Sunblood
Jan 23 2010, 11:27 PM
When running a multi-disc game straight from the HDD via XeXMenu, are there functions in place to emulate ejecting the disc and putting in a new one?
I know Lost Odyssey lets you save right before a disc change, so it'd be possible to exit to dash and load the next disc's default.xex, then load the save from there. I'm not sure yet how Mass Effect 2 will work and whether you need disc 2 at a certain story segment or if you need disc 2 to access just certain missions and swapping back and forth will be common.
confusedman09
Jan 23 2010, 11:49 PM
In mass effect, i put both disc files into one folder (letting it overwrite common files), works perfect. The one XEX works, and it doesnt even ask for a second disc.
iEzio
Jan 24 2010, 12:04 AM
That's really working? - WoW.
Is this working for every other title, too?
Would be great if this method will work with Final Fantasy XIII. =)
Sunblood
Jan 24 2010, 12:05 AM
QUOTE(confusedman09 @ Jan 23 2010, 04:49 PM)

In mass effect, i put both disc files into one folder (letting it overwrite common files), works perfect. The one XEX works, and it doesnt even ask for a second disc.

Are you sure you got to a point where it would have asked for the other disc?
This would be amazing if true.
confusedman09
Jan 24 2010, 12:14 AM
im just as amazed as you guys that it actually worked. I was about to burn it to a disc, when i thought lets give it a shot.
I am 100% sure i was at the disc switching point, as originally it was asking for a second disk, and then gave a dirt disc error straight away. I simply transferred the content from both discs into 1 folder, and overwrote any common files. Now the disk switch thing pops up for half a second, and I can continue playing. Not tried it with any other games yet.
hope i helped
jhoff80
Jan 24 2010, 12:29 AM
Hmm, that's interesting. I wonder if anyone could write up a guide of how to combine the two ME2 discs and make them into a Games on Demand container with Le Fluffie or something of that sort (if that will work even) because it'd be much more convenient for me (and I'd think others too).
Well, we'll see, still a week before I'll buy it.
Cerise
Jan 24 2010, 04:16 AM
The Mass Effect 2 disk change occurs at Illium. I didn't try the combined method; but I might ~ I just installed both disks and when the game asked for the second disk and crashed (Disk is Unreadable); I loaded the second disk and it loaded the auto-save made when I entered that Star System just fine. This is typical of Multi-disk Games; there's a good amount of overlap at the Disk Change point. Infinite Undiscovery was much the same.
danked
Jan 24 2010, 04:56 AM
Someone should test this with star ocean, cause at the end you can change disc at will.
ian_hard
Jan 24 2010, 05:51 AM
QUOTE(danked @ Jan 24 2010, 02:56 PM)

Someone should test this with star ocean, cause at the end you can change disc at will.
about to give it a go
ian_hard
Jan 24 2010, 07:01 AM
it cant be done the files are all the same on the discs so overwriteing common files ends up with one disc
savagepoop
Jan 28 2010, 06:42 AM
been trying to get this working now for the last few hours and its driving me mad...
i put all the files for both disks in the same folder, over wrote all common files but when i use xexmenu or any other dash to launch it i just get "error, this game could not be started"
ive tried copying the first disk then the second also tried copying the second disk then the first. niether way has worked.
any ideas as to what im doing wrong?
game in question is mass effect 2 and im trying to run from a usb hdd
Sunblood
Jan 28 2010, 07:21 AM
QUOTE(savagepoop @ Jan 27 2010, 11:42 PM)

been trying to get this working now for the last few hours and its driving me mad...
i put all the files for both disks in the same folder, over wrote all common files but when i use xexmenu or any other dash to launch it i just get "error, this game could not be started"
ive tried copying the first disk then the second also tried copying the second disk then the first. niether way has worked.
any ideas as to what im doing wrong?
game in question is mass effect 2 and im trying to run from a usb hdd
I extracted both discs to the same folder on my PC,
skipping any files that were already there. Move the whole folder to hdd1:\Games\Mass Effect 2 and I can run default.xex just fine from the XeXMenu main menu. Areas that require disc 2 will pop up "Please insert Disc 2" for a second, then it disappears and the area loads like normal.
savagepoop
Jan 28 2010, 07:48 AM
QUOTE(Sunblood @ Jan 28 2010, 06:21 AM)

