I am trying to get my albumn covers to show up for all of my full albumns in XBMP. I am accessing these albumns via XNS with Relax. Each of my folders have an albumn cover in the folder named cover.jpg. Is there any way to change XBMP to look for these rather than manually changing like all 300 full albumn covers to be like filename.tbn?

Freevo and a couple other programs I use under linux work this way and it would save me a lot of headache if I could get XBMP to work the same.

Thanks,

BDSAINT

ALBUMS???????

...you speak of MUSIC ALBUMS?

why do u want music covers? do you honestly have an audience that cares? IMO...i see it as a complete waste of time...no one cares what the music looks like...just what it sounds like....




HOLLA AT A BALLA!

If you can't help me, why the fuck do you waste your time on replying?
And I didnt ask for your opinion on the subject. So don't reply If you can't help! Jesus Christ!!!

chill out fucker...!

rediculous...people on here can be unbelieveable!

BDSAINT, welcome to the wonderful world of xbox-scene, where most of these kiddie lurkers can only voice their worthless opinion, because they have nothing helpful to contribute to the forum. As if a post count has meaning in the real world...

I think you're hosed as far as any easy way of getting the thumbnails... time to write a script or something.

And, oh, msn25 - shutup unless you have something useful to contribute. Yeah people here can be *unbelievable*. People like YOU! (and horrible at spelling, as well).

Thanks akula169, I agree completely.

I am downloading the latest CVS code now to see if there is something I can do in there. Maybe I can even make it an option in the generals or something after I familiarize myself with the code. In the meantime, if anyone has done this or knows of a good way to accomplish this, please feel free to post!

Thanks for your help,

BDSAINT

i found that if i just put all my thumbnails in the thumbnail directory in XBMP on the Xbox they worked over a relax stream. as long as they are properly named etc. You could try editing the config.xml file in XBMP to change the directory of the thumbs if that still doesn't work.

QUOTE (msn25 @ Jul 2 2003, 02:19 AM)

ALBUMS??????? ...you speak of MUSIC ALBUMS? why do u want music covers?  do you honestly have an audience that cares?  IMO...i see it as a complete waste of time...no one cares what the music looks like...just what it sounds like.... HOLLA AT A BALLA!

And pointless post of the week goes to msn25.

LOTS of people use utils to display albums covers when playing mp3 or ogg albums. Especially in the sort of environment that xbmp is likely to be used ie. in the living room hooked up to a tv and amp.

If you haven't got anything usefull to say don't bother saying anything. It's people like you who give forums a bad name. Try hanging out over at izonews.com. I'm sure you'd be more at home there.

I was able to get my Thumbnails working for all of my Pictures by using JakeOz's information in his previous post. (thx JakeOz). Now I am working on my full Thumbnails for all of my full albumns folders and also my MusicVideos.

I have tried renaming the cover to foldername.tbn and uploading the .tbn file (named just like the folder) to the THumbs folder on my xbox. As well as renamed my cover.jpg to $foldername.tbn. None of these seem to work. Any suggestions?

i have only used thumbnails to show videos but i know you can set them for folders as well. read the XBMP readme file i think it tells you how to do this. You might have to go to settings in XBMP and choose to flatten folders or something like that.

I got the thumbnails to work for folders by putting the "foldername.tbn" in my music folder where all my albums are kept. In other words, I put all my music albums in f:/music/musicalbum/song.mp3, to associate a thumbnail with the album I put in one at f:/music/musicalbum.tbn.
Note: it the *.tbn file is > 100kb then it will not always appear, also if the *.tbn file is large the music file may not load and cause XBMP to crash (since it also caches the thumbnail when playing back) the workaround to this to put everything in a playlist and then it will play.....suggest keeping all *.tbn files at 10kb......
My $0.02

I'm looking to do the same thing.

I would say check this out... http://www.coolstf.com/XBMPSync/ .. He gives a suggestion for using windows media 9 to get them..

I'm looking into other solutions, which may require me to write some code myself that access some website to download the cover.

this is the way i make my tbns its long winded but works

1) download easy thumbnails a freeware prog.

2)set up a thumbnail folder on your pc so you can find them

3)open easy thumbnails direct it to your thumbnail file with the pics you want resizing. eg i get my album cover pictures from play.com(right click the pic,save as... rename it now to your album eg if your album is called Morcheeba - Hits rename the pic to Morcheeba - Hits, then save)

4)in the options of easy thumbnails you need to set it to a 64x64 pic do not add suffix .tbn i couldnt get this to work. click make thumbnail

5)you will now have an original pic resized to 64x64 but its a jpg....so right click you will see a button called edit click this or open the pic in paint.

6)when the pic is opened in paint do nothing except go to file, save as this will bring up a save options box then all you have to do at the end of the save name is put .tbn
this will then give you a resized pic and a tbn of the same pic that works a treat with xbmp..

7)then what you do with the file is put it in the same folder as the music eg on my pc my albums are kept here
g/music/lps so if in this folder is Morcheeba - Hits(the folder containing the album) g/music/lps/Morchheba - Hits, you put the tbn in g/music/lps not g/music/lps/Morcheeba - Hits



hope this made sense if not reply again and il try to explain it better.

forgot to say this method can be used on the xbox hd, or streamed from your pc it works a treat also can be used for applications as well

Another great freeware app that can do batch processing of image files (e.g. for resizing, conversion to jpg) is Infranview <http://www.irfanview.com/>

Hi all.

