Scenyx Entertainment Community > Release : Basics-vision Skin

Jezz_X

Jan 22 2008, 06:39 AM

Basics-Vision

I had some spare time over the school holidays and started mucking around making a Basics-101 / VISION hybrid skin ( like they had sex and made a bastard child ) Pretty much its basics-101 redesigned into a vision look but more how I thought it should be.

The skin is now finished and ready for download. I call it "Basic-Vision" because I'm uncreative when it comes to names

Oh one side effect for people is since its a remake of basics-101 its really going to be 720p only with basic 16x9 support unlike Vision that supported 4x3 as well Hopefully I can get 4x3 support in but its not looking like its going to be easy

Make sure you check out the skin settings (Go left in settings) and check out how different it looks with "Use Alternate Home Layout" and "Use Full Icon Size" turned on

DOWNLOAD LINK
Basics-Vision_Revision_1099.rar

SVN URL <--- updated lots more than the download will ever be

CODE

https://xboxmediacenter.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/xboxmediacenter/Basics-Vision

Screenshots

throwingks

Jan 22 2008, 07:04 AM

Man, that looks nice. Keep up the good work.

<--- Sad, only has 4:3 SD TV.

mbay

Jan 22 2008, 08:09 AM

nice Jezz_X

lawdawg0931

Jan 22 2008, 08:09 AM

Outstanding work Jezz_X

I guess 'very very very soon' was no joke. Thanks for the awesome work you have done for the Vision skin (& the whole community). I really appreciate your hard work.

mindweaver

Jan 22 2008, 08:25 AM

Awesome! That was fast.

One thing though. I can't build it with the BUILD_SKIN.BAT in the SVN. I Get (translated from Swedish)
'Unexpexted '."

I get the same with the Basic-101 SVN.

Vision and MC360 Build.bat works fine.

Why is it broke? Am I missing something?

Jezz_X

Jan 22 2008, 08:29 AM

QUOTE(mindweaver @ Jan 22 2008, 07:01 PM)

Awesome! That was fast.

One thing though. I can't build it with the BUILD_SKIN.BAT in the SVN. I Get (translated from Swedish)
'Unexpexted '."

I get the same with the Basic-101 SVN.

Vision and MC360 Build.bat works fine.

Why is it broke? Am I missing something?

Probably somthing to do with localization of windows that makes them fail I will see if I can get nuka (the guy who wrote it) to look at it

Martomo

Jan 22 2008, 10:37 AM

Daddy?

Mommy?

Child?

Basics-Vision!!

At least this baby doesn't cry and has to eat, good job again as always Jezz, really like what you made of it.

//EDIT

I've added the skin to our SVN skin build directory for the people who are having trouble with compiling;

http://blackmarket.ictcsc.net/files/skins/

Martomo

Jan 22 2008, 02:34 PM

My first intention was to make a Basics-Vision Blaze theme, but the background of Blaze is badly only SD size, so will pixelate at 720p, that's why I made this Green theme instead, seeing it was the second most downloaded on the XBMC Black Market database.

Go here to download new themes for Basics-Vision

nuka1195

Jan 22 2008, 03:35 PM

@mindweaver, run it from a command prompt and let me know how far you get.

yoci

Jan 22 2008, 05:08 PM

Amazing skin
it says in the readme that you should up your icon cache
how do i do that?

shizzle01

Jan 22 2008, 10:50 PM

img nice skin

But no support for 4:3?

k@iserex

Jan 23 2008, 12:04 AM

Well that is sweet Jezz as Vision is my primary skin. I'm all into media only focus whit this skin, but no 4:3 SDTV support...

I know u can implement stuff like that into code

Nevertheless good looking skin...so ty is in order...you rock in sooo many things when it comes to Xboxing

I'm sure that many people will take good care for this bastard child of yours and I believe it will grow into something much bigger that it was suppose to represent!!! man I'm talking trash...

Stay on the bright side of live!!! Damn!!!

Jezz_X

Jan 23 2008, 12:25 AM

I am trying to work on 4x3 but I have since discovered that its really not as easy because I made the skin in 720p I have to completely remake the skin in 4x3 every single file because all the dimensions are different

If I had done it the old PM3 way and used the pal16x9 dir instead of the the 720p for the skin files it would be easy because PAL 4x3 = 720x576 and PAL 16x9 = 720x576 just with a different aspect ratio. And since 720p = 1280x720 all the dimensions for the pixels are off and I have to redo every x,y,width,height, for every label image animation etc etc etc.

