FreeStyle Dash Update... Posted by XanTium | June 29 22:10 EST | News Category: Xbox360

From teamfsd.com: [QUOTE] Good Day, I am posting this to let everyone know where things stand and to clear things up a little bit FSD is being worked on actively and we are really putting a lot of work into this version. We hope you will all like it and there will be a lot of changes. Now i also want to say we do this in our spare time and we do it cause we like to do it. I am sorry you don't think we update you enough or we don't release enough but really we do the best we can. We all have jobs to pay the bills and families we enjoy spending time with. It's summer so we are enjoying vacations and the weather. This does not mean we aren't working on FSD but it DOES mean that things slow down a bit. So with that being said we will release information when it becomes relevant and we will release Versions when they become stable. If that is not quick enough or soon enough that's too bad for you. SO with all that being said here is an update for you. We will likely NOT be posting another update thread soon as it won't mean anything to you when i say "Fixed crash in General Settings Screen: cause on your version there isn't one. So we are working on it and we are going to get it out as soon as we can. ********* WE DO NOT PLAN ON DOING A RELEASE THIS SUMMER ************* [/QUOTE] Official Site: http://www.teamfsd.com

People with lives... like they're taking vacations with their wives to Spain or something

That's cool... Take your time.. enjoy the summer.. keep up the good work.. I would however like to know one thing.. how is trainer support coming along.. I'm really excited to see this feature..

keep up the good work, and thanks for everything so far!

Great to hear that things are still ticking along. Really looking forward to this update.

Appreciate all the efforts.

PS: Can't you blokes take your laptops and 360's on holidays or is it the missus fault, lol

Thanks for letting us know there are no updates and you're taking the summer off.

"jtag" wouldn't mean what it dose without team FSD.

i thank all of you for your effort and dedication.

releases will come when they are stable (which is an incredible amount of work), some people get impatient and this usually induces extreamly rude behavior which is best to ignore.


i'm glad to hear the team is still active and i look forward to trainers and (more then anything) a media player if/when the time comes.

Thanks again.

what else is there to update? FSD is pretty neat the way it is now.

I want to know about this trainer option too...wonder if it will be simular to the old ETM/XBTF style of trainers.

Bah ofcourse we all apreciate the work but seriously calling ppl impatient who wait months... thats right months.. for even the smallest bugfix or update isnt being impatient. My best bet is they either got stuck on something "again" and lost interest or their fighting amongst each other "again".
Either way the dash works fine as is so as far as im concerned i got my donations worth. Alittle real honesty goes along way instead of calling out the "few" ppl who still support this dash. Also to to quote Grim " There would be no jtag if not for FSD" Thats 100 percent false. I recall several dashs that would have taken off if not for FSD existing. Nothing wrong with showing appreciation jus save it for when they deserve it not becuase your nose is buried in their bums hoping to convince them to release a update.

I say set it FSD free and allow ppl who do have the time to work on it. End of story.

well....i think i was kinda the only one disappointed with this news...

Wow.. ungrateful and impatient. THESE are the kinds of posts that drive me nuts... out of curiosity what have you done on your spare time to help people out? How much of YOUR time has been dedicated to this scene? Oh but right i am required to release things on your schedule and do things your way cause you want it... hmmm.. maybe this is the exact thing i was posting about.........

And for the record there is no Getting Stuck and in Fighting, i am not sure where you get your information, but it's wrong.

These posts are why i stopped browsing the news sites.. its hard as a developer to constantly see comments like this while i am pouring time into making something for nothing.

Anyways i am done ranting, but i wanted to point out how sad the state of the world is.

Thanks FSD Team!

in an effort (maybe futile) to remind you of the scene's appreciation of your work, i want to thank you for one of the best pieces of homebrew software available on ANY console.

Dont skim my post read it. Thx again for their hard work. But your response to my post was over the top. Funny but overboard none the less. As far as my contributions goes, i didnt know i was required to contribute to everything i enjoy.The donations i made i thought were generous and enuf but hey i guess i should have given a kidney and my first born instead to prove my worth huh. Something for nothing??? Dont make me laugh what the hell did you even sign up for??? Fortune and fame????Fast cars and women??? I never once disrespected or even asked for a update.. i jus spoke the truth and you flipped like a bipolar monkey.

Final Note: Constructive criticism is a tough thing to handle but thats what being a ADULT is about. Get over it.

