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daov2a
What HDD and adapter are you using? And what version xbox are you using? Is it a softmod?

Another thing I did a while back that I did not mention that allowed more consistent booting (75% or so) in to the dash was making all of the dash files point to one place in the Xecutor BIOS, which is to say, since I boot XBMC only, I edited every dash to be default.xbe out of the five priority options. If perchance the HDD is powering on too slowly for the BIOS to quickly see the first default.xbe or is having trouble loading the partition table for some reason, it will then jump to the next and so on. Since you're booting multiple dashes, I don't know if this will work for you or if you even have a mod chip on the box but I guess it's worth a shot?
ThisLittlePiggy
QUOTE(daov2a @ Oct 29 2008, 05:50 PM) *

What HDD and adapter are you using? And what version xbox are you using? Is it a softmod?

Another thing I did a while back that I did not mention that allowed more consistent booting (75% or so) in to the dash was making all of the dash files point to one place in the Xecutor BIOS, which is to say, since I boot XBMC only, I edited every dash to be default.xbe out of the five priority options. If perchance the HDD is powering on too slowly for the BIOS to quickly see the first default.xbe or is having trouble loading the partition table for some reason, it will then jump to the next and so on. Since you're booting multiple dashes, I don't know if this will work for you or if you even have a mod chip on the box but I guess it's worth a shot?


I used a WD 250 gig drive, a cheap $7 off ebay, and tried in 2 xboxs one tsop one softmod. I want to use it on a softmod, so I don't have the option of the multiple dashes. But that's a really good idea, since on my tsop box it usually found it by the second one. adding 2 or 3 more would most likely solve the problem.
Bomb Bloke
As a quick recap:

Using the same adapter that works for run088.

Using the same HD753LJ (750gb Samsung drive) that worked for BigPotty (if you choose to forget that they kept dieing on him with the "click of death").

v1.0 console with the X2 5035 BIOS flashed to TSOP. Boots to "Live config loading...." screen and then (very slowly) to an error screen (takes about 15min to get there).

Anyway, tonight I finally rigged up an external PSU and tried the delayed power-on trick.

If I start the console then power up the drive, I get a FRAG within a couple of seconds (unless I power up the drive real quick, as in, less then half a second after starting the X-Box). Still keeps on displaying "Live config loading" either way.

If I start the drive then power up the console, it also still gets stuck on the "Live config loading" screen (though the LED stays green).

Tried various time intervals between starting up either the drive or the console, ranging from about one to twenty seconds.

Drive with adapter seems to work quite well in my PC. Don't have a SATA motherboard, nor a SATA cable. Gonna see if I can get that program to that goes down to SATA/150 speed to work via the adapter, I guess.
run088
QUOTE(ozreplicator @ Jun 22 2008, 07:29 AM) *

Well, I moved the adapter and 1TB drive from the 1.0 unit to a 1.6 xbox - same result with slow boots and hangs.
I then tried an identical adapter I bought with the other one as a spare - this time both xboxes worked perfectly every time.
I checked the faulty adapter with a magnifying glass and found a solder bridge between 2 of the legs on the main chip on the board. This isn't present on the good one. I haven't been able to remove it yet to test, but the seller on ebay has offered to send a replacement anyway. due to the gap between the legs, the short is barely visible to the naked eye.
The soldering on these boards (even the one that works) is quite dodgy, and wouldn't be surprised if there are many more out there with similar faults. They are probably all made in the same Chinese factory no matter what brand name is on them.

Do to this post and my personal experiance I think you can buy a few of the exact same adapters and get different results with each one.I know I have.Of the 2 adapters that I have that are the same one works 75% and the other is working at 100%.The 3rd adapter I have which is of a different kind seems to work exactly like yours Bloke but it did work for around a week with terrible load times before it stopped booting at all.

Here is a link on 2 different adapters I think might have better results.Look at the specs of each on transfer rate speeds as well as systems it supports.The other listings dont have the flexibilities they only work on newer operating systems or are limited to the speeds produced at 100/133

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A:IT&ih=001


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A:IT&ih=024
Bomb Bloke
"Exactly" like mine in that it works perfectly in a PC?
run088
In that it sits at the x2 5035 loading screen forever and after a long period of time if it does do anything else it will error out.I will be able to test in a pc soon because I am redoing my system.I will let you know how that turns out when I try it.


