so guys heres my xbox 360 slim fan mod!

i exchanged the original slim fan and took a noiseblocker xe1 in.
i did cut the corners from the fan and did some holes around the fan for the flexlight!
and heres the result.

by the way the fan is runnin @ 5v and blows air in instead of blowin air out, absoloutly silent and the temps are da same.

check out da pics.

i also did a slim psu fan mod, pics are comin...

Looks like a clean job, I like it. Gonna go for a blue rol too?

thanks, yeah i wanna have a blue rol but im not very good at soldering, maybe i should try a gren flexlight!?

btw, greetz from berlin germany to seattle!!!

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8405/fan...M_-_17_dBA.html

This is the fan in question? I'm interested in doing this same mod because my slim overheated tonight after a couple hours of Fallout 3.

yes that is the right fan.
but dont forget, you have to cut the corners from the fan to fit in the case.
and the most important thing is how to install it, like i said before, the fan must blow air in, right to the cgpu heatsink, thats much more effecive then blowing air out!

p.s. the flexlight is seperately, you have to make holes in the fan frame.
heres the flexlight:

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/Moddin...lue::10518.html

Are you sure it's more effective? wouldn't have MS had it that way around in the first place if that was the case in this instance?

What method are you using to get a temperature reading?

Nice little mod, looks good

very simple, you can massure with your hand and if you install the fan blowin in, the air that comes out is colder then when you install the fan blowin out.

and with a fan replacemant you have a absoloutly unherable xbox 360 slim.

its like a pc cpu cooler, all of the pc coolers have fans blowin right to the cpu heatsink, and why, cuz its more effective.

so always remember, blowin is better then sucking (oh man how pervert that sounds)...

Does that flexlight just plug in on the motherboard somewhere or do you have to tap into a power source somewhere. I also have a slim and am about to put in some led's once I get my case cut, sanded, and painted...just didnt know how to hook up the leds.

P.S. If you want to change your ROL on the slim but dont wanna tackle it yourself, you may hit up n3ro on here, he done the slim board already and it turned out great. Sending him mine after the holidays to have it changed to match the led's Im putting in my case as mentioned above......that is if someone helps me figure out how to wire them up...lol. Anyway, he's a champ at it....highly recommended!!!

P.S.S. That fan looks killer on yours.....def jealous.....lol. Great job!

for the flexlight you just have to use the original fan pins but just the firt 2 pins from the left, thats where you can get 12v for the flexlight and you need those because the flexlight dont work on 5v!

and for the rol thing that not a good idea, because i live in berlin germany!

again this mod is very simple, get a 92mm fan (with transparent blades if possible for the better shining of the flexlight) a flexlight (available in blue red green and uv), then cut the corners of the fan, make holes for the flexlight, install the flexlight and finally the fan and thats it, looks awesome and is not hearable.

you can also use 12v for the fan but that will not be silent but very cool!

p.s. and dont forget to post pics after done the mod, greetz!

This may be a dumb question but if the fan is blowing air in where does the exhaust go? Seems like the heat would build up inside because of how cramped it is inside the slim case.

no, that wont happen because the hot air goes out where normaly the air comes in, from the side vents.

I'm considering just buying a LED 92mm fan to replace the stock. Seems like it may end up being more fiscally sound. I'll probably leave it facing out so no dust accrues. I also like to think Microsoft actually did some R&D so this box wouldn't totally f*** up from overheating but I could be wrong. Now to determine the best way to get those stickers off without tearing. Heard a rumour they are heat sensitive. Either way I'm waiting for the FW before doing this so I may kill two birds with one stone.
This?
http://www.directron.com/bld09025s1m.html

yes the stickers are heat sensitive.
the 92mm led fan is a very good idea.

have no fear to try things with the fan out, in the worst case the slim shuts down to prevent damage so the slim is absoloutly save, nothing can happen except the automatic shutdown!

the same on the psu, i tried it without a fan and after 30 min it shutted down because of overheating, but thats ok, nothing can brake or something like that.

again the worst that can happen is a automatically shutdown.

p.s. ive tried the fan @ 5v blowing out of the case and it overheated so blowing in is way more effective, no overheating, even after 6 hours of gears of war 2 multiplayer!

That's a pretty unreliable test.

To an extent, hot air coming out is a good thing, at least then you know the heat is being removed.

PC's have a much bigger cavity, and also intake/exhaust fans to expel the heat blown away from the heatsink. It's all about a good air flow throughout the system.

