Hi BenJeremy,

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Ugh.... I don't like this one.... it causes problems for us "dashboard" authors - the LBA48 table created for the X2 BIOSes locks up an Xbox solid if defined for "Big F:" and the app (such as MXM) attempts to access G:'s partition. This has to be a bug int he way the table is generated - it doesn't happen in the Evo-X BIOSes.

What I know about the LBA48 code is infinitesimal, but that sounds like an X2 bug since it works with Evox, unless maybe it has something to do with the wat the code is hooked in.

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Perhaps the bug could be fixed, NghtShd? What is the difference in the way the two tables are generated? Could Partition7 ALWAYS be created, even if it's 0 length, if that's what's happening in Evo-X BIOSes?

I'm sure it could be fixed. What I've really been wanting lately is a serial port so I can get DbgPrint output. That would help with a lot of things.

I know Paul has been really busy lately, but maybe he could look into the issue if he gets some free time.

Does anyone know why Evox (the dashboard app) doesn't appear to have this problem (or does it)?

I don't know if anyone has said it, but here's what I'd like to see..

Support for disc insert notification via ATAPI, like any computer does it, and not (only) through the yellow dongley doo that the xbox has added.

For folks like me that switch between a PC DVDRom and the XDVDRom it'd be a godsend. Evox (or whatever) could be notified and autorun, or at least let me browse a disc I just put in.

Now all I can do is the goofy trick where you put an original in the xbox dvd tray and close it just to kick the xbox into reading the TOC..

Logically, the next step would be having hitting the big eject button on the xbox send a proper ATAPI eject tray command..

How about a bios that lets us play custom soundtracks during games?

Now that would be awsome.

Is that even possiable?

Apparently the xbox has no multitasking capabilities, so I'd say without programing an mp3 player into each individual game, it's not possible.

Then again I'm far from being an expert...

[EDIT] oops, a BIOS that plays soudtracks, hmmm, that might work. It might make a huge bios though.... Not that anyone cares anymore now that you can use Pheonix Boot loader.

Now that I think about it, that should be done, it would kick ass. It should only support like mp3/ogg though, none of this windows media stuff the ms dash uses.

RelaX client too maybe?

Man I wish I knew enough about programming to implement this myself

QUOTE (Cutriss @ Oct 21 2003, 11:15 PM)

You don't want 480p support in the BIOS. What you really want is 480p support in the dash. And, of course, that won't be happening anytime soon for xboxdash.xbe. At least, as far as I understand it.

480p for xboxdash.xbe is possible....but you will have to modify it using the Progressive scan Patcher

get it from here

and 480p would be great to have in the bios as my tv wouldnt have to switch modes every time i boot it

idealy you would have this as an xbtool option (you reading this nghtshd )

QUOTE (theplowking @ Oct 26 2003, 03:17 PM)

QUOTE (Cutriss @ Oct 21 2003, 11:15 PM) You don't want 480p support in the BIOS. What you really want is 480p support in the dash. And, of course, that won't be happening anytime soon for xboxdash.xbe. At least, as far as I understand it. 480p for xboxdash.xbe is possible....but you will have to modify it using the Progressive scan Patcher get it from here and 480p would be great to have in the bios as my tv wouldnt have to switch modes every time i boot it idealy you would have this as an xbtool option (you reading this nghtshd )

What I meant is - You can modify xboxdash.xbe to support 480p, but you can kiss your Live EEPROM goodbye if you do so.

QUOTE (Cutriss @ Oct 27 2003, 08:27 PM)

QUOTE (theplowking @ Oct 26 2003, 03:17 PM) QUOTE (Cutriss @ Oct 21 2003, 11:15 PM) You don't want 480p support in the BIOS. What you really want is 480p support in the dash. And, of course, that won't be happening anytime soon for xboxdash.xbe. At least, as far as I understand it. 480p for xboxdash.xbe is possible....but you will have to modify it using the Progressive scan Patcher get it from here and 480p would be great to have in the bios as my tv wouldnt have to switch modes every time i boot it idealy you would have this as an xbtool option (you reading this nghtshd ) What I meant is - You can modify xboxdash.xbe to support 480p, but you can kiss your Live EEPROM goodbye if you do so.