Did you look at the specs of the adapters I linked if so what do you think about those?Do you think that the flexibility of the speeds produced by these down to a 33bus and as high as a 150bus and the fact they are compatible back to windows95 will make a difference?

I am not for certain the exact speed that the xbox runs the hdd.I know that it is commonly known the xbox uses 133bus but I can not find a diagram that list the hdd speed.The processor runs at 133bus to the gpu but the gpu runs at 200 to the ram and the mcpx chip.Bunnys book gives no indicater in its diagrams I can find that clock the hdd speed if it did I missed it.

I am with everybody else as far as I think the problem is related to the speed but I dont know wheather or not for sure it is to slow or to fast.It does different things that lead me to believe it could be either way.

The best suggestion I can give anyone doing the mod right now until we figure out the exact problem in why the results very on the mod is to try several adapters.This worked for me and atleast one other person.
Bomb Bloke
In terms of operating system compatibility, I reckon they just throw that in to impress those who don't know better. That is to say, if the adapter isn't compatible with a given operating system then it isn't making the SATA drive appear as a proper PATA drive.

I mean, even DOS works with RAM drives (good luck finding something faster then those).

You might be onto something with the ATA speed, I really don't know enough to say otherwise. But I seem to remember that the console should work quite happily with an ATA133 drive via an 80 pin cable.

Well, I say 80 pin - I just did a bit of research on the things and it turns out they're more correctly known as 80 "conductor" cables. Those 40 extra wires are all grounds to soak up electrical interference - that is to say, they don't add more bandwidth to your IDE bus, they add reliability. They should offer improvements to drive performance regardless of what your system is "capable of".

It's also interesting to discover that originally if you wanted to use an IDE drive you needed to get an ISA (and then later a PCI) card to do it. Eventually it was Intel who got the bright idea of sticking the controller directly onto the motherboard, but best I can make out the things still run through a PCI BUS.

I found this site to be interesting reading, though I'm not sure how much of what it covers can be applied here.

Anyway! Plugged the drive into the oldest computer I could be bothered digging out (about 600mhz on the CPU, Windows 98), FDISK'ed it, formatted it, played games off it... I think my oldest rig runs at about 133mhz, if I get bored enough I might plug into that and see what happens.

Downloaded the app from Samsung to try and force SATA/150 but it didn't work (though it did at least detect the drive through the IDE adapter). Guess I'll try and hunt down an 80 wire cable or hijack a SATA capable computer off a friend, see what difference it makes.

Dunno if you're still about BigPotty, but if you are, I hear a lot of people fixed issues with this particular drive by disabling "command queuing"...
run088
I dont know what to think about the individual drive you have it could be the problem as well.

Because I have 3 different adapters and 2 hdds to test with and countless xboxes laying around I think it really just is an adapter issue of some kind now.This is the part the triggers the different results for errors.It does not matter what other part I have changed my 1tb or my 1.5 tb drive or the xboxes.Only the adapter itself.And 2 are from the exact same model line and bought from the same place 6 months apart.

The same member I quoted a few post ago had the same results having 2 different adapters that were the same model bought at the same time in a package deal and 1 worked 50% and the other worked 100% on the same xbox and hdd.

There could be a compatibility issue with the hdd.Maybe somehow we should start a compatibility thread on sata hdds and adapters.Maybe you could put somekind of poll thing in a thread and hdd models can be added and just a simple yes\no\yes with problems then in the thread people could list the setup and the results.This way we might also see the pattern.Or some other way if you have a better idea.It is something that a few people seem interested enough in to make it worth while to do based on the amount of different people who have posted in the thread about it.
witnessmenow
QUOTE(minino666 @ Oct 29 2008, 08:35 PM) *

witnessmenow. Can you read the main chip code, id, model marked? i mean the main chip on the sata-ide adaptor from http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12537

Thanks in advance


The chip reads:

SATALink
HW6298


I cant make out the bottom two lines.
ThisLittlePiggy
I wonder if we could just boot off the dvd drive, and have that default.xbe point to the real dash on the hard drive.
witnessmenow
I have my circuit basically built, The circuit powers the hard drive correctly anyways I just need to integrate the Xbox power button into it(should have it tested this evening).