I extracted both discs to the same folder on my PC, skipping any files that were already there. Move the whole folder to hdd1:\Games\Mass Effect 2 and I can run default.xex just fine from the XeXMenu main menu. Areas that require disc 2 will pop up "Please insert Disc 2" for a second, then it disappears and the area loads like normal.
im re ripping it as we speak as im hoping i just did a bad rip, almost done now tho so should be able to test in the next few mins. all my other games work fine so thats y this has stumped me....
savagepoop
Jan 28 2010, 10:38 AM
hmmm still dont work. just keep getting " the game cannot be started" i tried just putting one disk on the hdd and get same error. tried ripping and copying forza 3 across and that worked fine (it asked me to install disk 2 but i already had it on the hdd, is this normal?)
when my 3.5 inch drive arrives ill try it on there but if that dont work i got no idea whats wrong.
jihaut
Jan 28 2010, 12:17 PM
QUOTE(savagepoop @ Jan 28 2010, 09:38 AM)

hmmm still dont work. just keep getting " the game cannot be started" i tried just putting one disk on the hdd and get same error. tried ripping and copying forza 3 across and that worked fine (it asked me to install disk 2 but i already had it on the hdd, is this normal?)
when my 3.5 inch drive arrives ill try it on there but if that dont work i got no idea whats wrong.
Have you patched the .xex?
For both games?
omega232
Jan 28 2010, 12:49 PM
He shouldn't need to patch the xex unless he's running freeboot.
What are you trying to do? Copy it from dvd using the xbox to do it?
Extract both the iso's on your pc and drag and drop one folder into the other, doesn't matter which (dragging disc 1 into disc 2 will make it ask for disc 1 for a split secod and vice versa). Then just launch it from xexmenu.
dufc1983
Jan 28 2010, 01:00 PM
working on my external 500gb hard drive,all i did was rip disc 1 via xboxgamebrowser,created a folder in Games/Mass Effect 2 transferred it via ftp,did the same for disc 2 transferred via ftp selecting yes if it asks to replace any files
savagepoop
Jan 29 2010, 01:22 AM
QUOTE(dufc1983 @ Jan 28 2010, 12:00 PM)

working on my external 500gb hard drive,all i did was rip disc 1 via xboxgamebrowser,created a folder in Games/Mass Effect 2 transferred it via ftp,did the same for disc 2 transferred via ftp selecting yes if it asks to replace any files
been tryin all day and still no good, i dont get it. ive ripped my copy several times even tried downloading it to see if my rip was bad but still no luck... trying to patch the xex in xexmenu just makes it freeze. is there anyway to patch the xex in windows at all?
savagepoop
Jan 29 2010, 01:48 AM
well i solved the problem...
i removed the system update folder and now it boots fine.... added it back and it wont boot again so removed it and it works great now.
strange problem
now if i would have only thought of that 24 hours ago....
j005u
Jan 30 2010, 02:33 PM
Has anyone managed to complete the game with the combined method? It crashes for me when starting the suicide mission with "This disc is unreadable".
welly_59
Jan 30 2010, 02:41 PM
i finished it. didnt overwrite any files
hfmls
Jan 30 2010, 02:58 PM
guys do this:
creat for example mass effect 2 folder
copy all files from DVD1 to that folder
copy all files from DVD2 to that folder
if it asks if u want to overwrite any file when copying DVD2, say NO.
just let it copy all files without overwriting the ones you've already copied from DVD1.
that should work. here works.
if not, try the opposite. overwrite when asked.
for me it worked first way.
simonk83
Jan 30 2010, 09:38 PM
QUOTE(hfmls @ Jan 31 2010, 12:58 AM)

guys do this:
creat for example mass effect 2 folder
copy all files from DVD1 to that folder
copy all files from DVD2 to that folder
if it asks if u want to overwrite any file when copying DVD2, say NO.
just let it copy all files without overwriting the ones you've already copied from DVD1.
that should work. here works.
if not, try the opposite. overwrite when asked.
for me it worked first way.
I tried to do this last night but it just crashed with a black screen after I imported my ME1 character. That said though, I've had a few crashes.... I loaded MAME last night (no games in there, just to try it) and it crashed after I pressed a few buttons (the screen just freezes, won't respond to the guide button or anything).
DrexeL_UK
Jan 31 2010, 12:49 AM
This is how I got ME2 working:
1. Extracted Disc 1 to a folder on my PC.
2. Extracted Disc 2 to the same folder, overwriting EVERY common file, including default.xex
3. FTP'd said folder to the 360.
4. Created a quickboot shortcut.
Apart from crashing one time at the disc change prompt, the game is working flawlessly for me, it just flashes 'Insert Disc 1' occasionally then continues as normal. FWIW I'm running without a DVD drive attached, shouldn't make any difference but maybe it does?
bcordell70
Jan 31 2010, 01:41 AM
So if that works then you should also be able to create GOD file once both cd's are extracted and all common files are overwritten, then recreate a ISO then use with ISO2GOD ? Just thinking out loud.
jhoff80
Jan 31 2010, 01:46 AM
QUOTE(bcordell70 @ Jan 30 2010, 09:41 PM)