I think Intruder might be trolling with a different account

Where was the criticsm or constructive nature of any of your posts.
You claim we are fighting with no knowledge you act like we don't have time to get work done, when i CLEARLY stated we are getting work done, it's just a major change. I did not say you have to contribute, my point is you obviously have NO IDEA what it's like to give your time to others. The way you write and behave are disrespectful in themselves.

There is no truth in what you are saying, there are assumptions made by a small minded person.

Saying thanks doesn't excuse rude behaviour. What you did in your post was spread untruths and misinformation about a situation i clearly outlined.

PEOPLE bug for Releases. IT"S not ready for RELEASE we are working on it. Will be done when we can. We are taking some family time (WHICH EVEN PAYING JOBS ALLOW) and will release when we can. LETTING YOU KNOW it won't be THIS SUMMER.

you went on a tirad about how we should let someone else take our work and do it cause its not fast enough for you. Then you come back and throw insults and tantrum that i don't like your response. I will not be answering again, and i will once again stop reading the news sites as people LIKE YOU really take the fun out of this.

For the rest of you. Sorry for my tangents but i really get tired of the self righteous attitudes i see. We will continue to work and release when stable AS WE ALWAYS HAVE. and i appreciate all the support.

Thx for all the hard work on this nice dash, but heck
I was expecting a update about 3months ago
With atleast the coverflow stuff.
Wich you guys showed a preview of some time ago


Heck even on the ps3 multiman dash gets updated more often .
And that is being devloped by 1 person on a scene wich is
jonger than the xbox scene

no offence to Dean but you cant even compare MultiMAN and FSD

its too bad there arent multiple teams working on dashes

with the original there were so many

evox
nexgen and more

And why not
Multiman
7difrent layout stylez
Themes
Media player
Emulators in it
Cover downloads
Oke it doesnt have xlink but the rest it checkes all
Boxes wich fsd checks

Use MultiMan then

I am using it same as im using fsd they are both perfect,
Just saying multi gets updated way more often than fsd
And that is being run by 1person on a jonger scene ,without
a debug console.

and FSD gets update more than windows, which is done by Professionals and larger team and been doing it longer.

The comparison isn't the same thing at all.

I appreciate what you are trying to say, but they aren't the same product.

Dean is amazing and congrats on his work. FSD is our work and we do what we can with it. The comparisons doesn't really mean anything....

Funny, I thought MultiMan was PS3 only...

EDIT: That's for the guy suggesting using MultiMan over FSD. I use MultiMan on my hacked PS3 and FSD on my JTAG... love both of them.

Everyone knows the scene dies down during the summer. It just happens.I wouldnt expect much December/January either.
Not everyone has anti-social behavior and lives with their parents. And to the guy who said he wasnt being rude, you were. On top of that you missed some points. Contributing to anything takes a lot more time than you think it does. Do it once and you'll get a new perspective.

And in my honest opinion, Lantus and Logic-Sunrise and cOz and Tuxuser and C4Eva, and all the other people making FSD have a reason to function deserve some credit. Anyone disappointed in FSD go bug those guys ;P

Considering how few people are actually able to run FSD on their console I think we're very lucky to have anyone (let alone a team!) actively working on a homebrew dash. It's kinda shocking to see some peoples ungrateful and rude attitude. FSD is a hobby project which is shared for free! As it is it's an incredibly feature packed and stable piece of software! How or why anyone would think they are entitled to frequent updates is a mystery .

Without FSD there isn't much point in running a JTAG 360. Personally I'm happy with what we have already. Anything extra is just a bonus!

It is sad to have people who complain, If you're not doing it yourself you can't complain if you're not paying for it you can't complain. A donation is of your own free will. They are trying their best whether people think they are or not. Everyone needs down time and have to enjoy the other parts of their lives. I wish I could do what these guys do. If I can I try to contribute to the scene in whatever aspect I can. Hell upping something to newsgroups is quite a pain. I couldn't even fathom what these guys have to go through.

But I thank you guys for your work, I don't use FSD much nor my 360 for that matter but when I do I appreciate the time and work and STABILITY that has gone into it.

I have a PS3 also and yes to a certain extent the ps3 scene always seems to be on the move even though it's younger. Two different systems, two different ways of doing Homebrew both wonderful in their own right.