I also didn't realise that pushing the power switch grounds the one of the pins on the xbox, thats what initiates the xbox turning on so i need to change one part of the circuit.

Also My circuit after 2 seconds outputs a continuous signal rather than a pulse, which is fine in terms of turning the xbox on and keeping it on but I'll have to see how it fairs with turning it off

When I have it working 100% I'll post up the circuit diagram and some pictures.

Did any one try using just a regular switch to do the same thing? I might still include one as a backup plan smile.gif
Grim187
i used a switch to turn on the power before i turned on the xbox and its been working good, today i booted it up and g was empty, im waiting on that adapter from dx hopefully that will fix the 09 problem.

Edit: i got the sata to ide from Deal Extreme and its the same problem as the one i got off of ebay.
BigPotty
Hello Everyone.

Been very busy for the last few months.

Finally got around to getting my 3rd Samsung drive replaced. Samsung was such a pain in the ass to deal with! After a lot of run around, Newegg agreed to refund my money. Thanks again Newegg! No thanks goes to Samsung and your horrible quality control.

So now I have a nice new 1TB Hitachi Drive sitting here. Problem is, I'm getting the code 9 you all have been getting. This never happened with the Samsung drive. I've also noticed that I can really here the Hitachi drive spinning up over a period of about 3-5 seconds.

SO, I assume that this is too slow of a response for the Xbox. I've read about some of your current experiments with this mod. Was just wondering how things are going. I'm considering now to just buy a 750gb IDE Seagate drive instead of dealing with all of this.

That is, unless you guys have come up with some sort of solution.

Thanks to everyone for the input.
witnessmenow
QUOTE(run088 @ Oct 31 2008, 04:59 AM) *

In that it sits at the x2 5035 loading screen forever and after a long period of time if it does do anything else it will error out.


I'm running into a similar problem with a standard Splinter cell method softmod. Works fine with the standard MS dash. The green blob and X come up and then it just loads a blank screen. If you press eject at this stage the softmod dash loads up fine. I cant explain why this happens, im just happy it does! Maybe the same will work for you hopefully.


QUOTE(BigPotty @ Nov 13 2008, 11:50 PM) *

Hello Everyone.

Been very busy for the last few months.

Finally got around to getting my 3rd Samsung drive replaced. Samsung was such a pain in the ass to deal with! After a lot of run around, Newegg agreed to refund my money. Thanks again Newegg! No thanks goes to Samsung and your horrible quality control.

So now I have a nice new 1TB Hitachi Drive sitting here. Problem is, I'm getting the code 9 you all have been getting. This never happened with the Samsung drive. I've also noticed that I can really here the Hitachi drive spinning up over a period of about 3-5 seconds.

SO, I assume that this is too slow of a response for the Xbox. I've read about some of your current experiments with this mod. Was just wondering how things are going. I'm considering now to just buy a 750gb IDE Seagate drive instead of dealing with all of this.

That is, unless you guys have come up with some sort of solution.

Thanks to everyone for the input.


I'm using the Dealextreme adapter that has been linked to a few times and a Samsung spinpoint 1tb.

I've been using the power the hard drive first method

Things are going ok with my one. I thought I had a circuit designed to handle the delay (and i did except i hadnt fully integrated the xboxs power switch), but what i explained above your qoute has really put a dampner in that idea! I'd have to add another delay to eject the xbox, and then another delay to close the drive tray so I kinda gave up on the idea!

So for now I am just using a switch and I'm happy enough with that.

Turning on my xbox consists off:
Flicking the switch I added
After about 2-3 seconds pressing the power button
When its finished loading the green blob and X pressing the eject button

Turning off is as simple as flicking the switch i added

I have the TB partioned with a 460gb on a F drive and a G drive
when I'm FTP'n the xbox for some reason filezilla does not show this G drive
If i manually type "/g/" into the address bar when connected to the xbox it works as normal.

