madmab
Sep 14 2008, 01:41 PM
Trying to think of an adequate way to explain this. It has to do with the odd way the emu handles multiple button/stick mappings and the emulated machine interprets it.
Basically trying to map diagonals on the analog stick does not work very well unless you happen to be mapping those values to emulated stick inputs. I've always found that I have to limit the analog to the four cardinal directions.
ressurectionx
Sep 14 2008, 01:51 PM
I figured that much. No way of fixing it, huh?
Got about 100 of the games fixed as far as controls go. Feel free to look at the list for the fixes. I'll upload the saves to megaupload when they're done though, so don't bother programming them yourself.
Later,
~Rx
madmab
Sep 14 2008, 04:12 PM
QUOTE(ressurectionx @ Sep 14 2008, 09:27 AM)

I figured that much. No way of fixing it, huh?
Believe me I wish I could fix the issue but it ultimately is determined by how the original hardware functions.
wrestlefever
Sep 14 2008, 04:48 PM
First of all, thanks to everyone who worked on the ZsnexBox 3.5 Project. I successfully used FTP to transfer the items on my XBOX.
I have one question though, which is probably very simple. I know that I need to zip the .SMC files before they run correctly in the ROMCENTER Program. If I have a bunch of single files I need to zip, can I use WINZIP 12 and zip them as a group or do I need to zip them individually?
In addition to this, I found that the Marvel Game shows the previews without even running it though RomCenter (which is good as I believe the Cyclic Redundunary Check may be the same as the in the dat file which is provided on the 1st page of this post). However, I dont think any other previews will show until I run the zip files and match the names in the RomCenter Program.
Retroplay
Sep 14 2008, 05:05 PM
QUOTE(ressurectionx @ Sep 14 2008, 10:29 AM)

Thanks retroplay. I'll try to get around to providing a fixed datfile soon.
No problen, people using your dat files of course needs to check their romset with NSRT too before rebuilding with your dat.
wrestlefever
Sep 14 2008, 06:59 PM
QUOTE(wrestlefever @ Sep 14 2008, 05:24 PM)

