Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: My New Case
Scenyx Entertainment Community > Xbox360 Forums > Xbox360 Hardware Forums > Xbox360 Case / Hardware Modding
GamerBR
What do you guys think? beerchug.gif

IPB Image
supersdude1691
just a tiny bit ridiculous but i like it
xelasha
Sorry dude but powering an extra fan from that 3 pin isn't doing anything good, Infact probably worse!.
12v that extra fan using the DVD drive power or solder it and you have yourself a cold 360.
GamerBR
QUOTE(xelasha @ Nov 26 2008, 02:47 PM) *

Sorry dude but powering an extra fan from that 3 pin isn't doing anything good, Infact probably worse!.
12v that extra fan using the DVD drive power or solder it and you have yourself a cold 360.

What I've always heard is not to power it using power from the DVD.The fan power souce is supposed to at least power the 2 60mm fans at full power(12v),as with a mod like the temperature will not increase that much for the 360 put the fans at full power,adding a 80mm is not an issue at all.
GamerBR
Only now I realised that you could be referring to the fact that the fans are not at full power(12v),I prefer it to heat a little more for less noise,the temperature is great,the heatsink is only ~10°C more than ambient temperature now. smile.gif
Eddie_the_Hated
QUOTE
Sorry dude but powering an extra fan from that 3 pin isn't doing anything good, Infact probably worse!.
12v that extra fan using the DVD drive power or solder it and you have yourself a cold 360.


Don't ever use DVD drive power. Especially when there's perfectly good 12v sources on the bottom pins of your power cord connector port.
brandogg
Well that's thinking outside the box. </pun> Sorry, someone had to say it. I think it's actually pretty sweet.
Mholt215
QUOTE(brandogg @ Nov 26 2008, 06:15 PM) *

Well that's thinking outside the box. </pun> Sorry, someone had to say it. I think it's actually pretty sweet.



LOL So true, and yea it is pretty cool.. Probably helps with the cooling issue a lot haha Whats mounting it to the wood?
PezDispenser
Well, I like it.

...of course, I also think the picture needs a caption. Something like: "for some reason, for 2 years MicroSoft could not verify any RRoD problem..."

smile.gif
BombTester
Thats to Ghetto For me LOL
WOW
Dizzan
Are you sure you're getting enough airflow?

j/k.. that's pretty funny man. it reminds me of when i was doing mods on my 360 and had all the parts layed out across my workbench while it was running. I always thought about just bolting it to some plexi or somethin and making a mount for fans.

pretty sweet.. as long as it works just fine, it's a good mod. kinda makes me want to do something similar in my living room muhaha.gif
MickRaider
Actually I wouldn't be that surprised if that actually makes the system run hotter.
Exige_
To top it off you should just put a huge fan in front of it lol
The_Doctor
is that.... hung on a wall?
GamerBR
QUOTE(Mholt215 @ Nov 27 2008, 03:14 AM) *

LOL So true, and yea it is pretty cool.. Probably helps with the cooling issue a lot haha Whats mounting it to the wood?

It's a lot cooler,as you you see in the picture I was running the fans from the fan pins without any mod to increase the voltage,I checked the voltage during playing and it would never go above 5.4v,I thought it was too little and soldered the wires to 12v and ground and using a potentiometer to give a voltage of 7.5V to the fans,now the heatpipe barely gets warm to the touch.

The wood boards are being hang by a screw on the wall,the dvd drive is being hold by [a lot of] scotch tape,the motherboard is being hold by 5 hanger screws with a nut on the side of the motherboard and a nut on the other side of the wood board.The hard disk is also being gold by scotch tape,so do the fans laugh.gif
QUOTE(Exige_ @ Nov 27 2008, 06:41 AM) *

To top it off you should just put a huge fan in front of it lol

That would be difficult to put,I wouldn't have where to suport it,and it would be worse as it would have a significant distance from the gpu,this setups gives better temps tongue.gif
QUOTE(MickRaider @ Nov 27 2008, 05:28 AM) *

Actually I wouldn't be that surprised if that actually makes the system run hotter.

I'm sure it doesn't,and how could it run any hotter?
QUOTE(Dizzan @ Nov 27 2008, 05:27 AM) *

Are you sure you're getting enough airflow?

j/k.. that's pretty funny man. it reminds me of when i was doing mods on my 360 and had all the parts layed out across my workbench while it was running. I always thought about just bolting it to some plexi or somethin and making a mount for fans.

pretty sweet.. as long as it works just fine, it's a good mod. kinda makes me want to do something similar in my living room muhaha.gif

I could have used plexiglass,it would be nicer,but less ghetto laugh.gif
thcmagus
Like MickRaider said your box will most likely run hotter now because your not channeling the air across anything.. or it might run cooler but dirt is going to be a big issue for you as well. If your going to power those extra fans just chop up an old 12v adapter. Also static discharge is going to be an issue for you as well.. it doesnt take much electro static discharge to take a component down. All in all I would suggest putting it back in the box and just buying a nyko intercooler .. They have newer versions that wont burn your house up.. Ive been using one for a long time and never have cooling issues.
PezDispenser
You could be right about static discharge, I guess.

