Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Can I Play Xbox Backups On Cd-r
Scenyx Entertainment Community > Xbox1 Forums > Newbie Forums > FAQ
Pages: 1, 2
jackyl_816
No,almost none of the Xbox consoles will read a backup on a cd-r,all backups must be burned to a cdr-w or dvd-r or dvd-rw,also some dvd+r media works as well. Games can be burned to a cd-r,but must be recopied to one of the above media types in order to play.
XanTium
There is a possible solution thought.

If you install a PC DVD/CD-ROM drive to your xbox you can read almost all media.

Here's the tutorial : http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/dvddrive.php
jackyl_816
yes,that is true,but if you do that,doesnt that take away your option,to play a original xbox game? I was under the impression,that a PC dvd/cd rom would not play nor read a real Xbox game.
Poopninja
Correct, according to the guide you will need to disconnect the ide cable from the pc dvd-drive and reconnect it to the Xbox dvd-drive to play original games.
HSDEMONZ
I know I'm whining about an old post... but since it is in the FAQ section, many will hold it as gospel...

QUOTE
almost none of the Xbox consoles will read a backup on a cd-r


Is simply not true. Many will NOT read CDR.. but many WILL. There are no numbers to support that claim. Modded XBOX's purchased at XBOX launch, and ones purchase last week part of the new SEGA Pack have both had some success at reading CDR.

Don't discourage people from trying. The Low Cost may outweigh the slight, and sometimes slower load time of the CDR burn.

System_Overload
i have 2 modded xboxes both with stock phillips drives and they both love durabrand cd-r from wal-mart. if you have a xbox with a phillips drive your in luck, but if its a thompson drive dont even bother.
xbox_freak!!
Samsung Dvd-Rom's will read cd-r well.They are what are in "some" of the Sega packs
xxALxx


Here is a CDR tut :->

Link

And I have tried it and it does work.
xbox01
Some brands of cd-r will work in the thompson drive. Mine reads cd-r media that are a specific tone of silver-blue on the bottom of the disc.
alpine2001
Get yourselves an x-box with a Samsung drive !!!
They have only started using these drives since October 2002.
It has read every type of CDR I have placed in it biggrin.gif

NOTE: Not all x-box's manufacted in October use the Samsung drive sad.gif
I have found most manufactured on the 5th and 15th to be Samsung though.
Still, it's pot luck.

How can you tell it's a Samsung ???
You can tell it is a Samsung drive when you open the tray.
It has two extra holes in the tray about the size of a thumb width.
__chrille
I have a xbox with a thompson drive and have gotten a few cd-rs to work on it. It was "Vivastar" cds..
coolnick07
I had good luck with maxell
Tiros
You can have it all:

http://www.xboxhacker.net/forums/index.php...=ST&f=7&t=10613
fathazza
is there a list of games that will fit on cr-rw media , eg less than 650-700megs.
SarinV83
I just bought an Xbox bundle mfg. on Dec 2 of last year. It does not have the samsung drive and i was little dissapointed. However since I only use Memorex CD-r's i placed a CD-r of audio and it played fine. Does that mean that everything can be readable as long as I use Memorex CD=r's on my drive?

Help me, I am nOOb!
CyborgGamer
I have a samsung dvd in my xbox and I can read just about ANY cd, even the cheapo cdr's.
upup
all i did was connect one of my extra cd-rom drives to my xbox to play my cd-r games and when want to play originals i reconnect the ide cable to the xbox's dvd drive
Fire
i say .. try 1 CDR.. if doesnt work.. bad luck.. ur XBOX doesnt play em.. if it does..
its like u won the tatslotto
DrDolittle
Jeez, what luck I have with my newly modded Xbox. I'm part of the lucky elite with the Samsung Drive that will play virtually any CDR's. Only problem is copying ISO images on to them. Everyone that I've recently downloaded, either is corrupt, or, poorly copied.Does anybody know of a reputable source where I can download 100% workable ISO's from?
Any help would be Magic.
Cheers

DrDolittle.
sableholic
does dvd+r games work on xbox? cause I found a really cheap dvd+rw burner and was thinking about buying it. However, if they dont work in xbox then I dont want it.
Helios
OK i have put in CD-R media on my xbox and it plays sweet but if i can run CD-R music cds can i run CD-R data? and if so what kind of data? only stuff that is compatible with the Xbox?
nitronutter
tried and tested cdr np here

seems to be a samsung drive had the samsung grooves on the case (i noticed that when my local modder stripped the box
also has the 2 thumbholes in the tray

tested old 12x infiniti and 12x verbatamin cdr-audio

burnt evolutionxv1_8_458_iso onto a new 48x infiniti cdr and the xbox booted that fine smile.gif
also ftp'd into the box to verify /d was readable and it was
Darkness2003
Yes you can biggrin.gif