I'm not trying to bash what you've done at all. But I would be interested to know an actual temp reading.

How come it over heated when placed the other way around? (apart from showing that it's less effective) does the fan have a lower rpm/cfm than the stock fan? Do you have it running at a fixed speed, rather than auto adjusted by the xbox. Just find it strange that it would over heat if it was doing the same job as a stock fan.

i have nothing to measure right now!
but again when i install it blowin out it overheats, the fan runs at a fixed speed at 5v about 650 rpm.
but blowin in works perfekt at that speed.

maybe thats because of the stock fan, ever looked at ist?
its made especially for sucking, it has different blades.
and pc fans are allways made for blowin.

maybe someone makes this mod too and can measure the temps.

Looks good. You say its quieter huh. That's pretty impressive i just got mine and was amazed at how quiet it is stock. Personally i think the job ms did silencing that thing is the best noticeable improvement. Compared to the old one that sounded like a fuckin airplane taking off when you started a disc. Now I'm just hoping it never dies on me.

from what i seen, the xbox shut it self down to prevent dying.

very untrue

The fan is installed as an exhaust fan to remove the hot air from the heat sink, and to also help the heat sink cool.
you dont really want the fan to bring air in unless you have the vent sitting right next to a A/C unit or something
and if your pc's cpu heat sink has the fan blowing air into it, then it is installed improperly
Trust me i am A+ certified, and have more than 10 years hardware experience
Do yourself a favor and spend 80 bucks on an IR thermometer, and check the temp using both exhaust and intake.

Measurements dont lie

edit: i did forget to mention that it is more reliable to have 2 fans in many situations, 1 for an intake of cool air, and the other to exhaust hot air, but then the power consumption can cause some issues.

really cant share your opinion!

i play about a month with this setup and i had absoloutly no probs, no freezes and no overheatings.
this is proof enough for me!

and to the silence of the slim, well it depends on your ears and what you do with the slim.
for me the stock fan of the slim is very loud when i watch movies and for that i did this mod.
but yes its quiter than the fat xbox 360.

How did you plug in the new fan since the plug on the board is 4 pin?

for 12v you just have to plug the fan into the first two pins on the original fan connection or you can use a usb port for 5v like i did!

I agree with iTry. I am an A+ certified electronics service technician and I know that ANY single fan enclosure is required to exhaust air out of the system. For multiple fan systems or cabinets, the total fan airflow into the cabinet MUST NOT exceed the total exhaust fan output. There are many reasons this is industry standard practice but the main reason I think is if case vents clog up you could get motherboard that typically operate at 35C to heat up to over 60C. Another reason is inward airflow can easily be blocked from external objects, like a sheet of paper getting sucked on to the vent. Dispersing hot processor air into a system in never recommended and should never be considered a good idea even if it 'seems' to be working fine.

then tell me just one thing!!!
why is my slim cooler with the fan blowin in then before, even the fan has a lower rpm???

cuz there is enough place and vents for the hot air to go out!
so much about your experience as pros, lol......

OK, I guess you're smarter than the entire global tech industry. I just hope I'm not around if you ever get to work on any medical, military or transport equipment!

As fantastic as your smart ass condescending tone is, your evidence is far from empirical. If you want us to believe that your system is actually so much better, show us some proof. I'm highly doubting professionals and the factory installation could be so grossly wrong.

all the pro's are right, you have no sort of TEMP READINGS which are vital in comparing such a risky thing as flipping the fan around. what you are doing is removing the exhaust fan from the equasion and turning it into an intake fan thus clogging the xbox with more air and with no actual exhaust fan. Without it the air cannot escape properly. the most likely cause of the air being hotter as an exhuast fan is because its expelling the hot air straight from the heatsink. Think of it this way. your xbox is a boat, and the fan is a pump. your boat is full of water. you put the pump as an exhaust and the water is getting out of your boat thus you make it the safety, you put your pump as an intake, and all your doing is pumping more water in (in other words your fu......dged)

Im no damn A+ expert or Technician but i believe its common sense to have an exhaust.

[END OF RANT]

yes ms are stupid but do you really think after what happend with the origional xbox 360 they would miss something as small as flipping the fan direction if it was going to give them dramatically reduced temps?
NO.

WOW! thats just ridiculous. of course its going to be hotter when its blowing out, its expelling all the hot air from the heatsink!!

fuck all you haters!!!

Excellent response. You seem to be the absolute pinnacle of intelligence. People ask for proof and disagree? F*** em. LOL

oh yeah i will proof it, for all those fuckin haters.

