Fake Xecuter CoolRunners and Unlocked DG-16D4S PCB Posted by XanTium | January 2 22:08 EST | News Category: Xbox360

From team-xecuter.com: [QUOTE] It has come to our attention that a small factory in China is making cheap, low quality copies of the hugely successful Xecuter CoolRunner & Xecuter Unlocked Replacement DG-16D4S PCB. They do say that imitation is the highest form of flattery, however these came through our retail channels due to a high number of faulty returns and there were attempts at having them replaced on the official Xecuter Warranty. Not only are they poor quality, but they are wholesaling them for the same cost at what we are wholesaling the genuine products to our wholesale network, so it’s pointless buying them in the first place. If you are looking to buy genuine Xecuter products through wholesale channels then simply contact Supreme Factory or China Distribution and they will take care of you. If you are looking for genuine Xecuter retailers then they are listed on our Official Resellers Page. If you suspect that an official reseller has sold you a fake Xecuter product please get in touch with us immediately. Remember that when you buy fake copies, even though you are paying the same price as the genuine product you will get no support, and no warranty. Here are some comparison photographs to see if you have a fake or genuine CoolRunner / Unlocked Replacement PCB. With the CoolRunner you can see that half the components used are not the same brand as the original and the print quality is shoddy at best. They have also shaved off the corner dot on the main IC. With the Unlocked Replacement DG-16D4S PCB there are far too many mistakes and errors to even know where to begin. Luckily its super easy to spot the fake. [/QUOTE] Official Site: http://team-xecuter.com

low quality......ya right.....

the Chinese can reverse engineer anything!

cant even get the unlocked PCB, if they can make them and sell at reasonable price why not....

Oh, how ironic...

funny thing is Xecuter claimed the unlocked PCB is EOL so why the heck do they care?

Is it just me or does the clone for the coolrunner look better then the original? Because before I scrolled down to see the words I thought the one on the right was the original.

Anyone have the prices on these? I can't find a retailer selling them. Surely some retailer out there knows that they are buying clones and is selling them at lower cost claiming that they are having a "sale".

And yes, the clone does look better than the original Coolrunner.

That's what I see too. Alright, the unused solder pads are flat on the one designated "original", but the soldering looks better on the one designated "clone", also the connectors are "in line". "Original" looks like Picasso soldered the connectors^^

Maybe they mislabeled the pic...

i have 3 tx unlocked pcbs from mrmodchips, they are clones according to this..

visually theres nothing wrong with them, they look fantastic quality, neat clean solders throughout.

i will test them out over the next few days just in case, last one i used was apparently a clone and it worked perfectly and still does.

my cloned ones have a TX hologram sticker too unlike both of the pictures shown here.....

I wonder if the Chinese companies charge 5 bucks for a knock off cable that should come with the fake. If not, they could totally undercut TX

Mine from the same supplier also looks like a clone, and it also has a TX hologram sticker... as long as it works I do not really care but well, good to know that the official reseller sells clones at the same price as originals. To be honest I was unable to find the products on Supreme Factory's site, and not sure all people are going to buy in bulk quanities from China Distribution. Now as knowing there are unreliable resellers and the wholesale lines are also quite problematic for some of us, maybe it's time to change to other products like Matrix's stuffs.

I can't tell the diffefference, they both look like clones to me ?

DealExtreme sell them http://www.dealextreme.com/p/designer-s-xe...xbox-360-112791

$15.80 or £11.18 inc free delivery.

I have ordered a few things from them, never had a problem. Thake usually a couple of weeks to reach UK if item is in stock.

Just checked UK based website, comes in at around £18 delivered for a "proper" one.

I think the clone looks better aswell, if it peforms better though is a different story

And where you can get Unlocked DG-16D4S PCB ???

No one has mentioned about the genuine sticker you get. Have they copied that too?

http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.Professi..._360_Slim-49246

www.modchipcentral.com out of Canada.