What I am kind of hoping for is jmarshall to make me the app he mentioned that uses xbmc scaling code (that it uses to display a 720p skin in 4x3) to actually go through the xmls and auto output me a set of PAL4x3 ones with the correct values

and then I would only have simple adjustments to make it proper 4x3

Jezz_X

Jan 23 2008, 04:48 AM

As Promised started working on coverflow for the music and video section expect it soon enough

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NineT9mustang

Jan 23 2008, 07:25 AM

Just tried the skin Jezz_X! Its absolutly amazing!

Everything feels real solid and I didn't experience any bugs at all... Much better then the original default Vision! I wish I had the time to put a Project Mayhem 3 theme to it

Kudos on everything, this is a lot more then an edited vision, i highly suggest others try it, you wont be disapointed

Looking forward to that coverflow as well, that looks realllll sexy, especially with the background your using

and props to mikebeecham for the icos, they fit Vision perfectly in HD

and lmao@ 'The Child Is Born', nice1 jezz!

mindweaver

Jan 23 2008, 08:20 AM

QUOTE(nuka1195 @ Jan 22 2008, 05:11 PM)

@mindweaver, run it from a command prompt and let me know how far you get.

I tried it from command prompt. When I do that I get the error I posted above "Unexpeted '." When I run the .BAT file as is, it just opens and close in a sec.

Jezz_X

Jan 23 2008, 11:27 AM

And Music Coverflow (both video and music are now in the svn btw)

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JoeUser38

Jan 23 2008, 12:13 PM

I just tried this out, even though I have a 4:3 TV, and must say it looks nice (squashed a bit, but that's because it's not made for 4:3... sure hope you can get that working!).

A couple of requests, though...

Any chance of seeing the Big Wide Icon views, especially in the Programs (I would REALLY miss this view for my games). And being able to select a background picture for the home page in the skin settings? And I really do miss being able to hit the up arrow to go to the Favorites. I know it's a work in progress, just throwing some suggestions out.

Jezz_X

Jan 23 2008, 12:40 PM

QUOTE(JoeUser38 @ Jan 23 2008, 10:49 PM)

..........Any chance of seeing the Big Wide Icon views, especially in the Programs (I would REALLY miss this view for my games). And being able to select a background picture for the home page in the skin settings? And I really do miss being able to hit the up arrow to go to the Favorites. I know it's a work in progress, just throwing some suggestions out.

Big wide icons don't work well on 720p too much blank space on the sides but id I get 4x3 working it will be the way it works because 2 wide in wide icons is 4x3 is too small

Background image huge possiblilty been thinking about it for a while but I just did a change that screws up that idea until linux gets fixed and I can convert it back to how it was

Favourites on up Allready added that to the svn just about 30mins ago

JoeUser38

Jan 23 2008, 01:46 PM

QUOTE(Jezz_X @ Jan 23 2008, 06:16 AM)

Big wide icons don't work well on 720p too much blank space on the sides but id I get 4x3 working it will be the way it works because 2 wide in wide icons is 4x3 is too small

Background image huge possiblilty been thinking about it for a while but I just did a change that screws up that idea until linux gets fixed and I can convert it back to how it was

Favourites on up Allready added that to the svn just about 30mins ago

Just updated! So, do you plan on replacing the Wide with Big Wide in the 4:3, or include both? If there aren't any technical problems, I personally would prefer to have both (2 wide icons isn't too small on my 50" rear-projection 4:3 here... and I do actually use both views).

NineT9mustang

Jan 23 2008, 10:15 PM

Been using it for a bit and still love it

I 2nd the Big Wide Icon feature, I do miss it a lot

and nice to see UP/Favorites is back, i missed that too

dxg836

Jan 23 2008, 11:41 PM

Gotta say I love this new skin.

I love it so much I thought I'd have my first go at creating a theme for a skin.

Well here's some screenshots and a rapidshare link.

Jezz, I must apologise to you for making a crappy orange version of your fantastic skin - I did it on the cheap!

http://rapidshare.com/files/86079613/orange.xpr.html

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Tickethead

Jan 24 2008, 01:50 AM

dxg836,

I see you have an icon for Project Pandora in the pics above... Is that a python script? Can you actually use Pandora on your xbox?

Sorry for the derailment folks!

Thanks!

Jezz_X

Jan 24 2008, 03:44 AM

QUOTE(Tickethead @ Jan 24 2008, 12:26 PM)

dxg836,

I see you have an icon for Project Pandora in the pics above... Is that a python script? Can you actually use Pandora on your xbox?

Sorry for the derailment folks!

Thanks!

The skin uses them by default thanks to permission from Mikebeecham who made them so he just recolored them for the theme

competes2win

Jan 24 2008, 06:22 AM

Hey Jezz, nice work as always.

