onlysublime
Jul 5 2009, 02:05 AM
Hi,
I'm trying to figure out why my games that were advertised as having widescreen options or 720P or 1080i options don't work on my xboxes. For years, I was going with softmodded xboxes that were done with SID 2.0.
the video options work beautifully for xbmc, unleashx, avalaunch, etc. just not in games. people were telling me i should be able to run some of my xbox games in 16:9 and some of them in 720p.
I did a lot of research in these and other forums and some other people said you have to set it in the original MS dash.
But I no longer have access to the original MS dash. When I go to the ms dash option in unleashX, it says the msdash.xbe is not available.
I then read that a newer version of unleashx would work so i updated to Unleashx V0.39.0528a Build 584. still no change in games like halo 2.
then i tried to use the latest AID v4.50 Final and removed the SID softmod and replaced it with the dual boot softmod > Hacked Dash / Softmod Menu > Standard for HD
i still can't boot into ms dash. the splash screens for unleashx and sid are new.
i got another ms dash from ms-dash-mik3h and put it in the apps folder. tried running it from the file explorer and got it to run. then tried running a game. still no change.
i have no clue what to do. can anyone help?
Heimdall
Jul 5 2009, 02:21 AM
You have to bypass virtual eeprom before enabling HD. Put a small text file called eeprom_off.bin in E:\NKP11\ (doesn't matter what's in the file, it just has to exist) then reboot your Xbox and change the resolution in MS-Dash. Reboot, delete eeprom_off.bin, reboot again, and you should have HD available.
onlysublime
Jul 5 2009, 08:14 AM
QUOTE(Heimdall @ Jul 4 2009, 09:21 PM)

You have to bypass virtual eeprom before enabling HD. Put a small text file called eeprom_off.bin in E:\NKP11\ (doesn't matter what's in the file, it just has to exist) then reboot your Xbox and change the resolution in MS-Dash. Reboot, delete eeprom_off.bin, reboot again, and you should have HD available.
Thanks so much for the reply! I tried to follow your instructions. But there's no E:\NKP11 folder. So I created one and then created that eeprom_off.bin text file in that directory. rebooted the xbox. tried to load ms-dash. still can't load it.
i'm so sorry for being such a n00b. but i'm grateful and i'll follow whatever advise you give.
bc54
Jul 5 2009, 08:44 AM
hi, i think i can help.
you have the sid5.0 softmod, right? thats the one in the latest aid. from your description, if you turn on your xbox with the eject button, and leave the tray open until fully booted, you will end up in the sid menu. here you can turn off the softmod, remove it, etc. in this state the eject led will be red.
when you boot this way (eject button and tray open), the virtual eeprom and virtual c drive will be bypassed, from this menu, i think there is a file browser. use that to launch ms dash (C:\xb1xdash.xbe, i think).
from there you can change to hi-def and widescreen mode (i think it automatically changes to widescreen when you put it in HD, but im not sure)
hope i could help.
ps- sid5.0 isnt really "supported" by most people on these forums. most people here swear by krayzies ndure (or kingroach's ndure), so you might want to consider using cash to upgrade to krayzies.
onlysublime
Jul 5 2009, 08:56 AM
thanks for the reply!
yes, i have the sid5.0 softmod.
i tried your method and unfortunately it didn't work. i think somehow my ms backup got corrupted or something.
(first. my softmodded xbox has an upgraded hard drive (maxtor 160gb). it was upgraded thru chimps. so i'm pretty sure it doesn't have the eeprom backup because it's not needed with that program. i did use xboxhdm once on my other softmodded xbox and it was a nightmare.)
so i turned on the xbox with the tray open and got to the sid menu.
i then went to the file manager and loaded the xb1xdash.xbe file from drive c:
it then loads, says "update complete. starting updated title. " and then it dumps me back to the softmod installer deluxe V menu.
i've heard of this ndure stuff but never tried it before. you have to pay for it? my first start with softmodding was thru a guide on lifehacker that i've since found out was based on an older guide and it was SID 2.0. worked great for me until i found out there were xbox games in widescreen and games in 720p/1080i.