Download latest nero burning software. choose udf/iso en there is a special xbox button "force DVD-Video compatibility mode (required for xbox TM)" then burn a game or divx file en play you DVD or CDR.

jackyl_816
QUOTE (jackyl_816 @ Oct 21 2002, 10:33 PM)
No,almost none of the Xbox consoles will read a backup on a cd-r,all backups must be burned to a cdr-w or dvd-r or dvd-rw,also some dvd+r media works as well. Games can be burned to a cd-r,but must be recopied to one of the above media types in order to play.

ok..at the time of my original post, we was on the 1st generation of xbox.... and almost none of them would read cd-r's.... now they are shipping with different brand dvd drives,and people are having great success with cd-r's.... this is wonderful..... so everyone should atleast play around with a couple different brands of cd-r and hope that it works.... chances are if you have a newly purchased xbox,you will be OK!!!!!


PEACE OUT!!!!!!
gundamhr
There is no list of games that will fit on CD-r(rw). There probably will never be any games that can fit themselves on a single CD. You can although, use multiple CD's to fit the cd onto. For example, if you want to transfer halo to about 3-4 cd's you can. Put the default.xbe in each cd. Then put the mulitplayer maps in maps on one cd. Then put some of the campaign maps in maps, on another cd. You should be left with a couple of maps and put those on a separate cd too. Don't bother with the bink file...all it is movies. Or you can get the bink movie editor thing and downsample the movies. This will work for many other games too, you just have to diagnose how you should do it.
gundamhr
Heh, one more thing I forgot. I forgot to mention that even if y ou have a thompson drive, you can upgrade the firmware, that might help, but do it at your own risk, because there are bad flashes and bad firmware upgrades.
west17m
QUOTE (jackyl_816 @ May 31 2003, 08:11 PM)
ok..at the time of my original post, we was on the 1st generation of xbox.... and almost none of them would read cd-r's.... now they are shipping with different brand dvd drives,and people are having great success with cd-r's.... this is wonderful..... so everyone should atleast play around with a couple different brands of cd-r and hope that it works.... chances are if you have a newly purchased xbox,you will be OK!!!!!

Just to throw a wrench in the works, I "settled" for a Phillips 1.0 system and found it to work fine any any CD-R media that wasn't blue.

I helped a friend mod his 1.1 Samsung and it wouldn't read hardly anything (including DVD-r's, and rw's).

(Oh, and yes, I only burn at 2x ... although the phillips still reads at a 6x burn)
psxguy
If you have a phillips drive and you wanna get it to read any CD-R, just tweak the pot a bit. It was easier for me to remove the top of my phillips drive and turn the pot 1/4 of the way (and it reads everything I throw at it) than tearing up a PC-DvD-Rom, and cutting up my case to make it fit, etc. And I pot tweaked several phillips drives and they are still going strong.
Xeero
QUOTE (psxguy @ Jun 24 2003, 01:23 PM)
If you have a phillips drive and you wanna get it to read any CD-R, just tweak the pot a bit.  It was easier for me to remove the top of my phillips drive and turn the pot 1/4 of the way (and it reads everything I throw at it) than tearing up a PC-DvD-Rom, and cutting up my case to make it fit, etc. And I pot tweaked several phillips drives and they are still going strong.

To those wondering if they should tweak their pot: if you are at all familiar with tweaking PS2 drives, you should know that the Xbox drives are constructed with much higher-quality components. As long as you take caution in tweaking the potentiometer, you're far less likely to damage the drive than you would be with a PS2 drive.
HumanClay
QUOTE
There probably will never be any games that can fit themselves on a single CD.


There are many a game that fit on a single cd, for instance Monopoly Party, The Sims, Smashing Drive.

QUOTE
OK i have put in CD-R media on my xbox and it plays sweet but if i can run CD-R music cds can i run CD-R data? and if so what kind of data? only stuff that is compatible with the Xbox?


Why would it play something that is not compatible with the Xbox?! lol
gamarsedge
i had a philips drive but didnt want to tweak it sounds risky so i just got a samsung drive dam thing reads everything you give it only thing that sucked was that it costed me hella money for it
da_shiznit
i think he was referring compatible as 'the orginal games and files' and not supposed to be compatible to "dixv, backups, etc"
kard63
DVD recorders are almost as cheap as a samsung drive now.
jason987
I'v got unmodded box and i wanna use complex loader...so i want to know what kind of drive i have

I think its the samsung drive as it 1.1 box and the drives got the 2 holes on the tray...so it a samsung then?
robert5earl
ya its a samsung no holes in the other two types. im a cheap bastard and my samsung drive will play the cheapist cdr i throw at it.
00XeRo
what I don't understand is how you actually get the game to fit on the CDR.

