oh lol, missed that one. Mem A must be on the back right.

The shadows are wrong as well

Not really a slim Xbox 360, more like a mini one.

Don't forget M$ were advertising for a motherboard designers as recently as a few weeks ago. I'm sure there are teams of designers coming up with all different variations of boards.

Pandora PS3 loader = fake. This is just evolution my friend. I doubt this will be production as they'd have to change the entire layout of the peripherals so I call 'testing prototype' or 'future debug console' for developers.

Only time will tell

All I know is I am a sucker for slim remakes... If this is an actual product I will be pretty excited!

You couldn't tell it was photoshopped? Seriously?

And yet you thought the motherboard was fake!

I'll give you a clue when judging images which have been manipulated: Only the ELITE get it right for lighting, shading and perspective.

I agree somewhat with crisdo98..... Did anyone pay attention to the update that MS was hiring tech engineers for motherboard design? this could well be some dudes idea...maybe there are quite a few designs on the "new" motherboard but this got leaked somehow. But then again, how could someone deign this motherboard, even with all its lackings, in 4 days or so?? Possibilities are kinda endless.

right connector looks like dual usb to me and left connector could be memory card.




probably because microsoft has a million xenons sitting in a pile with perfectly good ram chips

Nah bro that was called sarcasm , still looks pretty cool. If that MoBo was in that case the case would need to be longer in the back , i commented that it would have to look something like that , but i also said i was glad he didnt try to push it over as real. I edited that post because i was about to go off about how fake it was and he had already posted that he was checking out his Photoshop skills. I'm not as skeptical of the motherboard after looking more carefully at the traces as you suggested. You just like coming on here and trying to start shit with me don't you man haha , i'm not the only one who thought the MoBo was a fake i was probably the 3rd person to say that.
On another note , when asked about it Steve Ballmer said he doesn't answer questions about rumors or speculation , which leads me to believe it may be legit , as long as the article i read was legit. And i searched the internet for more information too see if it could be confirmed , i don't use xbox-scene as my only source of information , it's just the best one.

I dont know weather you guys noticed this but this looks like the eject button to me

That's probably the sync button.

Lol at people screaming fake without knowing just about anything...

X360 board pics leaked before and the turned out to be true....

2 SATA... this means:

1. Microsoft is going to allow free HDD swap on XBox360-slim

or

2. The custom HDD connector is on the chassis



As for eject... eject commands can be issued via ATA/SATA so there's no need for an additional key/connector.

For all the people talking about the dvd eject button or lack there of... if you look to the RIGHT of the Sync/eject button, you will see another spot for.... another button.

I had this doubt about conector number 9 (is this single mem. card ou two sided usb?)



Check this out:

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/18/xbox-360...in-2010-update/

This way, mem. card slot may be gone forever.
So, my best guest about conector 9 now is: Two USB ports.

WOW! I just looked at THAT picture and you can see the "ODD EJECT" written on the board. The red button that is there now says... power? Hmm

At first I thought it was a V1.0 Xbox 1 mobo If it's slim, it's probably just trying to counter the PS3 slim, and M$ will say it's revolutionary and innovative..

Everything about the board screams cost-reduction. Connectors are removed, board is shrunk, traces are shortened. If someone mocked this up they did a very good job making a "cheap" 360, which is exactly what we expect to see.

It also looks like the DVD-ROM drive will rest on top, similar to the current arraignment. I think this means the HEIGHT on the 360 slim will stay the same but the other dimensions will shrink i.e. current dimensions are 3.25 x 12 x 10 and the new dimensions might be 3.25 x 10 x 8. Some have speculated that this board might use a "flip top" top loading DVD-ROM drive. While "flip top" drives ARE cheaper, I hope they don't do this. The MTBF of flip top drives is less than half of other types and flip top drives horribly scratch discs worse than other drives.

I had also heard from a reliable source that there will be a new console launch holiday 2010 to coincide with Natal. I have no details to offer on this console. What I heard (more or less exactly) was, "We know that, that's why we're bundling Natal with a new console." This was in response to my comment, "Console accessories don't sell. Don't let Guitar Hero fool you." And that comment was in response to the proposed price point of $199 for Natal. In context, "new console" didn't just mean "any new XBOX 360" but a new console design. This conversation was in early 2009, I didn't even know what Natal was (it was described to me as a "camera") and discussion was about a launch for holiday 2009. So plans have definitely changed.

Based on all of the above it's almost certainly real. I'd bet money on it, and in fact I am.