Other than that its working perfectly and Im quite happy with it. I have bought a few diffrent adapters to try out to see if they make any diffrence. I will post back and let you guys know if they do.
jinn
I have 5 different SATA to PATA/IDE adapters.
Tried one of them in my V1.0 TSOP flash with a ata100 or ata133 cable and all I got was was missing letters and garbage when i booted AID.
I changed the adapter and everything is working great now.
Tried the dame adapter but with the original xbox ide cable and now that adapter is working.
The only thing is it takes longer to boot and FTP seems a bit slow.
I also added some foam in the gap so the pins from the adapter wont touch the HDD.

razer1000
hi all,

same problems .... need your help, use a hitachi 1tb hdd equip sata-ide converter xbox version 1.0
and bios x2 4983.67

become following failures
7
13
9

is the failure the converter ???
jinn
4983.67 does not work you need x2 5035
razer1000
QUOTE(jinn @ Nov 17 2008, 02:41 PM) *

4983.67 does not work you need x2 5035


are you sure? then i have i big problem. i have only a aladin chip (SST49lf020)
i think this chip support only 256k files or bigger ?

i tryed allready with the 4983.67 and IND5003 bios

in both bios i can see the large HDD but no transfer posible ...
BigPotty
razer1000:
Your problems are probably NOT related to the your BIOS. If you need help getting the right BIOS though, then these might help:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/lofiversion/i...hp/t566417.html
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/lofiversion/i...hp/t365537.html


Ok everyone. I got my USB IDE and SATA adapter today. Came with it's own power supply too. Hooked up the power supply and for the first time the XBOX did not FRAG with the Hitachi drive.

A couple things I've noticed:
- Hooking up the external power supply turned on the light for the SATA-IDE adapter.
- The Hitachi hard drive did NOT spin up when I turned on the power supply but not the XBOX.

So this leads me to believe that this problem is not related to timing issues at all. Well at least not directly. Someone had suggested before that the current draw for these drives was to much for the Xbox. I think this is probably the real problem. I noticed that when I turn on my Xbox, the Hitachi drive still takes a while to spin up. The Xbox "waits" for it though.

My guess is that there is to much current draw when you first push the Xbox's power button. Sort of a surge? I'm only theorizing here as I don't know that much about circuitry.

So maybe our options here are either a low current hard drive or an upgraded power supply? Anyone have any comments?
razer1000
QUOTE(BigPotty @ Nov 17 2008, 11:22 PM) *

razer1000:
Your problems are probably NOT related to the your BIOS. If you need help getting the right BIOS though, then these might help:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/lofiversion/i...hp/t566417.html
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/lofiversion/i...hp/t365537.html


thx @BigPotty ,but i think 1tb is to big for the xbox.....
question what is better, a new IDE HDD or a smaller SATA HDD

IDE (500-750GB )
SATA (500-640GB )
Bomb Bloke
Capacity is not the problem. SATA is the problem. If you go with an IDE drive you should have no issues, but large IDE drives seem to be rare compared to large SATA drives.

1tb is what I'd personally consider to be the largest drive "worth" putting in an X-Box, but the real limit is 2tb.

But you were pretty vague with your description, at one stage you said "i can see the large HDD but no transfer posible", without giving any details on how you were attempting to transfer...
run088
The 1.5tb drive I have is still operating at 100% since I got a new adapter for it.I have noticed since I have bought so many different adapters because they are handy on pc's as well that a certain number of these devices are defective or go defective pretty quick.I have one that works at 75%.I have another that works 100% of the time I have been running both for quite some time and the results they give stay consistent.I have bought 2 that have been defective one that plugs directly in the port and one that is the exact mate of the ones I have that are already working.I sent one back that is like the working ones and I am getting a replacement.This one is for a pc I returned it because it was defective It never touched an xbox and was a lemon from the time I tore it out of the package and installed it in a pc.When I get it I will test the results on an xbox after I verify it works or not on a pc and report back to give us more insight at the least on this particular adapter model since I will have been able to test the results of 4 different adapters that are the same make and model with all other factors remaining the same but the individual adapter.
jinn
QUOTE(razer1000 @ Nov 17 2008, 10:07 AM) *

are you sure? then i have i big problem. i have only a aladin chip (SST49lf020)
i think this chip support only 256k files or bigger ?

i tryed allready with the 4983.67 and IND5003 bios

in both bios i can see the large HDD but no transfer posible ...