My PC has run for years with no side door on ---the only trouble I have with dust is that it collects on the heatsink fins and fan blades.

I'd recommend going over the 360 with a can of air every 6 weeks or so, more like every 2 weeks if you get very high humidity...

Since it's all open anyway, I think I would be looking at huge replacement heatsinks, myself. It should be no problem to get one that makes it possible to just use the 5v fan. This could easily be quieter than even a water-cooled mod.

I really am partial to this "ghetto" look, though. cool.gif

It's more interesting, to me, than the ones where guys make the top of the dvd drive a window or window the air ducting. Of course, the dvd window would also go better with yours than any other mod I've seen...

I'd also be tempted to do a big window, for the big "broad" side, move the fans to the top and bottom, and wrap it all in wire mesh (super-fine wire for the window). It would protect the hardware against flying objects & static, but keep the same basic look. --but that could also totally mess up your cooling dynamic.
GamerBR
QUOTE(thcmagus @ Nov 27 2008, 06:35 PM) *

Like MickRaider said your box will most likely run hotter now because your not channeling the air across anything.. or it might run cooler but dirt is going to be a big issue for you as well. If your going to power those extra fans just chop up an old 12v adapter. Also static discharge is going to be an issue for you as well.. it doesnt take much electro static discharge to take a component down. All in all I would suggest putting it back in the box and just buying a nyko intercooler .. They have newer versions that wont burn your house up.. Ive been using one for a long time and never have cooling issues.

Why I would tunnel any air if the fan is directly over the heatsink?It's like saying that any computer cooler sucks...I would love to know the theory behing the fear of static discharge on the board,the only parts that are touching the wood board are the screws holding the heatsinkinks and the hanger screws through the screw holes,which like all screws holes of the entire board,are grounded.

QUOTE(PezDispenser @ Nov 27 2008, 10:29 PM) *

You could be right about static discharge, I guess.

My PC has run for years with no side door on ---the only trouble I have with dust is that it collects on the heatsink fins and fan blades.

I'd recommend going over the 360 with a can of air every 6 weeks or so, more like every 2 weeks if you get very high humidity...

Since it's all open anyway, I think I would be looking at huge replacement heatsinks, myself. It should be no problem to get one that makes it possible to just use the 5v fan. This could easily be quieter than even a water-cooled mod.

I really am partial to this "ghetto" look, though. cool.gif

It's more interesting, to me, than the ones where guys make the top of the dvd drive a window or window the air ducting. Of course, the dvd window would also go better with yours than any other mod I've seen...

I'd also be tempted to do a big window, for the big "broad" side, move the fans to the top and bottom, and wrap it all in wire mesh (super-fine wire for the window). It would protect the hardware against flying objects & static, but keep the same basic look. --but that could also totally mess up your cooling dynamic.

The idea of my mod was just to keep it simple,not like you are suggesting laugh.gif .About dust,I know I will have to do some cleaning often,but at least I'm able to see how much dust there is on the board,unlike when it's inside the case,mine will probably require more cleaning,but will be cleaner than most PCs and 360s of people who never open the case(most of them).
GamerBR
double post...
thcmagus
Well.. you put your pc in a case so you can channel the air the way you want.. cool air in and hot air out.. with your current setup there is no conventional air flow.. it just takes what ever is around it and ejects the hot air around the same place.. I wasnt trying to be rude its just part of the reasoning behind the case.

Yeah and the static discharge isnt a huge concern but its there.. and whats worse about it is that failure from a static discharge isnt always right away.. so its hard to determine.
GamerBR
QUOTE(thcmagus @ Nov 28 2008, 01:33 AM) *

Well.. you put your pc in a case so you can channel the air the way you want.. cool air in and hot air out.. with your current setup there is no conventional air flow.. it just takes what ever is around it and ejects the hot air around the same place.. I wasnt trying to be rude its just part of the reasoning behind the case.

Yeah and the static discharge isnt a huge concern but its there.. and whats worse about it is that failure from a static discharge isnt always right away.. so its hard to determine.

