To those people that doubt the chinese ripoffs i can only say that i got them from 3 different suppliers and with the jtag-cable i posted and external 3.3v i got them programmed and they all works on my slim with 270pf cap (smd 0402 mounted on bottom of board) connected with the diagram i posted yearlier. If you cant program or get it to work, maybe you have done something wrong, and not the chinese guys making them.

And to microsoft, nice to see that my brand new slim (never powerd before nand-dump) already got 3 bad blocks, good work m$!

If it's just the silk screen layer then thats no problem, a board layout picture is all people would need to find out placement.

I just copied and pasted the board into my panel and ran the sparkfun cam job which i use for all my boards.




My Resident evil box has 2 bad blocks within the first 50 blocks, now tell me thats good quality!

Many flash memory's has bad blocks. They are even marked as bad on the production line.

I had no bad blocks in two checked slims.

Edit:
"Most NAND devices are shipped from the factory with some bad blocks which are typically identified and marked according to a specified bad block marking strategy. By allowing some bad blocks, the manufacturers achieve far higher yields than would be possible if all blocks had to be verified good. This significantly reduces NAND flash costs and only slightly decreases the storage capacity of the parts."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory

Not unusual. Bad blocks are usually remapped automatically.

Oh trust me the top silk is not a concern for me, I will still buy especially at 9$ a pop. On your cam job just turn tDoc for the top silk and it should fix that issue on the next run.

Thanks for the board, i will use them to. I was trying to make a universal one but my time is limited and it's been a while since i haven't use the design software for pcb's.
The only issue is that the 10uF is case A....but it fits with a little atention...

Anyway, here are the place for the components for those who don't get the position.






@odd


I have tested and the schematic for LPT from that file is ok.
Try to change diferent setting sin BIOS of LPT port and verify the schematic of the diagram.

hi, just one but very important question!!
can i programm the board (designed with Kipper2k´s brd file) with the lpt cable from the Reset Glitch Hack pdf file ?

i´ve tried it, but impact is reporting a error, something about "check your cable, hardware, voltage.."
i´ve checked the wires but its perfect :-(

please help me!

btw.
no problem with programming the xilinx coolrunner with that cable!!
the soldering is okay!!

This is the board from diygadget.com:

TIAO CoolRunner ii RGH Kit



It looks like it is for both phat and slim.

Not sure when it will be available....


DIYGADGET News Update

It seems they gone power it up from usb for programing.

i looked around but couldent find anything about it, do you have a link?


speaking of quality; over the years ive had at least 3 brand new 360 go 3 red lights withing 10hrs of use and i think it was more likely for me to find bad blocks in new consoles then it was old.

i dont think tms should be that high, im wondering if i have it wired wrong, maybe tdi and tms are switched, can someone with a working jtag programmer check voltages for me?

i dont think it is completly faulty, i verified my cable with a xc9572xl before my boards arrived and it worked like a charm. did not work on my xc2c64a so i made another cable without all resistors and diodes and that one worked for my boards.

@playonlcd
Thanks for the cleaned up component layouts.

@Gmim
Do you need the measurements taken while it's on the programmer or in the console?

@kipperk2
Nice! Wish I could produce that quality at home.

tdo, tdi, tck and tms on the chip side please, thank you.

3.29 & 1.79
TCK 3.18
TDO 2.65
TDI 3.18
TMS 1.49 to 3.18
Measurements taken while plugged into programmer, vcc from CK3.

then i think my lpt port in blown, did you have the software running? or just pluged in?

im gonna do some tests on the lpt port without the wiring.

edit:
without anything running tdi, tck and tms are 0.11v
when i run impact tdi jumps to 5.03 but tck and tms stay 0.11.

so either the port is blown or im having io access issues.

Just plugged in.

I have tried a few times making them at home, with the newer high density components its getting a little harder so i just wait till i have a few designs ready to panelise and get them made for me, I don't get them made to make a profit as such, it just enables me to get them cheap and help others too. Only thing i hate is the waiting part, sooo impatient lol

Hopefully tomorrow i can get some building and testing done. Once i can prove they work ok then i will let them go for sale. I think Looouky has already proved the V3 design so its just mine.

i have yet to find some software for win 7 that opens up port io's.

i did find a few different diagrams that use tms, tck, tdi and tdo on different pins, so i will test the voltages of these pins vs the voltages you provided.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4128/sb...blackcatou7.png
http://www.sat-universe.com/imagehosting/2...fd01ed9621c.bmp

edit:
im not getting any better results from testing the pins in the diagrams above.

ive tried switching the mode and doing testing; voltages only change when impact is running (otherwise they are all 0.11)
ssp gives 5v on tms
ecp gives 5v on tdi
normal gives 0v on tms, tck and tdi.
esp (iirc) + ecp gives 5v on tms

so this has to be software, im gonna ditch win 7 32 and install xp 32.