The Coolrunner from looking at the pictures, the only difference I can really see is the print. The only other indication is that little dot missing on the IC, but if that was there on the clone, you would never tell the difference, except perhaps performance.

The PCB is easy to tell the difference.

Of course they're low quality copies.

If they weren't low quality (peel-off solder pads, shit switches, etc.), they wouldn't be true copies.
(if the quality of every Xecuter product I've ever encountered - with the exception of the metal case opening tools - is anything to go by)

they look good in fact some of the flowing of the solder looks better on the clone
the board edges look smoother.

im onto my china contacts and looking for some of these now
she will get me them like $5 a piece

dave

spread the wealth bro i could use a new china contact.pm me the info.

Why they call it a clone ( a Drive PCB ) ? This is just another solution made by other company, and they are all just a copy of Original LiteOn PCB made by Microsoft contractor ( just with compatible IC Chipset and external SPI Chip ). anyway looks like Matrix PCB is a best.

Gotta laugh at this one.

Why would they want to draw attention to these coolrunner "clones"?

These are off the shelf components, made by some other Chinese line that has better quality control.

Not much reason to stick with the original maker.. If you can get the same thing made better.

and cheaper too

i own a dm800hd clone & it's better than the original as it has more ram, a heatsink & an internal fan.. all for half the price...

not all Chinese fakes are a lower quality, and for almost half the price i wouldn't mind trying the fake unlocked pcb..

anyone got more store links to the fake pcb?

yeah, i mean, why support team executer and supreme factory (and their "modchip store" china distribution) they are all gangsters, that is well known, i rather support maximus any day.

yeah i said IT ...

these fake liteon pcbs are fine from the 4 i have tried.... last 3 i bough from mrmodchips in the uk and paid full tx price.
if you order some from same place use your credit card as he a pain to deal with if your order gets messed up other than that all good.

someone wondered why tx are highlighting these clones maybe they think the clones are in the supply chain they are asking us to report getting these from tx resellers
recently got coolrunner from ck3 uk mine is legit and yes the board is quite shoddy but it works flawlessly!
the clones in the pic do have better looking solder work (in places) and the power connector is a better quality item on the clone as are some components so who knows
another guy mentioned the sticker it has been reported they have the sticker
in the end i suppose it comes down to this if you pay for tx you should get tx anything else is fraud

i know some will say that all these boards are clones which is true i na way but these have been made purely to rip off tx
because if this factory had made these boards in black with no logos on them but good quality people would buy them anyway since who makes cmod boards is not nearly qas important as build quality
ive done 3 rgh so far 1 tx coolrunner (easy) 1 gen xlinx (harder) and 1 chinese xlinx clone(nightmare)
and really thats the point if you are really worried about some of the cheap knock offs that will appear its simple buy a genuine xlinx cmod board from xlinx its really not that much harder if you know what your doing anyway!

That sucks. I mean it really doesn't matter, they are generic components... I just bought another 2 coolrunners. I'm gonna check them when i get home in a sec. I guess the way to tell is the IC dot. Hell if the Unlock boards are cheaper, F it . I'll jump on the band wagon.


Edit: Damn, the soldering does look way better on the clone! No joke, I thought the one on the right was the genuine one because how good the soldering was. TX should use that company instead, not trying to be mean. Just sayin

And team X is mad becuase?......DRUM ROLL...... PROFITS thats why. Let this be a lesson to you team X. If ya make crappy stuff we'll end up getting clones that are better made than your own. I think its time for team X and the boys to man up and start either..... charging less for their products or.... higher quality products. BTW im surprise none of the team X fanboys are on this thread backing them up.

yes man the silence speaks volumes

I unfortunately got a bad original TX PCB and was extremely disappointed. I would take the risk with a clone just to test it out. I just wonder what a clone goes for compared to the original TX ones.

its funny i was going to say the clone looks like a better build and components look the same so i wouldn't care what one i got hahah funny shit.

exactly, i mean i appreciate what tx provides us but they have overpriced the unlocked pcb $80 (£50) for a board which costs the same price of a full slim dvd drive. the reason chinese versions appear because they know they the real value of these boards which means they can sell em for a lot less.

it's like the beats by dre studio headphones, the fake ones have the same sound quality at 75% cheaper.

