First, let me say that I don't mean anything personally towards anyone I'm quoting here and the answers.... but geez. The posts in here since I've been away are really making me feel sad for the state of decay of the human race and the inability for a rational, thinking mind to overcome mindless self indulgence and the need for instant gratification.
4 years in the making, and after only 3 days there are more complaints than I thought I'd see in 3 years after release........
I've been out of town for a few days.... the first time I've taken any personal time for more than 4 hours at a time away from my abode since Christmas. So please... allow me now this opportunity to respond to the comments in this thread whlie I've been gone. (I won't even read the comments in the "Release" thread below since I've just about reached my pissed-off quota for the day).
Again.... I'll say that I don't mean anything personally towards anyone here. This was a collective effort of stupidity by many individuals and I'm sure that the ones who have spoken out are just a very small minority of the otherwise voiceless masses out there who are too impatient and/or stupid to read instructions.
NOTE: If you've gotten the Xtras to work without a hitch by reading the instructions and understanding them, give yourself a pat on the back and do yourself a favor and just save 10 minutes of your life by skipping the rest of this post. That is, unless you find this kind of shit as funny as I do.
[quote name='ThE MaSTeR 3' date='Apr 10 2010, 03:28 PM' post='4673105']
am I missing something? I found the xtras but no madmab emulators. Im not going to start seeding till I can get the emulators set up. I know you said you could just use xports but that takes away all features lol
If people ever bothered to read torrent information, questions like these have already been answered. This is what I say to anyone who has killed their ratio with these torrents on the release site too.
READ THE TORRENT INFORMATION AND YOU WOULD KNOW THAT MADMAB IS NOT READY AND THESE WERE PUT OUT EARLY BY ME SO PEOPLE COULD GET A HEAD START ON THE THE 150GB+ THAT WILL BE RELEASED!!!!!
[quote name='losgar' date='Apr 10 2010, 06:34 PM' post='4673171']
Quick question-- Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but the artwork torrents for NES, SNES, Genesis, and Gameboy are all downloading into the same artwork folder. Is this the way it should be? It looks like it's shuffling them all together on me. I started to download all four, checked my seedbox when they were about 30% done, and noticed there was only one Artwork folder. In that folder, there were one of each of the normal artwork folders--- like 3D artwork-- and in that folder it looked like a big mix of those four systems 3D artwork, alphabetized by name...
[quote name='flux2k' date='Apr 10 2010, 09:35 PM' post='4673228']
Yeah, I had the same problem - luckily I stopped it before any damage was done. Depending on your torrent client you can specify a download folder for each torrent instead of automatically using your default folder. Unfortunately for me, I use Deluge (Ubuntu) which doesn't allow this afaik. I heard that some people are able to rename the folder while torrenting without any side-effect - but I have not tried this yet.
[quote name='dballs442' date='Apr 12 2010, 01:43 AM' post='4673560']
yea all these artwork folders being named the same thing is being a pain. i understand it but still.
dont get me wrong i am SOOOOOOOOOOO appreciative of whats going on but wish each artwork folder had "SystemName" be for it. like "NES Artwork"
[quote name='Kikutaro' date='Apr 12 2010, 04:14 AM' post='4673595']
I almost had this problem with artwork being mixed also. [/quote]
Again.... If instructions were followed about where to put MU downloads, there is no problem with the Artwork torrents for the 4 systems that needed to be split up cause anyone any problems. If you experienced any problems because of this, it is due to user error, carelessness, skipping the MU directions, or any and/or all of the above.
There is NO NEED to rename any torrents. If you took the time to point the torrent to the specific "Media\SYSTEM\Artwork" folder than you can have all six "Artwork" torrents running in the torrent program at the same time. I know this for a fact, because I'm looking at all 6 of them this very second in my own uTorrent program. (All of this is in the instructions and torrent description in the first place, so these questions and incorrect solutions is making me wonder how many people are just doing the whole thing wrong)
That being said, it is unfortunate that all of the Artwork torrents for NES, SNES, Genesis and GBA are named only "Artwork", but this is not my fault. In fact, I re-torrented the first one I did because I thought I messed up the upload somehow when it was only named "Artwork". It wasn't me though. The Torrents that I uploaded for these systems were called "NESArtwork1", "NESArtwork2", "GBAARtwork1", "GBAArtwork2", "GENESISArtwork" & "SNESArtwork". When the torrent site spit them back out for the end user, for whatever reason, it named them ALL simply "Artwork" (Probably because that's the name of the folder being torrented, is my guess).
