in Arcades, but there are certain things that a lot of us want to see in Arcades that are likely never going to happen. I would like to get my hands on the tools necessary to start working on a version of MAME though. Who knows? If I like doing it, I might try my hand at my own emulator.

~Rx

You having to use a hex editor because he didn't want to give you any source code is just unreal

KM

Yeah, I know.... what a lamer. Looks like I'm the bad guy now on the other forum too because he took to hiding in his parents basement and won't talk to anyone now. Sorry, but I'm not going to get in the line to kiss his ass when he has an incomplete project and he won't release what's necessary to complete it. Especially when all he does anytime he opens his mouth is insult people. Well, either that or speak in some weird English-hybrid language that I guess only his kind of folk can understand.

Ill be handing you the source...soon and I wont help you in any way we will see who the Newbee is remember no help we will see your skill level

http://www.thraxen.com/BritneysPAIRS/arcadesSource.rar you have 24hours to grab it before I remove it take care remember no questions I wish you all the best you can do all keymapping and rom naming in here

rx quote " - I dont need you, I need the source"
Fine Print - I dont support this or put my name to this in any way shape or form

im so wanting to say I told you so, prove me wrong rx, the challenge is set, pride is on the line

....and Lennon and McCartney refused to reconcile......

They nearly did on SNL.