So if that works then you should also be able to create GOD file once both cd's are extracted and all common files are overwritten, then recreate a ISO then use with ISO2GOD ? Just thinking out loud.
I'm hoping so, that's my plan eventually as well.
HaloSlayer
Feb 5 2010, 09:12 AM
QUOTE
1. Extracted Disc 1 to a folder on my PC.
2. Extracted Disc 2 to the same folder, overwriting EVERY common file, including default.xex
3. FTP'd said folder to the 360.
I did this and when I try to start a new game it tells me to insert disc 1.
Did anyone have this issue?
Thanks
hfmls
Feb 5 2010, 10:50 AM
when copying disc2 when it asks for replace files, press skip
DrexeL_UK
Feb 5 2010, 10:57 AM
QUOTE(HaloSlayer @ Feb 5 2010, 08:12 AM)

I did this and when I try to start a new game it tells me to insert disc 1.
Did anyone have this issue?
Thanks
For me it just flashes up 'insert disc 1' for a split second then carries on
simonk83
Feb 5 2010, 12:21 PM
QUOTE(DrexeL_UK @ Feb 5 2010, 08:57 PM)

For me it just flashes up 'insert disc 1' for a split second then carries on

Yep, this is working for me now as well. All I did differently was copy disc 1 over disc 2 and chose to skip files, but I doubt it makes much difference. All works anyway
Doughboy3
Feb 6 2010, 02:45 AM
I'm trying to get Forza 3 working. The second disc, if browsed with wxPirs has a \Content\ folder, which I assumed could be copied to HDD, and then maybe unlocked through XM360, but no luck. It doesn't even show up in XM360. The second disc is meant to be installed onto the hard drive, adding the extra tracks and cars. Anyone have any ideas? Copying it into the same folder as the first disc doesn't work either.
DrexeL_UK
Feb 6 2010, 11:39 AM
What I did with Forza 3 was installed disc two from within the the game as you normally would. You have to run the main game from the DVD and not the HDD though, otherwise disc two wont install. Once you have installed disc two you can run the game from the HDD and it works fine

So, to clarify:
1. Run Forza 3 from DVD.
2. Choose 'install disc two' from the menu.
3. Exit game once disc two is installed.
You can then run Forza 3 from the HDD (assuming you already have it on your HDD of course) with the content from the second DVD installed.
jhoff80
Feb 6 2010, 11:54 PM
So I copied both discs of ME2 into the same folder, created an ISO, and used ISO2GOD to convert that into a Games on Demand folder, and upon running it on the 360 it said that it couldn't be launched, or something along those lines... just for anyone thinking of attempting it.
jhoff80
Feb 6 2010, 11:54 PM
Edit: Double post.
jhoff80
Feb 7 2010, 01:24 AM
QUOTE(jhoff80 @ Feb 6 2010, 07:54 PM)

So I copied both discs of ME2 into the same folder, created an ISO, and used ISO2GOD to convert that into a Games on Demand folder, and upon running it on the 360 it said that it couldn't be launched, or something along those lines... just for anyone thinking of attempting it.
I should also point out that it appears to be working fine from XexMenu.
ferrandu
Feb 7 2010, 06:17 PM
anyone know the steps for the halo 3 odst?
ska_drummer85
Feb 7 2010, 09:26 PM
QUOTE(ferrandu @ Feb 7 2010, 11:17 AM)

anyone know the steps for the halo 3 odst?
Halo 3 ODST disc 1 is story mode only. Disc 2 is Halo 3 multiplayer only. Rip them to separate folders.
However, I don't see why you would need the multiplayer disc unless you plan on playing a lot of LAN games.
godhatesyou
Feb 8 2010, 01:28 AM
For ME2 it made a difference for me when I replaced disc one files with disc two's. This caused it to freeze at character import 100% of the time. So from my experience disc one files can't be overwritten by disc two's for the game to work correctly.
simonk83
Feb 8 2010, 01:33 AM
QUOTE(godhatesyou @ Feb 8 2010, 11:28 AM)

For ME2 it made a difference for me when I replaced disc one files with disc two's. This caused it to freeze at character import 100% of the time. So from my experience disc one files can't be overwritten by disc two's for the game to work correctly.
I had the same experience
tbb033
Feb 8 2010, 05:11 AM
QUOTE(jhoff80 @ Feb 6 2010, 05:54 PM)

