Hi there, Reporting in

First Gen Xbox360 1.4 firmware only,

Have Played recently
Gears of War 2
Scene It :BOS
Tom Clancys: EndWar

Have Not Played:
Shaun White
Fallout 3

Just logged onto Xbox Live at 1:00AM EST; not banned.
All Games checked out w/ abgx360, ntsc. all games burned on verbatim, games have been played on live.

Here's hoping microsoft had a small list.

well i had a friend tell me ages ago that new games where going to be recording data to be sent to xbox live when you connect so evenif you play a bad stealthed game with out connecting to xbox live any xbox live games will then collect all the gathered info and send back to HQ lol i thought he was chattin shit coz nobody got banned i a big sweep for like a year hope this isnt the case although i suppose they could have been waiting untill they tried to rebrand the console and freshen it, wht better way than ban as many old cosoles as possible

Got a call from a guy I just modded his benQ (iExtreme 1.41) a few weeks ago and he was banned today (11/10/2008). He was playing the Gears 2 release from 360inT and did not run Mulleter on the iso before burning it (if you run the Mulleter fix against it, it will patch it). He was also playing G2 well before release date while unplugged from xbox live.

I'll report any more bans that I hear of and try to put as much info in as possible.

I guess I'll know as soon as the NXE launches. I've got a BenQ drive with 1.4.1 fw only played backups with good ss. c4eva says he's going to be doing a live log in about an hour.

Hi there, Reporting in

Last Gen Xbox360 1.4 firmware only: MS28 Drive (spoofed Liteon)

Have Played recently
Fifa 09 (online)
Fallout 3 (disconnected Live)
Tom Clancys: EndWar (disconnected Live)
Secret Service (With Live connected)
James Bond QOS (Online)
COD WaW (disconnected Live)

Have Not Played:
Shaun White
Mirrors Edge

Just logged onto Xbox Live at 7:46 GMT + 1; not banned.
All Games checked out w/ abgx360, pal/ntsc.

what was the original DVD drive in your xbox, and what is the new one if you've changed it? Just from the previous posts here it looks like only samsungs are being banned, but it's still very unclear.

So far most if not all of the posts I have seen of people getting banned have been running the 1.4 firmware. Can anyone who's banned confirm that they are running the 1.41 firmware? Hitachi 0047dj with ixtreme 1.41 here, not banned.

Not banned here.

1.4 firmware and no clue what my drive is. I have always been smart about playing unreleased games on my memory stick without the internet or HD plugged in and I always check my iso files with mulleter.

Original: Lite-On DG16D2S
New One: Samsung MS 28

And it's not just Samsungs, seen reports of BenQ's being banned as well.

You can still do a live connection test and get status codes with the NXE installed.




I think a lot of the people stating 1.4 are just not being specific and are actually running 1.41.

Where can I find this witch craft you speak of?

Googled it and cant find abgx360

I was sooo excited that i finished exams
*powers on xbox*

"gonna play some gears of war 2 liveee weee"

"BANNED"



Got banned downunder

Manufactured January 2008 with Benq ixtreme 1.41

Looks like im joining a gym:(

Benq with 1.41 not banned

BenQ w/ 1.41 firmware. Not banned yet. Played Gears 2 online early, but maybe for only 1 game.

benq with 1.41

only played dvd's on my 360 (one or 2) and Rockband 2 (cuz my original disc got crushed by my nephew..damnit)

havn't played gears2 or fallout3 or anything early...

not banned as of yet.

on a side note, EDIT: my codes are 0000's, is that a good thing?

Hey,
just got word of ban hammer. im thinking i wont get banned because i have the nxe dash and can connect to live until the 19th anyway soo my console is in still working condition...

1 question if i do the network test for xbox live will i get banned?

Think about this everytime M$ get one of us the run around M$ headquarters high fiving each other screaming WE GOT THE BASTARD

Xbox 360 console manufactured in 2007 ....samsung drive ixtreme 1.4

" dont hate the player, hate the game "

BenQ 1.41 spoofed as a Hitachi 0078.
Only been playing backups and retail copies of Gears of War 2 and Fable II, but mostly my retail copies since I'm on live most of the time.
So far, I'm not banned and I hope it stays that way.

I haven't gotten banned yet. I have Benq ixtreme 1.4. I have played Fable II early.

i havent gotten banned yet, though im goin to purchase a new 360 tomorrow. if i put in my hdd and use my profile and all that stuff, and then log into live can i still get banned?? thanx

If you recover your gamertag onto the new 360 you shouldnt have a problem. However M$ will only ban the console not your account or "gamertag"

"dont hate the player, hate the game"

Soma games have the ss.bin from another game, the firmware cannot check that and boots the game...