QUOTE(bc54 @ Jul 5 2009, 03:44 AM)

hi, i think i can help.
you have the sid5.0 softmod, right? thats the one in the latest aid. from your description, if you turn on your xbox with the eject button, and leave the tray open until fully booted, you will end up in the sid menu. here you can turn off the softmod, remove it, etc. in this state the eject led will be red.
when you boot this way (eject button and tray open), the virtual eeprom and virtual c drive will be bypassed, from this menu, i think there is a file browser. use that to launch ms dash (C:\xb1xdash.xbe, i think).
from there you can change to hi-def and widescreen mode (i think it automatically changes to widescreen when you put it in HD, but im not sure)
hope i could help.
ps- sid5.0 isnt really "supported" by most people on these forums. most people here swear by krayzies ndure (or kingroach's ndure), so you might want to consider using cash to upgrade to krayzies.
bc54
Jul 5 2009, 09:10 AM
ok.
that means that xb1xdash.xbe is the live dash, i think.
if i recall correctly, i think you can change to HD from unleashx, and the sid menu is unleash.'
so boot up the sid menu with eject, got to system -> settings (or whatever it is), then select video display. the first two options should be enable 480p and 720p. change these options to yes. then later down you can change it to widescreen, but i think it changes automatically with HD. dont use 1080i because it is hard on your xbox.
QUOTE
i've heard of this ndure stuff but never tried it before. you have to pay for it? my first start with softmodding was thru a guide on lifehacker that i've since found out was based on an older guide and it was SID 2.0. worked great for me until i found out there were xbox games in widescreen and games in 720p/1080i.
lol. no by cash i meant Cereal killas automated softmod helper. to switch to krayzies ndure with cash, boot up to sid menu, so your virtual junk is bypassed. then insert the cash cd/dvd, and upgrade to krazies ndure 1.1.1 from "other softmod". but this will format your c and e drives, so you will lose that data. i personally think that sid5.0 isnt as terrible as previous sids, so its not super important you switch, just that you will find more support here for krayzies/kingroach's ndure.
onlysublime
Jul 5 2009, 09:44 AM
okay, thanks for your patience. no dice. i followed your steps. i then stuck in halo 2 in the drive and rebooted. still 4:3. also tried out a couple other games advertised as 16:9. no go.
if i don't get this solved, i'll switch to krazyzies. but i have a question about that too. my hard drive is upgraded. how will i handle the switch or will the helper take care of that? i used the chimps method which cloned my first modded 8GB hard drive to my 160 GB hard drive. no eeprom backup involved. no xboxhdm involved.
QUOTE(bc54 @ Jul 5 2009, 04:10 AM)

ok.
that means that xb1xdash.xbe is the live dash, i think.
if i recall correctly, i think you can change to HD from unleashx, and the sid menu is unleash.'
so boot up the sid menu with eject, got to system -> settings (or whatever it is), then select video display. the first two options should be enable 480p and 720p. change these options to yes. then later down you can change it to widescreen, but i think it changes automatically with HD. dont use 1080i because it is hard on your xbox.
lol. no by cash i meant Cereal killas automated softmod helper. to switch to krayzies ndure with cash, boot up to sid menu, so your virtual junk is bypassed. then insert the cash cd/dvd, and upgrade to krazies ndure 1.1.1 from "other softmod". but this will format your c and e drives, so you will lose that data. i personally think that sid5.0 isnt as terrible as previous sids, so its not super important you switch, just that you will find more support here for krayzies/kingroach's ndure.
Heimdall
Jul 5 2009, 11:01 AM
QUOTE(onlysublime @ Jul 5 2009, 08:14 AM)

Thanks so much for the reply! I tried to follow your instructions. But there's no E:\NKP11 folder. So I created one and then created that eeprom_off.bin text file in that directory. rebooted the xbox. tried to load ms-dash. still can't load it.
Hang on - in your original post you said you COULD load MS Dash, from E:\Apps\. Adding E:\NKP11\eeprom_off.bin will make no difference to your ability to run MS Dash. So, add eeprom_off.bin then run MS-Dash as you did originally and use it to set the video modes.
QUOTE
that means that xb1xdash.xbe is the live dash, i think.
No, you were right first time - xb1xdash.xbe is the stock 5960 MS Dash renamed, in the same way that Kingroach and Krayzie rename it xb0xdash.xbe.
bc54
Jul 5 2009, 12:51 PM
Duh!!
I just realized something. You said that you installed your Sid5.0 with hacked dash / Sid menu > standard for HD, right?