That's not true - you just have 2 dash files making the naming the progressive one to something like pxboxdash.xbe and leave the original intact. Any settings changed in one are mirrored in the other just load the progressive one from Evox. This gives you a progressive xbox dash, cd, and dvd, player when you run it under your.

This appeals to two groups:

1) HDTV owners who like 480p (what's not to like) and don't want to watch all the squiggle from the transition between 480i and 480p when they change something in the dash.

2) People who use front projection systems that don't accept 480i through component cables (only 1080i, 720p, and 480p - don't knock it till you've tried Halo on a 90" screen). If these guys want to change a setting in their dash they have to turn off the xbox and attach a different video unit (RCA or Svideo) to their projectors and then switch back.

This is fairly relevant discussion on many high end audio/video boards where people have good equiptment and like to game using the Xbox. For the bios, group one doesn't like the shitty transition and group 2 can't see anything. Interestingly the ugly transition is still present when all animation and logos are disabled through XBTool, meaning that Xbox is still outputing a blank 480i signal.

I actually emailed the creator of XBTool the other day and he said he will take a look into it for future releases. There will be a lot of happy people the day we can check a box and redo our bioses in 480p.

BIOS that wouldn't allow originals to run (so that you can't boot your original Xbox Live games by accident). This is only for people with easy mod disable function though.

QUOTE (ChrisF @ Oct 28 2003, 02:40 AM)

QUOTE (Cutriss @ Oct 27 2003, 08:27 PM) QUOTE (theplowking @ Oct 26 2003, 03:17 PM) 480p for xboxdash.xbe is possible....but you will have to modify it using the Progressive scan Patcher get it from here and 480p would be great to have in the bios as my tv wouldnt have to switch modes every time i boot it idealy you would have this as an xbtool option (you reading this nghtshd ) What I meant is - You can modify xboxdash.xbe to support 480p, but you can kiss your Live EEPROM goodbye if you do so. That's not true - you just have 2 dash files making the naming the progressive one to something like pxboxdash.xbe and leave the original intact. Any settings changed in one are mirrored in the other just load the progressive one from Evox. This gives you a progressive xbox dash, cd, and dvd, player when you run it under your. This appeals to two groups: 1) HDTV owners who like 480p (what's not to like) and don't want to watch all the squiggle from the transition between 480i and 480p when they change something in the dash. 2) People who use front projection systems that don't accept 480i through component cables (only 1080i, 720p, and 480p - don't knock it till you've tried Halo on a 90" screen). If these guys want to change a setting in their dash they have to turn off the xbox and attach a different video unit (RCA or Svideo) to their projectors and then switch back. This is fairly relevant discussion on many high end audio/video boards where people have good equiptment and like to game using the Xbox. For the bios, group one doesn't like the shitty transition and group 2 can't see anything. Interestingly the ugly transition is still present when all animation and logos are disabled through XBTool, meaning that Xbox is still outputing a blank 480i signal. I actually emailed the creator of XBTool the other day and he said he will take a look into it for future releases. There will be a lot of happy people the day we can check a box and redo our bioses in 480p.

Point, but what I meant was that you'd not be able to modify xboxdash.xbe itself. In other words, if you were playing in retail-intact mode in order to use Live, then you wouldn't be able to modify the dash - just copy it and hack the new one.

So, my final and original point still stands - there is no way to completely enable 480p or any other progressive mode. One way or the other, you still have a crappy non-progressive MS dash to deal with, unless you want to abandon Live.

Someone elsewhere mentioned that he had actually contacted the company that developed the dash application, and said that the reason they didn't include 480p support in the dash was because they didn't believe at the time that the hardware supported 480p, and that, now that they had been corrected, they would contact MS to see about possibly including it in a future official release.

Of course, I have no way to verify that such a conversation ever took place, so it's rumor at best, but still, it's a logical possibility, and one we all hope for, I'm sure.

QUOTE (smo @ Oct 29 2003, 11:35 AM)

BIOS that wouldn't allow originals to run (so that you can't boot your original Xbox Live games by accident). This is only for people with easy mod disable function though.

You already have that feature. Chage the DVD executable to something other than default.xbe.

how about somthing like IGR, but instead of reseting, it would shut the xbox off.

QUOTE (NghtShd @ Oct 29 2003, 10:13 PM)

You already have that feature. Chage the DVD executable to something other than default.xbe.