First of all, thanks to everyone who worked on the ZsnexBox 3.5 Project. I successfully used FTP to transfer the items on my XBOX.
Please delete my previous posts.
I dont mean to spam. It looks lik I everything under control. The tutorial is great
Thanks and let me know if I can help with some previews in the future
ressurectionx
Sep 14 2008, 09:26 PM
I didn't think you were spamming wrestlefever. I use winrar to make the zips, actually. And I just use regular compression since any tighter compression a lot of times makes the rom not work for me. There's an option within winrar that allows you to zip up all of your roms individually. I believe it's on the 3rd tab in the options.
Hey madmab,
MAME has a very similar problem in some games that I've told it to do this through the source (Inferno comes to mind). What a bitch man. Seems like such a simple problem. At least not too many games are affected by it... just the one I mentioned in the previous post. I don't think there is a way to play that game good then unfortunately. Too many directions to shoot and no real good way to do it otherwise.
~Rx
run088
Sep 17 2008, 08:38 PM
I am very dissappointed in you after I been reading around the sites threads in the last couple months.This site is about sharing not extorting.I am equally dissappointed in the mods as well that allowed this to be pinned with such demands.
And if you ever wanted those features that your extorting for you are going the wrong way.In my mind anyone is a bitch that does it for you.And I lose respect for them as a person if they do.
I like the concept of having a sole set of datas that would work for everyone but the video extortion is uncalled for.Did the pioneers of the screenshots extort the scene to release them?Did xport extort the scene to release his emulators?I can go on for days.
With that being said I have backups of most of the repositorys stuff and I dont care to make it availible to everyone if someone tells me how to and the original authors of the work dont care.
I still love you but I got to say something if no one else does.I dont think it does the scene's image any justice and if this is acceptible behavior I dont know that I want to continue being a member.If you want to share then share if you want to extort do it on another web site.I believe if the mods ran a poll on what I just said then everyone would agree but your minions doing your bidding for you under force.To make matters worse your asking for something that may or maynot be able to be done.If you knew for a fact it could be done then why isn't it?If you say znes I will say apples and oranges.
ressurectionx
Sep 18 2008, 01:52 AM
Go ahead and leave then. I'm just doing what it takes to get things done, and it's working. It's not extortion.
If I hadn't renamed and tested about 10,000 roms for 12 different systems, you might have a point.
If I hadn't made boxart/cart/screenshots previews for a majority of those said 10,000 roms that work perfect for the emus by just plugging them right in, you might have a point.
If I hadn't labored at the compatibility lists, the testing of all the games or any notes of my fixes, you might have a point.
If I hadn't taken the 4 or so hours it took to just put this thread together, you might have a point.
I've put in over 2,000 hours of my life into my XBox, and you're damn right I'm going to get something in return for my time. And this will be the only time I justify what I'm doing.
Anybody who has actually helped me (meaning pretty much everyone but you so far) hasn't raised a single complaint about this and has done some excellent work. Where's your input?
The way I see it, you're acting like a little baby who isn't getting his way. Either show some initiative on your part, or shut your mouth and show some patience and respect. I certainly didn't put all this together to be spoken to by an ungreatful man-child.
Regards everyone. Sorry this had to come down, but it was bound to happen sooner or later.
~Rx
EDITED TO ADD: I don't like being like that man. You just got under my skin with that post is all. I'm willing to concede to you that I'm using what I have as leverage. The way I look at it though, this wouldn't be available to anyone if I didn't step up and do it.
Don't you think that sometimes I have reservations about sharing my entire work of the last 2 1/2 years with others who will have done nothing to get it? I've finally decided to let all of my work be released to everyone because there are far better things in life to enjoy than holing yourself up for hours a day and work on this. Hopefully, some other people won't have to put themselves through it when I release it.
So what? I don't want to make videos myself. It's not as if I'm not devoting as much time to this per week as I do my Paying job.
The way I see it, with how the scene could look a year from now, I think the videos are a small price to ask. And if I gave you all the videos that I've worked on now without getting the complete set first, I don't believe that you would stick around to see it out. Not knocking you at all, because I know me and that's what I would do if I wasn't so vested in the project like I am now. (Look around you, you're in good company. How many full sets of anything do you see?)
Hope you don't go, and I hope you keep contributing. I will put your contribution up in the next few days. Thanks for the work prepping the XPORT snes emu for when the update is made for it. It's nice that people won't have to do the artwork from scratch, or convert the ZSnesxbox artwork like you already did for everyone.
No hard feelings. I got them out of my system now.
Later,
~Rx
madmab
Sep 18 2008, 03:00 AM
run088
Sep 18 2008, 03:07 AM
I dont need anything you have so what do I need.I just call it like I see it.And it was something that needed to be said I am not mad at you but am dissappointed in your actions.I say they are a bunch of bitches for helping you when you ask that way it is apparent that they have no backbone or spine.If anyone has a problem with it I will give out my address and you can come get some if you want to but I figure noone will ask judging a book by its cover I would say they are cowards and need to stand up for themselves
I will say again I like you alot but this is just plain wrong and you know it.I know I am not the only one who thinks this way just the only one that has the balls to say it.
Edit
To each his own I just thought it was a little out of charater for you to have the demands you have that is not the impression you have ever given me before you always have been one of my favorite people here and this has not changed anything.And I have a policy I broke by speaking up one thing I learned in 5 years worth of prison.You cant help the people that wont help themselves.It is apparent that you are the wolf and they are the sheep.Thats the way of the world.I will still link you my rework for xports super nintendo I want to havew this project but anything I do must be available to everyone no strings attached.Everything I can do I owe to the site anything I will do in the future I owe to the site.And anything I do will be repayment for the knowledge I picked up here.My knowledge belongs to the scene.
ressurectionx
Sep 18 2008, 03:11 AM
I'm not even reading that post because it was written before I updated mine and just skimming it is pissing me off again.
Go ahead and poll the thread.
If you all want me to leave, I'll pack up and go. I thought something good was happening here.
~Rx
run088
Sep 18 2008, 03:34 AM
I was in my feeliings the same way that you were and did not catch your edit until mine posted.So now mine is edited.I like you and I dont want to argue I appreciate what your trying to do but I dissagree with your method.I did not lose respect for you but I did lose respect for the people who are following your lead.And encourage them to grow a set of nuts and be a man dont let anyone bully you.And if I didnt say anything I could never link my stuff to you because it would make me the same level as the rest of them.Now that its said and I can put myself in a different class of people.But I still cant get it uploaded right mega upload freezes up everytime the best Ive got it to is 14%.This is the first thing I have ever uploaded so I dont know if I am doing it right.If worse comes to worse I will put it on My Space and let someone grab it and upload it properly from there.I did take your advice but I still am freezing after 3 days of trying.
ressurectionx
Sep 18 2008, 04:05 AM
I have all the world of respect for people contributing to this project. I think you and I just have a different view on things. I've never got the impression that anyone felt I was bullying them. The only argument I've gotten in here at all through the project is with you speaking on everyone elses behalf. If you want to classify yourself as above the people who have created 50 or hundreds of videos, or the people still coding, or the people making these awesome skins, please feel completely free to. I think you're in the minority there though.
I look forward to getting your screen alterations so people can use them with XPORTs emu too. But don't kid yourself when you say this isn't tough work and ask "what have you done?". What I've done is spent a majority of my free time on this project for the last two years and lost touch with a lot of people I used to hang out with all the time. I obsess over this and I've put a lot of my life on hold to see it through.
When I start sitting on my ass barking orders and doing nothing, then we'll talk. But as it is now, I'm completing the control/sound configurations for Colecovision today and will upload them so madmab can have his games working perfectly on startup. This was nearly 6 hours of work so far and I'm only 2/3rds the way done. I don't even play Colecovision. I had an Atari 5200 and 7800 with my bros growing up. Even then, my brother never plays atari. He's all about Nintendo and higher.
Just another thing I've done for somebody else that I could have just let them spend 10 hours doing themselves.
I take care of people who take care of me. Maybe you need to read more posts before throwing judgement around where it's not due.
Now please, unless you have something nice to say, keep this thread on topic. It's been derailed enough, and you're making me want to shut down the project. I didn't do all this work to be talked to like that.
~Rx
EDITED TO ADD: I just read this:
Edit
To each his own I just thought it was a little out of charater for you to have the demands you have that is not the impression you have ever given me before you always have been one of my favorite people here and this has not changed anything.And I have a policy I broke by speaking up one thing I learned in 5 years worth of prison.You cant help the people that wont help themselves.It is apparent that you are the wolf and they are the sheep.Thats the way of the world.I will still link you my rework for xports super nintendo I want to havew this project but anything I do must be available to everyone no strings attached.Everything I can do I owe to the site anything I will do in the future I owe to the site.And anything I do will be repayment for the knowledge I picked up here.My knowledge belongs to the scene.
I don't have 5 years in prison, so it's hard for me to empathize with your point of view here. I'd like to think of myself more as a shepherd than a wolf though. My intention is not to slave drive anybody here, and I think if they thought I was doing that, they would tell me to :censored: off. Nobody's told me that.
Sure, I've got a headstrong way about doing things, but there are great things happening that wouldn't have happened if nobody stepped up and started putting the pieces together. All I'm doing is suggesting the direction of things. This is no sweat shop. I'm not paying anyone anything. I'm not making any money here.
Bottom line is, be a part of the project or don't. I'm certainly not changing my policy on account of you, so you can either help out, or you can wait until everything is done. Doesn't effect me either way. And if nobody wants to help out, then I will recriprocate that notion.
~Rx
run088
Sep 18 2008, 04:36 AM
I just want to know what your going to do if xports emulators cant play the videos?It seems it maybe a waste of work and time.And until it is able to happen it is a worthless cause.Dont be under the impression because znes does it that it is possible on everything else.
here is an example of what my point is
Would you go buy a pair of tires for a car you dont have and only are thinking of buying?
Or due you buy the car first then worry about the tires?
Now that you have the tires for the car that you dont own.You go to buy the car and find out it is totaled.So there is no car.Now if thats what happens what are you going to do with the set of tires you dont need.It is unwise to put all your eggs in one basket.And it is unfair to madmab to put him under the gun with the pressure to do it.And he did not need the incentive of the screenshots he is one of the former members of the repository he has always helped me out when I asked and I believe he would not be any different to anyone else.But if you wanted to show him some love I believe the way to his heart is the 5200 not the colecovision.I believe the colecovision is for us "the scene".The 5200 was his 1st project and I am betting there was a reason or method behind it.Food for thought on the proper way to work people using people skills is all I am saying.
competes2win
Sep 18 2008, 04:58 AM
umm I just read the last few posts and am not sure what exactly just happened... perhaps some PM's went down? From what I understand is that run088 doesn't like the fact that Rx is requesting that people upload videos for his "project"?
It's Ironic because about 2 weeks ago I typed out about a 10paragraph long post about why I disagreed with people like Rx and Sotu saying things like "I've put in over 2,000 hours of my life into my XBox, and you're damn right I'm going to get something in return for my time." After I re-read what I wrote though I felt that it was better left unsaid and therefore did not post it.
However, now that I see run088's views on what I think is to be a similar matter... again, correct me if I'm wrong about what it was he was referring to, his initial post seemed to come from left field and perhaps there were some underlying tension.
Anyways my two cents... very briefly. My opinion is that this scene is entirely open source and free and has been built by the selfless contributions of many. If you want to contribute then contribute... what Rx is trying to do is great, the icons and contributions that Sotu have made are great... but don't feed us the garbage that you're not going to make your work available if you don't get support. Make it available or hold it to yourself, it's entirely your call. But make a decision one way or the other, and don't make any conditions. Fact of the matter is, the majority of people are not going to contribute, they will take what has been given without giving anything in return, that's just how it is going to be. If your a "contributer" and don't like this than don't make your work public, in my view it's as simple as that...
It should be noted also that this "free choice" concept applies to the "lesser contributers" as well. If Rx requests that people help out and make some videos than they have the choice to either do so or not. If they choose to do so it is most likely because they support the progress and the direction the project is advancing in and therefore would like to contribute. If Run088 is implying what I think he is implying by calling everyone else "spineless" and saying that we should "grow a pair" I think he should seriously reconsider those sentiments... People who choose to meet the requests of Rx do so of their own free will. and most definitley would not look favorably upon Run088 implying that they are spineless, and that they have somehow lost his respect.
I for one respect most everyone on these forums. I feel that all contributions are great and add to the already great scene. However, I do not like how some people feel that they are owed something in return for their work. After working hard at something, it may almost be a natural feeling but people should realize that this is all open source stuff, people will contribute if they have the time and the motivation, but not because someone irks them along.
Not that I'm old or super experienced or anything, but as my time on these forums has evolved I have taken a back seat. I made a couple of skin mods earlier... and I think some people might have even used them at one point lol... but now, for the most part, I just help people who ask intelligent questions. I feel that I am still contributing in someway and that I am part of the scene. However I do wish more people would just take things for what they're worth and not expect so much in return.
QUOTE(run088 @ Sep 18 2008, 12:12 AM)