One question. What could be the problem if no icons are showing up when I enable the use alternate home view?

EDIT: please disregard... I'll update my xbmc, forgot I took a week off, That should probably fix it. Sorry.

hubemx

Jan 25 2008, 04:21 AM

I'm lovin' it

Too bad that in 4:3 video coverflow looks to squashed.

Jezz_X

Jan 25 2008, 05:34 AM

I managed to write myself a little script to help me auto convert all the files good news is it worked

so here are some early shots of the homescreen converted to proper 4x3
Just as a note my converter screwed up coverflow so I will have to make 4x3 with no coverflow to start with until I can redo it

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Tickethead

Jan 25 2008, 05:40 AM

Well done Jezz,

I have a new favorite skin and that is saying alot as I haven't found one to replace PM3 for any length of time!

Thanks for the time you spent getting this together, the scene appreciates it...

Tickethead

Jezz_X

Jan 25 2008, 06:45 AM

and some proper 4x3 icon views

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R111

Jan 25 2008, 09:28 AM

will Basics-vision get custom background in the future?

Jezz_X

Jan 25 2008, 10:28 AM

QUOTE(R111 @ Jan 25 2008, 08:04 PM)

will Basics-vision get custom background in the future?

My dirty little secret is I added it then removed it because none of the images I added made it look anygood this was the only decent looking (another vista one) of all I tried all the transperant black made them look funny

So I guess down the track I might be convinced to re add it but too busy doing 4x3 now

R111

Jan 25 2008, 11:08 AM

hope once you're free you be able to re-add the feature.

Then we can see theme ported from vision to BV.. or all new themes

mindweaver

Jan 26 2008, 04:56 PM

Awesome work with the skin Jezz_X! I love it. Looks like it will beat Vision as my primary.

I have some suggestions though.

1. An option to set clock or icon in the middle of homescreen. the orb looks unfinished. Or is it just that I'm not used to it just being black yet. But an option would be great.

2. And if the option is to set clock in the middle, there might have to be an option to disable clock/date on top. The same below, if you have RSS disabled, I would like the two graphic elements below to disappear.

3. The most important suggestion, please create a basic list option. The list2 that is now is useless with the GIANT icon to the right, making my filenames scroll. So it would be awesome with an ordinary list option aswell.

Hmm, that's all for now. As I said earlier, great job.. it looks great. Love the background and that it feels more HD than the orig. Vision.

Thanks.

EDIT: Just have to add that I the new menuanimation in home screen is way better than orig Vision. The OSD menu when playing video is also much nicer now!

yoci

Jan 26 2008, 05:09 PM

QUOTE(Jezz_X @ Jan 25 2008, 11:04 AM)

My dirty little secret is I added it then removed it because none of the images I added made it look anygood this was the only decent looking (another vista one) of all I tried all the transperant black made them look funny

So I guess down the track I might be convinced to re add it but too busy doing 4x3 now

I use a custom background and I think it looks quite nice.

I just replaced the background.png from the SVN with my own before I compiled it.
It would be nice to see a custom background option in the future though.

Jezz_X

Jan 26 2008, 07:25 PM

QUOTE(mindweaver @ Jan 27 2008, 03:32 AM)

Awesome work with the skin Jezz_X! I love it. Looks like it will beat Vision as my primary.

I have some suggestions though.

1. An option to set clock or icon in the middle of homescreen. the orb looks unfinished. Or is it just that I'm not used to it just being black yet. But an option would be great.

2. And if the option is to set clock in the middle, there might have to be an option to disable clock/date on top. The same below, if you have RSS disabled, I would like the two graphic elements below to disappear.

3. The most important suggestion, please create a basic list option. The list2 that is now is useless with the GIANT icon to the right, making my filenames scroll. So it would be awesome with an ordinary list option aswell.

Hmm, that's all for now. As I said earlier, great job.. it looks great. Love the background and that it feels more HD than the orig. Vision.

Thanks.

EDIT: Just have to add that I the new menuanimation in home screen is way better than orig Vision. The OSD menu when playing video is also much nicer now!

1) OK I might make it so if the time goes in the middle the date stays up the top I agree about it lookign empty but I just had no idea wht to put in there
2) disable rss in the xbmc settings you mean ?
3) hrmm really not to sure about this one it makes sense to me but I have never had a problem do you use 720p because it fits lots more text in or some other rez ?. I know this maybe be a problem in 4x3

QUOTE(yoci @ Jan 27 2008, 03:45 AM)

I use a custom background and I think it looks quite nice.