Yeah and re-burn all my DVD-R backups? That'd be way too much work..

save state/load state for retail games and backups

I'm currently working on this myself. But I think I might have to go the way that a trainer loads. maybe the way evox has the trainers folder. actually load before the game or something.

QUOTE (smo @ Oct 30 2003, 04:31 AM)

QUOTE (NghtShd @ Oct 29 2003, 10:13 PM) You already have that feature. Chage the DVD executable to something other than default.xbe. Yeah and re-burn all my DVD-R backups? That'd be way too much work..

Well, God forbid you should have to do any work. I'll just research, design, and write up a BIOS patch which only disables booting of originals but will detect a backup and allow booting, implement it for all supported BIOS's and then implement the patching interface in XBtool. It's not like that would be work compared to renaming the executable on your backups.

QUOTE (NghtShd @ Oct 30 2003, 06:01 PM)

QUOTE (smo @ Oct 30 2003, 04:31 AM) QUOTE (NghtShd @ Oct 29 2003, 10:13 PM) You already have that feature. Chage the DVD executable to something other than default.xbe. Yeah and re-burn all my DVD-R backups? That'd be way too much work.. Well, God forbid you should have to do any work. I'll just research, design, and write up a BIOS patch which only disables booting of originals but will detect a backup and allow booting, implement it for all supported BIOS's and then implement the patching interface in XBtool. It's not like that would be work compared to renaming the executable on your backups.

This one goes out to teamX but if you know how to do this NghtShd by all means plz do

we know they can imbed stuff into the bios....so what about creating a rule (something like the windows hosts file) where you could specify xboxlive domain 127.0.0.1

so you could either embed that these domains are bad into the bios
or have the bios read it from a "hosts" file from the disk

hacked bios = no live
no one can complaign


I think a combo of the two would be great....
but thats just mho

QUOTE (NghtShd @ Oct 30 2003, 06:01 PM)

I'll just research, design, and write up a BIOS patch which only disables booting of originals but will detect a backup and allow booting, implement it for all supported BIOS's and then implement the patching interface in XBtool.

Is that a promise? It was just an idea, not a demand. I think the feature would be useful. Maybe it'd cut down the "I got banned from Live" posts at least? Is there a branch point in the code that does the magic in case the box is booting a backup copy? I have a week's vacation coming up, maybe I should give IDA pro a go

QUOTE (smo @ Oct 31 2003, 02:16 PM)

QUOTE (NghtShd @ Oct 30 2003, 06:01 PM) I'll just research, design, and write up a BIOS patch which only disables booting of originals but will detect a backup and allow booting, implement it  for all supported BIOS's and then implement the patching interface in XBtool. Is that a promise?

No, it was sarcasm.

Really now...if you're that worried about having your EEPROM banned, why don't you just unplug the fucking network cable whenever you don't intend to use Live? It's *NOT* that hard.

Accidents are accidents, but you're wanting him to go around the world when you can just as easily go next door for him.

Here's something to chew on - Currently the mod scene is trying to make backups indistinguishable from retail discs. You're asking for them to introduce some way of detecting a backup, which could then be used by MS in the future to disallow playing those same backups.

QUOTE (NghtShd @ Oct 29 2003, 10:13 PM)

QUOTE (smo @ Oct 29 2003, 11:35 AM) BIOS that wouldn't allow originals to run (so that you can't boot your original Xbox Live games by accident). This is only for people with easy mod disable function though. You already have that feature. Chage the DVD executable to something other than default.xbe.

Disallowing originals to play is not a bad option, but there is a problem with doing that. What about people who want to play original imported games? Most of you in the US are lucky enough to get all the newest releases first, but people in other countries often have to wait for the newest releases, or else import them. If you disable the ability to play original games, then the original imports won't run with a modchip enabled. And if you disable the modchip, then the game won't play because it doesn't match the region code of the machine. Of course, you could change the region code in your EEPROM everytime you want to play one of the imported games, but I think that is way too tedious for most people.

[EDIT]: Some bad typos and I also wanted to add that you could, of course, run default.xbe through BoxPlorer or whatever, but that is also not a very user-friendly option, especially for the not-so-tech-savy people.