I just want to know what your going to do if xports emulators cant play the videos?It seems it maybe a waste of work and time.And until it is able to happen it is a worthless cause.Dont be under the impression because znes does it that it is possible on everything else.
here is an example of what my point is
Would you go buy a pair of tires for a car you dont have and only are thinking of buying?
Or due you buy the car first then worry about the tires?
Now that you have the tires for the car that you dont own.You go to buy the car and find out it is totaled.So there is no car.Now if thats what happens what are you going to do with the set of tires you dont need.It is unwise to put all your eggs in one basket.And it is unfair to madmab to put him under the gun with the pressure to do it.And he did not need the incentive of the screenshots he is one of the former members of the repository he has always helped me out when I asked and I believe he would not be any different to anyone else.But if you wanted to show him some love I believe the way to his heart is the 5200 not the colecovision.I believe the colecovision is for us "the scene".The 5200 was his 1st project and I am betting there was a reason or method behind it.Food for thought on the proper way to work people using people skills is all I am saying.
Hey man, I think that the underlying thought process behind this is that because some xport emulators have been given the ability to run preview videos all of them can, since from my understanding there would be some sort of similiarity amongst the code for these emulators. In this case it would be easier to make the videos now and to have them when the time comes, than to have an option available with no videos in which to use...
ressurectionx
Sep 18 2008, 06:07 AM
I'm done talking about it. If you don't like it my way, tough titty.
What you say C2W and what run is saying are two totally different but equally annoying things. Either contribute or don't. You were a big backer of BP not releasing his source until he was done. What do you think about him not releasing his new build until people test and make the keymapping fixes. How is that any different?
If you don't like it, don't post in here anymore. I don't care what either of you think since you're not contributing to the project. If somebody who is has something to say, I'll gladly talk to them about it, but as it stands, those who have contributed and continue to do so are the ones who are really supporting their work by doing things instead of doing a lot of talking. When sotu and gilles and madmab call me a bastard, I'll start listening.
I plan on releasing all the work, but it will be done on a system-by-system basis as they are COMPLETED.
End of story.
~Rx
run088
Sep 18 2008, 06:13 AM
I was not talking about the people with genuine interest only the ones that I think are participating that are doing so not out of there wants or desire or needs but his and his way he thinks everything should look and be for the future of the whole design.Which I admire in a way of the determination to do so but not at the expensive of my wants or needs or those of anybody elses for that matter.I dont want to see the outcome of everything come down to a strangle hold on screenshots.Which more and more becomes apparent.
ressurectionx
Sep 18 2008, 06:15 AM
I've laid out the terms. If you don't like them, then I recommend using the reposetory instead. There's plenty of incomplete versions out there that you can rename and work with on your own. I'm not keeping anybody else from having all of this stuff. It's all out there. You want to know "what have you done?"...... go ahead and re-do all the work I've already done instead of doing videos. Your choice.
ressurectionx
Sep 18 2008, 08:12 AM
I got your PM run, and I'm going to post it here. I'm not calling you out or nothing. I appreciate the words, but I feel they should be said here, and mine as well.
I dont have a problem with you or the things you want or need.Much of them are the same as me.I really like you and consider you a friend or ally on the site.I think you are important to the scene.I just dont care for the way your doing it.You could have did the same thing but deceptively and noone would have known.I was just dissappointed in it and thought better of you thats why I spoke up.I will never speak of it again.Whats done is done.And if you need anything dont think I harbor grudges because I dont.I am here to help and I believe your here to do the same and thats what really counts.So sorry if I got under your skin.And truths for what its worth.
I do appreciate your concern, but deception isn't my game. I'm very proud of the work that I've done and I'm not asking for much in return, considering hours spent working. I don't want to see you go and I hope you'll help out. Like I said, I'm more than willing to share everything that I've done, but I'm just asking for help is all. If I didn't want to share, I wouldn't have started this in the first place.
I thought I was being pretty transparent here, but allow me to spill it out for everyone clearly.
I've done 95% of the organization work for major emus as far as purging bad roms, renaming everyting within FATX standards, making romnames and videos already created the exact same names so they load for the end user without any problems, tested compatibility of games, made some controller fixes (primarily in Colecovision now), I've collected extras and have had other users come to me with new extras to add to the collection, I've created a centralized place for anyone to get all this stuff, and I've shared it with everyone for free. All I want in return is help with the videos along the way. I put in an average of about 5 hours a day on this project. It's not like I'm sitting here doing nothing.
You haven't even checked out the ZSnesxbox Xtras on the emu it was intended for because you prefer the XPORT emulator. I can assure you it was worth the wait. I have a lot of people on threads and PM's thanking me for putting it together. I have also given thanks to everyone over and over again for their hard work and have never taken credit for things that I didn't personally do.
I don't know what more you want from me.
No hard feelings if you ain't got none....
~Rx
run088
Sep 18 2008, 08:42 AM
I have no hard feelings and meant what I said.
ressurectionx
Sep 18 2008, 08:54 AM
Great to hear run. I don't have hard feelings either, and I also meant everything that I said.
I posted this in another thread to you about the future of XPORT skins, and wanted it said here also as well. I also mean every word of this as well.
I really think of us as a team. I tell my brother about what we've done and since he doesn't know much about any of this stuff he's amazed by what we've all done. There were people before us and there will be people after us doing this stuff. I don't favor anyone who is part of it then, now and in the future anymore than anyone else. We all do this because we want it to happen and we work together with the belief that some day it will be done.
Thank you everyone for working so hard on this. You all have talents in different areas that I could only wish I had. We all are great at doing what it is we do. Together, we'll make the XBox one of the things that even "pinks" talk about.
I look forward to seeing what it is we can make this black and green brick do.
Viva La XBox!
~Rx
Don't fight the tide man. Help out for the cause. I only have taken this task upon myself because I beileve in how much I've put into this project and the potential that we all have together to really push this to the limits.
Hope you're on board.
Take it easy,
~Rx
competes2win
Sep 18 2008, 09:26 AM
QUOTE(ressurectionx @ Sep 18 2008, 01:43 AM)