Elite Samsung 1.4 spoofed to lite-on.. still online

thanx for that, i had doubt abt buying a new 360. its all guudd now.

IX1.41 BenQ not banned. Purchased about a year ago modded out of the box.
3 other friends same drive/fw, not banned.

Played tons of backups connected to live, though never played a game not recognized by Mulleter or abgx360 database. Only used backups once said software either verified game, approved ss, or patched isos. Unverified games have never touched my box.

Have not played GOW2, COD5, or any of the games released in the past two weeks. I have never played a game pre street date.

This criteria applies to 3 friends' boxes also.

I'm hoping to duck dive this second wave.
Well wishing for all us modders!

Does this have to do with the New Dashboard? I upgraded to the new dashboard so I can play online yet, so maybe on the 19th Ill know if im banned or not

No. Many consoles banned w/o it.

I was around 3-4pm eastern, I was playing a legit copy of rockband 2, I played geras of war 2 as a backup but I made sure that copy was 100percent whicch it was a good kreon rip. I have a benq v.141 ixtreme 8x. Weir d thing when tryin to connect to liv e it always says my account is banned but not the console, but status code proves it is a banned console. I did update my rockband 2 and after that aobut 5 mins i was banned. Night before I downloaded the m1a1 for call of duty but I do not have cod waw yet.

360 Elite Mfg. Jan 2008
iXtreme 1.4 on a Hitachi 0047.. drive was originally a BenQ.
Not banned.

im with biseroner<>
i have NXE im going to stick my head in the sand for this one

LOL

I think people do it, in case they got lucky and microsoft didn't catch them in the act. Some people just seem to avoid getting banned. Every banwave they'res people who surivived. So I guess you unplug it, in cause you got lucky, you didn't get banned, and you want to hold off until someone figures out what the new criteria for banning is.

I'm not banned (yet), but I was playing Gears 2 campaign connected to Live but not playing against anybody (local 1p campaign). Using IXtreme 1.4 on a Hitachi 78.

So NME360 owners are the lucky ones now?

If you have NXE Preview and you are banned what is the error code? is it the same?

Just tried it on mine and it said there was a problem with my internet connection! and when i checked for the status code it wasnt the 8015-190d it was ending in something like 199 :S

Just reporting in guys both my consoles are not banned as of 9.30 am GMT 11th November 2008

Benq elite ixtreme 1.41 never had any other firmware flashed to drive
played nearly all pre release titles GoW 2 Fallout 3 Cod.Waw etc etc

ms28 1.4 ixtreme not banned again never had any other firmware flashed
done the same with fallout 3 Gow and Cod and was really expecting this one to be banned
however strange thing is the ip address was not given for some reason and I have to reboot my router and it connected, this didnt happen with the Benq.

If either of mine get banned I will report back just cross me fingers...

hi, sorry for my bad english - im from poland

my console benq, ixtreme 1.41 12x

I did not start up games before premiere

and my console it's not banned

my benq is not spoofed

You don't need to spoof if you are using the drive that came with your console...
You use the spoof when your original drive breaks and you have to get one that is from another brand, to make it look like it was the one that came with your console.

Will i get banned for connecting to live & using xbox marketplace,Downloading Updates ETC. Or only if i actually sign up for a xbox live account & play backup games online ????

No Ban with WD HDD spoof ??

My theory:

Yeah same i got these error codes in a NXE console:

W: 0000-000B
X: 0000-F001
Y: 30A8 -4860
Z: 8015-1918
ID:0006-0001

It is a Lite-on drive which i replaced with a ms28 with ixtreme 1.4 don't know if its banned or not.

This ones only played a few backups anyway

Any time you play even one backup on a console (even offline), you risk being banned from live on that console.

BTW, anyone know how to check to see if a game has the proper SS and not one from a different game?

I don't think MS can ban you if you use a retail disc from a game that has not been released due to store error, or an employee that does not care about the release date. After all, it's not your fault.

I was under the impression that playing backups offline was safe? I only ever connect to Live to grab DLC, even then only for Oblivion and Blue Dragon, the rest of the time I am always offline. Though I did go on Live to download patches for a few games. So this is not the case? I would hate to lose the option of DLC, not to mention patches.

Hi

Yes, there have been some bans, as I'm sure you're all aware. The usual procedure has taken place, and live logs have been created. What this means is c4eva has recorded the information which travels between Xbox Live and your Xbox 360's DVD drive. This tells us which checks Microsoft have been performing.