They have the "fake" coolrunner on dealextreme, says designer coolrunner or something like that. Didnt see the PCB there.

It costs $15.80 for the "fake" there, so you are saving like $4 + ship costs.

I bought 10 coolrunners online for $170 from a xecuter retailer and got free shipping, so I didn't pay to much more for the real thing.

I would be interested to see the price the "fake" pcb goes for. I dont use them anyway.

Here is the fake coolrunner.

I checked my batch last night and there "genuine". Bought them from VGCrepairs, for $24 including shipping.

clone wars

TX is a greedy company in my opinion, i used to buy all there products but after buying the lizard kit i can honestly say im sticking with lizard from now on

TX has to be very greedy to charge as much as they do for the 360 usb thingy for flashing drives and its software based

The lizard is hardware based and is the easiest thing in the world, best part is you dont need jungle flasher which makes it so much more easier and it feels well built

TX is just a name now, nothing more they used to be great but got too greedy and now release sub par products and slap on $20 for the TX name

i have bought the x360glitch chip and programmer and they are amazing and CHEAP

The good thing is that now poeple are starting to open their eyes and realize that team x is not in it to make the xbox360 modding community better, their in it to milk it for all its worth and at the same time conspire to withhold information/methods and even sabotage. If they are not it to make this community better then why should we as a community support these guys? Im not a fanboy of anybody but I do and will support groups/teams/people that are trying to make this a better community. With that being said, let it be known Team X is F'ing it up for themselves.

I think we should start a boycott against TX. Actually NO, we must start a boycott against them, who is with me?

I can provide hosting for a website dedicated to inform people of the alternatives to TX.

Anybody who speaks out on their forum is banned i have noticed. So they limit speech on that site.

i was banned from TX for wanting to do the kamaikaze hack on my pcb even tho i was using a tx ck3 pro to do it... have you noticed that they do not promote the kamikaze hack? it's because it's a free fix & they have nothing to gain from that... they are very greedy.

i bet the fake pcb is just as good and technically they are both clones of the orginal m$ pcb so they are both fakes just different distributer... i'd go for the cheaper one, tx are getting greedy.

genuine from DX:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/genuine-xecut...xbox-360-112781

"designer" copy:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/designer-s-xe...xbox-360-112791

the only difference i can see is the color of the wires and difference in wieght (1 gram, lol)

i'm probably going to grab myself 5 of the copies. you write in BULKRATE as a discount code and they sell the chips for 14$ each. compared to 15 POUNDS + shipping i payed from CK3.co.uk i count this as a goddamn steal.

and looking at the photos it even seems the copies have better build quality, atleast to the naked eye. it's kinda disappointing tho, i always prefer originals in all the situations, but it seems copies are winning right now

just came by this thread.

A week ago I received 10 chips from the official german supplier "gamefreax".

According to the box they are packaged in and the PCB mine are "Rev. B".

A little note is printed on the edge of the PCB, right next to the connectors for the programmer.
Also the layout is a little different and some parts have a different color - e.g. the "PRG/NOR"-switch is black, not white.

Is there even a "Rev.B" of CoolRunner chips?!

Or is it a different chinese remake?

They are working flawlessly, but if they are remakes at least I want to have a discount

Hi there,

Just saw this topic. Well, t be honest, I tried the cloned Rv b coolrunners, it worked flawless. Even boot time are the same as the original ones.

If you might know, a clone Rev Coolrunner, was sold at USD10-12/ piec with complete wiring and hologram stickers. Well compare to the original ones. My God is way too expensive.