So I copied both discs of ME2 into the same folder, created an ISO, and used ISO2GOD to convert that into a Games on Demand folder, and upon running it on the 360 it said that it couldn't be launched, or something along those lines... just for anyone thinking of attempting it.
I didn't even bother trying to run the GoD that was generated when I tried this, as clearly something had been taken out that shouldn't have been - the total size of the GoD was only 6.6 gigs. lol, if the game could be made that small, it'd be a single disc game!
Midnight Tboy
Feb 8 2010, 05:28 AM
edit : ignore - having a blonde moment
jhoff80
Feb 8 2010, 08:11 AM
QUOTE(tbb033 @ Feb 8 2010, 01:11 AM)

I didn't even bother trying to run the GoD that was generated when I tried this, as clearly something had been taken out that shouldn't have been - the total size of the GoD was only 6.6 gigs. lol, if the game could be made that small, it'd be a single disc game!
Never checked the size, but yeah that'd do it.
Redsquirrel
Mar 3 2010, 03:51 PM
does this work with FF13?
XxErrorxX
Mar 5 2010, 02:10 AM
Cerise says you can not copy blue dragon disc to a folder and get it to run. But that's just nonsense. I have played in throughout the blue dragon and it works just fine ... the version I made was 11.6 gb instead of 19gb ..
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?s=&...t&p=4651707it behaves as if it should have been 3 disc. When you are finished with a disk pop-up "will you save before you insert the next disk". then continue playing after you have saved or chosen not to save.
tbb033
Mar 5 2010, 10:27 PM
QUOTE(XxErrorxX @ Mar 4 2010, 08:10 PM)

Cerise says you can not copy blue dragon disc to a folder and get it to run. But that's just nonsense. I have played in throughout the blue dragon and it works just fine ... the version I made was 11.6 gb instead of 19gb ..
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?s=&...t&p=4651707it behaves as if it should have been 3 disc. When you are finished with a disk pop-up "will you save before you insert the next disk". then continue playing after you have saved or chosen not to save.
When you were copying disc 2 and 3, did you overwrite files or keep files with the same name?
Maybe you chose one option, and Cerise chose the other and that's the discrepancy?
TonyRage
Mar 6 2010, 01:39 AM
QUOTE(Redsquirrel @ Mar 3 2010, 04:51 PM)

does this work with FF13?
No. FF13 *has* to be run from disk. At the very least you can install it via NXE for better performance, but the disk swap requires the disk to be recognised and to continue the game.
If you're wondering if you can load DVD2 via a HDD and then load your previous save game, then no, that doesn't work. There is no save prompt immediately before a disc swap, so you literally have to swap the discs when asked. Perhaps if XexMenu and other dashboards implement a "mount" feature (similar to DaemonTools) then this could work where disc swaps are concerned, but until then it seems to be hit and miss with multi-disc titles.
p4r0l3
Mar 6 2010, 04:18 AM
QUOTE(TonyRage @ Mar 5 2010, 06:39 PM)

No. FF13 *has* to be run from disk. At the very least you can install it via NXE for better performance, but the disk swap requires the disk to be recognised and to continue the game.
If you're wondering if you can load DVD2 via a HDD and then load your previous save game, then no, that doesn't work. There is no save prompt immediately before a disc swap, so you literally have to swap the discs when asked. Perhaps if XexMenu and other dashboards implement a "mount" feature (similar to DaemonTools) then this could work where disc swaps are concerned, but until then it seems to be hit and miss with multi-disc titles.
wrong, you can merge the 3 dvds into one folder (skip same name files, don't overwrite) and the game never asks you to switch discs
TonyRage
Mar 6 2010, 04:25 AM
QUOTE(p4r0l3 @ Mar 6 2010, 05:18 AM)

wrong, you can merge the 3 dvds into one folder (skip same name files, don't overwrite) and the game never asks you to switch discs
Wrong. The img.key file is different for each disc (hash ending in 00, 01 and 02 respectively) and is one of the methods used to determine the present disc.
Having actually tried to merge them in the manner you suggested and reaching disc 2 and the swap, I can personally confirm it doesn't work. Anyone suggesting differently hasn't tried it and is just spouting assumption.
belenos
Mar 6 2010, 07:41 AM
actually yes you can merge them you also have to use a decompressed and patched default.xex. I have done this and it plays seamlessly from disc 1 to disc 2 never even telling you to swap discs. only reason i even knew I had made it to disc 2 is because of the saves.
flo2bio
Mar 6 2010, 03:09 PM
QUOTE(belenos @ Mar 6 2010, 07:41 AM)

actually yes you can merge them you also have to use a decompressed and patched default.xex. I have done this and it plays seamlessly from disc 1 to disc 2 never even telling you to swap discs. only reason i even knew I had made it to disc 2 is because of the saves.
GREAT!
I'm actually at the end of DVD1 and I can't continue!

Please could you explain in detail how you managed Belenos?
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