I am having a bit of trouble here. I am streaming all of my mp3 albums from my pc using relax, this is all setup and it works a treat

But i am trying to put thumnails to my album folders and they are not showing up in xbmp

I have converted an album cover from jpeg and sized it down to 64x64 and renamed it the same as the folder it goes in e.g (f:albumsqueen - greatest hits) and named the file (queen - greatest hits.tbn) and placed the file in the album folder.

Also when i have renamed my .jpeg to .tbn it still says it's a jpeg is this normal am i missing something here?

Thanks all

You need to put the file outside of your albumn folder, not inside. Most media players do have the file on inside of your albumn folder, but xbmp for some stupid reason looks for it in the same location as the alubmn folder itself. See previous examples.

You also have a probem with windows file types. Even though you renamed your file 'albumn - artist.tbn' the file is actually named 'albumn - artist.tbn.jpg' You can't see the .jpg part because windows is stupid. Renaming the file in DOS doesnt work too well unless your a DOS guru and know your '/'s. So I suggest changing your folder/file settings in windows.

Go to like Tools and Folder options and then the "VIEW" tab in your window. Take out the check that says "Hide File extentions for known file types". Thats it man. Now your should be able to rename your file to .tbn. When you rename it you should get a popup that warns you about changing the file type and then when you hit yes or ok or whatever your icon will change to the defualt windows "i don't know what the hell to do with this file" type icon.


Hope that works,


BDSAINT

Thanks for your reply,

I will give it a try now mate

Ok BDSAINT

I have just tried what you have said and is still not working

Do i need to change anything in my config.xml or any other ideas?

Sorry to be pain in the ass

What are the freeware programs that people are using to download the images?

@EVOII,

I have the same problem, but when I use an older build they show up perfectly! (I have more than one XBMP's on my xbox) so maybe it's something in the build you are using?!?

To CUBE

I am using 2.4 perhaps i should go back to 2.3 ?

i use 2.4 and it works fine , maybe you just need to reinstall it, or get a different bulid

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Help please

I can't get thumbnails to show up over a stream either. If I put the thumbnails in XBMP's Thumbs folder (on the Xbox), it works, but if I put the covers in the same folder that the album's folder is in (e.g. i have the album /Albums/albumname/, then I name the thumbnail /Albums/albumname.tbn), it won't work. Anyone got some kind of a work-around?
BTW, the reason I don't just put the covers on the Xbox is that the album folder names have too many characters for me to be able to have that same name for the thumbnail, because of the limitations of the FATx filesystem.

EDIT: Never mind.. It seems to be a problem with XBMSP. It works over XNS. Hope this will change in the future.

I am using relax and xns and it still doesn't work for me

OK, I'm going to try both the complex and the latest CVS build and let you know if any of those do the same thing.. (not showing thumbs over relax).

The one that does show the thumbs is 2.3 May 19th build and 2.3 April 24th Build... Those are the ones I still have on my xbox and they work just fine, so it's not a relax problem!

Same effect, really strange.. EVOII would it be possible for you to try out an 2.3 build?!? If so we could try to pinpoint the problem...

Hi Cube thanks for your reply

I have 2.3 on my computer somewhere so i will give it a go tomorrow mate.

I just noticed that XBMP caches the thumbnails that are viewed over XNS, so you can delete them from your computer after you've just viewed them one time. They are cached with a hex number file name in the XBMP/Thumbs dir. It also works to transfer the cached thumbs to another box that hasn't even been able to cache the thumbnails from the XNS source, and they show up all right. So there's some relation between the actual original filename and the hexadecimal number that XBMP uses for it's caching. Does anyone know how I can calculate this number directly, without having XBMP do it? Would be great, since that way I could just put the thumbnails in the Thumbs dir to boot, and not even have to put them on the relax share, since it works for long filenames too.

I am not getting this to work at all. I am using xbmp 2.4 and tried every way i can think of. I used xbox image converter and put the image file inside folders outside folders, inside folders in other folders. what the hell am I doing wrong?

Hi peeps, dunno if I can help you out here, but I experience the same type of problems as you have.
I'm running XBMP CVS 7-19-03, and streaming via ccxstream 1.0.15 (XBMSP in other words).
I've tried the same thing as you, putting the .tbn-file outside the folder like one should, but it doesn't seem to see it at all or it just ignores it....

However, during some research I found a version change doc by complex stating that they have added the <thumbnails>-tag, so I went in and checked that in config.xml, and the default value for it was e:\apps\xbmp\thumbs. So, I ftp'd the thumbnail files I had created into this folder on the box, and voila! XBMP sees the files and gives be a nice icon for the folder.
So it sort of seems to me like this is some undocumented feature or whatever, could there be a switch that could be used to set XBMP to look for thumbs in the actual folder you are browsing or that you have all your thumbs on one location?
It works fine, but it seems like a hassle to do this for each and every album you have, to ftp the thumbnail that is.

Cheers!