Keep up the good work, and don't read these posts anymore yes they will bring you down and you don't know if someone is legitimately a jackass or they just want to push your buttons. Out of sight out of mind.

While still disappointed its not coming soon.....especially after the preview stuff 3 months back of what to expect...which suggested it wouldnt be all that far away.....I'm still glad at least its been outright said 'not this summer'.

For way too long I'd been holding off on giving FSD a clean install, cos its so buggy when updating from previous versions etc.....and having to reimport all covers etc all over again which takes ages on a slow connection. I'd been thinking "well no point doing that, cos the new version will be out shortly and use JQE360 for covers etc so will be wasted time on the 360". Finally did the clean install though when changed my hdd last week.

At least now that we know it's not coming soon, so can decide on reinstalling etc and get on with it. I do wish there were more alternatives however.

I wonder why the 360 seems to be so much 'harder' to develop dashboards for than the ps3 with the amazing multiman? To me, Multiman is everything I wanted FSD to be.......fast and responsive and not taking an age to load etc. So when its all JQE'd up, like Wiiflow etc it will look the bees knees (I hope). But of course I don't know the technical reasons that limit the 360 in comparison

I think FSD is probably slow to develop for though because the 360s are probably getting reballed every other week . Could it not be a case of too many cooks working with the FSD project that tredding on each others toes...and so harder to sort issues that crop up also?

Not wanting to take this off topic but you can't really compare the PS3 scene with the 360. The JTAG exploit was patched, what was it, 2 years ago now? Not to mention it wasn't exactly a straightforward mod and mostly too technical for the average 360 owner to undertake. Then you have the fact that the majority of JTAG consoles have since died due to RROD. Where as with the PS3 you can still buy a new console off the shelf today and enable homebrew/install CFW by simply inserting a USB pen drive and updating. It's not surprising the PS3 sees almost daily homebrew releases and updates. PS3 homebrew is far more accessible to a much larger group of people.

Not to mention the fact that ps3 devs can sign their content since they have the master key.

You lazy bums!






Just kidding It's your baby, you decide when it's time to let it out again. Just don't let it die

I like FSD. It's working for me, and I'm grateful for it and the hard work of those who made it happen.

I'm also grateful for the status update...but I would have appreciated the update much more without the blatant underlying bad attitude.

There is so much going on in the JTAG scene right now...

-Gligli is active again
-Libxenon.org is growing each day with new dev-users
-ect.

I just dont understand why everybody keeps crying about TeamFSD.

btw.
Thanks JQE for the effort you put in your project so far.

Wish they would just release the code and make it an open source project.

Yes they're doing this for free and sharing it with everyone, but there's one thing they're refusing to share, and that's the "glory".

I miss the XBMC days when people contributed because they honestly wanted to improve the system, and not just to get recognition.

Amen to that but be careful the truth is like sharp knives to them. Sorry but i refuse to sugar coat anything. i have my "opinion" jus like everyone else, like it or not. Criticism isnt pretty but needed in instances such as this.

In my opinion, the ONLY things missing from FSD are:

1. NTFS Partitions (Primarily for ISO Support)

2. ISO Support (with $SystemUpdate Folder Blocked, and no more game rips needed)

Both of those would probably already have been coded and shared.
Instead, NEGATIVITY in the JTAG Community and the LIVE Abuse, have taken their toll.

FSD is fine the way it is.

WHEN the Scene wants to release something we should all be gratefull.

If they DONT release what you want or like, code it yourselves. I did.

(BTW, I hope they never release the source. Great way to get all your JTAGs BRICKED or HACKED by some wanna-be kid)

Thanks To The Scene.

What's bad about this is that if the FSD team which is literally only one team, and the JTAG team which is literally only one team stop doing things, we would be screwed and JTAG scene would die.

That's two things. Look in less then a year once the PS3 scene started up, how many things have been released and done. And it's updated nearly everyday. The Xbox scene waits months and months before something new comes out, or is fixed. I am not blaming this on the FSD team, but face the reality the xbox scene is dieing slowly.

1. No one has figured out how to JTAG the new systems, which to me comes down to not feeling like it. Which seems to me, that is done purposely to keep the price driving up on the more and more rare Jasper systems that are JTAGGABLE.

