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mkjones
England for Obama is a new website which has been created by English supporters of the only possible 2008 American Presidential Candidate who can bring real change and enthusiasm to the world.. Senator Barack Obama

Link is: http://www.englandforobama.com/

If there are any English/British Obama supports on the forum drop me a line: support@englandforobama.com

The site REALLY needs help at the moment as I only have 2 editors/writers working on content and I am going on holiday next week blink.gif

If you think you can help maintain the site by adding content such as links to stories or writing articles please get in touch smile.gif

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Reaper527
isn't the "unable to vote" crowd a rather odd demographic to unite for an election?
gronned
Yeah, really...

But we can try and affect the voters the best way we can. If one think about the last couple of elections it feels like the rest of the world should have been allowed to vote in the american election as it affects the rest of the world almost as much as USA...(of course I'm not totally serious).

I doubt USA has ever been more hated than during Bush's reign, and your economy is really pathetic now. A weak $-US affects the rest of the world heavily, and I wish it was sorted out as soon as possible, but how can any of the candidates fix the situation in Iraq? I doubt we'll ever see a proper solution to one of the most stupid wars ever fought, and then we won't see a better economy either for a long time.
pug_ster
Obama is probably the most 'untested' candidate out there. I wouldn't be surprised that the same people who voted for him in the primaries are going to vote for McCain in the election later this year. The Republican Corruption Machine just have to have another Harold Ford like racist ad and McCain will be president. Unlike Obama, Hillary will have a better chance to win because she has survived the negative spotlight.
pug_ster
The Republican Attack Machine is hoping for Obama to be nominated as the frontrunner for the Democrats. All they have to do is to make these so called 'facts' stick to him and I got these 'facts' from a political blog website. Hillary can easily beat McCain, and McCain can easily beat Obama. I hope that the leftover delegates will vote for Hillary or we are doomed.

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Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr. (black muslim) of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas. (white atheist ).When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced and his father returned to Kenya. His mother married Lolo Soetoro -- a Muslim -- moving to Jakarta with Obama when he was six years old. Within six months he had learned to speak the Indonesian language. Obama spent "two years in a Muslim school, then two more in a Catholic school" in Jakarta. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim while admitting that he was once a Muslim, mitigating that damning information by saying that, for two years, he also attended a Catholic school.Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was a radical Muslim who migrated from Kenya to Jakarta, Indonesia. He met Obama's mother, Ann Dunham-a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas-at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Obama, Sr. and Dunham divorced when Barack, Jr. was two.Obama's spinmeisters are now attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came from his father and that influence was temporary at best.In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya immediately following the divorce and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.Dunham married another Muslim, Lolo Soetoro who educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta's Wahabbi schools. Wahabbism is the radical teaching that created the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad on the industrialized world.Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when you are seeking political office in the United States, Obama joined the United Church of Christ to help purge any notion that he is still a Muslim.Handsome . . . Charming . . . Winsome . . . Dangerous . . . Deceptive . . . Determined.....DEADLY.... AND NOW DOOMED!
pug_ster
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/23/...in3869011.shtml

Even McCain aides are lobbying for Obama. So somebody wants Obama to beat Hillary.
hamwbone
im on the any one but hillary bandwagon, and no religous yokels!
Reaper527
QUOTE(pug_ster @ Feb 23 2008, 01:05 PM) *

Hillary can easily beat McCain, and McCain can easily beat Obama.


come again? if hillary gets the democratic nomination, she will single handedly unite all republicans for a record breaking turnout. i don't like hillary or obama, and even though i don't like mccain, i would prefer to see hillary get the nomination, as mccain would tear her apart on election day.

hillary and obama both lack experience, and both have plans that will result in major tax hikes. with the economy the way it is, i personally don't want to see taxes go any higher than they already are. i think the fact that mccain admits he doesn't know much about the economy is a good thing, as he is more likely to listen to his aids than make his own boneheaded decision.

(and while i'm talking economics, can we get a viable candidate who is actually against illegal immigration? how did everyone with a plan on the issue get knocked out of the race! hillary, obama, and mccain all have TERRIBLE illegal immigration plans)
pug_ster
QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Feb 25 2008, 06:27 AM) *

come again? if hillary gets the democratic nomination, she will single handedly unite all republicans for a record breaking turnout. i don't like hillary or obama, and even though i don't like mccain, i would prefer to see hillary get the nomination, as mccain would tear her apart on election day.

hillary and obama both lack experience, and both have plans that will result in major tax hikes. with the economy the way it is, i personally don't want to see taxes go any higher than they already are. i think the fact that mccain admits he doesn't know much about the economy is a good thing, as he is more likely to listen to his aids than make his own boneheaded decision.

(and while i'm talking economics, can we get a viable candidate who is actually against illegal immigration? how did everyone with a plan on the issue get knocked out of the race! hillary, obama, and mccain all have TERRIBLE illegal immigration plans)



Hillary is hated because she has been beaten down by Republicans all these years, so there's really nothing more that the Republicans can find in Hillary's closet to make those Republicans hate her any more.