I'm done talking about it. If you don't like it my way, tough titty.
What you say C2W and what run is saying are two totally different but equally annoying things. Either contribute or don't. You were a big backer of BP not releasing his source until he was done. What do you think about him not releasing his new build until people test and make the keymapping fixes. How is that any different?
If you don't like it, don't post in here anymore. I don't care what either of you think since you're not contributing to the project. If somebody who is has something to say, I'll gladly talk to them about it, but as it stands, those who have contributed and continue to do so are the ones who are really supporting their work by doing things instead of doing a lot of talking. When sotu and gilles and madmab call me a bastard, I'll start listening.
I plan on releasing all the work, but it will be done on a system-by-system basis as they are COMPLETED.
End of story.
~Rx
that's pretty much condenscending bull, holding one's opinion higher than another's... but ok.
As for your comparison, that is what I'm talking about actually... No where in my above post did I say that I was against what you were doing or that you requested people to help out... There's nothing wrong with any of that and why would there be? Your situation is the same as BP's in that the people helping you are doing so because they want to. This collaboration is great and what the scene is built upon... All I'm saying is that you or BP or anyone else should not expect everyone to contribute and should not be condenscending to everyone else. Nor should you threaten to withhold your work because of those people, either decide to release the project or don't. And don't permeate some high and mighty attitude and belief in your posts that since you put all this effort into something you deserve something in return, you do this because you think you are bettering the scene, not for compliments...
ressurectionx
Sep 18 2008, 09:47 AM
I agree with everything you said except why I'm witholding anything. Whether or not emu related stuff is complete is ouside of the scope of this. When the videos are made, I will release the work. That's it.
I am doing this to better the scene and it's working. Help out or don't. That's freedom, ain't it?
competes2win
Sep 18 2008, 10:06 AM
Ok then I guess we're agreed, I never really blamed you or said that you were withholding the work for any given reason... just saying that its unfair to withhold, or threaten to withold, work simply for the fact that no one is helping. buy saying that you aren't going to do any videos and its up to everyone else to do them, and that you won't release anything until you have a complete set is ok in my book. just as long as you don't lash out at the masses if by chance there aren't enough people contributing to actually get the job done, complaining that you deserve the help since you did so much... thats all i'm saying.
ressurectionx
Sep 18 2008, 10:14 AM
I never said I didn't do any videos. I worked with Horscht for about a week and he came up with a way to easily make the video conversions from emumovies. Before that, it took me about 5 hours or more to do 50 conversions from AVI to WMV. Had that not happened, you all might still have only the 45 videos that NES provided you, except for sotu and Horscht that actually made videos for themselves that they shared. I already have 80% or more of the videos for almost every system. I plan on sharing them, but people have to work for it.
Again I'll say, anyone who doesn't like it is free to leave.
Any noob that came in here and gets the ZSnesxbox Xtras is lucky that it's out there for them now. Only a few hours and they got everything we've wanted.
Quit being bitches and just help out so we can get this out there. Or if not, then just go away so the people working on this can get stuff done.
madmab
Sep 18 2008, 11:28 AM
QUOTE(run088 @ Sep 18 2008, 12:12 AM)