QUOTE (smo @ Oct 31 2003, 08:16 AM)

QUOTE (NghtShd @ Oct 30 2003, 06:01 PM) I'll just research, design, and write up a BIOS patch which only disables booting of originals but will detect a backup and allow booting, implement it  for all supported BIOS's and then implement the patching interface in XBtool. Is that a promise? It was just an idea, not a demand. I think the feature would be useful. Maybe it'd cut down the "I got banned from Live" posts at least? Is there a branch point in the code that does the magic in case the box is booting a backup copy? I have a week's vacation coming up, maybe I should give IDA pro a go

If it's originals you're worried about, as I said, change the default executable for DVDs. I don't think it's worth the effort, myself, since it's easy enough to do without adding another patch, but I'd be happy to add it if you want to work up the patches.

Maybe the best way to handle it would be through the dash. Change the default.xbe name and don't worry about changing it in your backups. That way the dash would always load. The dashboard could then be setup (optionally) to load the DVD immediately, if present. The dash could check whenever a disk is launched to see if the DVD was an original and either give a warning with the option to abort or could be setup to always dissallow originals.

This would add some time to the boot process, but TANSTAAFL.

No one has any comments on the bios mp3/ogg player? I really think it would be awesome

The idea seems good, so is there a way that you can flash your bios (without using an external programer )directly from the DVD drive if the HDD is messed up.
In my case I have the red/green light flashing and I am getting Error (13 & 16), I am using xecuter2 4794 (from cyclone chip).
The bios used to work in the past , but suddenly stopped.

Thanks,
George

how about a bios that if no button is press on controller it boots the normal xbox dash, and if you hold a button down it boots evox dash.

something along the line of the bios that loaded the FTP program when a button was held down.

I'd really like a BIOS that removes the dvd drive and relpaces it with the ability to add a second hard drive. I have no use for my dvd and I have a 120gb drive just sitting here I'd love to be able to thruogh it in as a slave and have my dashboard recognize it as another partition.

every thing the xdk bios has like ftp, screenshots, network, we need a xdk like app made by x-ecutor, xbox-linux, and evox together so we can acsess r xboxes while playing debug and script a lil like a entire prgm based on the evox scripting lingo

QUOTE (sargun @ Nov 18 2003, 02:05 AM)

every thing the xdk bios has like ftp, screenshots, network, we need a xdk like app made by x-ecutor, xbox-linux, and evox together so we can acsess r xboxes while playing debug and script a lil like a entire prgm based on the evox scripting lingo

team xecuter & team assembly already made a debug bios, TATX.

I would like to have fan speed auto control in the (non-linux) BIOS. Like set a max temp, and above that the BIOS increases the fan speed to keep the 'box below the max.

Would only have to sample temp once per minute or so. Cannot imagine it would take up many cycles.

Would this be at all possible?

QUOTE (Blackstar1 @ Nov 18 2003, 04:35 PM)

I would like to have fan speed auto control in the (non-linux) BIOS. Like set a max temp, and above that the BIOS increases the fan speed to keep the 'box below the max. Would only have to sample temp once per minute or so. Cannot imagine it would take up many cycles. Would this be at all possible?

Since the bios doesnt read this, I doubt it would be possible.

QUOTE (heinrich @ Nov 19 2003, 06:22 AM)

QUOTE (Blackstar1 @ Nov 18 2003, 04:35 PM) I would like to have fan speed auto control in the (non-linux) BIOS. Like set a max temp, and above that the BIOS increases the fan speed to keep the 'box below the max. Would only have to sample temp once per minute or so. Cannot imagine it would take up many cycles. Would this be at all possible? Since the bios doesnt read this, I doubt it would be possible.

Ok, guess I have to handle auto-temp some other way. Then, how about HD spin down? Would make a difference now after I've modded my box to max silence (80mm fan).

Ok, I'll plead my case again

IGRTD - In Game Return To Dash: Instead of IGR (which will only restart a game from DVD), the function should always return you to your dashboard, regardless of media the game is running from.

Or Better Yet!

IGXBE - In Game XBE: A file on c: called "igxbe.xbe". Whenever you press the "IGR" buttons on the controller it launches this XBE file. It can be any XBE, so I could put the "start dashboard" XBE, the Reboot XBE, whatever I want it to do! This gives the user total control

flicker, now THAT is an awesome idea,, that sounds really cool
nutton configs for any xbe you want so you can use button presses to launch apps or games.