Looks like bog standard mini-itx board to me, proportions are completely wrong all over it, as well as the supposed slots for power and memory card...

Advice - sarcasm doesn't work when you're writing text (unless you hint).

No, you weren't the first to scream fake, but you did scream fake nonetheless. Messageboards aren't live - you get time to inspect the goods before posting. Maybe looking before you leap next time - those of us who agree it's a proto board do so because we spent a good amount of time going over it with a fine tooth comb!

Don't rely on going to other sites for confirmation when something gets leaked as depending on the age and information available, you may not be able to substantiate it. As an example, some tool on another website took a forum entry out of context and dismissed the board as fake. A really good example of not reading before shooting your mouth off !





A good example of someone not looking before posting...

juggahax0r - this is how to make a complete arse of yourself!



Looking at it again, I believe you're right. The 2 pairs of prongs on the top are used on standard USB sockets to help hold the connector in place.

Oh.... wow... you're right. I just zoomed in and saw it too, Power and Eject. Weird.... so then where is the sync? Or maybe the power button is there for testing purposes and this will be changed by the final revision. Though a built in ROL/power board would also save them cash, so I could see them trying to find a way to do this on the board itself.

A couple of thoughts:

1) Since day one MS has designed the 360 with the goal of costing $100 or less. That's part of the reason they own the designs for the silicone. That Sony could sell the PS2 for that much and they couldn't come anywhere close to that on the original Xbox drove MS nuts. I see this as another step of getting there.

2) A month or so ago Ballmer hinted about using the 360 for other things. Is this perhaps some sort of media player set top box? Maybe that would explain some of the odd ports. Just a thought.

Just one thing...Silicone makes fake boobs hahahahaha....silicon on the other hand makes chips , just a small detail.
I would agree with part 2 their , if MS wants the 360 to be a big name for the next 10 years it will have to reach out more too the general public than just hardcore gamers. I definitely see them going in the direction of a set top media box. It makes sense too me.

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that board looks cheap and nasty so yes i would say it prob is the new board that ms will release.

Completely uneccesary image removed huh. So i guess everyone on here is super serious and has no sense of humor. Or doesn't like fake huge boobs. Gimme a break

No, its just uneeded bandwidth being taken up for no reason at all, if you wanna see boobs, go somewhere else. Meanwhile im at uni, a public place, and loaded up an image like that with no warning at all. it could of least of been put into a link.

Ok w/e it was still funny. Dude called silicon silicone i had to make some sort of BOOB joke. If i want to see boobs i just ask my woman to show them to me. everyone likes a nice set of fake ones you can play with like basketballs though. They weren't naked boobs anyways so being in a public place shouldn't matter. and plenty of people post unneeded pictures that take up bandwidth , and they don't get deleted.

I'm going to retract my original statement and agree that this is indeed the real thing. Obviously a dev/test board as it still has all the pinheaders attached. I will be interested to see if they do make it slim. I am not a big fan of the new PS3 i thought the fat one looked more high-tech.

Looks like the IR sensor between the USB ports and wireless connector in the front.

The two satas are there because it will come with an interal hdd so yeah! But still, unless they start building their own drives like Sony/BigN and keep using "normal" dvd drives, the board is really missing the eject button.

But still, it can come from an small board linked with nothing more than an flat cable, ps2 style.

Yep, that was spotted a while back

Oh, whoops! I read the whole thread, I must have missed that somehow.. Nevermind!

right so maybe i havnt calculated the exact dimensions of a dvd drive perfectly but i would say one could fit roughly in the space on the right, and as everyone has already mentioned this is a prototype so the fan could easily be replaced for a smaller version or be replaced with fans on the back like current models, one thing i havnt seen people point out is the fact there isnt really enough space on the "back" for 2 fans or even a largish fan so im am kind of unsure which route for cooling they will take unless the are indeed planning on having cooling fan placed directly above processor, similar to whats seen in the picture,

But my guess is this is a quick dirty design created just for testing out the new single dye chips, they have been posting for a new designer to design a new m/b so my guess is this is the prototype for testing the chips they will be using and making sure everything works good before creating a final design i know this happens alot in the process of making a completely new hardware revision especially if they want to test out newer hardware that wouldnt just be able to be applied to the current models available, so i highly doubt this will be anything like the final desing, yes there will be similarities but they have a new m/b designer to make it look pretty dont they, maybe the old one got sacked cos he calculated the width of a dvd drive wrong or somthing haha.
But one thing for sure if they are deciding to lie the 2 usb ports side by side they will be making it thinner atleast as the usb ports and the fans there the tallest things on the old boards