That means you have no virtual eeprom or virtual c. It also might explain why you can't boot ms dash.
Tell me, when you installed this softmod, did you reboot, to find a Sid like menu saying it had to fill the virtual c, or something like that?
Here's is a definitive way to check if you have a virtual c and eeprom, boot normally and look at the c drive, it should look completely stock. Now boot. To Sid and look at the c drive, it should look different if you have a virtual setup. There should be a folder named Sid. If the c drive looks exactly the same from both ways, then you DON'T have a virtual c and eeprom.
I can't help much the about the HD issue, but it clears somethings up a bit
onlysublime
Jul 5 2009, 06:57 PM
I put the whole MS dash folder in apps. I didn't make any changes to the files. I can load this ms dash thru the file explorer by loading xboxdash.xbe
i can't load ms dash thru the unleash menu option. sorry for my confusion.
but i after i added the eeprom_off.bin file to the E:\NKP11 directory that I made, I went to file explorer and loaded the xboxdash.xbe program. i then went to video options and widescreen, 1080i, and 720p were set. i then tried halo2 and a couple others. still no widescreen...

this is driving me crazy. the only thing keeping me from giving up is you guys. thanks.
QUOTE(Heimdall @ Jul 5 2009, 06:01 AM)

Hang on - in your original post you said you COULD load MS Dash, from E:\Apps\. Adding E:\NKP11\eeprom_off.bin will make no difference to your ability to run MS Dash. So, add eeprom_off.bin then run MS-Dash as you did originally and use it to set the video modes.
No, you were right first time - xb1xdash.xbe is the stock 5960 MS Dash renamed, in the same way that Kingroach and Krayzie rename it xb0xdash.xbe.
hi, i booted normally. i went to file explorer. there is a SID folder and a SID5 folder.
i booted to the sids softmod menu, went back to file explorer and there was no changes.
and i don't remember setting any virtual eeprom or virtual c.
QUOTE(bc54 @ Jul 5 2009, 07:51 AM)

Duh!!
I just realized something. You said that you installed your Sid5.0 with hacked dash / Sid menu > standard for HD, right?
That means you have no virtual eeprom or virtual c. It also might explain why you can't boot ms dash.
Tell me, when you installed this softmod, did you reboot, to find a Sid like menu saying it had to fill the virtual c, or something like that?
Here's is a definitive way to check if you have a virtual c and eeprom, boot normally and look at the c drive, it should look completely stock. Now boot. To Sid and look at the c drive, it should look different if you have a virtual setup. There should be a folder named Sid. If the c drive looks exactly the same from both ways, then you DON'T have a virtual c and eeprom.
I can't help much the about the HD issue, but it clears somethings up a bit
bc54
Jul 6 2009, 12:29 AM
ok that means you dont have any virtual c or vitual eeprom.
that doesnt explain why you cant change to widescreen/HD, but it does eliminate the virtual eeprom as the reason why.
ok, so first make sure you have the requirements for widescreen/HD
you HAVE to have a widescreen tv for widescreen mode. (widescreen mode just uses images the are horizontally compressed, so when your widescreen tv strachtes them they maintain proper aspect ratio)
you HAVE to have a Hi-Def tv, Hi-Def a/v cables (red, blue, and green ends), and if your cable is capable of standard def and hi def, there should be a switch or something to switch between the two. set that switchto HD. (i think that if you dont have HD cables connected, ms dash wont let you enable 480p/720p; it will be "greyed out")
if you want, you can pretty easily restore you xbox to a clean softmod with cash. if you do this you will have krayzies ndure and youll find a lot more people will be able to help you here. but if you do, your C and E drive will be formatted (but not F or G), so you will want to back up any apps, music, pictures, whatever to your f/g drive (or computer to be extra safe) until after your done.
onlysublime
Jul 6 2009, 02:21 AM
LOL. flashbacks to diagnosing problems for my friend who said, my computer won't turn on. and i asked, is it plugged in? and lo an behold, the power cable was loose.
yes. i have a widescreen tv. the xbox is hooked up thru monster component cables. i also have the official microsoft hd component cable pack (the black box with the components coming off it) which i tried as well. i played around with different aspect ratio settings and can definitely tell it's not the aspect ratio issue.