Just a quick question in regards to the glitch hack, I understand its not 100% to do the glitch (seen some videos while it gets the timings right), But once it boots glitched (into xell) , is that it? you have access fully, and we just wait for our lovely devs to write custom nands etc? Or is it a bit more complicated than that? Just wondering if i should bother purchasing a slim xbox . i have a jtag jasper but id rather replace it with a slim (I dont use all functions of the jtag like xlink etc, all i like is DLC and Games played from the hdd)

we did face similar problems while trying to build lpt cables to program the nand back in the days when usb flashers were nonexistence. some people ended up removing all the resistors and diodes so that nandpro recognizes the nand and gives the correct flashconfig...

Yup,

Once it boots into Xell it will boot CFW. If you have the cash buy the slim now in case new boards have pads removed, encased etc

I do have like 4 JTAG all jaspers, and they all have bad blocks - I bought them new just to JTAG them back in 2009-. Even my WIIs nand got some bad blocks.... so it seems bad blocks are always expected...

Cool just the answer that i was after, thank you

well i got xp installed, installed port95nt as well as giveio and the same, but voltages changed; tms, tck and tdi are now 0.32 after doides.

im done for the day, hopefully the buffered jtag cable will be here tomorrow, if not i will do some more testing to see if i can get it working.

v3 worked fine and so did v1, v2 could have worked fine it was just a little buggered and you need to cut a trace.

Can you explain me something before I dive into this...

I have a Jasper board (not jtagged) and dashboard version is almost up to date (latest update was from Mortal Kombat I think)..

So, if I use this board, I can run Xell and get CPU-key (finally!)..

But after getting that key, do I have to continue using this board? Or after preparing a freeboot with cpu-key could I remove this board so machine could boot freeboot without any problem? I searched through the thread but couldn't find a similar question..

So anyone can help me on this?

No freeboot yet, just xell reloaded.

Probably they wait for the commercial boards to flood the market.

Greets to Kipper, Technitian3, Looouky, luig, Grim187 and Ernesto thanks for your help and schematics so far.

... I'm going to give it a shot at making my own boards using press n peel with the use of a laser printer, but I have a few more questions that perhaps you can help with?

1. The parts used seem to be in the majority to be 805, there appear to be two sizes of these 1.6mm or 3.2mm which ones do you use for your boards? (can you provide some products numbers from a site such as digikey so I can see for myself please?).

2. Do I need to resize any of the pdf's or brb's when printing to the transfer sheet, if so how and how do I get multiple boards to a sheet, is there an easy way to do this as I might as well do a whole A4 sheet as oppossed to fiddling around with one here and one there.

3. Any tips for using this method, can I apply a solder mask after completion if so how etc?

Ernesto can you provide a schematic for your Phat version, as I can only see a slim (or even combined board) in this thread.

Kipper if you were in the UK I'd be buying a dozen of yours straight away, but I don't use paypal (a few very bad and costly experiences on eBay stopped that) so no way to get money to you ... excellent work it' nice to have watched a project the whole way through.

Technitian3, excellent work nice to see a simple/clean single sided board ... and chance of a combined board?

Cheers
Jinxter

hi, wich Diagram have you used for your xc2c64a ?
i mean the diagram without the resistors :-)

than i can try this one!

And, have u used another extra 3.3V Source, like usb ??

Interesting...so you have the glitch but cant actually use the console to play games etc?

So what's the point of BestPigs Freeboot Glitch Patched Imagebuilder?

Just trying to understand the rush to glitch if you cant then use usb nandflash tool to load a freeboot image from Xell? I appreciate it may be helping the scene...just clarifying whatcan do with a glitched console before attempt it myself.

Thx

No. JUST xell reloaded.. for now.

Hi Jinxter.

If you are making your own boards then the quality of the boards will not be as good as the professionally build ones. The quality of the boards you can create depends upon your equipment, obviously a better quality printer will produce a sharper layout than a cheap one. The selection of components also to a degree depends on the quality of the board, the smaller the part, the smaller the pad which it needs and also the less power that component can normally handle. 0805 resistors and capacitors are probably as small as you should go on home made boards to make life easier. I normally use 1206 resistors as its easy to sneak a trace through the middle of the pads to help in keeping layout traces shorter.

Here is one of the best tutorials for making homemade PCBS on the net.

http://retromaster.wordpress.com/pcb-making/

Hi!

I have a small request to Technitian3. Could you send me a schemtic for your phat board ? I'm trying to make my own but i have small problem, so i need to get something that is actually working, for comparison.

I'll be off work in a few hours, I'll knock one up then.

Here you go:



http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20270108/360fat_top.pdf
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20270108/360fat_silk.pdf
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20270108/BOM.txt

My boards (fat and slim version) are on the way, I hope I get them on Monday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...p;v=hcHvbyzHHYI Clitch or jtag?