Flash your TSOP with the X2 5035 or get a DUOX2 chip.

Yes is your BIOS.
I know I have tested lots of BIOS the only one that works is X2 5035 and X3 BIOS.

If you need your TSOP flashed let me know.
run088
QUOTE(jinn @ Nov 19 2008, 02:45 AM) *

Flash your TSOP with the X2 5035 or get a DUOX2 chip.

Yes is your BIOS.
I know I have tested lots of BIOS the only one that works is X2 5035 and X3 BIOS.

If you need your TSOP flashed let me know.

Ind works to it will allow for use of custom partitions and it is a 256 size bios that is compatible with versions 1.0-1.5 you may need to use the included ini but maybe not.It is pretty much the same thing feature wise of the 5035 but more flexible because it works on versions 1.2-1.5 where as 5035 does not unless you have a modchip with a bank of 512 or bigger installed.The ini is a bit more confusing than the 5035 but the options are all there.

I am certain that ind will work as well as 5035 these are the bios I run.
onyx9966
I'VE READ ALL THE POSTS ON THIS SUBJECT AND HAVE NOT HAD LUCK INSTALLING 1TB HDD ON MY XBOX1.I USED THE INTIAL METHOD FROM VERY FIRST POST , FOLLOWED ALL THE DIRECTIONS . BUT AFTER FINALLY PREPPING THE HDD TO BE INSTALLED BACK INTO XBOX1 IT STARTS UP TO AN ERROR 09 SCREEN. IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS HAD THIS ISSUE AND IF SO WHAT DO YOY RECOMMEND TO FIX IT.


XBOX1
VOL 1.0
SAMSUNG 1TB HDD SATA HD103UJ
SATA TO IDE CONVERTER (FROM FIRST POST)
SOFTMOD(SPLINTER CELL EXPLOIT)


jinn
Don't use softmods.
Use the iND bios or the X2 5035 they have a load screen before the flubber animation loads giving time for the HDD to boot up and find the dash.
Also try to change the IDE cable.
I have installed 3 1TB so far with no problems after boot. Before boot it takes about 15 sec longer to load and FTP transfers seem slower.
BTW all 3 XBOX have the RAM upgraded don't know if it makes a difference or not.
run088
Ram upgrade does not make a difference I have 4 ram upgraded ones but I actually built the 1.5tb hdd in a normal plain jane tsop flashed xbox.I have had the 1tb drive in both as well with the same results across the board.The only thing that seems to matter on mine is the adapter used.Every other varible changed the results stay the same.

Thinking about it I would have to wonder about that samsung hdd.There have been so many people with that particular drive respond having problems.I can not speak on that drive because I dont own one.I can tell you my maxtor 1tb and my seagate 1.5tb work fine with the adapter I have described several times in this thread.
stogiesam88
QUOTE(run088 @ Nov 19 2008, 08:32 AM) *

The 1.5tb drive I have is still operating at 100% since I got a new adapter for it.I have noticed since I have bought so many different adapters because they are handy on pc's as well that a certain number of these devices are defective or go defective pretty quick.I have one that works at 75%.I have another that works 100% of the time I have been running both for quite some time and the results they give stay consistent.I have bought 2 that have been defective one that plugs directly in the port and one that is the exact mate of the ones I have that are already working.I sent one back that is like the working ones and I am getting a replacement.This one is for a pc I returned it because it was defective It never touched an xbox and was a lemon from the time I tore it out of the package and installed it in a pc.When I get it I will test the results on an xbox after I verify it works or not on a pc and report back to give us more insight at the least on this particular adapter model since I will have been able to test the results of 4 different adapters that are the same make and model with all other factors remaining the same but the individual adapter.

What adaptors are you using with 75% and 100% success?
daov2a
Hey Onxy, did you add in LBA48 BIOS support? 9 would suggest that the HDD parameters are not being reported correctly to the xbox and therefore it can't boot/can't find the .xbe file. The #9 seems fairly common actually on softmods with the 1TB upgrade from what I've seen in this forum. Most who've had issues seem to be using the exact softmod you describe (Splinter Cell). I got frustrated with it myself and decided to get a chip, which made everything work perfectly and was far easier to deal with. I was using the PBL on one xbox and the nDure hotswap softmod on another. Just got the chip, soldered it and blammo! everything worked!