as for using cash, will it allow me to go from the current 160GB hard drive? or do I have to start with my original 8GB? i have no problems formatting it since i've already formatted it recently. i installed the ms dash according to the AID instructions but didn't read the part that i needed to install the sid before restarting, thus ended up at the error 21 screen. had to recopy my 8GB hard drive to my 160GB hard drive. a big mess.
also, I have never heard of these other methods. can you point me in a direction and where to start? when the xbox first came out, i was interesting in modding, but all the high tech talk threw me off. then a few years later, i saw an easy guide in lifehacker and decided to jump in.
the worst part about the internet is everything is kept in perpetuity. so i've read countless guides and methods, only to find out the guide was using was obsolete. like recently, i grabbed a cheap 360 hd-dvd drive for $20 and started buying hd-dvd's for ripping for less than $10 each (Transformers was $2). so i was searching for guides on how to rip to the PC before the drive dies. and i'm using one guide and getting stuck because the arguments weren't working for the CLI program. only to find out the newer version of the program changed all the arguments and it was an outdated guide anyway.
i have another question: can i simply unlock my hard drive, stick it in a pc, copy the files so that i don't have to go the slow ftp route? wait a sec... forgot about the fatx thing... nothing to see here. move along...
QUOTE(bc54 @ Jul 5 2009, 07:29 PM)

ok, so first make sure you have the requirements for widescreen/HD
you HAVE to have a widescreen tv for widescreen mode. (widescreen mode just uses images the are horizontally compressed, so when your widescreen tv strachtes them they maintain proper aspect ratio)
you HAVE to have a Hi-Def tv, Hi-Def a/v cables (red, blue, and green ends), and if your cable is capable of standard def and hi def, there should be a switch or something to switch between the two. set that switchto HD. (i think that if you dont have HD cables connected, ms dash wont let you enable 480p/720p; it will be "greyed out")
if you want, you can pretty easily restore you xbox to a clean softmod with cash. if you do this you will have krayzies ndure and youll find a lot more people will be able to help you here. but if you do, your C and E drive will be formatted (but not F or G), so you will want to back up any apps, music, pictures, whatever to your f/g drive (or computer to be extra safe) until after your done.
onlysublime
Jul 6 2009, 03:38 AM
Okay, I've downloaded CASH 1.1. is there a newer version out there?
Programs Included with the Full Install
* EvoX 3935
* UnleashX 0.39.0222A
* Avalaunch 0.49.3
* XBMC CVS 2006-09-18 T3CH build
* Dvd2XboX 0.7.7
* boXplorer 0.96beta
* DVDX
* HDDLoader 1.3a
* Emulators
* A2600
* AdamX
* Neogenisis
* Surreal 64
* pcsxbox
* Snes9x
bc54
Jul 6 2009, 04:14 AM
ok. here are some answers.
yes, you can use cash to switch to cash on your 160gb hard drive.
XBMC included with cash is old. you can upgrade the xbmc on the disc, or on your hard drive after the upgraqde. if you want to upgrade the one on disc, get the latest t3ch or latest t3ch stable. then, use one of the xbox iso extraction programs to extract the cash1.1. simply replace the folder Cash1.1/dashs/xbmc/xbmc with the xbmc folder in the t3ch download.
then, build an xbox iso and burn it to a disc that your xbox will read (dvd+rw will usually work for most people).
then, make sure you can ftp to your xbox, you WILL need it. insert the disc into your xbox and coldboot it.
1st backup your eeprom and ftp it to your computer, it can save your xbox,so keep it safe.
2nd select "5)I am softmodded w/Some Other Softmod". then select "B)Stock+Ndure v1.1.1 NTSC Gamesaves" (or pal if its pal)
3rd NOW, VERY VERY IMPORTANT. ftp to your xbox and look at the E drive. i dont know why, but for me the gamesaves never installed correctly, it might be because i messed with files before, but just double check. you need to see the folders "TDATA" and "UDATA". look in "UDATA", and there should be the folders "4541000d", "4d530017", "5553000c", and "21585554". if they are not there, do the following.
a.in the ftp client, go to the d drive, then krayzies > ndure1.1
b. download the contents of the folders "007", M"A", "SC-NTSC" (or "SC-PAL" if your xbox is pal) to your computer.
c. navigate to E:\UDATA and upload the folders you just downloaded.
d. your E:\UDATA should appear like described above.