Again...... If you had read the instructions before starting the torrent, you wouldn't have had any problems with this.
My intent was to make this all so easy that even a caveman could do it, but the Torrent site screwed that all up because their core code is unable to handle the amount of files in 4 of the Xtras collections. Nothing I can do about that. Hopefully we see some upgrades on that front before other people release 2.0 in the future. In the mean time, I don't think its' too much to ask that people take 10 minutes to read the torrent descriptions and instructions before downloading all of this stuff. After all, it took me about 4 years to compile all of this.
[quote name='Kikutaro' date='Apr 12 2010, 04:14 AM' post='4673595']
Ive noticed theirs quite a few games missing for each system and was wondering if their is a spreadsheet or is their anyway someone involved could list games not covered in the Xtras?
I SERIOUSLY doubt that there are ANY games missing for any systems, let alone quite a few for each system. (Unless you're talking about EU or JP versions of games that are included by a different name for the US version, since these sets are primarily a US collection with EU and JP only added if there is no US version or the alternate is somehow superior to the US version).
And yes, there are compatibility lists all over the place with the names of the games. This thread itself is called "RessurectionXtras and Compatibility Lists", which I thought did a pretty good job of getting the point across that yes, there are detailed compatibility lists to be found. THEY'RE ALL OVER THE FIRST 3 POSTS OF THIS THREAD. They're also included with every torrent, right at the top of the torrent, for every torrent, telling you to "Click on button above to see a full list of what is available with this torrent!". The fact that you don't know where compatibility lists are by now, given the fact that this is the VERY FIRST sentence on EVERY SINGLE torrent, makes me sure that you didn't bother to read anything else that I took the time to write about getting this stuff set up properly.
[quote name='Likklebaer' date='Apr 12 2010, 05:44 AM' post='4673613']
I have to say I'm quite confused about the way these have been released. I thought the whole idea was you'd wait for madmab's updated emulators and then release everything together so people can just transfer them straight to their Xboxes with minimum fuss and setup. Now it seems like not only do people have to download and install the emulators separately, but you didn't even wait for them to be available so nobody who wants to download these now can even make full use of them.
I really hope you didn't rush these out just to prove some pathetic point to BP over at 1emu.
I'm sure you are Likkle. I'm sure that anybody who DIDN'T READ THE INSTRUCTIONS is very confused at how this was all released. I'm sure all of the people who have been pestering Madmab for the links to Public Emus (which have not been released yet) are completely clueless because they can't read, or can't be bothered to take 10 minutes out of their lives to do so.
Emus are separate from Media with the Official Xtras releases and will always be done so. To have your Media stuff inside each emu is silly. For one, it makes porting any of this stuff to other systems in the future a much more difficult task than it should be. Secondly, if the emus were released with the Xtras torrents themelves, the entire torrent (or up to 3 for the large systems) would need to be re-released everytime that Madmab & Gilles (or future programmers) made updates to the emus. Why would any intelligent person set the Emu/Media folders up in a way where a tiny 3kb code change would require reseeding an 8GB+ torrent?
I put these out early so people could get a head start on the MEDIA folder before the emus themselves were released. I also did it because I have a life to get back to, and I've really been enjoying my last 3 days away from the scene very much. The sooner I get this all in as many other hands that I can, the sooner I can purge this entire project from my mind and begin to focus on things that will actually improve my quality of life and put a few bucks in my pocket.
BP spurred it for sure, but in the end I thanked him for doing so. On my end, 100% of this stuff was already complete for 95% of the project. Why not start getting it out now? It feels like a giant boulder is being lifted off of my shoulders now that about 30 people who can actually follow instructions have most of what I have already.
If people can't take the time to read my torrent introductions that explain every gripe I've seen in this thread in the last 3 days, I can't feel any pity for them. If reading for 10 minutes is too much work for you, than sorry, you don't deserve to have the Xtras on your XBox. If you read it and you're just not patient enough to wait for Madmab's public release, I'm sorry, the Xtras are not for you either and you should just move along.
[quote name='ThE MaSTeR 3' date='Apr 12 2010, 11:24 AM' post='4673744']
oops poor choice of words. I meant not going to bother downloading the xtras until the emulators are released. Dont worry Ill be doing my part and seeding once I do DL the xtras. Im just not going to start DL anything until I can set everything up.