Remember 04's Kerry presidential campagain? Those swiftboat ads ultimately swiftboated him. Obama is a virtual unkown and those same people can swiftboat Obama by associating him with a muslim terrorist, and that could more easily concience Republicans, as well as a good number of independents and Democrats to vote for McCain.

You think I might be making up stories but just see what happens when Obama gets nominated.
pug_ster
Need me to say more? And I am not talking about Hillary's wrinkles.

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Reaper527
QUOTE(pug_ster @ Feb 25 2008, 05:32 PM) *

Need me to say more? And I am not talking about Hillary's wrinkles.

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you might need to say more because i don't get the point of your image. its a generic hillary pic, and a pic of obama wearing the native garb while in somalia.

here's some more info about the pic
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7263783.stm
gcskate27
read his previous post... he's saying people will demonize obama with the supposed muslim link and thats whats happened in that case and others... seems all any rep can do is remind everyone of obama's middle name rolleyes.gif

*the whole thing is fucking stupid anyway... who gives a shit if he is muslim? what would it effect really?
pug_ster
Personally for me, I wouldn't care if Obama or Clinton gets elected as president. McCain is just another GWB wannabe. Obama has a silver tongue and Clinton is probably going to lose because she gives crappy speeches anyways.

Clinton could've just remind voters what she has done for its fellow Democrats and what she could do as president. People make mistakes, she could've remind us that she is human and was wrong when she voted for the Iraq war and Nafta but things are good when Bill Clinton was president and Hillary was a part of it.

Well, it is kind of late anyways for Clinton. Let's hope that Obama's silver tongue can withstand the wrath of the Republican Propaganda machine whether call him a muslim terrorist, pulling another Harold Ford, or call his wife an angry b1tch. I know that is stupid, but hey, you'll be surprised how primitive some people are when they vote with their emotions rather than their brains.
pug_ster
I have said that it is only time when more dirty secrets start coming out from Obama's closet.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23634881/

This guy goes to (Christian) church whose pastor is a white hater and blames America for 9/11. You know, I thought maybe he would make a good VP. But if he becomes a democratic nominee, McCain will definatly win. The mostly white Americans won't vote for White haters.
throwingks
^ I disagree. There is an article on his homepage denouncing the preacher. And, a rare showing on foxnews.
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/62894.html
Plus, if his feet get held to the fire for this, then McCain will get called out for the same thing. He himself has done racist crap. It wasn't done via proxy.

Currently, there is a much greater chance of Obama getting elected than Hillary. Hillary is pulling Republican votes (cause they know she'll lose the primary) and she is still getting her butt kicked by Obama. She must win by over 60% in all of the remaining states to win. She isn't even going to win every state, so that means the ones she does win has to be even greater percentage. Her only hope is Michigan.

Oh, and since we all like silly dress up pics, here is one for fun.IPB Image
HOUSECAT
Black people are racist! Barrack obama is receiving almost every single black persons vote!! Being white I have no choice but to vote for Hillary cause it's like Blacks vs Whites.

Not 1 black person is voting for Hillary why should one white person vote for barrack....and it's because the mere fact that he's black their voting for him they don't care what his views or opinions are.

Plus barrack Obama is Anti-video games so screw him!
sabbath_dude
QUOTE(HOUSECAT @ Mar 15 2008, 04:41 PM) *

Black people are racist! Barrack obama is receiving almost every single black persons vote!! Being white I have no choice but to vote for Hillary cause it's like Blacks vs Whites.

Not 1 black person is voting for Hillary why should one white person vote for barrack....and it's because the mere fact that he's black their voting for him they don't care what his views or opinions are.

Plus barrack Obama is Anti-video games so screw him!
Sounds like you are the racist here.

This thread has gone way off topic.
WetPamper
QUOTE(HOUSECAT @ Mar 15 2008, 08:11 PM) *

Black people are racist! Barrack obama is receiving almost every single black persons vote!! Being white I have no choice but to vote for Hillary cause it's like Blacks vs Whites.

Not 1 black person is voting for Hillary why should one white person vote for barrack....and it's because the mere fact that he's black their voting for him they don't care what his views or opinions are.

Plus barrack Obama is Anti-video games so screw him!


Idiots like yourself are the reason why we still have the Electoral College. Your lowered IQ prevents you from discerning the truth from a lie, not even a good one at that.

I was watching Bill Maher last week and he spoke about people like you and the other resident Hillbilly on XS.

No matter how much you repeat a lie it is does not make it true.

Barack Obama is Muslim, but has a PASTOR (<- Christian), not an IMAN (<- Muslim).

QUOTE(HOUSECAT @ Mar 15 2008, 08:11 PM) *

Not 1 black person is voting for Hillary why should one white person vote for barrack....and it's because the mere fact that he's black their voting for him they don't care what his views or opinions are.