I just want to know what your going to do if xports emulators cant play the videos?It seems it maybe a waste of work and time.And until it is able to happen it is a worthless cause.Dont be under the impression because znes does it that it is possible on everything else.
There are already 3 x-port emu's released that can play videos and one unreleased that cannot. Have you been paying attention?
As for issues I've seen plenty of co-operation from all people involved except for nay-sayers and I'll leave it at that. If you wanna get involved, great! If not then enjoy what is being made available while it is there.
I see no point in releasing videos for an emu until it is ready. There is a set of colecovision/adamX files being prepped even as we speak. When the new version of AdamX comes out that supports video previews then that set will be released. Otherwise that set is kinda useless.
Plus with dual previews in the works we have not quite settled on how it is gonna function. It will become more obvious as things progress.
ressurectionx
Sep 18 2008, 03:09 PM
Hey madmab,
Did you have a good version of the video for "Super Cobra" on the Coleco? I had a file named Super Cobra, but it was actually just a different video for "Super Cross Force". This is the only bad video in the set that I've found.
I should have the saves for configurations up for Coleco shortly. I know you're trying to do something to fix it within the code (way over my head) but at least until/if you get that working you can use these saves to start your games right up without having to go to the trouble of configuring them yourself. I'll let you know when I post them.
~Rx
madmab
Sep 18 2008, 03:53 PM
QUOTE(ressurectionx @ Sep 18 2008, 10:45 AM)

Hey madmab,
Did you have a good version of the video for "Super Cobra" on the Coleco? I had a file named Super Cobra, but it was actually just a different video for "Super Cross Force". This is the only bad video in the set that I've found.
I should have the saves for configurations up for Coleco shortly. I know you're trying to do something to fix it within the code (way over my head) but at least until/if you get that working you can use these saves to start your games right up without having to go to the trouble of configuring them yourself. I'll let you know when I post them.
~Rx
No. Mine is the same as yours. When I get a chance I can record that one as well as a few other ones that could be improved (they recorded without using proper controls

).
No big hurry on the controller settings just yet. It will be a little while before I add that in. Currently my project order is...
1. Dual preview..
2. Dealing with screensize settings on different display sizes.
3. Something I'd rather not mention just yet.
4. Getting the overlays working.
Let's just say number 3 is intended to expediate the dual preview process while we actually have someone interested in creating the needed skins.
ressurectionx
Sep 18 2008, 04:08 PM
I'll put up the saves anyhow when I get them done. That way, even if you don't get around to changing anything in the code the controller fixes will still be available with the saves. I'm almost done. There are some games that just seem too difficult for me to set with little reward. Not too many, but all of my fixes and the games I opted not to bother with are all remarked in the spreadsheet. If you want to take a crack at the remaining ones I'll add those configurations to the completed set and re-release them. If not, no worries. I'm never going to play those games anyhow.
Pretty excited about your # 3 and the other things you're going to do too. Whenever you get around to those videos let me know and I'll pack em up and post them. No rush.
Thanks madmab,
~Rx
EDIT: I might be a bit longer than I thought with those saves. Since the sound engines are different now, I have to go back and fix all of the games I did before. I also want to make sure that every game has an easy way to restart the game after a game over. I'm basically making the start button the game start and the select button the reset button for playing the second time around. This seems to work great with most games.
run088
Sep 18 2008, 09:16 PM
QUOTE(madmab @ Sep 18 2008, 05:04 AM)

There are already 3 x-port emu's released that can play videos and one unreleased that cannot. Have you been paying attention?
As for issues I've seen plenty of co-operation from all people involved except for nay-sayers and I'll leave it at that. If you wanna get involved, great! If not then enjoy what is being made available while it is there.
I see no point in releasing videos for an emu until it is ready. There is a set of colecovision/adamX files being prepped even as we speak. When the new version of AdamX comes out that supports video previews then that set will be released. Otherwise that set is kinda useless.
Plus with dual previews in the works we have not quite settled on how it is gonna function. It will become more obvious as things progress.
I said that with something else that was said with you and xport in another thread one emulator I had on my mind was gba I thought I remembered him saying that it would have problems like the other emulators you mentioned.And if it had problems like I thought was talked about.Just on that emulator alone there would be around 2500 plus videos that are wasted.I was not saying that all would be wasted but it would be a crime if only one emulator that effort was put in didnt work.I have read plenty sometimes I dont get my point communicated the way I want.My point was a little more concentration on what can be done and try to limit people on what maynot be feasable.I figured this was going to be like any other xport feature that it will work on most and have problems on some.The problem is we wont know the true number of the effected emulators until the feature is implemented.It is a catch22 until then.Time will tell soon enough.
madmab
Sep 19 2008, 02:41 AM
As far as I know Winuaex and (possibly) dosxbox are the only emulators that would (possibly) have any issues with movie previews.. All other emulators should be capable of displaying the movies with no issues.
ressurectionx
Sep 19 2008, 04:06 AM
QUOTE(madmab @ Sep 19 2008, 03:17 AM)