Not sure what exactly your issue is but I'd bet it's something to do with LBA48.

In addition, it could be the other issues others are describing where the HDD is not powering up fast enough for the xbox's liking. I also had this issue even after the chip was installed, but it would not happen every time; maybe once out of five boots (20%). What I did to correct it as I posted earlier was to move the jumper to 1.5GB PHY. As posted previously, this didn't work for everyone but it did for me and I'm still up and running. In my own personal opinion, for the 1TB upgrade, a modchip is the best way to go. It makes things way easier to deal with and the HDD usually works better in the end. Of course, it can work with a softmod but you'll have far more headache as evidenced in this forum.
Bomb Bloke
Error 09 means the console never gets around to loading the softmod in the first place... Doesn't matter which you're using. Dunno why a softmodded box would be more likely to come up with one.

QUOTE(jinn @ Nov 20 2008, 06:04 PM) *
Use the iND bios or the X2 5035 they have a load screen before the flubber animation loads giving time for the HDD to boot up and find the dash.

These BIOS types attempt to access the HDD far earlier then others... Not later. This is due to the config files they use.
stogiesam88
Why is this topic saying "Sorry, some required files are missing, if you intended to view a topic, it's possible that it's been moved or deleted. Please go back and try again."??
gavo.145
What sata to ide adaptors can I use that will fit in the case without modding the case and if anyone nows if there are some sold with canadaian retailer that would be greatly apperiated thanks.
run088
I stumbled across a weird thread on another forum it was an interesting read by the way but it gave me an idea which may or may not work.It is a thread about hooking a dvd burner in an xbox.There was a conflict with the ide where a 220ohm adapter was added to pin one to force a no reset.This was only needed because of bugs at startup.The drive worked flawlessly after booting.Considering the mod was done on the ide to force a no reset it seems logical this might work on this mod to.Since the biggest issues users are having are related to startup.Here is the thread I am talking about the info related to this topic is 3 quarters of the way down but the whole article is an interesting read and a cool mod.I would not have thought possible until I read it and saw the guy responsible for the xbox fedora core is the one that did it.


http://legacy.not404.com/ReplacementXboxDVD
ninmario4life
Ok im thinking os send my xbox 1 to these guys http://www.modchipman.com/have-modchipman-...-xbox-p-34.html and have them do the following install services:Xecuter 3 CE,Xtender,XCM Crystal Clear case,Pro Switch,X3 Control Panel And Providing my own hard drive so i can have a ton of space in my xbox for backing up all my games i own.Now ive read the replys and it seems to be a hassel for a 1tb drive to work properly witch is what i wanted to upgrade to(i was going to send a sata to ide converter along with the drive).so should i stick to a ide 750gb hard drive?I was looking at the following 2 1tb drives i dont know if the model would make a diffrence or not but hopefully you guys can help me out.here are the links: http://store.westerndigital.com/store/wdus.../catid.13094900 http://store.westerndigital.com/store/wdus.../catid.13094900 . now i also have read in the replys that the sata to ide converts have been spotty and the preformance varies so maybe does anyone know what would the best converter to use with one of those drives?Now i dont know if anyone has found this yet but guess what i have found a ide 1tb drive yes you heard me correctly a IDE 1TB DRIVE!!!!!!!!!!!Seems total micro is the only company that makes these!If someone could maybe get this drive and test it out it would be great cuz maybe this will solve the headachs with the 1tb sata and converter isssues!so if someone could test it out in a xbox that would be great hopefully we can by pass all of the sata issues and this drive wont be a flop heres the link: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001BP99PU?smid=A...mp;linkCode=asn Let Me know how it goes cuz if this 1tb ide drive works and everything then i will just avoid the 1tb sata drives and send in this total micro drive to the site to upgrade my xbox for me.
ninmario4life
by the way the 1tb total micro ide hard drive model is 1000HDGI3I-TM dont confuse it with 1000HDGI3S-TM witch is the serial ata version.
karoshiga
Well, even with all the failure issues addressed in this thread, I thought I would give it a go anyhow. Funny how those are almost always famous last words biggrin.gif

I got the same WD drive with the same (Sabrent?) adapter from the first post in this thread. Hooked it all up in my secondary 1.1 version XBOX with a stock Samsung DVD, TSOP X2 5035 BIOS. Tried to boot AID 4.4, and it did boot fine. But when I made any selection on the menu as far as formatting/dash-apps install/etc, I get garbage instead of characters in the dialog boxes. If you already know what you are looking at beforehand though, you know what the processes are, so I just went ahead (especially since I had no other adapter to test with).