4th in cash, select "D)Run Ndure v1.1.1 Installer Now". another evolutionx dash will be loaded allowing you to select which save to load. (if the only option you are allowed to select is return to main menu or something, follow a-d in step 3.) if you have one opf the games, select that gamesave, if not it does not matter.
5th you will now be in krayzies installer. you should eject the cash cd/dvd now. it is a super simple installation, you wont need a guide for it. once krayzies is done installing, you will reboot and when your dash loads again, it will talk about filling the shadowc. just follow through and you will reboot again. now you will finally be softmodded with krayzies ndure.
6th now reinsert cash, select "2)I am softmodded w/Krayzies Ndure v1.1.1". then select "C)Install Krayzies Extras". it will install krayzies extras, which will allow you to customize/tweak your softmod. (like change to a .06 setup, so your hard drive is f only, or switch to a dual boot.)
onlysublime
Jul 6 2009, 04:44 AM
Okay, I've burned the CASH DVD and run it.
I made an eeprom backup on your PC.
Boot the CASH disc in the xbox.
Selected option “5. I’m softmodded w/some other Softmod”.
chose the option “B. Stock+Ndure v1.1.1 NTSC gamesaves”
chose Krayzies installer
chose the splinter cell exploit.
now i'm stuck. i'm following the cash guide up to the point where it says to continue with krayzie's instructions and then go back to CASH when the softmod is done. i read thru the readme's for krayzie's and am not sure what to do.
i'm at the main screen where it says
1st backup eeprom
copy eeprom
minimum install
basic install
upgraded from 1.0
restore from rescue disc
switch menu
settings
since my xbox seems messy from having first sid 2.0, then sid 5.0, and now trying krayzie's i want a clean setup. plus, right now, my 160 GB hard drive is in the system.
bc54
Jul 6 2009, 05:16 AM
ok. 1st, dont worry, because of cash you xbox is totally clean (well the c and e drives are)
then, krayzies requires you backup eeprom. so do that.
then select "Basic install" then chose unleashx dashboard.
other than that it is almost entirely automated.
sorry, i forgot to explain the difference between minimal and basic. minimal will almost always work perfectly, because it basicly removes some ms dash files. that way you dont need a clkean 5960 dash. since you used cash, it installed a clean 5960 dash, so you want basic.
question, did you have to ftp the saves like i did? i think it was just me, but i want to know for sure.
onlysublime
Jul 6 2009, 06:10 AM
QUOTE(bc54 @ Jul 6 2009, 12:16 AM)

question, did you have to ftp the saves like i did? i think it was just me, but i want to know for sure.
i'm not sure what this means.
it didn't ask mean to ftp the saves if that's what you're asking.
i didn't ftp the saves on my own beforehand if that's what you mean.
i did Select option “5. I’m softmodded w/some other Softmod”.
chose the option “B. Stock+Ndure v1.1.1 NTSC gamesaves”
but never verified what happened (wouldn't even know where to start).
anyway, i followed your instructions and am at the unleashx dashboard. i'm a happy camper so far! i can boot to the ms dashboard from the unleashx menu. i'll have to check on the widescreen, 720p, 1080i options in games later. i'm supposed to be studying for a major exam but when i heard some of my games are supposed to be in widescreen, it drove me crazy wanting to fix it. i can't believe i went years without knowing my setup was not a good one.
now i feel really really really stupid for asking this, but now am i softmodded with krayzies ndure v1.1.1?
is there an easy way to check?
if all this works out in the end, i'm happy. but i'm not looking forward to ripping all my games to the hard drive again. it took forever and i feel like all the ripping is killing my drive. ftp is such a slow option so i don't know if i want to do that. i just wish it was as easy as putting the xbox hd in my pc, copy over the games, redo the softmod, stick the drive in the pc, recopy the games back on the hard drive.
will let you know about the widescreen!
and bc54, Heimdall, and cerealkillajme, you guys are my new heroes!!!!okay, i'm looking around the cash 1.1 contents and it says
KrayziesNdurev1.1.1Installers
but then it says inside that Krayzie_SC-NTSC_Ndure_Installer_v1.1
so is my system at 1.1 or 1.1.1?
bc54
Jul 6 2009, 06:46 AM
dont worry, you have 1.1.1
1.1.1 is barely different from 1.1, so i dont know if you can physically tell, but yeah cash is a little confusing like that. just dont worry you have 1.1.1
QUOTE
i'm not sure what this means.
it didn't ask mean to ftp the saves if that's what you're asking.
i didn't ftp the saves on my own beforehand if that's what you mean.
i meant that when i used cash, it didnt copy the saves right, but it did it for you, it was just an error on my part.