Please do. Can't wait to see your evidence cause a complete revolution in the computer industry and I'm sure it will also amaze those crafty thermo physics guys M$ pays the big bucks to as well.

I can tell you why, it's because fans are more efficient as a pusher than they are as a puller. On top of which, you are feeding the CPU/GPU an air source which is always room temperature. The other components generate heat, thou marginal.

Positioning the fan as a puller will provide a marginal gain in cooling efficiency, but it will also force the other components to be bathed in hot air. Which they were not designed for. Anyone with an E74 error can explain how hot air causes nasty things to occur.

BTW 8 years professional IT experience here, those other guys are right. So I'd suggest you provide temperature data or concede.

Why you guys fighting him him? We all know out is better unless it has two fan which it doesn't, so the exhaust is clearly the correct way, but leave him. His choice, if his Xbox ever gets errors, its his fault.

the funny thing is, with the stock fan i had a couple of freezes everytime i played forza 3, thats why i decided to to this mod.

and like i said with this setup i had no more freezes.

but when i get something to measure i will make some test to proof!

p.s. maybe it has to do something with the thermal compound mod i did too, i used the prolimatech nano pk1, wich is claimed to be the best tc.

ROFL......and it will, then these forums will become useful to him, that is if he decides to actually listen to someone.......lol

That could possibly be the most likely reason.

Don't worry about all these haters. Most of these people are just little console kids anyways who really don't know about computer hardware. CPU fans in MOST PC's blow the air down on to the heatsink, not away from it. Anyone that actually knows about hardware should know fans are more efficient blowing air on to the heatsink rather than suckin it away.

Plus, all these people that say hotter air is better "because it's getting all the hot air out of the system", no it doesn't work like that. The cooler the air is that is coming out, the better. My 360 with stock fans running at stock voltage had nothing but pure heat radiating out of the back, but now I put in talismoon fans running at 12V and guess what? The air coming out the back is MUCH cooler and is barely warm after playing for hours.

oh the ignorance of people these days....

You are the ignorant one. Of course computer have it blowing in, i built computers before and it usually is blowing in. But you see, they have an exhaust fan too. The Xbox slim only has one fan. If it had an exhaust fan plus that fan blowing out, then in that case blowing in would be better. But there is no exhaust fan. Just the main fan, which is why it blows out. But like i said, its not worth arguing. Its your consoles, do whatever you guys want.

You calling them ignorant when they have been modding and building computers for years? They try to help you and give you guys advice and then you curse them out or insult them, if thats not ignorance idk what is. If you don't want help then don't come on this forum. Go ahead with your method and see how long your xbox lasts. You are similarly stupid to a guy I know who tried to use glue as thermal paste on his red ringed xbox.

@ all haters
first off a xbox 360 IS NOT A PC!!!
second all ya haters may have experience in pc things but doesnt have a clue about xbox 360 modding!
third a pc can run without exhaust fans!
fourth if ya dont like my mod, then dont read it!

AGAIN AND AGAIN there is enough room and vents where the hot air can flow out.
you guys dont have to make this mod too but hey thats such a nice way to say, hey man your mod is awesome you have the balls to mod your 360 slim and i dont, for that fuck your mod...

i would never do a mod that could cause probs to my slim, i mod it to prevent probs.

like i said before the mod i had freezes and now i dont, plus the case of the slim is so much cooler.
and yes you can tell that by your hand, or would you just lay ya hand in a fire and could say hey man i cant measure that by my hand!

@ I No I FeaR I
at least one person in the hole wide world who understand my mod, thank you!!!

The Xbox is not exactly a PC, but it more or less is one. Seriously, what's the major difference between it and one of those smaller desktops? It makes sense that established techniques would hold true for it. No idea why it no longer freezes though.

The xbox is a pc. The only difference is software (the OS) and a little difference in hardware, just that the cpu and gpu are custom made, everything else is the same shit.

Don't think you have more experience in modding then everyone else here because you don't, people on this forum have been modding for years before you probably figured out what modding was. As I said before if you don't want to take advice do what you want, no one is forcing you to do anything, everyone is simply suggesting something to you. If you don't like it then get out of the forum.

if ya dont loke my thread then just dont read it, please.
if it pisses you so of, then let it bee.

p.s. ive been modding since 15 years, kidies...
so much about knowledge!

You're the only one who seems pissed off. I offer a couple reasons why it's a bad idea and you're like F- you you f-ing haters...