As far as I know Winuaex and (possibly) dosxbox are the only emulators that would (possibly) have any issues with movie previews.. All other emulators should be capable of displaying the movies with no issues.
That's what I heard you say before. Not sure if I have any videos for those systems. It would be cool to put the ability on if it's possible, but I don't believe that we're going to find many people willing to do videos for either of those anyways. Not a huge loss if we can't.
Hey run. I know you PM'd me this, but I'd like to keep things out in the open. I like the idea of getting help on the screenshot packs. I'm very particular about the way that I name my roms though. Which systems are you looking to do first? We'll collaborrate on the names before you get to work on them.
Below is the PM. I put "DONE" or "PARTIAL" to show the progress of the screenshot work. Just because they're DONE though, it's not perfect for uploading anyhow until I get to the system and tweak and perfect it like the SNES and Lynx. Always some renaming and adding and purging to do in the final sweep or two. Just letting you know that the ones that are either done or partial I have already done or am partially through. I plan on doing more in the future. Got a ton of things happening now though so feel free to take any one that I haven't started.
Thanks in advance for the help,
~Rx
P.S. Yes, the reposotory has great work. Got a lot of my stuff from there and emumovies and various other places. About 15% of the artwork or more for every emu is hand collected from Gamefaqs, romsites, even eBay auctions. I've collected all of these and have put together the most comprehensive collection of artwork that is available on the internet. (proove me wrong

)
All of the work before me is greatly appreciated, as is all of the work going on now and in the future. Anything that you got is great news to hear. Any luck uploading the SNES9xBox artwork yet? I'll get it up there when you finish that.
Later
QUOTE
Which systems are complete?
I have almost everything worth while from the old repository and some of it is superb work.The 7800 for instance is completed and just needs renumbered with dat files there are also many other good pics for the others some have all 4 some dont but all of them need done and I planned on doing them anyway at some point.The real project I got going right now is on hold for parts so I been spinning my wheels with my emulators and linux to keep me fresh doing something new to avoid burnout.So let me know which ones are completed so I can get to what needs to be done instead of something that is already done.I got around 30 xport emulators and all of them are going to get done one way or another.
Let me know?
Here is a list of the systems I am talking about other than the two already released
A2600 - DONE
A5200 - DONE
A7800 - DONE
Amiga
Amstrad cpc
Atari St
coleco - DONE
c-64
gameboy PARTIAL
sega - DONE
intellivision - PARTIAL
msx
neogeo pocket - PARTIAL
nintendo - DONE
playstation
gamegear\master system - DONE
supervision
tg16 - DONE
virtualboy - PARTIAL
wonderswan
x68000
ressurectionx
Sep 19 2008, 06:22 AM
Here's the save files for my controller/sound configurations madmab (and anyone else). I still have to make a datfile so your games match my name. I'll get around to that later.
run088
Sep 19 2008, 07:01 AM
No I will mail them if someone can do it if I cant.I have tried on rapid share.Mega upload.I tried a torrent think I almost got it I created it anyway but I could get no further than that.The most I have been able to get it to do is 34.5% before it just said done at the bottom and nothing else would happen or it will freeze or say connection interupted.I dont know how to get it done for real it seems like grasping for straws.So I will mail it or maybe someone can tell me exactly what it is I am doing wrong and how to get it corrected.
And just get the dats together for the names and I will change them to whatever.The rom names make no difference to me as long as I can tell what it is and it dont look crazy on samba or relax which has not happened on the systems so far.But I did notice it seems that the ftp is unable to transfer some files.Which makes no sense if your not having problems on znes roms.When ever I use xbox neighborhood it transfers perfectly but flash fxp has problems.It cant transfer all the files some reject transfer.I dont keep my roms on my xbox so samba or relax does not care what the name is to an extent.But folders of the same name has problems going to the xbox.My rom names are a perfect match to your dats.I took the same roms that had problems picking the name on the way the xport emulator reacts to some file names there were several differences I do not know the pattern but I am sure it is there when you try to do the transfer.Some of the files the emulator creates for the file name wont transfer from ftp but is fine when on the xbox or transfered threw xbox neighborhood.Somebody smarter than me can figure out why.But it might cause problems later I dont remember if I had any problems with the dats from atari lynx if I did they were minimal or I would remember.
run088
Sep 19 2008, 07:41 AM
QUOTE(ressurectionx @ Sep 18 2008, 09:42 PM)

That's what I heard you say before. Not sure if I have any videos for those systems. It would be cool to put the ability on if it's possible, but I don't believe that we're going to find many people willing to do videos for either of those anyways. Not a huge loss if we can't.
Hey run. I know you PM'd me this, but I'd like to keep things out in the open. I like the idea of getting help on the screenshot packs. I'm very particular about the way that I name my roms though. Which systems are you looking to do first? We'll collaborrate on the names before you get to work on them.
Below is the PM. I put "DONE" or "PARTIAL" to show the progress of the screenshot work. Just because they're DONE though, it's not perfect for uploading anyhow until I get to the system and tweak and perfect it like the SNES and Lynx. Always some renaming and adding and purging to do in the final sweep or two. Just letting you know that the ones that are either done or partial I have already done or am partially through. I plan on doing more in the future. Got a ton of things happening now though so feel free to take any one that I haven't started.
Thanks in advance for the help,
~Rx
P.S. Yes, the reposotory has great work. Got a lot of my stuff from there and emumovies and various other places. About 15% of the artwork or more for every emu is hand collected from Gamefaqs, romsites, even eBay auctions. I've collected all of these and have put together the most comprehensive collection of artwork that is available on the internet. (proove me wrong

)
All of the work before me is greatly appreciated, as is all of the work going on now and in the future. Anything that you got is great news to hear. Any luck uploading the SNES9xBox artwork yet? I'll get it up there when you finish that.
Later
I got what seems complete set gameboy boxes with some kind of renaming tool.
Intellivision got what looks like the no intro
No intro c-64
Got a complete set of n64 I think maybe a few others.
These are from the repository.
madmab
Sep 19 2008, 08:11 AM
I'm a pretty big fan of the Amiga myself (was designed by the same guy who made the atari 8-bit machines) and it happens to be my 2nd favorite machine. So you might see some videos from me. I also have a handful (over 100) of videos for the atarixlbox emulator. I redid the ones that came from emumovies cause I didn't like them. But it may be a while before I can update that emu. Sadly it's fallen a little behind in the codebase. Well that and I changed the auto config system and need to rebuild the config database.