Most games are what, 3-4 gigabytes, right?

fgrhehghej
QUOTE (00XeRo @ Aug 22 2003, 07:48 AM)
what I don't understand is how you actually get the game to fit on the CDR.

Most games are what, 3-4 gigabytes, right?

Well, it's probably more in the vicinity of 1.5g. There are some that are bigger. There are also some that a way smaller, though. And, then there's techniques like downsampling or ripping, of course. #

And for the record: even (some) non-modified, stock Philips drives can play (some) CD-Rs. You just need to experiment a bit; also be sure to know exactly what media you're testing. Trying rebranded stuff that is based on the same dye probably won't help too much.

black_light
you rip out all the demos and foerign laungages.
nineteen19
QUOTE (00XeRo @ Aug 22 2003, 06:48 AM)
what I don't understand is how you actually get the game to fit on the CDR.

Most games are what, 3-4 gigabytes, right?

I'd assume that they would be only backing up the games that are smaller than 700mb. There are a number of Xbox games that are small enough to fit on a cd-r (and some games even leave room to spare on a cd-r!). Samsung drives are helllla tight!
Dtweaker
Yes most games are 3-4gb but some aren't and some can be split up to run on multiple cd-r's.
Dtweaker
I have a v1.1 xbox and i've tried meny types of cd-r and cd-rw and haven't had any problems. i've also tried some DVD+r with no success.
Gh3ttoRoM3o
QUOTE (00XeRo @ Aug 22 2003, 06:48 AM)
what I don't understand is how you actually get the game to fit on the CDR.

Most games are what, 3-4 gigabytes, right?

nope they really range.

Crazy Taxi High Roller for instancewill fit on a CDR.
Gh3ttoRoM3o
nope, to my amazement there are alot of games that will fit on a CDR. Seems as if they've jus wasted the space on the DVD's dry.gif .

Lotmr
Say WHAT? I always burn my romsemu's to no-name CD-R and they always work. Also Kill.Switch works off a CD-R. Just try burning at a slower speed. Like 4x works good.
a_man
So slower speed helps? Cause i cant get a cdr to work, thoug i only tried one brand. And i got no mods done to my xbox yet, but is it still possible to listen or cdr audio?
bottjena
ok... I know some xbox drivers won't play backed up games on cdr's but what if you have a divx movie .. .that you want to play in an xbox media player with a modded xbox... will you be able to play the divx/xvid movie from the cdr?
Dragonface
I got the samsung-drive have no problem playing cd-r (in xbmc)... make sure u got separate bookmarkf for iso9660 and UDF... never really use it though... streaming using relax works best for me... ohh yeah the crappy sammy wont read dvd+r mad.gif
Haunted
QUOTE (xbox01 @ Dec 23 2002, 05:00 AM)
Some brands of cd-r will work in the thompson drive. Mine reads cd-r media that are a specific tone of silver-blue on the bottom of the disc.

Have bought yesterday a Halo + Midtown Madness bundle for my son - according to DVD drive picture, I have a f*n Thomson...
Have tried several audio CD-R but none works...
Can anything be done about it ? Or maybe they will play in case I install the mod-chip ?
Please help me, I am totally frustrated - I thought I could use this xbox for something useful, such as playing my divx movies from my cdr collection... O am I lost now ?
geniusalz
You can still play your cd-r collection by streaming from your CD-ROM drive on your computer to XBMP/XBMC on the xbox.
Haunted
QUOTE (Haunted @ Jan 7 2004, 02:48 PM)
QUOTE
Have bought yesterday a Halo + Midtown Madness bundle for my son - according to DVD drive picture, I have a f*n Thomson...
Have tried several audio CD-R but none works...
Can anything be done about it ? Or maybe they will play in case I install the mod-chip ?
Please help me, I am totally frustrated - I thought I could use this xbox for something useful, such as playing my divx movies from my cdr collection... O am I lost now ?



Have slowly figured most of the things out. Tommy's back in the shop - after visiting some stores, have found same bundle (Halo + MM3) but November build with Sammy... So I'm super happy now ! It swallowed my cd-r with burned audio and immediately played it - Tommy didn't want to do it after xx tries - so guys thos who looking to buy an XBox, get one with Sammy drive, you won't regret it biggrin.gif
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2013 Invision Power Services, Inc.