Grow up! There's enough threads online that send people down the wrong path, this one didn't need to be another. Just because it works for you doesn't mean it's good for long term average use in average home environments.

dont know what kind of drugs you guys takin but how do come to this conslusion?
you have no proof, i have, my slim is runnin perfekt plus much cooler.
even with the xbox 360 fat does this mod work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7CvgYsOCZw

but you guys keep livin under a stone and dont know about nothing in xbox 360 modding.

love it or hate it, IT WORKS!!!

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."-Abraham Lincoln

The xbox in that video your referring is NOT using a single fan. It still has rear case fans to extract hot air. That fan is just for additional cooling, to make up for the lower CFM rear fans he used. Only running a single fan in that location would lead to a quick RROD. As air from that fan would hardly make a dent on the rising GPU temps, located under the optical drive.

All of the A+ techs here are right. I took A+ classes, just need the certification test (my god they are expensive!), but ya, with just about any electronic device that has active cooling via fans, you want to maintain a NEGATIVE air flow, which means, you want to be moving more air out then pushing air in. This allows the airflow to follow a designated path for proper cooling, and to be exhausted out where it was designed to be exhausted out at, not where ever this an opening to vent from.

In the case of the 360 S, the same holds true. Just like any electronic device, anything that uses electricity generates heat. Depending on the electronic component, the heat generated varies. In your case, you changed the airflow to a POSITIVE air flow (more air being pushed in then being pulled out). What happens here is just as one other person stated. You are forcing hot air onto components that are already generating heat, thus cooking them. Yes, they wont die now, might not even kill them in the next 3~4 months, but by doing so, you are greatly reducing their life span.

Yes, the 360 S has heat protection built in, but only the GCPU is monitored, not the rest of the board, and this is why the air flow was negative, so the boards components could stay cool, while still cooling the GCPU.

Bottom line is this....Yes, it seems to work better now, but that 360 S will have a shorter life span because everything else inside of it is overheating where there is no thermal protection. THIS is the reason why everybody wants temps, not just to see if the GCPU is cooler (because that is obvious because it is the first thing the air from the fan touches), but if the 360 OVERALL is cooler.

totally not true!
had a jtag with a 120mm on the side blowin in without exhaust fans and it was perfekly silent and cool and the guy who bought that jtag from me about 10 months ago said to me that still everything with the jtag is cool, no errors!

seriously you guys dont understand one extremely important thing:
the slim has one fan on the heatsink blowin direktly out of the case, but didnt you guys wonder why this is workin?
cuz it has to be enough vents where the fan can take the air from!!!

you say the slim needs an exhaust fan if the fan is installed blowin in, ok then why doesnt the slim has an intake fan when the fan is blowin out???
why???
cuz it doesnt need an intake or an outtake fan!
again there is enough vents where the cold air can come in, and thats why its working the opposite way too!

and one important thing too, the slim and the slim psu doesnt have errors, if the console gets too hot it shuts off, thats everything and that never happend with the opposite installed way of the fan.
theres just one error and thats the e82 and that happens when the hdd is not installed properly!

seriously im looking for a way to proof but i need a temp sensor with a display, maybe then you guys believe me.

im not saying microsoft is stupid, but they are not makin everythin perfect.

p.s. the only reason why ms installed the fan blowin away from the heatsink is cuz its more silent!
you can make a very simple test, start a temp sensoring tool on your pc and install the fan of your cpu blowin away from the hs, it will be more silent but also hotter then before.

@ black war
totally agree with that.
but the most of the chips insalled can operate up to 100 degrees or more, see not even the rams have heatsinks and the main one is not even touchin them and the southbridge is a really hot one, thats the chip who heats up most and even this one has not a heatsink, but why? maybe cuz it doesnt need one? cuz it can operate with such extreme hot conditions? i guess so.
will post temps of cgpu, southbridge and mainboard soon!
as soon as i get one or more temp sensors!

Sounds like you have bright future working for Microsoft's R&D team.



I never said such a thing, what I said is the following:



For the record, I do like the way your fan looks. However, I believe you're being tricked into thinking the system is running cooler than it is, by not taking into account the additional heat stress other components are now forced to undergo.

Which is fine, if it only effected you. If the life of your system is cut prematurely, that's your problem. However, if others follow suit believing your mod to have no side effects, that I do have a problem with. The xbox scene has enough people claiming their mods 'improve cooling', when the opposite appears to be true. Which is because everyone wants to believe they know best or their time was 'well spent'.