Here's another idea.

In addition to the clockfix, how about embedding a tiny XBE which can be used to set the clock? This way, filesystem timestamps are consistent, and I don't have to worry about booting to the MS Dash just to set the clock.

QUOTE (heinrich @ Nov 18 2003, 08:33 AM)

QUOTE (sargun @ Nov 18 2003, 02:05 AM) every thing the xdk bios has like ftp, screenshots, network, we need a xdk like app made by x-ecutor, xbox-linux, and evox together so we can acsess r xboxes while playing debug and script a lil like a entire prgm based on the evox scripting lingo team xecuter & team assembly already made a debug bios, TATX.

Well I would like to see the tools of the xdk in the regualr bios ... or is that the same as an evox bios

QUOTE (HeLiuM @ Sep 29 2003, 12:26 PM)

QUOTE (desertboy @ Sep 21 2003, 10:37 PM) Surprised no one has said it but a legal homebrew bios (at least legal in europe) that boot original software and homebrew. More likely to be implemented into xbtool. Ability to play a video off the HD for boot up sequence instead of imbedded in bios. Ability to turn the network port on and off, so live users can let siblings use their chipped xbox's without worrying about their younger brother getting them banned. homebrew is still in the same language as regular xbox files, so if you had support for homebrew you'd have support for original files. that would mean reconstructing the whole kernel to the win2k guy, this kernel is extremely stripped down! as far as win2k is concerned it might as well be a television v-chip bios to the fake xbox live guy, any attempt at this would get attacked by MS. look in the xbox live forum, its been suggested a million times before

When I said a legal homebrew bios I meant a from the scratch up replacement or patching of an original bios (You could extract yourself) with the various patches.) it would mean that a lot of installers could sell their boxes preflashed (Maybe not in the USA) but us EU guys should be ok.

Not sure if this has been suggested, but it'd be nice if the BIOS supported remote mounted folders, either via SMB (my choice), or windows share. The remote folder would be listed as another drive, allowing for launching apps and games from remote servers, as well as being able to do file transfers from the XBox.

FTP server is nice, but I'd rather have remote folder access from the XBox. With multiple XBoxes, it's be nice to play my games from my large server, rather than have to upgrade each XBox's hard drive, and install the games onto their hard drives. Sure, I could run the games off DVD-R, but it'd be much nicer to keep all my games on the same server as my XBMP/C server shared over Samba.

QUOTE (Tochi @ Nov 25 2003, 08:27 PM)

Not sure if this has been suggested, but it'd be nice if the BIOS supported remote mounted folders, either via SMB (my choice), or windows share. The remote folder would be listed as another drive, allowing for launching apps and games from remote servers, as well as being able to do file transfers from the XBox. FTP server is nice, but I'd rather have remote folder access from the XBox. With multiple XBoxes, it's be nice to play my games from my large server, rather than have to upgrade each XBox's hard drive, and install the games onto their hard drives. Sure, I could run the games off DVD-R, but it'd be much nicer to keep all my games on the same server as my XBMP/C server shared over Samba.

Suggested and denied multiple times. A network connection will never provide enough bandwidth for you to stream your games over it.

All posts pertaining to disabling Xbox Live connectivity (and therein, Live Aware connectivity in games) have been moved here:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act...T&f=38&t=130713

A lot of suggestions have been to include debug features into a retail bios. That's all fine and good but why don't we just make the switch to 512k and modify the debug bios to work on retail? As a matter of fact, why don't they make it so multibioses work on debug, 1.0, 1.1+? That makes a lot of sense to me. Then we can have all the feature we're accustomed to plus we can use screwed eeproms. We can use the xdk to access "xbox neighborhood" and take screenshots or whatever. This should save a lot of trouble by converting a debug to retail rather than implementing debug features into a retail.

what about 2 hdds instead of dvd drive? or is that controlled by somthing else?

How about allowing more then 42 characters for a file?? i think thats the filesystem.. but maybe a bios hack can fix it?? not sure i know nothing eheh.. just an idea.

As has been suggested elsewhere - a debug bios with support for v1.4 & v1.5 xboxes would help some of us a lot. You could see it as an investment into more development manpower...