QUOTE
if all this works out in the end, i'm happy. but i'm not looking forward to ripping all my games to the hard drive again. it took forever and i feel like all the ripping is killing my drive. ftp is such a slow option so i don't know if i want to do that. i just wish it was as easy as putting the xbox hd in my pc, copy over the games, redo the softmod, stick the drive in the pc, recopy the games back on the hard drive.
huh? so your games are on your computer, and you want to get them to your xbox hdd? or are you saying you want to copy your games to your computer then re-softmod (why? you now have a clean softmod) then copy your games back to your xbox hdd?
ok, finally, when you want to change to widescreen/HD, first just go to ms dash and change the settings. the xbmc and other dashes should be in HD, but when you cold boot games, they wont be in widescreen/hd. then launch krayzies extras, select professional mode. the xbox will reboot. nothing should be widescreen/hd right now, so launch ms dash and change the settings. then your DONE!!! everything should work fine now. congratulations.
onlysublime
Jul 6 2009, 09:17 AM
now i understand. all my saved games were wiped out as well. oh well. i think i archived them somewhere on my pc. but playing again will be a nice pain.
i'll have to try that krayzies extras because i was unable to get widescreen in any games again. this is driving me crazy.
are the krayzies extras on the CASH DVD? also, if i'm interpreting your instructions correctly, every time i cold boot games, i'll have to go thru those steps again?
oh, what i meant earlier about the pc is that it took me hours to rip all my games to the xbox via dvd2xbox. i have them on my other xboxes and some of them on my pc. so i wished there was a way to put the xbox hard drive in my pc so i could do a faster transfer than ripping all the games from dvd to xbox again. i know about ftp. but ftp is so slow compared to ide to ide transfer.
but at the very least, i have a better softmod than before. but for my other xboxes, if i can't get widescreen to work on this xbox with ndure, then i'll leave the others alone since all my xboxes do everything perfectly fine except play games in widescreen or 720p or 1080i. a better softmod does nothing for me if it doesn't improve functionality for what i want to do. xbmc works fine. avalaunch, dvd2xbox, etc. the games work run.
still a happy camper. plugging away, looking for the proverbial solution. i'll try out your solution and get back to ya. thanks!
QUOTE(bc54 @ Jul 6 2009, 01:46 AM)

i meant that when i used cash, it didnt copy the saves right, but it did it for you, it was just an error on my part.
huh? so your games are on your computer, and you want to get them to your xbox hdd? or are you saying you want to copy your games to your computer then re-softmod (why? you now have a clean softmod) then copy your games back to your xbox hdd?
ok, finally, when you want to change to widescreen/HD, first just go to ms dash and change the settings. the xbmc and other dashes should be in HD, but when you cold boot games, they wont be in widescreen/hd. then launch krayzies extras, select professional mode. the xbox will reboot. nothing should be widescreen/hd right now, so launch ms dash and change the settings. then your DONE!!! everything should work fine now. congratulations.
onlysublime
Jul 6 2009, 10:35 AM
okay, i loaded the cash dvd and selected the I’m softmodded w/Krayzies Ndure v1.1.1
i went on to choose Install Krayzies Ndure v1.1.1 Extras
i then rebooted the xbox.
went to apps. chose the krayzies extras.
now i'm at a screen with
launch extras
launch save
format options
copy extras from disc
copy apps from disc
copy emulators from disc
settings
if i choose launch extras, it's asking for some passcode. i entered the passcode, selected the professional mode.. and it sent me back to the main unleashx screen. i went to launch the ms dashboard and i'm left at a blank screen. am going to try out a few more things...
Heimdall
Jul 6 2009, 10:38 AM
AYBX
Heimdall
Jul 6 2009, 10:56 AM
Put eeprom_off.bin in E:\. Reboot, run MS Dash from C, set HD modes. Reboot, delete eeprom_off.bin from E. Reboot, launch Krayzie Extras, select "Update virtual eeprom". Reboot when you're done.
onlysublime
Jul 6 2009, 09:07 PM
QUOTE(Heimdall @ Jul 6 2009, 05:56 AM)

Put eeprom_off.bin in E:\. Reboot, run MS Dash from C, set HD modes. Reboot, delete eeprom_off.bin from E. Reboot, launch Krayzie Extras, select "Update virtual eeprom". Reboot when you're done.