OHHH and one last thing i also read online that microsoft are planning to let people save to usb memory units, so maybe they finaly figured that its pointless having there memory cards and did away with them on the new m/b

I have been getting into the media center scene over on thegreenbutton.com and all the media center people are screaming for a deathly quite extender with or without a DVD Drive. This would be just used as a media extender with live functionality. Maybe with the launch of the Ceton card coming May 31 and alot of people moving in that direction microsft is answering with a deathly quite 360.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/leaked-...ed-by-ben-heck/

So MS are going to throw a heap of R&D cash into building a 360 which doesn't play games, yet has all the hardware components of a 360?

Ever heard of a HTPC? You can use those for MCE's too you know!

/facepalm



Nice to see he's saying the same as us

Not all people can have multiple HTPCs that are used as extenders do to copy once protection. You can only play the copied show on the HTPC the TV show was recored or the extenders that are tied to that HTPC. Microsoft has not made it so one HTPC can be made an extender of another. I never said it would not play games I just stated what people were asking for. In the end it just needs to be quite enough that you can not hear it like a Set top box from the cable company.

I didn't make myself clear. TSMC fabs 40nm, AMD/Intel does 45 I meant that if the report got that wrong, it also probably got some other things wrong. It might have 1 45nm CPU and a 40nm GPU packaged together. Honestly I don't know who makes what chips for the 360 but I was asuming IBM made the CPU and TSMC, who makes all of ATI chips did the GPU. I could be wrong.

CHECK THIS ZOOM IN SLIM HIGHLIGHT PICS COMPARE WITH THE CURRENT XBOX BOARD~
HOPE SOMEBODY FOUND SOMETHING INTERESTING...

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Some of those rear-corner connectors must be additional USB ports. With Natal, and the announcement of USB storage, there will be the need for more USB ports, especially for those with wireless adapters, unless they force the use of USB hubs. Maybe USB 3.0?

oh and one more thing that kinda baffled me is that the havnt got the hdmi output (from what i can tell) its not on top of the standard av output like on all previous models that had it, and lets face it thats where any designer should be putting the hdmi out so if its a hdmi and ethernet port or hdmi and usb ports on the top left....seems like bad positioning especially because it would mess up the pcb layout because they would need to get all the traces over to by the a/v port anyway, not that that aint possible just seems a lil stupid,

Unless of course they are now going to make the av port have a hdmi adaptor which seems doable

seems like if this is the real deal they are getting as much out of the case as possible so i wouldnt be surprised if they do expect people to use hubs and probably even decide to release a usb 360 memory card reader for $90 lol,

but it all ties in if they will be letting people use usb storage devices soon they could make the hdd internal without people being to bothered about being able to transfer saves easily between consoles and in the intrests of not having people crying that their memory cards are now pointless they will have to relesae a memory card reader that plugs into the usb port, i mean lets face it the never did provide enough usb ports to plug in 4 controllers for anyone who happend to want 4 wired controllers, so if memory cards usb sticks wireless are all to be used in usb ports oh and natal, seems wired controllers will become pretty much useless unless you do have a usb hub connected

The HDMI port isn't "on top" in the current models. It is below.

What makes you so sure anything has changed? Are you implying that the port there isn't tall enough to accommodate both?

I originally thought this too - I then looked at the height of a standard Xenon/Opus AV port and it's half the height of the USB/LAN port. The AV/HDMI socket is about 3mm lower than the USB/LAN port, which looks about right in the leaked images. So yeah, it's underneath the AV

Its most likely will not include a memory unit connector thus the front, right-side connector is probably usb ports turned on their side. Seeing as it has been announced that usb storage is coming, I think that puts memory uunits out of the picture for this.

so these rumored pictures finally became true.

Lemme fire up photoshop and show ya.

edit:



and here is a ballsy one



last but not least

Pics are now up of the internals and layout:

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/Ek...EVuJHDFNUiW.php

Looking at the close up images, it's obviously the same board. There are far too many similarities for it not to be. All non-believers, go hide in shame!


Also, If you look at pic http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/new360/DSCN1087.jpg, you can see the chassis is about 4cm wider than the board, which brings me to:



WIN!

They only difference is the 3rd set of ports in the very corner. Those are not on the retail versions.

Actually that port is there after looking at Anand's pics...



Anybody know what it is?

Internal Wifi.

Yeah, I just found that out. Oops.