I'll probably do a handful for the msdos emu. Not a whole lot, but some.

Dosxbox is such a pain to set up it can get a bit tedious.
I got dual previews working. Check out my sneak peak video in giles skin thread. So it's time to get busy!!!
run088
Sep 19 2008, 09:01 AM
QUOTE(madmab @ Sep 19 2008, 01:47 AM)

I'm a pretty big fan of the Amiga myself (was designed by the same guy who made the atari 8-bit machines) and it happens to be my 2nd favorite machine. So you might see some videos from me. I also have a handful (over 100) of videos for the atarixlbox emulator. I redid the ones that came from emumovies cause I didn't like them. But it may be a while before I can update that emu. Sadly it's fallen a little behind in the codebase. Well that and I changed the auto config system and need to rebuild the config database.

I'll probably do a handful for the msdos emu. Not a whole lot, but some.

Dosxbox is such a pain to set up it can get a bit tedious.
I got dual previews working. Check out my sneak peak video in giles skin thread. So it's time to get busy!!!

Amiga will be the next one I start then.It is at least important to have the screenshots at least for it since it will be a toss up on the videos.I do need some dat files before I can start I have to many games of that system alone it is unorganizied it would be impossible for me to get something compatible for everyone.
And what about some kind of swap file for the skin I dont know if its possible or easy done but alot of programs use them.xbmc and linux to name a few.I dont know just trying to throw some ideas around for you.
ressurectionx
Sep 19 2008, 04:18 PM
Not sure why you're having problems with the FTP there run. Are these on games that the name wasn't changed and they're more than 42 characters (including the extention)? That's really all I can think of, since all the stuff I uploaded was from an exact mirror of my XBox drive, so I know that they all fit within the filename limits in FATX.
I've got a list of the Amiga games in the compatibility lists now. That's a ton of games. I'll have to see how many I renamed and how much more work I'd need to do to finish the dats. Amiga isn't really on my radar right now, so I don't know how much time I will invest on this in the near future, but eventually I'd like to get to all the emulators.
Here's the list:

Good luck getting that one together guys. I'll help out where I can. I got about 10 things I'm in the middle of working on right now.
~Rx
run088
Sep 19 2008, 06:47 PM
I will make a list of the games for you and you can see if you have problems with them on transfer.Some of the names the emulator changed when it made the folder for it.I dont know why some seem perfect by the look but the emulator dont like them.That part is no big deal the users should not have any issues with those but they will have a problem with the other files.It seems for the most part it is the japanese files that are causing the problem there are some U.S. ones but the number of them are small.There is one symbol that I am sure is causing issues I will have to check to be sure what it is but the emulator changes it to something else when it makes the folder.I say this because it will more than likely show its head on some of the other systems if your naming is the same way across the board.You are not going to be able to tell pulling them from the system.The problem is putting them in the system.I will get the list and post it asap.If there are any changes you all want to make it will be better to do it now than after it is released.And if you do make some changes on the dats if it is needed.Let me know what they are and I will make the changes on both snes sets and get them both back to you when we figure out how to get it from here to there.If you give me mailing info I can burn it to disk and send it or as I said before a little more direction on getting it uploaded.
ressurectionx
Sep 19 2008, 07:04 PM
Sure man. Get me a list of games you're having problems with and I'll see if I can do anything about it.
Let me know if you have the same problem with the following datfiles for Colecovision. I did them differently and I want to know if it fixed the problem.
Let me know if any of you have any problems setting it up this way.
~Rx
run088
Sep 19 2008, 10:33 PM
Here is the snes I will get to the coleco if I have time before I get my daughter if not it will be later.I can never manage to get anything done when I have her.
Bastard!! -Ankoku
Choujkuu Yousui macross
congo the movie
do-Re-Me fantasy
donkey kong country 2
dragonballz-la legende saien
dragonballz-super sayla
flintstones-the treasure
ganpuru-gunmans proof
great circus mystery
jimmy houstons bass
kuusou kagaku sekia
mickey to donald magicasl adventure 3
newman-hass indy car
orge battle
panic in nakayoshi world
sanrio world smash volleyball
shin nekketsu
speedy gonzales
super starwars return of the jedi
These are not the file names just shortened them to save time but these are the files that do not like to transfer.
not bad out of 900plus
As I said samba doesnot have a problem with the names or transfering it threw the hood.Flash just wont work with them.
The screenshots for adam transfered perfect I have not got to run my roms threw the dats yet.But everything else should transfer just as easy.I will verify it all later but I got to go pick up the kid now.
Later
Forgot to add the tut for hooking up network play.I got to dig it up but it is easy to do if your box is already networked to the pc or internet.I know who wrote the tut but dont have time now to find it.And I know I am going to spell his name wrong so I dont mean any disrespect if I do.It is written about neogenesis but it is the same for all xport.Cospefogo is the author I will dig it up later.
ressurectionx
Sep 19 2008, 11:38 PM
That's all of them then?
That's strange that they would behave that way. Obviously those aren't my file names that you posted, so I'm wondering if Romcenter actually renamed the roms or not. If it did, that's really a mystery to me, if they didn't and the games names are 43 characters or more it would make more sense.
Does the artwork/video transfer fine for you? If not, you're the first one who has reported any problems with them, and I would assume if they transfered with the same names as your roms there wouldn't be a problem.
Thanks for bringing this up. Always something that can be tweaked here or there. Never would be able to work out all the kinks on my own.
Let me know,
~Rx
ressurectionx
Sep 20 2008, 12:03 AM
We should probably have a meeting about which emulators everyone would like to work on next. I'm just working from one to the next all over the place, but if there's a plan, I can try to help out on the video/screenshot's end.
I know that you already got Amiga started on artwork run088, so that's you're baby. If I have any videos, I'll remark what I have in the spreadsheet. (I'm not sure if there are pre-made Amiga videos yet).
Currently, I have videos converted for Genesis, Sega CD, 32x, TG16, TG16CD, NES, Atari Lynx, Atari 2600 and Gameboy. I will be doing 5200 and 7800 as well as Gameboy Color and Gameboy Advance in the near future.
Which videos should I work on next in anticipation of a release madmab? A full set of Amiga is a pipe dream at this point, but I'd like to get it completed as well someday. After the base for the emus is complete and you make the Amiga release, would you release one of the above sets so we can get to work on it. I have no qualms about starting with the Atari systems that I know you like.
Let me know,
~Rs
madmab
Sep 20 2008, 12:50 AM
QUOTE(ressurectionx @ Sep 19 2008, 07:39 PM)