Automatically change fan speed depending on cpu-temperature.
I have evoxM7 bios with fanspeed set to 20 which is very quiet with a 80mm fan (on 3-pin) but it would be nice if it would automatically speed up as the temperature increases (which it does on intensive gaming).

QUOTE (Cutriss @ Nov 26 2003, 04:50 AM)

A network connection will never provide enough bandwidth for you to stream your games over it.

That's bull. I can run apps installed on one Windows box from another Windows box with the same 100 Mbit connection as the XBox, so it's more than enough bandwidth to stream my games over it. Limited bandwidth only increases the amount of time spent waiting, but it doesn't prevent you from doing it.

If no one is going to do it or there are real technical hurdles, so be it. But don't spread nonsense as the reason.

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But don't spread nonsense as the reason.

ok dude you have no clue what your talking about, so just let it go, if networking streaming of games was possible dont you think it would have been done already ?


the amount of data required to load games and STREAM games, as many racing, and action/adventure games do,, as in,, HUGE HUGE maps and worlds that are CONSTANTLY loading and streaming new area's need constant dataflow,,, a network is NOT enough to allow the game to flow,, it would cause ungodly lag, and studdering during a game and would more than likely cause games to lock and or stall until sufficient data is transfered.

playing games over the network isnt going to happen man so dont think about it.

you can run apps over a network for pc's simply because it loads a MINISCULE amount of data compared to an xbox game.
and you can NOT run games over a network with a PC.,. maybe a small few, but id love to see you try and run a newer game over your pc network.
1st and foremost it would give you errors simply because the game is not installed on your 2nd system.
and 2nd,... well.. its just not gunna happen.

if you have said game installed already on your second system and you network to pc 1 then run the exe file off pc1,, do you honestly think its actually streaming the game to pc2... no its running the files off pf pc2. not pc1.

and think of the target speed of a 100mbit pc internal network.. the target normal speed is 5megs/sec. now Avalaunch is giving me 10megs/sec thru FTP to my xbox... how ?? i have no damn clue, it is moving data faster than my 2 pc's that are sitting 2 feet apart.
so the possibility of more speed to your xbox IS there, but its not enough to make a game playable over a network.
now think of the data transfer rate of a dvdrom or a hard drive,, a normal hard drive is going to give you 40-75 megs/sec of data flow.. do you think you will ever see an interenal network that moves that fast ?? no... not until you spend a billion dollars on a fiber optic network
i havent looked at speeds of a gigaLAN but that may be something that is possible to move data that fast thru a network.. but guess what,, your xbox is only 100mbit MAX.

not to mention the xbox just cant recognise a network drive as a drive that is usuable for games.

you can get a 120 gig hard drive for about 100 USD go spend the cash and just load more games on your hard drive.


and its nonsense,... why ?? because YOU and ONLY YOU believe its nonsense ?? because seems that your the only one calling it nonsense.

QUOTE (LESTAT @ Dec 12 2003, 11:03 PM)

QUOTE But don't spread nonsense as the reason. ok dude you have no clue what your talking about, so just let it go, if networking streaming of games was possible dont you think it would have been done already ? the amount of data required to load games and STREAM games, as many racing, and action/adventure games do,, as in,, HUGE HUGE maps and worlds that are CONSTANTLY loading and streaming new area's need constant dataflow,,, a network is NOT enough to allow the game to flow,, it would cause ungodly lag, and studdering during a game and would more than likely cause games to lock and or stall until sufficient data is transfered. playing games over the network isnt going to happen man so dont think about it. you can run apps over a network for pc's simply because it loads a MINISCULE amount of data compared to an xbox game. and you can NOT run games over a network with a PC.,. maybe a small few, but id love to see you try and run a newer game over your pc network. 1st and foremost it would give you errors simply because the game is not installed on your 2nd system. and 2nd,... well.. its just not gunna happen. if you have said game installed already on your second system and you network to pc 1 then run the exe file off pc1,, do you honestly think its actually streaming the game to pc2... no its running the files off pf pc2. not pc1. and think of the target speed of a 100mbit pc internal network.. the target normal speed is 5megs/sec. now Avalaunch is giving me 10megs/sec thru FTP to my xbox... how ?? i have no damn clue, it is moving data faster than my 2 pc's that are sitting 2 feet apart. so the possibility of more speed to your xbox IS there, but its not enough to make a game playable over a network. now think of the data transfer rate of a dvdrom or a hard drive,, a normal hard drive is going to give you 40-75 megs/sec of data flow.. do you think you will ever see an interenal network that moves that fast ?? no... not until you spend a billion dollars on a fiber optic network i havent looked at speeds of a gigaLAN but that may be something that is possible to move data that fast thru a network.. but guess what,, your xbox is only 100mbit MAX. not to mention the xbox just cant recognise a network drive as a drive that is usuable for games. you can get a 120 gig hard drive for about 100 USD go spend the cash and just load more games on your hard drive. and its nonsense,... why ?? because YOU and ONLY YOU believe its nonsense ?? because seems that your the only one calling it nonsense.