Well this is just foolish, since the MEDIA folder (The Xtras) is not attached to the EMULATOR folder in any way except for pointing the emus to the MEDIA folder internally. You've got about 50GB to download now, and when I finally get it all up with my slow as 60KB upload, you'll have anywhere from 150GB to about 320GB if I decide to (and am able) to include SegaCD and PSX games.
If you want to wait till the Madmab emus come out to start downloading and seeding, be my guest. Just don't complain when they take a week or more depending on your connection to download.
[quote name='losgar' date='Apr 12 2010, 11:26 AM' post='4673745']
I'm having a ball just going through the files (before they are on my xbox) and seeing the amazing 3D artwork, and anticipating what the new roms that I haven't tried and commercials/videos are going to be like. I have to say, one of my favorites parts is all the organization involved in this-- it'll make playing these roms so much more enjoyable. Very excited to try them with the Madmab's new emulators-- I'm just going to wait until they are done before I try them with one of the older versions of the emu's.
Do the Mame/CoinOps, TG16, PSX, and Scumm Emu's have a release date? Most curious about the Mame at this point!
Thanks losgar.... I was beginning to think that the XBScene was full of ingrates (besides the people who have made personal sacrifices of their time to help out).
No exact release date on the others as they're still being staged. I know that once I started putting the Xtras torrents out they all came quick (18 systems in 3 days), but on top of all the time it took to put these together, there was about 2 months of huge coordination between about 10-12 of us getting everything staged and put on MU for VERY QUICK distribution. Nobody has EVER done what we have done here in terms of getting this stuff into as many hands as possible in record time using MU links to 100% of the things within the torrent. I never would have been able to do it without the help of all my friends here who everyone should be thankful for their own contribution of time.
All I can say is that PSX for sure will be the last to go. There is 175GB+ of games included and I won't start seeding any of that until I'm sure that I'm absolutely finished with everything else that needs to go up and I won't be interrupting my pathetic 60KB/s upload putting up stuff that will probably take me 3 months to seed on my own.
[quote name='Kikutaro' date='Apr 13 2010, 12:06 AM' post='4674076']
Oh that's not to bad..
The thing that's going to be a problem imo is the people who just seen the Xtras on UG and was like sweet without knowing nothing about the project. You're going to have people trying to use their own named romsets and all types of going on's because their is some what a lack of information.
In no way am i talking bad about the xtras in any of my post's, i am much appriciative.
I'm sure there will be problems. Again, I can't be held responsible for people not reading the torrent and the instructions. If they do, there should be no problems. I've gone this far down the line and I have still not seen a question that wasn't already answered in these 2 places. (Aside from "when are MAME, Scummvmx, PSX, TGCD going to be released).
[quote name='cbagy' date='Apr 13 2010, 12:47 AM' post='4674082']
You are correct, this and many other scenarios will no doubt crop up.
A bit of research and help from knowledgable users will help ease anyone's problems.
We are still in the early stages here so information has to filter down the line so to speak.
Im sure with a little time the knowledge will become common place.
Famous last words, lol.
Yeah.... what Cbagy said.
That being said Cbagy.... please do not give instructions to mess up the file structure in this particular thread or on the Torrents themselves. There are many negative implications to what you are suggesting in post 2590 in this thread, even if you yourself are not aware of them.
Everyone should NOT be moving ANY folders or files from their specific place that is made perfectly clear by reading the instructions. Doing so could break the torrent seed or cause headaches for you in the future if this stuff gets upgraded to another, better, system in the future.
I can GUARANTY that anyone who follows that advice and "goes rogue" will have a bitch of a time upgrading any of this if an Rx 2.0 comes out in the future.
The Media stuff belongs in the MEDIA folder. Nowhere else.
It can be done as you say cbagy, but you're causing yourself future problems and you're not helping at all with the future of this project if you insist upon doing it. I know that you rename everything too, which is a whole different monster... but that's your own prerogative as long as you're not suggesting that other people do the same.
Also, there is no reason to have the Emulators and Media in separate partitions. I have a 500GB box. Media is in "F:\Media\SYSTEM\XXXXXX" and Emulators are in "F:\Emulators\XXXXXX". If you have your emulators on the E:\ drive and the Media on the F:\ Drive, and it is causing slowdown issues for you, do yourself a favor now and make sure that you put both on the F:\ Drive.
@ Pulsemasta.... Hehe... Thanks for making me laugh man. I just read a way too much aggravating shit in most of the previous posts and spent way too much time repeating myself a BILLION times in this thread hoping that maybe the point will get across if I say it on repeat.