Thanks Heimdall! will report back when i have a chance. immense pressure mounting due to my procrastinations.
onlysublime
Jul 7 2009, 10:00 AM
Hi,
I was wondering about the instructions of:
Put eeprom_off.bin in E:\. Reboot, run MS Dash from C, set HD modes. Reboot, delete eeprom_off.bin from E. Reboot, launch Krayzie Extras, select "Update virtual eeprom". Reboot when you're done.
can you guys explain to me the theory here? i'm trying to figure out if i want to play with various combinations of settings, do i have to repeat these procedures? for example, if i want to just enable 480p and widescreen. or enable 480p, 720p and widescreen, or enable only 720p and normal, etc. etc. do i have to repeat these steps?
i'm not understanding this virtual eeprom and shadow c and all this other stuff.
thanx for all your understanding and help! i think after getting an explanation for these steps, i'm going to have to do more research on this widescreen stuff. and more experimentation.
i read some posts that say you have to stretch the picture with the tv to have widescreen, but it seems kind of weird. plus, it makes the characters look fat. like stretching a 4:3 tv show. so i refuse to believe this is how widescreen is supposed to look for these supposed widescreen games. but oh well, at least i'm learning more about softmods...
Heimdall
Jul 7 2009, 11:58 AM
Enabling modes in the MS Dash doesn't force games etc. to use those modes, it allows them to use those modes. So, you should enable all the modes that your TV will support.
The games should then use the highest mode they are coded for. If that doesn't work there are further tweaks, for example to force the Xbox to run everything at 480p.
The easiest solution if you want to play around is to leave eeprom_off.bin in E:\, then tweak the settings until you are happy (but again, I's still suggest enabling all modes that your TV will support). Once you have it sorted, you can remove eeprom_off.bin, and update the virtual eeprom.
FYI, there is an easier way - while you have eeprom_off.bin in E, Go into Krayzie Extras professional mode and delete C:\eeprom.bin. That way the changes you make to the real eeprom (while virtual eeprom is disabled) will automatically be reflected in the virtual eeprom when you re-enable it - no need for the updating.
onlysublime
Jul 7 2009, 08:33 PM
Thanks for the info! very helpful!
the reason why i was asking was i read that Soul Calibur II would be in 16:9 mode if set to 480P but would be in 4:3 mode if set to 720P. so the user is having the tradeoff of having a widescreen game at 480P or a 4:3 game at the higher 720P resolution.
but then again, with all options set, i can't tell if the game is in 720P because it seems like it's a 640x480 game. so i'm going to play around with various settings and see the results.
i'll try out your second method (have eeprom_off.bin in E, Krayzie professional, etc). it just sounds a bit scary to delete the C:\eeprom.bin.
Oh, I was wondering if there's any theoretical basis for why the widescreen/resolution options would work in a nonmodded system and not in modded setup? because after reading various threads, it seems like all the people that never modded were having success. but then again, it may reflect the level of technical understanding. because some of these success stories said they used the tv to stretch the picture which to me makes it look fat.
QUOTE(Heimdall @ Jul 7 2009, 06:58 AM)

Enabling modes in the MS Dash doesn't force games etc. to use those modes, it allows them to use those modes. So, you should enable all the modes that your TV will support.
The games should then use the highest mode they are coded for. If that doesn't work there are further tweaks, for example to force the Xbox to run everything at 480p.
The easiest solution if you want to play around is to leave eeprom_off.bin in E:\, then tweak the settings until you are happy (but again, I's still suggest enabling all modes that your TV will support). Once you have it sorted, you can remove eeprom_off.bin, and update the virtual eeprom.
FYI, there is an easier way - while you have eeprom_off.bin in E, Go into Krayzie Extras professional mode and delete C:\eeprom.bin. That way the changes you make to the real eeprom (while virtual eeprom is disabled) will automatically be reflected in the virtual eeprom when you re-enable it - no need for the updating.
bc54
Jul 7 2009, 10:48 PM
everyone has that problem with soul calibur II. here is a quote from
http://www.hdgames.net:QUOTE
OXM confirms 720p support
Namco's japanese website confirms 16:9 support.