Let me correct a couple things... but first you're right LESTAT. That whole... if you have said game installed on computer2 but try to stream it from computer 1 it's really still running from computer 2 is bull. The only thing it would get from computer2 are the registry keys. There were other errors about networking too but I'll let them go.

This can not work for several reasons. The most important reason has nothing to do with speed and it has everything to do with xbox games can't multi task. Streaming games cannot be achieved through a because the path the bios looked to stream would be static.(this means partition and directory so everyone using it would have to have a HUGE c partition ) So would the ip it looks for. Even IF you fought that battle and got it to work THEN your load times would kill you. It would suck SO bad that you wouldn't want to do it. The network does not provide enough bandwidth. The whole point of "streaming" is to be playing a file with a starting and a stopping point and a certain rate of play that is less than or equal to the download rate. This enables the system to cache up data and allow viewing of the obtained data while staying ahead of the data being played. Movies and music and other things are able to do this because of their minimal size but even more they have a steady rate of play.
Games do not have these luxuries. For the most part they are huge. Secondly the game may need to load a different part of a map or level each time or whatever so it cannot predict and be loading that.

Face it dude streaming xbox or xbox equivalent games is not possible at this point in time. ESPECIALLY on xbox. Give it up and have your grandma get you a 120 gig hd for you for your 13th birthday.

A feature i would like to see in the first x3 bios.

Holding A on boot will launch the custom built in xbe (ftp w/format and config support is ideal)
Holding X on boot launchesFile 1
Holding Y on boot launchesFile 2
Holding B on boot launchesFile 3

On nokeys just launches the dashboard according to the current rules.

This is similar to the launcher ngtshd did but this wouldnt be xbe style. Instead the 3 launches will be strings in the bios itself, which takes away the need for a xbe (good to keep sizes down and keep the ftp) and which can be altred at will using xbTool or hex'ing.

ROM bios' should keep hardware and recovery support the priority while BFM's can take care of the rest.


Some of the ideas flying round this thread are pretty extreme A dvd player in the bios baffled me Maybe save that one for a 2meg BFM

Id really like to see where you put a simple text file on C and it says whatever you want instead of "MS" or "ExecutorX2" under the X logo, and to be able to change the animation....that'd rock

I think the text under the logo is actually an image rather than just text, if im right then the best you could hope for is a program that can extract and inject your own image into the bios. Or they could remove the image (like you can with XBtool) and use something similar to the X3 OSD (On-screen display) to put your own there.

I know this idea may be a pretty far stretch. But wouldn't that be cool if someone made a "clone" of an xbox live master server that allowed MODDED xboxes to play online? Have the bios file point to an alternate internet domain or server so when you select the "xbox live" tab or button in any live enabled game you would connect to a "cracked" live server instead of the MS one. That way you don't have to be forced to buy an xbox live kit, worry about being banned, or pay 50 dollars a year or whatever.
Also, make it so you can specify any IP address you want so you could pick from a list of dedicated servers in your area (or have some sort of homebrew pc program to run your own?)...

Ok ok, maybe I am just "dreaming"... but I think that would be the ultimate bios feature.

QUOTE (Ed_209 @ Jan 5 2004, 05:01 AM)

Ok ok, maybe I am just "dreaming"... but I think that would be the ultimate bios feature.

Yep, you're dreaming.

This won't work for the same reasons that you can't firewall Xbox Live in the BIOS. There are other ways to do this, but they don't involve the BIOS.

how about implemented password to turn on the xbox where you have a button combo? and the ability to make a custom start animation