(Have to add also that Slayers would boot/load, but ran hella slow on that box)

The HDD seems to format fine, and I can write to it with the install disc just fine. Booting anything after the install however is another story. In that particular XBOX, the only time I was able to boot from HDD (which was ONCE, and only after using the SLAYERS disc, because the AID install would not boot from HDD) it went into EVOX, even though I had setup for XBMC as the default, and I had that setup in the 5035 config file as well. Now mind you, this same configuration for the bios boots my 2 250GB WD IDE drives just fine, and with all the color changes and boot options with no garbage from AID. I tried another IDE cable that works with any other XBOX HDD I have, and it wouldn't even boot, just a flashing red ring.

So, I put the drive/adapter combo into my other XBOX, which is also a 1.1, TSOP with 5035, and a modded LG DVD. Loaded the AID disc again. It went straight up into the bios config (which is color/no flubber changed) and boom, loaded right up. Still the same garbage in the dialog boxes though. So I tried my Slayers disc, and it booted flawlessly and ran as it is supposed to. As with the other box, I can format, copy the needed files, etc. But once the disc is out and the HDD is on its own, same problems.

Also, the only way I was able to run XBPartitioner 1.1 was straight from AID disc. After I did that, and partitioned the extra space in half for F and G, it shows up on any install disc I have in the drive, and also in FTP from the PC.

I tried formatting and copying over my C and E drives via FTP (which are all unlocked, I have never had a need for a locked drive) from any of my given XBOX HDDs, and afterward I could not get any boot at all from HDD. Never had that problem with any IDE drive I have ever used.

If I try to launch any application (be XBMC, DVDx, ConfigMagic, whatever from the HDD (when it does boot into EVOX), it just cycles back into the X2 Config screen, and then right back to EVOX.

I have a few more adapters coming next week, so I will play around with that and get back with some new info. (I also have 2 500GB IDE drives coming as well, and the 1TB WD and adapter were a Christmas present... if it doesn't pan out, I'll just throw the drive into a PC that needs it.) But I would like to get this thing off the ground someday.

Just throwing out my experience so far, useless as it may be. Maybe it can be of some help though, or at least a deterrent laugh.gif

And, no, I am not going to throw out hella cash on that supposed 'Total Micro 1TB IDE drive'. I've not heard anything about it other than in this thread... and if you (or anyone else with money to burn) are so willing, then try it out and tell us your story afterward.
karoshiga
Got the two new adapters in today, same ones as 'run088' said worked for him http://cgi.ebay.com/PATA-IDE-TO-Serial-ATA...1713.m153.l1262

Opened up one and plugged everything up, powered on the XBOX... the XECUTER2 CONFIG LIVE LOADING screen stayed up for a little longer than before, into my color changed bios screen, then BAM, right into XBMC. YES! Even with doing the previous install on the other adapter that showed garbage on the AID dialog boxes (which doesn't happen at all with the new adapter).

Booted the box at least a dozen times after that to see if it would freeze or give an error screen, but so far it's all good.

So now I am transferring my files to the F: drive, we'll see what happens with all that later.

Thanks to all you guys for the info!
shloader
Told a guy I've known for years that I could mod him a box and he asked me if he needed a chip. Nah... I got spares plus I usually just do softmods (and yes, I store their epprom backups redundantly on a few flash drives). So then he asks "can I do a 1TB or 1.5TB". Oh sure what with XBpartitioner's last update. I've been thinking the new three platter WD10EADS would be a perfect fit on paper. He handed me a 1.6 but things didn't go so smooth. The WD10EADS wouldn't lock. Had a 500GB Seagate SATA sittin' empty so I tested the adapter on it, hdlock handled it just fine. WD10EADS with a Sabrient adapter just plain won't lock. So out of courtesy he gets my spare unused 1.1 board with a Xecuter 2.3B Lite I had sitting spare with an EvoM8 bios. All I'm getting is an error 13. Put the TB drive in my own box with a Xenium ICE. Loaded X5035 and still no dice, E13. Getting into the drive with the Xenium OS is hit and miss.