The live logs have now been uploaded, for anybody who would like to see them:


Quote:
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 Inquiry
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
3B 30 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
5A 00 3B 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
5A 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Check Capacity
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 Read PFI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 80 00 00 00 Read DMI
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 Inquiry
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
3B 30 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
5A 00 3B 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 06 68 00 C0 Read DVD Structure/SS
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 0E 1D A4 49 23
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 E0 6E E5 96 2E
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 78 1E AC 29 EE
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 C9 EA D9 F3 8A
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 4C 71 C5 A0 B6
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 E2 4C C9 78 E0
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
5A 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Check Capacity
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 Read PFI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 Read PFI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 Read PFI
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 Read PFI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 80 00 00 00 Read DMI
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 Inquiry
25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Check Capacity
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Check Capacity
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 Inquiry
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 80 00 00 00 Read DMI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 Read PFI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 Read PFI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 Read PFI
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
3B 30 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
5A 00 3B 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 06 68 00 C0 Read DVD Structure/SS
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 95 CE 92 B2 00
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 36 1D 3B 38 17
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 27 6C 07 F8 78
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 C9 EA D9 F3 8A
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 1B 0D B9 64 76
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 E2 1B C9 27 36
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
5A 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 Inquiry
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 80 00 00 00 Read DMI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 Read PFI
25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Check Capacity
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 Inquiry
25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Check Capacity
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 80 00 00 00 Read DMI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 Read PFI

Now I'm sure most people won't understand the above, but c4eva has confirmed that there are no changes in the checks performed by MS. This has left most people speculating that the reason people are being banned is for playing bad ISO files, specifically the Seed4Me review copies.

So what to do now? Well I would reccommend playing only original retail games, or games which you know are 100% verified and stealthed - as always. But be extremely careful. Anyone who is reading this, and has been banned, please post either here or in TheGRiM's thread, which games you have been playing recently, specifically seed4me releases.

I will keep this thread updated with information on the bans.

Regards

graph.

Thanks for the update Splatsters.

If your downloading game patches you must be loading the game whilst online. The game checks are made when the game loads so im afraid your as good as playing online.

There is no way around that. In all likelyhood unless there is a low probablity of returning a bad SS result 1 time online with a particular copy is as good as a thousand. Id imagine it needs 2 or 3 instances of bad resonces before live trips a ban but who knows.

So far so good really as it means nothings changed. Dodgy torrent images are too risky.

What would be really cool is some form of downloadable patches database you could stick on a USB stick and patch the games that way.

Thank you Captain Obvious!!!

Ive played Fallout 3 READNFO XBOX360-Seed4ME and not been banned yet.

that's really shitty dude. meaning that even a proper ixtreme software and stealthed games can get you in shit? holy crap!!!
I hate those dudes at MS, here in Holland it's legal to have a security copy of your own game. and MS preventing this. to be honest if these fucks from europe would act on Ms and say if no safety copies can work than we should do something to protect the consumer, and they should than kick MS (and other console makers) and tell them to come and sell consoles here in europe after they allow an option of playing safety copies for users....


those freaking MS pricks, very smart indeed. wait until you release great games for online play, throw a couple of them on torrents too early yourselve, sell people your old 20gb harddrives getting them ready for the new update. than bann the shit out of them.
nett result, you got rid of those old harddrives, and sell some new consoles, all those people who payed for live banned.

for fucks sake if they would just allow people to safety copy their own games. and that this is essential we have already seen it from thei screwup with the drives in the beginning

So people (consoles) are getting banned - who would though of that happening again, uh?!?

You're not helping saying your just been banned... To bad for you, it's true.
But if you want to help, you need to share all your info/profile, not the M$ lame codes, like:

- your actual firmware version (and previous, if any)
- if you play pre-releases (which one?)
- if you played non-retail copies (which one?)
- if you go online for your bks (just because your too lazy to do it yourself, of course)
- if you check (our double check) SS/ISO (tools?)
- media/method/burner used
- disc verification (after burning)
- anything else you find relevant

I'm pretty sure I'm not banned. But, after modding, you never know...

And... Know one knows if MS it self couldn't have seeded a bad copy of some game, on purpose. I smell something fishy about the GoW2 and FallOut3 early releases...

It has nothing to do with the firmware, your just banned if you played bad iso's or seed4me releases not everyone i think but you still could be tagged and banned with the next wave (which is a long time away till the big update after NXE so your all safe for a few months/year. And please stop with the bullshit stories about MS banning gamers that play games play-release cause they dont work that way they have to proof that its a illegal game and they can see that with bad rips or seed4me releases.

That seems to be a trend. From what I can tell, the bans aren't coming from Fallout 3 Seed4Me.

Maybe Fracture Seed4Me, Saints Row 2 Seed4Me, or both.



One of the big changes is that there will no longer be a 2 time a year update. Don't misinform.

Hmm... I've only played one Seed4Me copy, I knew there was something dodgy about that group lol.
I never check anything except stealth which is very foolish of me.

I've only played Saints Row 2 -Seed4Me

Havn't been banned yet on Hitachi 78fk Ixtreme 1.4. Fingers Crossed.