This setup is required on enclosed cases,well...because they are enclosed.Without the help of fans to get the hot air out the cooling would suck,like I did there is no reason to do that.The setup I'm using with the fans are the same that most coolers are
Random pic
IPB Image
Where is the difference?
MickRaider
The 360 heatsinks are not designed to have a fan pulling air from the top. You can see from that heatsink that the fins are spaced out further to help with turbulent flow coming from the fan itself. This would mean in a thin-fin heatsink like the 360 is optimized for a less turbulent state of airflow, which is the whole point of the fan duct, to directionalize the air flow and decrease turbulence through the heat sinks. This allows for faster air flow and more mass flow through the heatsinks providing better cooling.

Although the turbulence might not be as bad as I predict it would be, but without thermocouples measuring the temperature of your heatsinks I really don't think you can safely say that you've improved the cooling. I've been wrong before, but I don't think you want me to be right either smile.gif
PezDispenser
QUOTE(MickRaider @ Nov 28 2008, 02:19 PM) *

The 360 heatsinks are not designed to have a fan pulling air from the top. You can see from that heatsink that the fins are spaced out further to help with turbulent flow coming from the fan itself. This would mean in a thin-fin heatsink like the 360 is optimized for a less turbulent state of airflow, which is the whole point of the fan duct, to directionalize the air flow and decrease turbulence through the heat sinks. This allows for faster air flow and more mass flow through the heatsinks providing better cooling.

Although the turbulence might not be as bad as I predict it would be, but without thermocouples measuring the temperature of your heatsinks I really don't think you can safely say that you've improved the cooling. I've been wrong before, but I don't think you want me to be right either smile.gif


You could be correct, but my guess is that the big difference here, between turbulent and streamlined air-flow will mostly be noise --he's not drawing already heated air over/through anything. He's also got natural hot air-convection to move a bit of air through the normal way.

This is part of why I'd change the heat-sinks, though. If you're not trying to squeeze into the 360 casing & under the dvd drive, why not just have a massive one? --especially if you can do it for a decent price and it looks as good?

Oh, you may want to make sure that there's a gap on the underside of the motherboard, too. Maybe it's just one of those urban legends, but several people have doe a mod to make sure the spots under the heat-sinks get air movement for cooling. It just seems like a sound concept, to me.

I don't mean to pressure you, GamerBR, I personally think of these kind of posts as something to balance the "Damn! that's ugly, it stinks..." posts. (Not that you've had too many of those.)
GamerBR
QUOTE(PezDispenser @ Nov 28 2008, 07:14 PM) *

You could be correct, but my guess is that the big difference here, between turbulent and streamlined air-flow will mostly be noise --he's not drawing already heated air over/through anything. He's also got natural hot air-convection to move a bit of air through the normal way.

This is part of why I'd change the heat-sinks, though. If you're not trying to squeeze into the 360 casing & under the dvd drive, why not just have a massive one? --especially if you can do it for a decent price and it looks as good?

Oh, you may want to make sure that there's a gap on the underside of the motherboard, too. Maybe it's just one of those urban legends, but several people have doe a mod to make sure the spots under the heat-sinks get air movement for cooling. It just seems like a sound concept, to me.

I don't mean to pressure you, GamerBR, I personally think of these kind of posts as something to balance the "Damn! that's ugly, it stinks..." posts. (Not that you've had too many of those.)

About the heatsinks I would love to have one if I could make one here for an affordable price,which I can't(take a look of my location under my nick tongue.gif ),adapting one is not an easy thing to do as I'm relying in the pressure of the heatsink on the gpu to make the solder be in the right place with the clamp mod.
As I mentioned in the post about static not worrying me,there is a gap between the motherboard and wood board and the only parts of the motherboard touching the board are the screws holes that are grounded.

I'm using a thermocouple now to see the termperatures I get according to the fan voltage,I've already measured with 7.5V and the top temperature while playing GTA for about 30 minutes was 45°C(with ambient temperature being 24.4°C),I'm now going to measure it at 5.4V and 12V(keep it at 12v is out of question,too much noise mad.gif )
GamerBR
Done
5.4v-48°C
7.5v-45°C
11.75v-41°C(using the potentiometer,didn't want to have to undo the connections to connect them directly to the board)
GamerBR
Some minor modifications,hot glue to the wood board and dvd drive to make it more stable and the fan controller tongue.gif
IPB Image
haris2887
lolz...
you said a case mod but i actually don't see a CASE...
lolz well done..
paul91
Haha, this is so good, words just can't describe the sheer awesomeness of this case. I'd like to see your visitors face when they find out that, that thing on the wall is your xbox 360 biggrin.gif
licenz2kill
Is that dvd drive hot glued to the wall?
Innovative! cool.gif
majikmaynayz
This is really cool and very creative!
Millerboy3
all i can say.....

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif huh.gif uhh.gif
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2013 Invision Power Services, Inc.