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senas8
I quote:
"FRIDAY, JANUARY 22, 2010

Hello hypervisor, I'm geohot
I have read/write access to the entire system memory, and HV level access to the processor. In other words, I have hacked the PS3. The rest is just software. And reversing. I have a lot of reversing ahead of me, as I now have dumps of LV0 and LV1.

3 years, 2 months, 11 days...thats a pretty secure system

Took 5 weeks, 3 in Boston, 2 here, very simple hardware cleverly applied, and some not so simple software.

Shout out to George Kharrat from iPhoneMod Brasil for giving me this PS3 a year and a half ago to hack. Sorry it took me so long smile.gif

As far as the exploit goes, I'm not revealing it yet. The theory isn't really patchable, but they can make implementations much harder. Also, for obvious reasons I can't post dumps. I'm hoping to find the decryption keys and post them, but they may be embedded in hardware. Hopefully keys are setup like the iPhone's KBAG."

A lot more to come...
Source:
geohotps3.blogspot.com
xcalixxryderx
Ive been following him for awhile on twitter and then on his ps3 blog but I thought it would take much longer since he said the security was way better than the iPhone. Great news since I missed the 360 bus.
kohr
Yeah, been following that blog.

If it's true, which I believe it is, considering that kid does have some achievements under his belt, that's pretty nice. Luckily I haven't updated my PS3 in quite awhile, so hopefully I'll be able to run homebrew on it, when the time comes. I updated my Xbox just before the jtag hack hit, so I was screwed with that, with the whole e-fuse thing. sad.gif

I'll be nice to have homebrew on the PS3, Shall we say "PS3 Media Center?" lol. laugh.gif
elitemods
That kid is a prodigy.
xcalixxryderx
Well He's not done yet. My understanding is that he has lv0 and lv1 dumps but still needs keys out of the spu. Without keys I dont think ps3 mode will run unsupervised. Unless someone wants to correct me on any of that.
Poopmonkey
Well, I don't own a ps3 but I'm glad the "where there's a will, there's a way" rule still applies.
XOR101
hmmm him not releasing anything is getting my OMGITSFAKE alarm off but this might be something smile.gif
senas8
QUOTE(XOR101 @ Jan 23 2010, 09:46 AM) *

hmmm him not releasing anything is getting my OMGITSFAKE alarm off but this might be something smile.gif


You do understand he still has a alot of reversing, getting the keys etc. Much work to be done. It's one thing to dump memory and another to reverse.
majik655
QUOTE(senas8 @ Jan 23 2010, 01:29 AM) *

You do understand he still has a alot of reversing, getting the keys etc. Much work to be done. It's one thing to dump memory and another to reverse.


Yes lots of work still to be done...but it will be fast if the info gets out. He does have FULL read AND write and controll of the processor. Now will he release the info so others can help. but still will be a while.
xboxjason
Great post. I was just reading about this on engadget.

Can we have an admin post this on the main page? I think it's about time, considering there hasn't been any PS3 posts in a long while. happy.gif
Asphixiate
QUOTE(XOR101 @ Jan 23 2010, 09:46 AM) *

hmmm him not releasing anything is getting my OMGITSFAKE alarm off but this might be something smile.gif


If you know who GeoHot is your alarm would not be going off. He is the one that released the initial iPhone hack then he also released the first hack for the iPhone OS 3.0. He released the iPhone 3.0 update against the will of the iPhone Dev team because they wanted to keep the hole private. His comment was screw that it is not how the game is played. We find a hole, release it...apple fixes it....he finds another.

He is a lot like Team Jungle only completely opposite. smile.gif
Ranger72
Make it ra1n GeoHot!

THIS is a worthy front page PS3Scen.com news. Mainly since there has been no new news on the front page for months.
wassco
Yeehaw! Go geohot!
XOR101
anyone can tell us what this is?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NJ4JFBfr1tY/S1uf...0-h/hvcalls.PNG
Spark
QUOTE(XOR101 @ Jan 24 2010, 10:38 AM) *



I think it is the log from the dumping the first levels of the hypervisor.

It is brilliant work and those calling BS on this should think again, the reason why nothing has been released is because there is nothing to release as of yet, but it will arrive and luckily in the case of the PS3 the ISO loaders etc already exist as people have been using those sorts of tools on dev units for a while now.

QUOTE(Asphixiate @ Jan 23 2010, 07:17 PM) *



He is a lot like Team Jungle only completely opposite. smile.gif


And that can only ever be a good thing.
Darkangel754
Just imagine the stuff people could make with the specs of the PS3; a Nulldc port could probably run great.

Quite a step up from the specs of the original xbox pop.gif
JoBlack
QUOTE(XOR101 @ Jan 24 2010, 10:38 AM) *


Looks like he's using IDA Pro ... hail to Ilfak.
Aldanga
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Jan 23 2010, 05:57 PM) *

Make it ra1n GeoHot!

THIS is a worthy front page PS3Scen.com news. Mainly since there has been no new news on the front page for months.

I concur wholeheartedly.

QUOTE(Spark @ Jan 24 2010, 06:46 AM) *

It is brilliant work and those calling BS on this should think again, the reason why nothing has been released is because there is nothing to release as of yet, but it will arrive and luckily in the case of the PS3 the ISO loaders etc already exist as people have been using those sorts of tools on dev units for a while now.
And that can only ever be a good thing.

Yep. That's how the game should be played.