We should probably have a meeting about which emulators everyone would like to work on next. I'm just working from one to the next all over the place, but if there's a plan, I can try to help out on the video/screenshot's end.
I know that you already got Amiga started on artwork run088, so that's you're baby. If I have any videos, I'll remark what I have in the spreadsheet. (I'm not sure if there are pre-made Amiga videos yet).
Currently, I have videos converted for Genesis, Sega CD, 32x, TG16, TG16CD, NES, Atari Lynx, Atari 2600 and Gameboy. I will be doing 5200 and 7800 as well as Gameboy Color and Gameboy Advance in the near future.
Which videos should I work on next in anticipation of a release madmab? A full set of Amiga is a pipe dream at this point, but I'd like to get it completed as well someday. After the base for the emus is complete and you make the Amiga release, would you release one of the above sets so we can get to work on it. I have no qualms about starting with the Atari systems that I know you like.
Let me know,
~Rs
Hey run088.. When I was working on an amiga set for the emulation repository I was basing it on the Amiga Gamebase. The idea being that, even though not 100% complete, the authors chose roms/disks that are known to work. I also, at the time, was working on a set based off of Lemon Amiga. A popular front end for Amiga games.
But then, of course, I got side tracked when I decided it would be better to do "whdload" games (since alot of games are multidisk). I got to the letter G on the "whdload" stuff (about 533 games). None of it has been tested on the Xbox though. Seems they sometimes act differently. The only big change I see to winuaex that I was thinking of doing were the auto setups (which I believe were a little "off"). And fixing up the interlaced display which looks like crap on the xbox.
lol. I have real big plans for the 2600 emulator so that one may be a while.

I would suppose that either Genesis, TG16, NES, or the Lynx would be the place to start for now.
ResX.. Going back to the 2600. I'm not sure which set you are using. But I went thru alot of trouble to whiddle out most of the clones, etc. The goodset is a HUGE mess when it comes to 2600 games. If you want I can send you what I have. I only need to finish up renaming T-Z roms. You probably will end up renaming them though (I added release year and publisher). I mostly do that cause most 2600 games do not have credits on load like the later ssytems.
One trick for renaming roms. If you go into Tools->folder options->(tab)view and check "hide extensions for known types" it makes it easier to rename files without accidently erasing the extension. It's also real handy for matching up names on files with different extensions (movie, roms, pictures, etc) when they are in the same directory.
ressurectionx
Sep 20 2008, 01:52 AM
Great. Sounds like you guys can really help each other out on the Amiga....
As for the Atari 2600, most of that work is done already. When I started this, I had a ton of roms and their names fixed. I'm sure there are things that need to be fixed, like with any emu I've done, but it's mostly done already.
I wouldn't mind comparing notes with you though.
Here's the spreadsheet. Let me know what you think...

Rx
run088
Sep 20 2008, 04:37 AM
Here is a couple tuts on netplay.Once it is set up you can play anytime with the matching dats around the board which is another big reason for one set of dats.That is the only catch as far as I know both parties roms must be the same name.One person has to be the server and the client needs the servers ip address.And for those that will misunderstand reading later it must be the ip from your provider not the ones you name yourself.
Here is one I just found it looks pretty solid but not the one I used
http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23968Here is another
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=649312And another
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=415478My bad Cospefogo had a reply in the thread of the tut I mentioned or was looking for a game around the same time.My memory just failed me but it has been around a year since I read it. The author of the one I used was mysteryman2k8.
run088
Sep 20 2008, 06:08 AM
I think we have a problem with coleco unless some new feature is implemented I dont know about and if that is the case then the screens can't go retro.The screens names differ from the dats names and that dont work on xport they must be the same name exact or if the emulator does not like it it will give the name itself to use.I noticed on the dats that the description field on the dats is what the screenshots and saves name is.The rom name is different.The easy fix would be to change the roms to the screens and saves names that would be less work.154 to change instead of 308.Let me know if you want me to fix it.Or if you all want the 154 or 308 fix.Or tell me if I need to recheck my system which I doubt since a few will pick up.
And how are the videos going to be stored or named.Will they just add to the same folder as the screenshots and have a different extention or will it have a directory of its own?
And if it does have a directory of its own is its naming system going to be the same?
If so then the names of that directory must be considered as well.
Just trying to get all the bases covered incase I am right and there is a problem so we wont forget and have to do more work later.
ressurectionx
Sep 20 2008, 06:48 AM
I don't understand what the problem is. The artwork/saves/videos are the same name. Please explain what problem it is you're having.
run088
Sep 20 2008, 07:36 AM
name "2010 - The Graphic Action Game"
description "2010 - The Graphic Action Game"
rom ( name "2010 (1984) (Coleco).col" size 32768 crc c575a831 )
)
Here is a piece of the dat for the roms.
See where it says description that is the name of the saves and screenshots
See where it say rom on the next line that is the name of the roms
See the difference?
The rom names must be what the screenshots and saves are but they are different.
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