720p support 4:3 .480p support 16:9
Isn't 720p a 16:9 format only
Yes, yes it is. But it's strange. When you run in 720p mode, it creates a 4:3 image INSIDE the 16:9 format window. VERY strange.
So the image is the proper aspect ratio (no stretching), but window-boxed (black bars on the left and right of the image). Correct?
Correct.
Dose this game support 1080i?
No it doesn't support 1080i,this 720p issue is a real strange one?
16x9 Has nothing to do with progressive scan issues. A game can be 480p or 720p and NOT be 16x9. This game is 480p 16x9...and 720p 4x3.
If it was 4:3 format, then you'd be able to stretch the image to fill the TV screen. But it's not. It is actually 16:9 widescreen format with black bars. So the image cannot be stretched. There is no way of filling the screen
So basically the 720p "support" is showing a 480p window inside a 720p screen. How lame is that.
It's not just a "480p window inside a 720p screen", 960x720 (720p when 4:3) is a lot better than just 640x480 (480p 4:3/16:9). The reason for using only a portion of a whole 720p picture is propably to avoid low fps.
The 720p 4:3 solution is better than no 720p at all. And for those that don't want to play in 4:3 there is the option to use 480p in 16:9.
FINAL CONCLUSION:
480p support
16:9 support
720p support (picture has side bars slimming the picture)
DD 5.1
Quick question, what version is everyone referring too, a Japanese version or an unfinished US version. The last post was 2 months ago, so hopefully a finalized US version will also have the real 720p 16:9 option as well.
The final U.S. version has the same "problem" - no 720p/16:9 support. Namco dropped the ball on this one. >_<
Yep. I'm not about to have a widescreen only to have programmers limit me back to 4:3 again - even if it is for game performance reasons. Do it all the way or don't do it at all. Game companies need to stop half-assing things. Apart from that its a great game through!!
Well, for everyone hoping that the US release would support 720p in 16:9, it didn't happen. Just tried it last night and the formatting is the same. 720p is 4:3 only.... Very dissapointing.
if use an component/vga adapter, the image is half monitor at 720p, no problem with 480p
so in summary, 16:9 for 480p only, for the 720P crowd is 4:3 only.
Great game, great visuals : No other game looks sharper to me.
In 720p mode it plays in 4:3 for some reason. Graphical limits maybe? Still it looks better on 480p widescreen only because when in 720p the textures dont look as good...
720p set to Yes. 16:9 set to Yes. Beware 16:9 for 480p only, for the 720P crowd is 4:3 only.
2/16/2004@11:45:13 AM: Quick question: I just got a new widescreen hdtv set, and I'm used to playing the game in 4:3, but in 16:9 480p, the game looks streached, even with widescreen selected on the dashboard, and there's no option to widescreen on at the ingame option screen, anyone else notice this?
5/23/2004@12:55:59 AM: I have an HD 4:3 set and the image is still letterboxed. Bars on top and on the sides in 720p, creating a 4:3 window inside of a 4:3 set. There seems to be no apparent way of fixing this. Disappointing.
8/24/2004@3:35:47 PM: Texture resolution in the 480p 16:9 mode is horrible, very, VERY blurry (maybe a case of the lowest common denominator, to avoid slowdown in the PS2 version, that got carried over to GC and Xbox). It doesn't fill the whole screen, either. 4:3 480p looks fine, though.
so basicly that is not a good game to test widescreen with. try a different game. if you go to
http://www.hdgames.net, they will list all games and what video modes they support, and other stuff too.
onlysublime
Jul 8 2009, 02:42 AM
yeah, so far i've tested with 5 games on the widescreen list.
at this point, i think it's just a matter of playing with the settings per game and see what works, if any.
plus, i need to verify whether any of the 720p games are actually any different looking when compared to 480p to see if the resolution thing is working too.
right now, i'm debating on whether to switch my 3 other xboxes to the new softmod because formatting and recopying all those dvds again... is not a pleasing idea to say the least.
but at least i know how to do it, thanks to you guys!
QUOTE(bc54 @ Jul 7 2009, 05:48 PM)

everyone has that problem with soul calibur II. here is a quote from
http://www.hdgames.net:so basicly that is not a good game to test widescreen with. try a different game. if you go to
http://www.hdgames.net, they will list all games and what video modes they support, and other stuff too.
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