2. Whoever uses hacked Firmware for there drives, microsoft is pumping out updates like madmen, and C4eva and his team just can't keep up. All these hacker groups refuse to share, nothing gets accomplished, people who actually hack there drives get screwed because they literally wait months for something new. I can't understand when people say that "you are under appreciating." No they are not, they expect that if you say this FIRMWARE works to let it work, and not taking months to get something to work again.

If you can't keep up with the amount of updates, get MORE help. Otherwise if you don't want to it anymore, don't' do it. If punishing the scene is what it takes with some people then so be it.

I just don't care anymore at this point. I am facing the reality the Xbox scene is dieing. It annoys me when a hacker goes "i am working on this finally it's going to be great for the xbox!!" A year later we have heard nothing. It seems like a cruel joke to me sometimes.

I'm still waiting for that N64 Emulator...

the issue you raise here has been already addressed in this thread. read.

oh, my! you're right! it's a conspiracy! just to drive up the cost of systems!


or, maybe.. just maybe.. microsoft patched the vulnerability. read.

let's translate this. you get electricity into your home. it stops being delivered. you call the utility company and they fix it. because.. wait for it.. wait for it.. .. .. YOU PAY FOR IT.

oh, and btw - donations do not count as "paying". more to the point. you sound a lot like a beggar on the streetcorner yelling at a person who gives you their pocketchange to give you MORE.

we can all /politely/ request for the scene's software development to be open sourced. maybe it'll happen, maybe it won't. the respective teams' works are their property (ok, ok, and a little bit of microsoft's as well). and, tbh, there's actually a chance that if the sources were released it would make certain aspects of hack development (fbbuild, lt+) more difficult b/c microsoft would change their tactics.

to everyone who has built the scene and to those who maintain it in even the slightest way: thank you. please ignore the petulance here.

Uhh thank you for telling us nothing... lol

Open Source:

I can't speak for the entire team, but I think we all feel similar. We want to release the source code- especially since we're obligated to as we are utilizing open-source code developed by others ( in this newest build ).

However, at this point in time, we are not ready to release the source. Unfortunately, there is a lot of work that will be stripped out when we do.

For instance, the plugin source code won't be released at the request of the creator...

Other things we need to strip out are connections to our personal servers for asset hosting. While these can easily be recreated and reversed by talented people out there, we feel we can at least control access if we keep the code controlled.

Next, we have questionable code from unnamed sources that won't be in there for obvious reasons-

The last problem we have was when our website crashed a few months ago... we lost our entire SVN history, and have been piecing together our local working builds in an attempt to rebuild.

Stay positive.... the stuff we are working on is exciting.... and if you really want to develop and expand on FSD- there are older copies of the source out there somewhere.

Ciao

I'm new to the jtag scene, and I have to say that I just really love FSD! I have a ps3 with multiman, also, but I've always just been more of an xbox kind of guy. Thank you, FSD, team for doing what you're doing/have done! I've not found anything I wanted to do that FSD didn't offer so far, so I am happy! I do look forward to your update when it is finished, though! Hope you all have a good summer!

fsd rocks... that is all.

Please try anyway putting trainer
Thank FSD

They really need to release there source code. Its obvious they are not interested in investing the necessary time to get the project up to there goals and constantly changing there focus. The team is full of inexperienced coders learning on this project and constantly taking two steps back to take half a step forward. There are alot of coders out there that would add to the dev but refuse to join their team. And most of us dont have expensive dev boxes collecting dust as some of them do.

Everyone needs to stop being anal and defensive about peoples criticism of the team and project. They wont stop coding because of them but if they do they would have done it anyways, criticism or not. Everyone's points are valid and the defensive responses are annoying and usually childish. Responding to mine and others comments adds nothing to the thread except useless drivel.

I appreciate there work and they have done a good job so far. But they are just pissing alot of people off with there long periods of silence and lofty unfulfilled promises.

I don't recall unfufilled promises. And i don't understand how people are getting pissed off. We are trying to tell people we are working on this and it will be a while. It is a LARGE re-write for speed and stability, and we are ENJOYING our summer and lives.. why is this so hard to accept?

Also if there are other devs that want to contribute they can contact us, but if they are unwilling to talk to us, then why on earth is it OUR fault?

That right there is all i needed to see,you nor i have any clue as to how many have died especially not enough of one to say the majority and it irks me to see people just spout untruths like they are nothing, i am sorry but that sentence to me is just laughable.