So far all the glitch will do is display a pretty blue screen with white text, just like the rest of Microsofts' products.

Kipper thank you very much that's a good page had read up on one like it earlier, but using the glass paint to mask the board is an excellent idea! (ordered some of that!).

ernestino, thanks for the schematic, but when I open that PDF they are both massive when I print (4 x 2 inches) what is the actually size? Think I'll going to try and etch some of your boards as I like the fact that all leggs are avaible just in case something happens that they are needed.

Technitian3, going to try your design as well as it small and uncluttered (and I like the additoional spaces on the slim board), blue and white screen comment is just pure class too

sloshymon, as no one else has bothered yet, let me be the first to cry "FAKE" at that!

Cheers
Jinxter

That looks awesome! Hopefully for both, somehow someway.

Original JTAG for now. but I am sure it will work fine on the Glitch when a booter is released. Hopefully a booter for the glitch would be released by Dec 32nd.

You guys are forgetting there is a lot coming from libxenon that does work with xell reloded, such as the n64 emulator and the psx one as well. You can do more than stare at the blue screen, but ultimately the choice is yours. I've been some mario 64. You could also start creating your porjects and compiling them, there is a whole host of things to be done that are legal and fun.

I am also dreaming about them.


@Looouky
Can you mark a starting point?

Files for FAT and SLIM updated - you can nov print in 1:1 scale.

Ok here is the playstation emu:

http://code.google.com/p/pcsxr-libxenon/

N64 emu
http://libxenon.org/index.php?topic=16.0

Here is a wiki on how to compile your projects and other's:

http://free60.org/Compiling_the_Toolchain

Starting homebrew:

http://www.free60.org/Starting_Homebrew_Development


libxenon examples:
http://www.free60.org/LibXenon_Examples

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snes9x

Cheers, I've been waiting on another USB cable for ages, wouldn't have had LPT problems if I didn't have to give back the one I had been using to friend moving back home interstate..
Didn't notice any schematics in there previously, but I will have a look after, I plan to etch and build it (or get some1 else here to do it ;-) as we need a reliable LPT, I prefer using LPT whenever I can , or to at least have the option, I've noticed more issues with USB/SPI programmed Nands, they (seem to)develop bad-blocks more rapidly and just generally glitch more frequently, saying it anecdotally it sounds wrong, perhaps it's just my experience, but I know of others who seem to think there is a small difference also (It has been suggested to me that it's similar to the reason ppl suggest burning at slower speeds)


Yes, thanx again for the reassurance, I had begun to think I was going insane... The coincidence seemed suspicious at the time with the Icode thing and the fact when I went to querey the desginer I found they had gone 'On vacation' for a month or so...


Pretty sure my port has a lot to do with it, I think it's done one too many extended jasper nand dumps, prolly killed the gain on part of the IO chip (Damm thinkcentre crap, we got it at auction as a work-horse for 40$ I guess it's done well to get us this far.. everything's going USB now, I just hope altera and xillinx work well 2gether ;-)

Also; I went back and looked at the standard, and realised that there is more to boundary scans than I had taken the time to think about.. I can't do anything till I get back to work after the weekend, but I'm fairly confident I will get it going with the basic cable and cap etc.. on the PCB so that the boundary scans match what's expected. Sometimes when u try dozens of things in dozens of combinations, u sometimes unwittingly break something that was working before it was changed, I think that has a role to play, if the cable recognises, but gives back a boundary scan that differs from what it expects, then one needs to apply the kiss principal and eliminate things one at a time; cable, LPT port and boundary scan. When I get the chance I will let everyone know what the solution turned out to be for future referrance.. ppl shouldn't have to outlay significant sums of cash to unscrup..... Anyways.. I was about to rage-rant about a certain (now) well-known PCB manufacturer(non-ebay/chinese, not mentioned by me on here *yet*) who has been discovered to have been puling orders from ppl ordering small numbers of PCB's to meet larger ones for the likes of the re-branders and then blatantly BS'ing them about there being something wrong with the order whilst unwittingly contradicting themselves and... ... Anyway I digress.. More on that later (perhaps, we will see) Just beware guys, some ppl (shock-horror) have tried to really cash-in on this in more than the usual devious ways ... Didn't I say I wasn't going to rant?

oops >_< oh wells

Phat schematic:


Component and header pinouts match my boards and layout is close.

help im in a dilema iv just got my xilinx and all tools required to do this i have a falcon and a slim and itchy fingers i was goin to wait for a falcon update anybody know what kinda timeframe the release will be for it or should i just do my slim?

A few post back this was posted.



You could give that a shot with the current CPLD code and report back to everyone.

I haven't been able to access xbox hacker site for a week now ?

is it just me ?

"Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 16481238 bytes) in /home/xbh360/public_html/index.php on line 26