I just replaced the background.png from the SVN with my own before I compiled it.
It would be nice to see a custom background option in the future though.

Yeah thats a nice one I guess its knowing where to look

after I finish 4x3 I will get into adding more stuff

mindweaver

Jan 26 2008, 08:27 PM

QUOTE(Jezz_X @ Jan 26 2008, 09:01 PM)

1) OK I might make it so if the time goes in the middle the date stays up the top I agree about it lookign empty but I just had no idea wht to put in there
2) disable rss in the xbmc settings you mean ?
3) hrmm really not to sure about this one it makes sense to me but I have never had a problem do you use 720p because it fits lots more text in or some other rez ?. I know this maybe be a problem in 4x3
Yeah thats a nice one I guess its knowing where to look

after I finish 4x3 I will get into adding more stuff

2. Yeah, when I disable RSS in the xbmc settings, then it would be nice if those bars would disappear

3. I use 720p. And with that huge ass icon to the right it looks like 640x480 res

I would like regular list, like in all others skins. Is it hard to implement?

Jezz_X

Jan 26 2008, 08:31 PM

not hard at all just personaly I've never needed it

mindweaver

Jan 26 2008, 08:40 PM

QUOTE(Jezz_X @ Jan 26 2008, 10:07 PM)

not hard at all just personaly I've never needed it

Ah. but please do it. the List2 just gives the text like 40-45% of the total area of my TV. that is a waste

Jezz_X

Jan 27 2008, 06:46 AM

I'm guessing your not a big fan of custom covers and episode screenshots

its not wasted space if you use them

mindweaver

Jan 27 2008, 10:49 AM

QUOTE(Jezz_X @ Jan 27 2008, 07:22 AM)

I'm guessing your not a big fan of custom covers and episode screenshots

its not wasted space if you use them

Hehe I like all those things, but I see so gawd damn much, that I don't have time to set icons/screenshots on all. I have made custom folder graphics that I use for my Movie dir and TVseries dir. But that is about it.

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But even if I have episode screens, the with that the text is allowed to have is still to narrow

The beauty of vision was that I get lots of space so that I can see my items to the fullest

Jezz_X

Jan 27 2008, 07:15 PM

don't worry I will add it just been a little busy

lawdawg0931

Jan 28 2008, 06:00 AM

Really enjoying this skin, customizing a little. Agree with the use of custom backgrounds. Thought I'd share a look at mine. IPB Image

BecomethemonsteR

Jan 28 2008, 06:25 AM

I really like the skin!!! I too would like to see custom backgrounds as an option. Here is a screen shot of one I really like.

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R111

Jan 28 2008, 06:53 AM

QUOTE(lawdawg0931 @ Jan 28 2008, 06:36 AM)

Thought I'd share a look at mine.

how about sharing the png. so far everyone is sharing screenshots..

whats bad$ is custom folder background. so can make use of all our background collection..

Jezz_X

Jan 28 2008, 10:19 AM

QUOTE(lawdawg0931 @ Jan 28 2008, 04:36 PM)

Really enjoying this skin, customizing a little. Agree with the use of custom backgrounds. Thought I'd share a look at mine

yeah this one is nice care to upload it (link only thanks) so I can use it as a test and not be disgusted while adding the feature back

BecomethemonsteR

Jan 28 2008, 04:18 PM

I have one question, not with this skin alone but with every skin and maybe XBMC. Why does the Xbox never remember the correct time and date? I can set the time and turn it off and back on ten minutes later and it always says 8:00 PM and the date is usually May 15, 2005.

Hitcher

Jan 28 2008, 10:57 PM

QUOTE(BecomethemonsteR @ Jan 28 2008, 03:54 PM)

I have one question, not with this skin alone but with every skin and maybe XBMC. Why does the Xbox never remember the correct time and date? I can set the time and turn it off and back on ten minutes later and it always says 8:00 PM and the date is usually May 15, 2005.

You have to leave it plugged into the mains otherwise it'll lose it.

gac

Jan 29 2008, 12:01 AM

QUOTE(mindweaver @ Jan 27 2008, 11:25 AM)

Mindweaver,

I love your custom icons

I am looking at doing the same for my collection - any chance you could share them with us?

lawdawg0931

Jan 29 2008, 01:02 AM

Here is the link to the background image I'm using. 4Shared

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BecomethemonsteR

Jan 29 2008, 02:37 AM

QUOTE(Hitcher @ Jan 28 2008, 05:33 PM)

You have to leave it plugged into the mains otherwise it'll lose it.

Like I said, I can turn it off then on ten minutes later and the date resets. I haven't unplugged it in close to 4 years.