My PC on the other hand has no issues other than failing to lock.

Even though the WD10EADS seems like a good concept, I mean you can't say they suck too much power. I think Seagate 1.5TB is the better option running $129 on newegg plus the Firmware update brings their power needs in line better for the Xbox and I think I'd trust them to lock (should you need them too).

Ordered three of those adapters discussed here on ebay. They look all around handy and look no where near as cheap as those POS Sabrients. LOOK like they'll have the same chipset on them but who knows. If this fails I trade him my 750GB Seagate and compensate him the difference or something.

http://cgi.ebay.com/PATA-IDE-TO-Serial-ATA...1713.m153.l1262

This may turn out to be the first time I've ever failed to mod a box. And it's for a Gamestop manager... oh the shame. sad.gif
karoshiga
^ Like I said, that particular adapter is the only one that worked for me. As far as modding though, I don't do soft mods, never have. So, I have no idea if it will work in that arena.

The WD10EACS drive is working flawlessly for me, and it's almost packed to capacity. It also runs very cool and very quiet.
momomo
OK these 2TB Bad Boys are out very soon on Retail.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/27/western...nches-gets-pre/

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Which SATA 2 IDE convertor is mostlikely to work with one of these.

Imagine 2TB of MEdia!!!
guilmar
Guys... i have a Samsung Spinpoint 200GB sata II, so I bougth an adapter to use this HDD.
I jumped the hdd to sata 1 mode (1,5g), plug all the cables and turn on the console, BUT, appear the service error 07.
Anyone can help me with this thing?!?!?! What is the error 07?!?!? What can I do to fix it!?!?!
I saw this error when i installed a 80GB IDE drive and didn't ajust the jumper to CABLE SELECT. My sata adaptar doesn't have any jumper.... could it is the problem?!?!?

Tnx a lot!!
guilmar
just to keep you informed, my xbox is 1.1 (identified by XBMC), and have an alladin chipmod...
Tnx
Bomb Bloke
Error 07, in most cases, points to a dead hard drive.

However, because SATA drives tend not to be compatible with X-Boxes, odds are that's what it really means. Try plugging the adapter/drive into a PC and see what that makes of it, that's always a good start.
run088
The company I have recommended for the adapter has switched designs.I am trying to get a line on the old design and will report back here when I have found more info but until then the adapters that partsdomauction are currently selling on ebay are not going to work.I have 4 here now that are unfunctional on the xbox.The company has agreed to look into the matter for me but I have not heard back yet.There is an appearance difference between the 2 adapters.I will post pics if I can run into a camera.
karoshiga
run088, is this the one you previously purchased? These are pics of the adapter I got from partsdomauction a couple weeks ago. It works well with the WD-10EACS drive I bought.

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run088
That one does not work for me that is the new one.I have 4 all duds.The ones I was getting from that company with high success rate had all the components on the ide side there was only solder points on the sata side.
karoshiga
Interesting... I bought 2 of those adapters like in my pics, and they both work flawlessly. I know the adapter you are talking about though, it is pictured on the packaging (and also on the partsdomauction page). I was actually worried when I received mine because it didn't look like the picture, but like I said they both perform 100% with the WD HDD.
guilmar
Hum... here in Brazil is very hard to find this adapters... I only find one that doesnt work... =/
cb3dard
I've been following this thread for some time and thought I would share my success story. After trying many different SATA adapters in my xbox v.1.6 with a Seagate 1TB HD, I've finally found one that works. It's the one recommended by witnessmenow in a previous post. This is the adapter I used:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12537

I tried four other adapters before trying this one. I ordered 2 of them and they both work flawlessly every time, just as if it were IDE. No lag time, no freezing on start. So if you're as frustrated as I once was, give this adapter a try before you decide to quit.
Bomb Bloke
Sells worldwide, less then $10AU with no shipping costs/account signup...

And my 750gb SATA still sitting there unused...

*buys*
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