So I guess all the whites that have voted for Obama are also racist. I guess the majority of America is racist/sexist since Obama has won the majority of the state primaries, leading in sworn delegates, and popular vote.


IF I were you I would vote for McCAIN




HOUSECAT
QUOTE(WetPamper @ Mar 15 2008, 02:05 PM) *
So I guess all the whites that have voted for Obama are also racist. I guess the majority of America is racist/sexist since Obama has won the majority of the state primaries, leading in sworn delegates, and popular vote.





NO you don't get my point that's what im saying.....white people are voting for obama.... but black people aren't voting for Hilliary. That's why their racist. So now that their being racist I feel like I should be racist too and vote for Hillary just cause she's white.

Also look at the the numbers..... barrack obama only wins inner city votes in all the primaries...LMAO did you see the map of TEXAS the day of primary all country countys were for hillary and barrack only won the inner city's because of the black vote.
pug_ster
QUOTE(throwingks @ Mar 15 2008, 02:29 PM) *

^ I disagree. There is an article on his homepage denouncing the preacher. And, a rare showing on foxnews.
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/62894.html
Plus, if his feet get held to the fire for this, then McCain will get called out for the same thing. He himself has done racist crap. It wasn't done via proxy.

Currently, there is a much greater chance of Obama getting elected than Hillary. Hillary is pulling Republican votes (cause they know she'll lose the primary) and she is still getting her butt kicked by Obama. She must win by over 60% in all of the remaining states to win. She isn't even going to win every state, so that means the ones she does win has to be even greater percentage. Her only hope is Michigan.

Oh, and since we all like silly dress up pics, here is one for fun. (image deleted)


The questions by this Fox guy is clearly a setup. When Obama is questioned about his Christian Church and his Christian Faith is inviting attack from Christian Conservatives. Obama listened and believed to Wright's sermons but never heard the hateful words from some of Wright's sermons. This topic will come back up again and again and it will hurt Obama in the long run. I'm just surprised that the Media didn't beat up Obama about this issue like the Media beat up on Hillary if she cried or if she had show her cleavage. Again, Hillary has a poorly run campaign until recently.

I recall that people will vote for Obama/McCain 47%-44% and Hillary/McCain 45-46%/44%. But who are Obama's supporters and delegates so far? They came from all the red states what voted traditionally Republican. While he might pick up on one of the southern states, he will probably lose the poorer white blue states like Florida, Ohia and Pennsylvania.

Obama went to Kenya on his own. Whereas those pictures of the Clintons, was done while on diplomatic meetings while president. You don't hear Republican pundits bashing Clintons for it.
throwingks
^ I don't have any numbers in front of me, but I thought it was more drastic than that.

QUOTE(pug_ster @ Mar 16 2008, 12:26 AM) *
Obama went to Kenya on his own. Whereas those pictures of the Clintons, was done while on diplomatic meetings while president. You don't hear Republican pundits bashing Clintons for it.
I don't watch a lot of TV, but from what I could tell it wasn't the Republicans raising a ruckus over it (aside from the extremists), it was Hillary herself. Wasn't it rumored that her camp is who released the picture?
pug_ster
You know I think Obama's career and campagin can be summarized by what David Paterson said "I feel that I'm sitting on a sand castle that other people built." He probably wouldn't go to harvard if wasn't for affirmative action. His campagin was helped by hollywood and Oprah. During the primaries the Media didn't even want to touch Obama for the fear of discrimination. They rather make news of why Hillary cried or why is she showing her cleavage rather than ask questions of Obama's association of Rezco and Wright. This guy is clearly inexperienced and his campagin is run on hope instead of experience.

This issue with Wright is already putting Obama's campagin on damage control. I see people posting comments that is even more damaging than the hate for Hillary.
lordvader129
QUOTE(HOUSECAT @ Mar 15 2008, 01:43 PM) *

NO you don't get my point that's what im saying.....white people are voting for obama.... but black people aren't voting for Hilliary. That's why their racist. So now that their being racist I feel like I should be racist too and vote for Hillary just cause she's white.

Also look at the the numbers..... barrack obama only wins inner city votes in all the primaries...LMAO did you see the map of TEXAS the day of primary all country countys were for hillary and barrack only won the inner city's because of the black vote.

did it ever occur to you that maybe obama is winning the inner city vote because of all the work hes done in inner city chicago and not just because hes black?
pug_ster
Just heard about Obama's eloquent speech yesterday and it is all words but no substance. It is just another 'black victimization' speech of how Black people have been oppressed all these hundreds of years. What Jackson, Sharpton, Wright, and now Obama said just put their own flock down even more. Blacks have come a long way since the days of the MLK civil rights movement and Obama and his wife have reaped the benefits of that. In Obama's everlong quest to find another white racist in this country, they have failed to look for the racist within themselves.
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