I'm totally stoked for this. I was actually just thinking about getting myself a PS3 and lo and behold, this happens! I'm excited. smile.gif
PRiME2008
This is great but I wonder if Sony is preparing a letter atm that basically says if George Kharrat releases anything his family is screwed for life! ...

Anyway I would love to run Linux unlocked on the PS3 so you could access the Graphics and CPU chip, that would make for a decent linux system. Maybe you could even launch PS3 games from it.. heh Either way this will only help Sony as it drives sales for the consoles and causes it to become more popular thus increasing sales. Its not really even viable to make BluRay Backups atm so nothing to worry about.
Aldanga
I am *selfishly* wondering this and I figure a few are wondering it with me.

I wonder if George Hotz would be interested in hacking the unhackable post-JTAG-exploit-fix 360. If, after 3 weeks of research and 2 weeks of hands-on with a PS3 he's hacked it, imagine what he could do with a 360. I have all the respect in the world for Felix, but this kid is a freaking prodigy.

/sorta off topic
xcalixxryderx
well its released! Lookes really simple. lol @ the "pokemehere.jpg". Although timming 40ns might be a lil tough without hardware.
niai
lol its funny the 360 probably will not get xbmc and the ps3 almost defiantly will


he released it on his bolg now to smile.gif

openxdkman
Good code explanation article :
http://rdist.root.org/2010/01/27/how-the-p...sor-was-hacked/
(and grats geohot!)
Nerdz
"....Hello hypervisor, I'm geohot....."

This reminded me when Neo met the Architect in the Matrix...... cool.gif
robo989
QUOTE(Nerdz @ Jan 28 2010, 10:47 PM) *

"....Hello hypervisor, I'm geohot....."

This reminded me when Neo met the Architect in the Matrix...... cool.gif


Your username is quite fitting
GemCollins
QUOTE(robo989 @ Feb 2 2010, 08:09 PM) *

Your username is quite fitting

If this board had a reputation points system, you would've been a rich man
cerilli420
QUOTE(GemCollins @ Feb 13 2010, 10:13 PM) *

If this board had a reputation points system, you would've been a rich man

+1

does anyone know if anyones really trying to do something with this hack? im not asking if anythings coming out just wondering how many people are actually playing around with it
Plug
so much for ps3 hacking advancing lol, this thread has been erm idle for weeks.
XOR101
ok.......

IPB Image

http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/2010/03/custom-themes.html
murauder
cant wait for homebrew on the ps3
LiTHiUM0XiD3
QUOTE(XOR101 @ Jan 23 2010, 09:46 AM) *

hmmm him not releasing anything is getting my OMGITSFAKE alarm off but this might be something smile.gif


ye... maybe u should read up on geohot... or get an ipod touch/iphone... this kids a young genius
i wouldnt doubt a damn thing from him...(i <3 blackra1n) and u do realize releasing things publicly is the reason why all the mods get patched right? come on now... use that head for more than a hatrack tongue.gif

if it wasnt for every tom dick and harry tryin to flip DVD flashes (360 obviously) for $15 a piece... im sure iextreme 1.0 would work fine still...
Perfecteagle
QUOTE(Aldanga @ Jan 26 2010, 04:02 AM) *

I am *selfishly* wondering this and I figure a few are wondering it with me.

I wonder if George Hotz would be interested in hacking the unhackable post-JTAG-exploit-fix 360. If, after 3 weeks of research and 2 weeks of hands-on with a PS3 he's hacked it, imagine what he could do with a 360. I have all the respect in the world for Felix, but this kid is a freaking prodigy.

/sorta off topic


I agree. Hopefully it might happen sometime soon.
ddsdavey
QUOTE(LiTHiUM0XiD3 @ Mar 19 2010, 06:34 PM) *

if it wasnt for every tom dick and harry tryin to flip DVD flashes (360 obviously) for $15 a piece... im sure iextreme 1.0 would work fine still...

LMFAO no offence mate but do you honestly believe thats the case? M$ dont give a stuff about modders making money,well they probably do but thats not what drives them,its blatant copyright fraud using a modified version of there patented firmware to enable copied backups to boot and again infringing copyright.Ixtreme 1.0 would not still work fine at all,the fact theres so many revisions tells us they found lots of new things that could get you detected.How you managed to equate popularity with the ever increasing "Live" detection is beyond me also.Its gotten harder cause M$ caught onto it.
Whether 100 peopel or 100000 people did it M$ would STILL take the same time to solve it imo.
BoNg420
QUOTE(ddsdavey @ Mar 24 2010, 10:06 PM) *

LMFAO no offence mate but do you honestly believe thats the case? M$ dont give a stuff about modders making money,well they probably do but thats not what drives them,its blatant copyright fraud using a modified version of there patented firmware to enable copied backups to boot and again infringing copyright.Ixtreme 1.0 would not still work fine at all,the fact theres so many revisions tells us they found lots of new things that could get you detected.How you managed to equate popularity with the ever increasing "Live" detection is beyond me also.Its gotten harder cause M$ caught onto it.
Whether 100 peopel or 100000 people did it M$ would STILL take the same time to solve it imo.


Well they probably put more R&D into fixing the problems since it must obviously be a huge problem considering the "rumored" 360 bans. Also if you look at it, they ban all these xbox's, it makes their numbers for consoles go up, making it look like a fake demand for their product. So you probably get more investors and such and media, etc from the apparent good sales. I do think the number of 1 million seemed to be to rumorish, but you never know considering how many people in world have 360s now, but I imagine their last ban wave could of really been over 250k consoles.
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